Wealth Creation Alliance Review: A micro Ponzi
There is no information on the Wealth Creation Alliance website indicating who runs or owns the company.
The company domain (‘wcarev.com’) was registered on the 19th August, 2012, however the domain registration information is set to private.
The server Wealth Creation Alliance is hosted on appears to be private and is also home to a number of other MLM business opportunities.
- Mega 2×2 – a recruitment driven 2×2 matrix opportunity, launched February 2010
- Prosperity 3×2 – a recruitment driven 3×2 matrix opportunity, launched May 2010
- Mega Money Maker 3 – a $60 signup and $20 a month recruitment driven scheme paying out commissions with membership fees, launched in mid 2010 (now defunct)
- Leverage 2 Prosperity – $10 recruitment driven 2×2 matrix opportunity, launched February 2011
- Straight Line Autobuilder – $30 recruitment driven opportunity, launched July 2011
- Super 2×2 – $10 a month recruitment driven opportunity , launched December 2011
- Leverage 2 Prosperity 2 – $50 recruitment driven 2×2 matrix opportunity, launched December 2011
Out of the above companies, Mega 2×2, Prosperity 3×2 ownership is credited to Rob Nunes and Paul Skulitz. Leverage to Prosperity, Straight Line Autobuilder and Super 2×2 ownership is solely credited to Skulitz.
Given the above, there’s a strong indication that Paul Skulitz is running and owns Wealth Creation Alliance. Whether Rob Nunes is involved is unclear but given past partnerships between Nunes and Skulitz, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was also involved in some way.
Update 8th September, 2012 – In a comment left on this article, Skulitz has confirmed his ownership of Wealth Creation Alliance along with three unnamed “very good partners” (further information has been requested).
Skulitz also confirmed that Nunes ‘is not part of this (WCA) and will not be part of it‘. /end update
One other Skulitz-owned MLM opportunity, previously reviewed on BehindMLM, is Biz Power Extreme, a $29.95-$39.95 recruitment driven opporunity launched in Jaunuary 2012.
Why Skulitz does not disclose ownership of Wealth Creation Alliance on the company website is a mystery.
Read on for a full review of the Wealth Creation Alliance MLM opportunity.
The Wealth Creation Alliance Product Line
Wealth Creation Alliance has no retailable products or services. The company states on its website that
ANYONE can profit with this business model, WITHOUT SELLING ANYTHING.
The Wealth Creation Alliance Compensation Plan
Operating on a micro scale, Wealth Creation Alliance members join the company for free and then are able to make $2 investments with the company.
After an investment has been made, Wealth Creation Alliance pay out a daily ROI, with investments reaching maturity once the ROI hits $3.25.
Of this $3.25, 65% has to be re-invested with members only able to withdraw out of the remaining 35%. Each investor is able to invest a maximum of $10,000.
In addition to paying members a return on their personal investments, Wealth Creation Alliance also pay out referral commissions. 10% is offered on investments made by directly recruited members (your level 1), and 5% on any investments made by members your directly recruited members recruit (your level 2).
Joining Wealth Creation Alliance
Membership to Wealth Creation Alliance is free, however members must invest if they with to withdraw any earnings.
Free members are able to earn virtual profits via referral commissions, however if they wish to withdraw they themselves must first make an investment into the scheme.
Conclusion
Wealth Creation Alliance market themselves as
an advertising site that will cater to your advertising needs. We are not an investment company or HYIP,
stating that any ‘earnings are just a bonus to our valued members‘.
This is put forth on the contention that when members invest in the company, they are infact not investing but rather purchasing “advertising credits”.
As per the Wealth Creation Alliance refund policy, this is clearly not the case:
All sales are final. The products we sell are advertising credits and is automatically added to your account upon purchase so we do not offer any refunds.
If advertising credits were infact being sold by the company, logically should those advertising credits not be used, members would be entitled to a refund on unused credits.
Furthermore if advertising credits were being sold, there would be nothing stopping Wealth Creation Alliance members from marketing said credits to retail customers.
There would also be no need for a mandatory re-investment account either (why force your members to purchase anything?).
Mechanically members join Wealth Creation Alliance, invest money and then earn a guaranteed ROI of $3.25 on each $2 investment. This equates to a ROI of 162% for each investment made.
