Daily Turbo Pay Review: $999 pass-up commissions
There is no information on the Daily Turbo Pay website indicating who owns or runs the business.
The Daily Turbo Pay website domain was registered on the 22nd of January 2013 but the domain registration information is set to private.
Splattered all over the Daily Turbo Pay website however are a series of marketing videos featuring the Incredible Hulk David Dubbs (photo right).
Dubb’s describes himself as ‘a guy who’s gone out there and made a ton of money on the internet‘ and claims Daily Turbo Pay was ‘two years in the making‘.
In researching David Dubb’s MLM history I found involvement in several low-key opportunities, spanning back as far as 2007 (something called “EDC Gold”, which doesn’t exist anymore).
Listing Dubb’s involvement in various schemes is somewhat of an arduous task, so instead I’ll simply reproduce a quote from Warrior Forum’s “Loren Woirhaye” (2009):
He was very active with direct selling programs like EasyDailyCash and the 1-Step System – both defunct – he would jump into a new program every few months and customers who could afford to get into the new plan would follow.
There are re-curring patterns with all programs of this nature which lack a physical product. They generally fold after 6-24 months, leaving distributors out in the cold.
Read on for a full review of the Daily Turbo Pay MLM business opportunity.
The Daily Turbo Pay Product Line
The Daily Turbo Pay product line appears to be a series of digital downloads and e-books that Daily Turbo Pay make available to affiliates to resell.
100% of the commissions generated via the sale of these digital products are retained by the affiliates who initiate the sale.
The Daily Turbo Pay Compensation Plan
Daily Turbo Pay’s compensation plan revolves around the sale of pass-up commission qualification positions, membership fee commissions via a unilevel compensation plan and resellable product sales.
Pass-up Commissions
In a traditional 2-up style compensation plan an affiliate’s first 2 commissions are passed up to their upline.
In Daily Turbo Pay this is spread out over the first nine commissions an affiliate earns. This includes the first commission earnt, which is paid to the company (so technically it’s a 3-up).
- an affiliates first sale is paid 100% to the company
- their second, third and fourth sales commissions are kept
- the fifth sale is passed up to the affiliate’s upline
- the sixth, seventh and eighth sales are kept
- the ninth sale is again passed up to the affiliate’s upline
- the affiliate keeps all commissions from the tenth sale onwards
This formula is maintained over three levels of membership, $99, $499 and $999.
Note that in order to qualify for commissions an affiliate must buy into the respective membership level. Commissions generated by unqualified affiliates are passed up to the first qualified upline in their genealogy.
Recruitment Commissions
Recruitment commissions in Daily Turbo Pay are paid down eight levels of recruitment, with how much an affiliate is being paid per recruited member, either via direct recruitment or the recruiting efforts of their downlines, determined by what level a recruited affiliate sits on:
- Level 1 – $5 per affiliate
- Levels 2 and 3 – $2 per affiliate
- Level 4 – $1.95 per affiliate
- Levels 5 to 7 – $2 per affiliate
- Level 8 – $3 per affiliate
An affiliate must qualify for recruitment commissions by paying a $39 a month fee.
Joining Daily Turbo Pay
Affiliate membership to Daily Turbo Pay is $39 a month.
Note that an affiliate must self qualify for pass-up commissions, which if desired adds an additional $99-$999 cost to Daily Turbo Pay affiliate membership.
Conclusion
There’s an obvious disconnect in Daily Turbo Pay’s product offerings and the bulk of its compensation plan. Affiliates essentially buy into the compensation plan at either the $99, $499 or $999 level.
Naturally, Daily Turbo Pay recommend the maximum buy-in level:
The best choice is $999 where you can earn $99, $499, and $999 Instant pay commissions.
Motivation wise an affiliate buys in at the $999 level (or the other two levels) solely to qualify themselves for commissions. Commissions earnt by getting recruited affiliates to buy in at the same level.
Meanwhile the unilevel recruitment commissions are pretty much just a straight up pyramid scheme. Affiliates buy in for $39 a month and are paid a monthly commission based on how many new affiliates they and their downline have recruited.
Product commissions are available but are negligible and clearly not the focus point of the Daily Turbo Pay business when compared to the $999 commissions on offer.
After years of participation in “new programs” that “generally fold after 6-24 months” it seems as if Dubbs is testing the waters with his own scheme.
Given both major components of the Daily Turbo Pay compensation plan dependent on the constant recruitment of new affiliates willing to buy into all three levels of the compensation plan, 6-24 months of sustainability is probably a little too generous here.
If you pass up 3 sales out of 9 then the company takes a 33% cut. Furthermore, because you lose the first sale (pass-up) you need to bring in at least two to get paid. That makes this essentially a recruitment pyramid, with NO separation of ccnsumer and affiliate, esp. with the professed “self-qualifying” route.
I’m free for a real interview if you want to ask me. I’ve been the top earner in 7 different deals and the master distributor in deals. I have also been a consultant for internet marketing.
Here is my direct cell phone (Ozedit: contact details removed).
Wow 6-24 months huh…hmmm explain all the residual checks I’ve been getting for over 10 years. While edc gold folded due to the owners disagreeing it was one of the biggest things to hit the net. It lead the way on most programs today.
I don’t hide behind a PC or try to be anonymous. Anyone want to ask me anything pick up the phone and call me direct. A quote from 2009 LOL that cracks me up.
Also Not true on the pay plan K Chang. They pass up only one to the company then get 2-5 100% commission. The 5th and 9th go to their sponsor.
So once a rep gets going not only do they get all their 100% but then get pass ups that go to them. On top of the products they sell they also keep 100% of right from the start.
Also why did you not mention the fact that for $499 the affiliate gets the $999 level. And we do not push any level above another. Where are you getting these so called facts?
