Crackdown on illegal sale of Valentus products in UK
Charlotte Thomson resides in the UK county of Cornwall. Looking to build a local business to compliment real estate development, Thomson signed up as a Valentus affiliate earlier this year in January.
After six months of promoting Valentus and putting her “heart and soul into it”, last week Thomson received a visit from Trading Standards.
Trading Standards are an enforcement regulator who, among other things, regulate health and safety regulation in the UK.
In a Facebook live video published on August 5th, Thomson recalls the visit;
I had a visit this week from Trading Standards.
I was in my dressing gown holding my little puppy, just got out of the shower.
Just having a normal day thinking everything was fine, and (then) I had two officers at the door, including an enforcement officer, telling me that I’m trading illegally.
Although she stands by Valentus’ products, she acknowledges that they are “not UK approved”.
They’re great products and I believe in them but they are not UK approved.
They’re not registered in the UK. They’re not allowed to be sold in the UK.
For those unfamiliar with the company, Valentus market a weight loss range headed up by their flagship SlimRoast coffee.
Evidently Valentus requires regulatory approval to sell their products in the UK, which for some reason the company has not obtained.
All the more alarming when you consider Alexa cite the UK as the third largest source of traffic to the Valentus website (15%).
Thomson claims at no time did Valentus management indicate there was an issue marketing the MLM opportunity in the UK.
We haven’t had any information on this from the powers above, and we’ve been selling (Valentus products) unknowingly, that this is the situation.
And that’s why I’ve had Trading Standards on my door.
At the time of publication Trading Standards have yet to comment publicly on the matter.
Valentus itself has nothing about their products being illegal in the UK either on their website or social media profiles.
Thomson meanwhile states she’s heeded Trading Standard’s warning, and is unwilling to ‘sell products that I’ve got to look over my shoulder all the time‘.
I want to be involved in a company that’s 100% legitimate, 100% registered, 100% proven (and) scientifically backed up, and that’s followed all the protocol(s) that they should have done.
I don’t think (Valentus) should have launched in the UK without following all these guidelines, without following all these rules and putting all the girls that I work with … in this position.
Thomson has since stopped promoting Valentus.
I cannot be associated with this company anymore because it’s trading illegally in the UK. That is a fact.
I am walking away from the business. I have lost all trust and all faith in this company.
I have worked every hour … since January the 14th to make this a massive business. I am walking away from four figures a week.
Thomson urges anyone who might doubt her claims to contact Trading Standards directly.
I am not the first this has happened to and I’m certainly not the last.
There’ll be more knocks on doors, whether it’s in Cornwall, whether it’s in London or wherever, they’re watching and they know what we’re doing – and unfortunately we’ve been mislead and told a pack of lies.
Thomson announced on August 5th that she’d signed up with Ariix.
BehindMLM reviewed Valentus in January, 2016. We concluded the MLM opportunity leaned towards affiliate autoship recruitment over retail sales.
This seems to mirror Thomson’s experience with the company, as per a followup post made on August 9th;
I was introduced to the business in January and told by Carly Steel and her uplines to order 16 boxes to make the most profit as the cost per box decreases the more you buy.
So for the Leaders to now say they have never sold is nonsense. If we couldn’t sell, why did we need to order ‘stock’?
When I joined the company in January there was no advice or rules on ‘compliance’.
It was only in April that strict rules came in that we couldn’t post company or product names.
We were advised this was because we were at the final stages of registration, but that the products had been approved and we were just waiting on the UK labels.
So yes, I sent a message out about a ‘weightloss coffee’ in Spring time, to Network Cornwall, a networking site that other women use to sell products or advertise their businesses.
This was not a paid database and is optional whether you receive emails from other members, so at no point is this spamming.
THIS despite what fingers are being pointed, is NOT the reason myself, or the company is being investigated.
It is the products and the company failing to adhere to UK laws.
For the company to now be still trading without selling a product is a Pyramid Scheme – Illegal.
So whether they are selling or just ‘recruiting’ they are acting illegally.
All Beth Robinson’s videos that showed how to boost sales and make profit from selling boxes have been removed from YouTube – Make of this what you will.
I have screen prints from their Team Pages telling reps to keep selling but only to close family or friends, and not on social media, to avoid being caught – What sort of company is this!?