Wealth Creation Alliance don’t guarantee the time in which this ROI is paid out, however they do specify
The more new customers that signup for our quality advertising, the more revenue that is generated to share across our customers base.
Given that, as demonstrated above, advertising is not being sold but rather members are investing into the scheme with the expectation of a 162% ROI being paid out to them, the above paragraph equates to “the more members invest into Wealth Creation Alliance, the more money we have to pay out”.
With no other source of revenue other than member investments, effectively Wealth Creation Alliance is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme, albeit on a micro scale.
Looking at Skulitz’s past ventures over the years, after the numerous launches of recruitment driven matrix schemes, it seems he’s decided to kick things up a notch and enter the Ponzi scheme arena.
Unfortunately whereas in matrix based pyramid schemes when the recruitment stops, once members stop investing new money into Wealth Creation Alliance, the scheme will collapse.
The 65% forced re-investment rule will prolong things for a bit no doubt, but ultimately you can’t continue to pay out >100% ROIs when all you’re doing is shuffling new member investments around to pay off existing investors.
I just don’t understand, will someone please enlighten me, since Ponzi & pyramid schemes are clearly illegal, with Madoff sent to 150 years in prison and all, why are so many still starting/operating such scams? Aren’t they afraid of going to jail???
Oz, Thanks for looking into this.
When I saw their web site, I thought “Wow, they barely put any effort at all into trying to disguise this thing. They all but admit it’s a ponzi scheme right on their home page.”
But I guess trying to jam this thing out 2 or 3 days after Zeek blew up just didn’t allow them to put much time into the “detail”. Just jam it out there and hope to hook a few bummed out, wandering Zeekheads. Weak.
Not quite as weak as Vitel’s ambulance chasing, vulture “rescue plan” offer within hours of the Zeek blow up, but WCA’s effort seems to be in the same family.
Joined WCA for free, I thought it looked a lot like Zeek, but was told I could buy the ad units and market any of my affiliate marketing links to any of my other products, that led back to my websites.
Would that not be a product? Also, that I did not have to market or post ads to join the WCA. Any thoughts on this.
Red Flags at this point, because I joined yesterday, and shared it with another marketer friend, but since sharing it, website has been down for maintenance, without communication other than the website saying down for maintenance.
Zeek Rewards: Bid purchases don’t pay out a guaranteed ROI, investments do. Funded by new member investments? Ponzi scheme.
WCA: Advertising purchases don’t pay out a guaranteed ROI, investments do. Funded by new member investments? Ponzi scheme.
Most Ponzi schemes are small, the operator get maybe 100K (or not even that) decide that’s enough, so he closes it down (when it no longer grab enough recruits) and starts another one. So they generally fly under the radar of most regulators, as such crimes are rarely worthwhile to go after (with lawyers and prosecutors as expensive as they are).
Zeek Rewards is an anomaly, that manage to become an internet meme as well as a scam that got very big.
New HYIPs (these schemes) appear every day. There are even dedicated “forums”, “rating sites”, and so on for them. 99.9% of them fail within 3 months. Zeek was HEAVILY promoted on them, because Zeek “looks” more legitimate than these HYIPs, having that “penny auction” disguise.
Most HYIPs are also operated by non-US folks with Internet shills pushing them. It’s believed that 99% of the “success stories” are fakes or shills as well.
Go read the Federal indictment of “Ad Surf Daily”.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/dc/programs/vw/adsurfdaily.html
And you’ll see a LOT of familiar terms, such as “ad units”, “advertise your website”, and so on.
“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” — George Santayana
To fix this mess…WCA needs to have affiliates send customers to purchase ad credits. The affiliates would then be given credits for each unit purchased by these customers.
Profits then could be shared with the affiliates at whatever method they choose.
WCA is virtually a clone of Ad Surf Daily auto-surf Ponzi that got nailed by SEC back in 2008, with SLIGHT verbiage changes.
WCA is owned by Blaine Williams. He is a con man, has ripped people off for years, promising to build downlines, taking up co-ops in the industry and never fulfilling one.
He is a liar, a cheat and anyone does business with him will get hurt, all in the name of JESUS. He has been at this for years, click on this link to see his first, caught, ponzi scheme http://www.wnd.com/1999/04/3664.
People need to RUN and not turn back. You will get BURNED…………….
@Ben Miday
When you say “WCA needs to have affiliates send customers to purchase ad credits”, by customers you mean other affiliates?