@David
Were any of them not recruitment driven schemes? A Google search definitely seems to indicate you tend to get involved in a “specific” type of opportunity.
…because it’s not mentioned anywhere in your compensation plan material?
That quote was pulled directly from the Daily Turbo Pay website. Don’t make me take screenshots.
And that means what, exactly ??
Did the “top deals” include Zeek rewards, ProfitClicking, AdSurf Daily and 12DailyPro ???
What’s the old maxim ???
Oh, yes:
Does this mean that you are in the habit of jumping companies every few months? Or does it mean that you are in 2 or more boats at the same time, shuffling your team mates to make maximum money for yourself?
Taking from Loren Woirhaye: The entire idea is to build a solid business with a solid company ONCE, a business built to last.
Maybe he’s related to DrDave, i.e. Ken Russo?
You should probably limit that to “a real interview about Daily Turbo Pay” (to avoid people asking stupid questions just for fun). 🙂
I had a quick look, without checking any details, just checking the product page, income disclaimer, terms of use, 1 video.
You’re basically selling the income opportunity, where people can earn money on recruiting others?
They can also earn money through a replicated “webshop” selling different types of “training material” (e-books), for a 100% retail profit. I didn’t check any details there, so product type is vaguely defined. The other type of “product” is marketing videos for the products and the opportunity.
QUESTION:
Do you track any of the potential retail sale of the e-books to external customers, e.g. do you record any statistics for that type of sale?
That question is related to the pyramid scheme issue, i.e. when the PRIMARY product or service is the opportunity itself, and the only realistic method to earn an income is through recruitment (in an endless chain of recruitments).
But other than that, I can see your idea here, e.g. “deliver a more complete solution to something” (opportunity + products / training material + marketing videos for every parts of it).
The products / training material seems to have been carefully selected to cover a range of topics (rather than randomly selected ‘because the title sounded nice and interesting’).
I wanted to say this….apparently bashing has become reality these days. Dave is not doing anything any different than a person who wants the best for their families. Didn’t your parents ever tell you not to put all your eggs in one basket?
Also, Empowernetwork does not tell people about the admin and secret fees they have. They keep saying come in at $25 bucks which is really $50 bucks when you are billed monthly.
Then you have to go all in to sit and listen to other gurus who made a boat load of money but really don’t tell you how they did it step by step but just glorify their humble beginnings……You have to sell everything to gain something with them.
The whole point is to me….Dave has found his purpose….Zigs way has always reigned true. You help enough people you in turn will prosper.
Over the years I have watched gurus just be for self…ranking in leadership boards bringing in hoards of people but they could not keep the people because the people could not duplicate what they were doing to get those big payouts…..so what happens to the people happens to them directly as well.
Finally I am seeing a trend….I need to help these people do what I do so that I won’t have to find another company or hop to something else to build an organization all over again. Dave I am with you…..Mardy has never steered me wrong.
I gave a relatively positive comment, e.g. pointing out that the training had been carefully selected, and that he had added some value to it (e.g. the videos). I also asked a question about tracking of retail sales, the factor that can separate it from a recruitment scheme.
I will consider that to be fair enough. It has left plenty of room for him to add information or defend his own business model.
I don’t know anything about what “Zigs way” is. The idea “You help enough people you in turn will prosper” is actually a HALF TRUTH, a method most commonly used to mislead people (or allow them to mislead themselves).
Another variant of the idea is “To get what YOU want, the best way is to help alot of other people to get what THEY want”, e.g. by selling something to them or other similar ideas.
The idea CAN be true but it can also fail miserably. Sometimes it will bring people to jail rather than to prosperity. It depends on WHAT people want and how legitimate it is to help them getting it.
So your HALF TRUTH is actually flawed. Don’t expect me to support it.
Zig Ziggler sales guru said “you can get anything you want in life if you help enough people get what they want”. That was widely repeated to Amway neophytes back in the 80’s
He has copied the idea from someone else.
Dale Carnegie, author of How to Win Friends and Influence People, put the same thought this way, “The only way to influence someone is to find out what they want, and show them how to get it.”
Huge difference between working for an honest living and creating something that is potentially illegal.
@Oz
Is there an error in the compensation plan, in “Pass up Commissions”?
Second, third, fourth OK
Fifth OK
Sixth, seventh, eighth (same as fifth and ninth)
Ninth OK
@M_Norway
Thanks for the pickup, I went back and checked and yeah six, seventh and eight are kept. I’ve updated the article accordingly. When grouping the different sales I think I might have copied and pasted from the wrong line (I got the grouping right so not sure why I had the pass up text there).
Anyway, fixed now.
Have any of you making these negative comments ever worked with Dave because I have and I know his knowledge is valuable especially in internet marketing, and as a sponsor he does not lose track of helping those that ask for help.
Don’t hate on someone just because you joined on a deal with him and didn’t have the cajones to put in some good work yourself.
I can testify that if you want to achieve success in internet marketing and you are teachable, he makes himself available to help which is more than can be said about most sponsors.
@Michael
Why? Does Dave run a separate compensation plan for those he “works with” and only subject those he doesn’t work with to the recruitment scheme?
How old are you, 5? The business model is the problem here, not your bromance with Dave.
your psychic abilities have failed you once again.
I can only speak for myself. I haven’t worked with him, and I don’t have the intention of doing it.
I gave him credit for having “carefully selected relevant material” or something similar in post #9. He could have used that as an “opening line” to add something or explain something.
If I remember correctly, the products were $20 ebooks plus presentation videos for each ebook (“pay for each book to earn the right to resell it and earn 100% commission”, a few passups).
He should probably have added something there about his business ideas.