I have been advised by Trading Standards that I cannot sell or be associated with the brand, and that other leaders and reps are under investigation for also selling illegally, whether they were doing so knowingly or not.
All I have done is try to speak out and protect everyone else in the firing line.
The amount of lies and deceit from the top leaders and coaches in this company has shocked me – Which led me to my decision not to continue.
Yes I was offered legal assistance but I was also told I would be ‘suspended’ to pacify Trading Standards’ while a separate account was set up in another name.
Ask yourself why would they do this if I was at fault? I do not want, or need to be defended by a company with such unscrupulous morals and little consideration for their representatives.
I am angry, upset and disappointed at the abuse I have received for standing up for myself and the thousands of other reps in the UK.
I will not stand for any more threats and abuse – And any evidence of such will be forwarded to the relevant authorities.
Sounds like there’s a fair bit more than just affiliate autoship going on hey…
Oz~
I’m wondering if this latest scandal a results of Louis Volpe/ Jane Lee and “Team Success” selling illegal counterfeit coffee aboard? This latest has no real connection to Dave-Jordan/Valentus! Toney
Um, this “latest scandal” is about Trading Standards cracking down on the illegal sale of Valentus products by UK affiliates.
Of course it has a connection to Dave Jordan and Valentus.
But who was selling it? Was it being sold under Mr Jordan or Volpe?
I did a bit of digging and found out the company dissolved in April 2017. I ask about this in team chat on Facebook to be told Dave Jordan dissolved it because a partner left and he is re registering. Toney
Affiliates in the UK. They were buying Valentus products and marketing them, which according to Trading Standards is illegal because Valentus haven’t acquired required registrations.
You sound confused. MLM affiliates buy from a company, they don’t buy from company owners (unless there’s something dodgy going on with company owner positions milking downline sales).
True! I’m just playing Devil advocate here, if there was link between this and the other lawsuit going on, since Mr Volpe was selling to dealers at a lower cost. Toney
You’d have to dig into how the products were arriving in the UK.
Charlotte Thompson’s comments suggests she was buying products from the company itself. I’d assume Valentus were shipping product into the UK directly.
If they were doing it under the table through affiliates, that’s a separate regulatory issue (and not implied in Thompson’s video).
From what I gather those begin the clients were unaware they were purchasing illegal coffee from Mr Volpe and Success Team members and many bought it up since it was such a great price at 28 a box, then sold it at regular price to buyers.
I like to find out if this it the real issue behind this deal, because I saw first hand the Success Team selling it for 28 a box up on FB and you could buy as much as you wanted.
Only later to see many selling it for the higher price since the original Valentus Slim Roast was no longer being sold. Toney
Considering Valentus isn’t registered to sell products in the UK, I think the sale of any of their coffee products popped up on Trading Standard’s radar.
Why do you find it necessary to complicate what is a very simple situation ???
In Charlotte Thompsons’ statement she made it abundantly clear what the problem is when she said:
So, unless some of the distributors were bypassing the usual distribution channels,( and there’s no indication that was happening) Valentus itself is responsible for shipping unlicensed product into the UK.
Occams’ Razor rules again.
@littleroundman True! I’m looking forward to seeing what the out come of the lawsuit brings about and hopefully all the truth and put this hole matter to rest. As the saying goes.
“There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth”! Toney
They might not be legal to sell to UK but they must be legal and approved and licensed in other countries especially Canada so they must be safe to consume.
Just don’t understand why they taken song long to register in uk.
The products in question are not illegal, if they were they could not even be imported to the UK…and yes, they pass through customs.
The products are not for re-sale, that is why Ms Thomson has had a problem with Trading Standards. She can promote them but not sell them directly.
I did read that Ms Thomson declares the products “fantastic” and “proven to work”. Good news for those promoters staying within company and national compliancy rules.
Keep in mind, Ms Thomson did not “create jobs”. The people who she recruited had to pay sometimes hundreds of $$$ up front as it was a classic pyramid scheme.
ALL MLM are a scam and preys on the most vulnerable with promises of celebrity lifestyles and “four figure weekly” incomes. Toney
If they can’t be legally sold via the MLM opportunity and that is the sole distribution method, then for all intents and purposes Valentus products are illegal in the UK.