I can see in their PayPlan page they say “For every ad purchase YOU USE, you qualify to earn a percentage of our global profit pool” but it is not clear to me what they mean by “YOU USE”.
Are their affiliates to USE their purchased ads in some way?
Yes I am one of the owners of WCA and I am proud of it. No Rob Nunes is not part of this and will not be part of it.
I have 3 very good partners who have the same dream as me and to help the average person earn a income. We will have a lot of good things to rise income for our members coming out in the near future some are already to come out. I will not hide I have always run a honest business and I always will.
Our site is down because we were under a DDOS attack and Host Gator ask us to close the site until we had it under control. The site will be re opened as soon as we have moved to a new server and have everything running right.
Well this facebook page has been taken down now (Ozedit: WCA’s Facebook page is up as of 8th September, 2012) I think that was the official one. So I guess just maybe I just lost 160.00 :(.
They sent out a newsletter saying that the site would be up in 24-48 hours we shall see. This really sucks
PPBlog has an article up on WCA: HYIPs:
http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/09/07/update-wealth-creation-alliance-now-publishing-ads-for-hyip-scheme-after-hyip-scheme/
Who are the other owners? And why are they not disclosed on the company website?
Thanks for clarifying that.
Thanks K. Chang for the info, you are correct about and not letting history repeat itself.
They will not disclose the other owners Oz, it expose truth. Call them ponzi mob.
http://asdupdates.com/wordpress/?p=2031
WCA’s CEO is Blaine Williams; President is Mark Capese.
I think you mean Mark CaMpese and Blaine Williams aka COACH, co-founders of tribe5global.
It seems that you can’t find a biz online that isn’t being called a ponzi scheme or a scam!
Am on the conference call right now and they are discussing compliance and meeting with well known MLM attorney, They are adding additional retail products being introduced on Monday night call.
Stayed tuned people have a little faith!
MLM attorneys don’t define whether or not a business is a POnzi scheme, its business model does.
Given WCA currently has no retailable products, I’m assuming you meant adding some, rather than additional. In any case, I’ll believe it when I see it.
I imagine it’ll be retail advertising made available to non-members, however nobody will buy it and mechanically most of the money still being pumped into WCA will still be coming from members expecting a guaranteed ROI.
Why did they even bother to launch the opportunity without a retail side to it?
Can anyone tell me what Facebooks product is? And their worth a billion dollars.
Advertisers pay to market their “banners” on facebook and facebook makes money by it. WCA allow’s affiliates AKA business owners to market their banners on their site and WCA get paid for it.
In Facebooks case the only people making money are the owners, well as affiliate we are also owners so why is it wrong for us to make money?
The attorney that is giving representation to any client and or business has to inform them of the legal or illegal aspect of their business.
Now whether or not the client heeds to the advice of their attorney, well is up to them.
And these recommendations are based on the business model. Again, lawyers don’t define whether or not a company is a Ponzi schene, its business model does.
…and you don’t need to be a lawyer to analyse an MLM business model.
@JL
Why? Facebook isn’t an MLM company, nor do they use a MLM compensation plan to pay out company affiliates.
Comparison fail.
Keep in mind that Zeek did both, and it didn’t save them.
This is ASD1.1. Go read up ASD before you insist WCA is NOT a Ponzi. it’s using the same language and same explanations.
Not another one! Good gravy.
Wealth Creation Alliance deceives us.
I had about 40 positions and 20 referrals. Site not working for a while. Now I went to the back office. I was left with 28 positions and 12 referrals, the rest is all gone!
This is a TOTAL PONZI SCAM. Angelz mentioned above that she cannot find it is a ponzi scheme online but you need to look again. The company was up and running very quick and it took a week to saturate the internet.
I google searched the owner of the company and the only thing I could pull up other than his ponzi back in Fresno years ago (which tells me he is at it again) was the fact that he was successful in ONE company which he got terminated from, Monavie, probably was doing the same type of ponzi activity in that company.
Not to mention they continue to have negative complaints online on the facebook page but continually delete all the people calling them out, must be a hard job.
Tom and other—Try to get your facts a bit more straight here.
1. The Fresno County case was from 1999. I was charged with violating California PC 327.
I was a distributor for a company called Constitutional Colleagues. We were selling Dr Cleon Skousen’s home study courseon American history from the Center for Constitutional Studies out of Salt Lake City Utah.
We did market it through a Multi Level Plan and the District Attorney claimed it was a Pyramid. After wasting a couple of million dollars of the taxpayers dollars and several court appearances this case was dropped and all four of us were found INNOCENT!!
Unlike this blog–Where apparently we are no longer innocent until proven guilty.
2. I was not terminated from MonaVie–Never even recieved a disciplinary notice from compliance there. Resigned to go to Xowii and made the move just at the right time.
At WCA we are selling at this time Banner and Text ads to the local small business community and training them on the effective use of these adds.
WCA is building a local ad directory that we will be rolling out this week. This will be much like a craigslist product with many more display adds in it.
WCA is building an online auction website much as ebay (not a reverse auction or penny auction at this time)
WCA will be adding additional products and services for retail and personal use in the weeks ahead through the WCA Super Mall.
In the beginning, you may think I am a supporter of WCA, but… read on.
Every $2 purchase gives a $3.25 ROI in… brace yourselves… 5 days! I speak from experience since I couldn’t resist not to register. The daily return is approx 20%! And this is without a downline!
The “program” has been alive for approx 3 weeks, if I’m not mistaken. They claim to have reached 20.000 affiliates in this period of time. Do the math and you’ll deduce that their affiliates seem to TRIPLE every TWO days! Check out yourselves how the tripling goes!
Day1:1, Day3:3, Day5:9, Day7:27, Day9:81, Day11:243, Day13:729, Day15:2187, Day17:6561, Day19:19683
There you are! In 20 days, 20.000 affiliates….
Keep the math going and you’ll see that with that rate, they are bound to reach 1.5 million affiliates in 8 (eight) days!
I don’t know if this sounds totally unrealistic but let’s now turn away from counting affiliates and let’s count money… I did some math again (good old Excel) and guess what?
I need to ask the WCA executives to do me a h-u-g-e favor. To keep the program alive for TWO more months (just 60 days guys… please!). My initial $20 will become $3.000 !!!
Or, if they could possibly give it 30 days more (a total life of 90 days), because my $20 will become… brace yourselves again… $54.000 !!!
I’ll bet you think I’m joking, but I’m not! This is exactly what the current system promises! 162.5% ROI with a 65% mandatory repurchase after every cycle (maturity period is 5 days as we speak).
Mind you, in the above calculations I repurchased the full 100% of all my 5-day returns, not just the 65%. And I NEVER had to put in any more money than the initial $20. And yet, they keep calling this program “absolutely sustainable and everlasting”!
I give this “program” a few more days. They’ll come up with ANY excuse in order to close it for a few days (server break down, database reorganization, what not) and they’ll never come back again…
wca case is a terrible case because i bought 10 position 9/8/12 and the next day they were all at profit of $0.32 each when i did check in the morning of 9/9/12 but to my surprise in the evening all the position where all gone, disappear into thin air.
so what do we call that. A good program indeed except the admin show commitment in there mode of operation.
@Blaine
Purchases don’t pay out a ROI, investments do.
What you are going to do is irrelevant. Right now WCA is a members only investment scheme, paying out a guaranteed 162% ROI out of newly invested member money.
Or in other words, WCA fits the mechanics of a Ponzi scheme.
I’ll guess “the average person” means yourself? 🙂
I didn’t bother to mention “the other partners”, since they’re not specified in any way other than by the number of partners.
The MLM Attorney is Ted (Thayer) Lindauer and you are exactly correct the attorney does not dtermine what is and isn’t a pyramid or ponzi –that is defined by law.
Mr Lindauer is guiding us on exactly what must be done to operate with in the state and federal law and we will contuinue to follow his counsel.
Right now we are selling ads to affilaiates who are setting up retail advertisers in the business community who are not involved in the business as a participant.
WE DO NOT GUARANTEE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT nor do we offer an investment and we most certainly are not a member only program.
That rule belongs in court, I believe? And most people with relatively normal ideas will probably know the difference between a court and a blog? 🙂
The statement was related to Tom’s google-search about a pyramid case, and you have already presented your side of the story there, what’s considered to be a “normal reaction”.
FYI, Tom didn’t inform you about your rights either, the “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say …” rights. 🙂
@Blaine
In a legal sense yes, but Ponzi scheme is the name of a business model, not a law.