Anyone can buy Valentus and that’s where the problem come to play, so this would mean seller like Ms Thomson were going outside their UK laws and selling it illegally to customer, not Valentus!
Ms Thomson would have know this if she had been in accordance with government require, after all when it come to the Law not knowing is never an excusable excuse! Toney
Like I said, the only way to acquire Valentus products is through their affiliate network.
Technically the affiliates are breaking the law but only because Valentus has deceived them into thinking marketing and selling Valentus in the UK was legal.
The UK is the third-largest source of traffic to the Valentus website. They have a responsibility to their affiliate-base and in this instance they’ve let them down.
As a former business owner now retired and having done business throughout the world it still comes down to you, you must know and understand the Laws and go through the proper channels for permits, Tax ID numbers etc.
Hate to say, but this is vague as heck. Why exactly is Valentus not able to be sold?
Quoting from food.gov.uk fsactguide.pdf
So one can assume that Valentus have done one or more of the following:
* Valentus coffee were not properly labelled
* Valentus coffee does not contain all legal ingredients
* Valentus coffee made untruthful claims
Not when it comes to working an MLM opportunity within legal parameters. If there’s still a problem then it’s with the MLM company itself.
That’s why Thompson wasn’t charged and only cautioned. Whether anything happens to Valentus remains to be seen, but I doubt it seeing as they don’t have a physical presence in the UK (that I know of).
Being an MLM affiliate-customer is hardly the definition of a “business owner” in the real world. Them being dubbed that by the MLM company is all part of the ruse.
She’s just spouting the usual standard lines that MLM adherents like to come out with.
The only ways that drinking instant coffee is going to make you lose weight are either if it contains a laxative or if the user follows a diet plan at the same time in which case why bother with the overpriced coffee?
Now I’ve seen photographs of Valentus’ owner, Dave Jordan, and I think it’s fair to say that he is not exactly a slim Jim.
In fact I would go as far to say that he’s a bit chubby so not exactly a role model for the product that he’s flogging.
As a former business owner, I sold food all over the world and what my seller did with my products once paid for in their hands became their responsibility (since they’re independents).
From what I understand with MLM your, your own boss, one must be responsible with filing their own Tax and get a Tax ID number and get a lic with your city do business etc. Just like my independent did! Toney
@milliem LMAO
True! Not only are Dave Jordan Valentus folks packing on the pounds but so are Vitae Global Lean Java Bean, viewed pics from the Las Vegas NV launch, CEO Jane Lee looks have gained back all her weight and then some as well as Mr Volpe & wife both sporting tummy bulge…
Still the supposed SlimRoast 1.0. original (that actual seemed to work) is still missing in action, nether Valentus or Vitae Global Lean Java Bean have it, where it go? Who the real formulator behind it? Crickets.
As for Ms Thomson former model and now has been at best, she selling drops you take to lose weight, twice a day, like before she claiming this is even better than the coffee etc, etc! Life of the MLM … Toney
Charlotte said:
That was the time that the Valentus had its UK Limited Company dissolved by Companies House, which rather suggests files was seized and at that point UK authorities realised they were trading illegally and I suspect under Food Standards Regulations.
Easiest way to enforce is via Trading Standards, hence the subsequent raid in Cornwall.
Does anyone not find it “interesting” that she was admits being suspended for spamming just days before and joining a competing company the next day….
Just makes me wonder….
Nope. Cuz that didn’t happen.
Salty Valentus affiliates can’t accept the Valentus MLM opportunity is illegal in the UK?
Do any of you know that Valentus is actually in the process of registration right across Europe including the UK. And that all Independent representatives were told it was not for resale in the UK.
Most ignored it, hence why Trading standards got involved. Independent representatives are also advised not to make Health claims but again most ignore it.
It is irresponsible Independent representatives that have created this story. Lets see what happens in the next month or so when European registration finally comes through.
It’s a problem caused solely by Valentus. Trading where they were trading in the Uk and the EU Canada …..without the required paperwork.
Other distributors have been warned others inhave dropped it like it like hot cakes.
Did Valentus take any action against its UK affiliates? Or did it just turn a blind-eye and continue to accept revenue from the illegal sale of its products in the UK?
When an MLM company fails to take action against its affiliates for misconduct, they become responsible.
Valentus has kept conspicuously quiet in this story. That’s not the action of a company taken by surprise. It’s the action of a company caught out.
Valentus’ UK affiliates are responsible for illegally operating the Valentus MLM opportunity in the UK. But that doesn’t negate Valentus’ own corporate responsibility.
Listen to this from the head of registrations for valentus laughable: youtu.be/jt-VLNEZDUg
Are Valentus affiliates still going to pretend the company doesn’t have any liability?
LMAO.. Ok that gal on the tape (youtube.com/embed/jt-VLNEZDUg?rel=0 ) is Luan Mountford, she with Vitae Global Lean Java Bean and formerly was with Valentus.
Luan Mountford doesn’t seem to understand Vitae Global also a pyramid scheme and it’s formulator Mr Louis Volpe, CEO Jane Lee and Angie Forman plus other from the Success Team are in trouble with RICO and involved in a major lawsuit as well…
Once again this get rich fast folks will be looking for another get rich fast deal..
Some adivce here? “Get A FREAKING JOB”!
Remember the only way you’ll ever get rich through any MLM you must have others buy into it, customer are a waste!… 😉 Toney
Go up and checkout all these folks from Vitae Global Lean Java Bean and Valentus. There all still overweight, unhealthy, so your just pissing expensive pee folks!
Really go to FB or google their names look at their pics! The magic coffee not working, in fact the original Slim Roast that did actually seem to work is been missing in actions since Mr Jordan and Mr Volpe parted ways, checkout the boxes you’ll see nether companies are selling the original Slim Roast formula.
Where it go and who the real mastermind behind it??? All you’ll get is crickets… Toney
I wonder if the original slim roast contained ephedrine? Something very suspicious about this just disappearing.
I don’t know the timeline of when it was manufactured, but maybe they were adding something they shouldn’t have been. MLM is full of scammers after all.
Regardless, even if the product did work, why would people pay retail when anyone can sign up and become an affiliate.
I’m having visions of the MLM “Metabolife 356” dancing in my head.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolife
Google will turn up many hits about how the “original” one worked and the replacement doesn’t compare. Seems to have a similar ring to it.
Just sayin…..
Char right? Really folks checkout these folks who were using the original Slim Roast, they did lose weight but now? NOT! In-fact both companies (Vitae Global Lean Java Bean and Valentus) are gaining it back and then some, nothing will ever compare to a healthy diet and working out! Even Jane Lee with Vitae Global Lean Java Bean posted she was taking/taken the Pills in fact five bottles and the coffee, she bigger than ever! And basically many are regaining under these new formulas , now there pushing the term, not skinny but leaner! Time wake-up smell the BS folks!
Jane G Lee
So I took 1 capsule lean engergy this morning, no coffee this is before breakfast…after few minutes I felt mental clarity…I’m on my 5th bottle already 20oz of water which I normally drink lots of water that’s my issue..so thirsty all day.
HELLO! Drinking water fill one up, so yeah your not gonna feel hungry! But still Jane Lee has gained back all her weight and then some, go view her FB pics all public..
Correction. I meant to write “ephedra” which was the one that actually worked in 356 – not ephedrine.
If you do a google search on Vitae Global (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
^^ This article isn’t about Vitae Global.
I’d not be shocked to learn they are involved at some level…
Until then…
Louis Volpe has a lab in a country where coca leaf is legal. Look up the side effects of coca leaf.
@Maggie
From everything I’m learning Mr Volpe a real tool, “screwdriver”!
Let’s get one thing Clear Kevin! We independent reps were advised that the company was licensed and we were aloud to resel!
It only came to light that this was intact a lie when a independent rep starting to Dig further! Beth Robinson Europes first blue diamond leader was caught out!
Evidence has been found that her and the 18 diamond leaders New exactly what they were doing and continue to do this!
In fact all of Beth’s videos and material have been removed! She is the Leader and infact led 1000s into creating multiple 6 figures earners illegally! I was a rep and we know the real story!!
From my understanding it was the Canadian leadership who authorized the UK, not USA and that would fall under Dave Jordan!
The fact was reps were selling to friends rather than directing them to the website to buy, some just being greedy and got caught. Packaging labels needed changing also to comply with UK.
All done know. No license required to sell from the website. The products are good and work. (Ozedit: marketing spam removed)
The new coffee for the UK launches Nov 1st from what I hear.
I received this from someone in the know and high up!
Valentus is officially open for Biz in the U.K.!
Yep looks be true kids. So happy ending after all! And some sad folks who bailed ship earlier!
The MAN of his words. He promised & he delivers, that’s our Valentus CEO Dave Jordan.
Valentus United Kingdom is officially official!I would like to take the time to thank Dave Jordan & Terri Recknor for getting our company registered in Europe, our Dublin office open, our Netherlands warehouse ready, approved and legal products/ labelling /packaging and dealing with me hanging off their tail everyday.
You delivered what you promised and proved many people wrong.
We now after 3 months of taking a backseat can run with this incredible opportunity in which you have given us Dave and show you that it was worth all of the blood, sweat, tears.
Not forgetting our uplines who have continuously supported us Jessica Luis David Holland Stephen J. Rosen Tara Rosen Barry Hughes ❤️
I’m off yo celebrate. From everyone at inspire … THANKYOU!
Delivers what exactly? Every one of the ingredients in Valentus that supposedly helps with weightloss is rated ineffective by your Ad Council or whatever your equivalent is called.
@Kasey
I think it’s pretty clear who brought all this negativity upon Valentus and the owner Mr Jordan and if you follow the trail it all leads back to Mr Volpe!
Mr Jordan has had a clean record for 17 years in MLM as a clean upright business man, with nothing but good said about him until Mr Vople joined Valentus and along with CEO Jane G Lee, Angie Foreman and Mr Volpe’s Team Success they’ve brought it down!
This will all come out in court 2018! These folks are criminals! Toney
If they have sorted out their UK problems that’s good. Just a shame they had to go ass backwards about it.
The trail goes back to Valentus misleading affiliates into marketing illegal products in the UK. Trying to place the blame on specific individuals in management is nitpicking.
OZ I’m looking forward to the up coming lawsuit! Like I said, it explain a lot!
I just got contacted on Instagram by a Valentus Rep in the UK…
They’re still trading in the UK!!!
Valentus is back in the UK and being widely touted – no idea about legality.
Remains banned from my Facebook groups.
Use to work for them, Sioux Falls SD.
This is actually very incorrect information.
The only thing illegal about the coffee was that it was not to be ‘resold’ in the UK. Bought, held as stock and sold on.
It was always legal to sell via the website. However, now the 2 flagships coffees are cleared for resale and have been for some time.
Valentus are members of the Direct Selling Association in the UK which means everything has been checked, products, business model, compensation plan and so on – and declared legal and above board.
It wasn’t permitted to be sold in the UK period at the time.
nothing. You pay a fee and the DSA let you use their logo on your website.
Nothing has been checked, nothing has been declared and/or above aboard. The DSA has nothing to do with government regulators.
Are they?
Care to give me their membership number and what it means, please?
This is because Valentus Limited appears to be a dissolved company in the United Kingdom, and since dissolved that would nullify their membership of DSA under DSA regulations.
Interesting to read back over this Valentus debacle. I wonder how many of the defenders upthread are still with them? None I suspect.
Beth Brennan (nee Robinson) has now embarked on a new venture set up by a husband and wife Valentus couple who are from the U.K. but living in the US. It’s called Nutonic.
It’s calling itself a dropshipping company. At least one of the products contains Melatonin which is prescription only in the U.K. lots of implied legitimacy such as “made in an FDA facility” and probably not for resale in the U.K. So it’s Valentus all over again.
It’s a shame the U.K. authorities are so uninterested in examining the true agenda of MLM and so lazy that they let the miss-titled DSA position itself as a regulatory body when it is no such thing.
The fact that Valentus can continue to trade with its blatant ‘7 ways to earn’ is a scandal.
Beth Brannan has now left Nutonic, obviously ripped them off too like all the others, how she gets people to follow her and trust her is beyond me.
She is a total scam merchant who cares only about herself while portraying the victim, she should be jail with her ponzi schemes.