A business model isn’t a law, it’s a business model so once again, it is a company’s business model that defines whether or not it’s a Ponzi scheme.
Ad purchases don’t pay out a ROI, investments do.
Ad purchases don’t expire, investments do (mature).
Ad purchases don’t facilitate forced re-investment, investments do.
Sure you do, you guarantee a 162% ROI. Deleting information from the Wealth Creation Alliance FAQ doesn’t change your Ponzi based business model:
Please don’t waste my time using the contact form asking me to call you so you can attempt to “reeducate” me with the “real story”. Heard it all before from every Ponzi admin who gets upset when someone points out the obvious.
If you’ve got anything further to add do it here where everyone can see and comment on it.
Oz, You should do more explanations and examples like the one above.
First, they are so simple and clear that if a person can’t get it at that level then they are beyond rehabilitation.
Second, they are REALLY fun for the rest of us!!! That’s good stuff!
When I write my reviews all the compensation plan information is taken from the company itself. Nothing in that image was absent from the compensation plan section of the initial review.
All that’s changed is Blaine Williams has deleted the information from the WCA website after the review went live pointing out that Wealth Creation Alliance is a Ponzi scheme.
Did everyone catch Blaine Williams comment “WE DO NOT GUARANTEE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT”, oops Mr. Williams, did you say “INVESTMENT”, of course you did, this is a ponzi scheme, period. Of course you will not “guarantee”, you will line YOUR pockets as you do in every company.
Lets chat for a moment. You went into Xowii because you were offered 15,000 dollars to do so and your “program” was NOT working in Monavie anymore, people could not afford to purchase the “garage qualified” amount of product you were “coaching” them to do but hey, it got YOU to your rank quick and YOU lined your pockets, so nice or you Blaine.
Oh, now lets talk Xowii, you get a huge lump some to go over, promise people you will “build their downline for them”, with a little help on thier part, give me your money. Hey but you are known for “purchasing people”. Then of course, after 2 weeks you are GONE, never putting one person under ANYONE. Yes, we call that lies, get used to that name.
Then you pitch yourself to the CEO of NuVia3, big pitch at that, pushing the Monavie title which was earned off everyone elses efforts but hey, you lined your pockets well. The owner takes the bait but hey, you must move on, not enough money in that for you.
Well Well, you land at Beyond Organic, good “Christian” company for ya. Oh, guess what, you were terminated, yes, terminated. For what you probably ask yourself, for ripping off your downline. “Hey, give me $500 dollars and I will put a leader under you”. Oh no, well, another broken promise.
After numerous requests to get our money back you decide to not give us our money back, which totalled thousands of dollars, you decide to “add another company to our tribe5 community”, requesting that we all purchase $499.00 packages, hey, but that works for you right, lines your pockets.
Good thing you “pitched yourself” well enough, you get a top spot, take all the people from Beyond Organic to this new company and whoohoooo, you hit the jackpot. Oh no, oops, you forgot to pay all those other people in the last “investment”, oh, wait, maybe you should change that name to “co-op”, that sounds better.
Oops, Beyond Organic starts getting complaints that you did not pay people back, never placed anyone under anyone and oh no, terminated for illegal activity.
When you state people better get their records straight, you are right Blaine, lets start with you. You are a liar, a cheat, a deceptive individual who needs to be put behind bars, your day is coming.
The sucky part is this is all being done in the name of Jesus but hey, I think I read sometime that there are wolves in sheeps clothing. I do not know how you lay your head down at night, ripping off so many people.
Lets start by giving back all of us that lost money with you BEFORE you start another deal and take peoples money again.
If only it were that simple to get people to grasp the obvious.
Hang around anti-scam sites long enough and all you see is the same tired arguments from scammers and their followers over and over again.
Funny/sad thing is that all the ones that critics label as blatant ponzis end up collapsing or getting shut down, but the people in the new ones always insist that their new ponzi is somehow different from the previous ones.
Oh No Blaine, you better get off here and get over to your wealth creation facebook page, looks like there is trouble at home.
Oh wait, you deleted all the negative posts a couple days ago, you will get rid of all these as well, after all, you need to make some money before this gets shut down.
Everyone reading these posts, get away from this man, he is a thief, been at this for YEARS.
Lots of Ponzis claim it was reviewed by Lindauer:
http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=118530
Don’t believe it until you see proof, and even then, don’t believe it until you see the explanation.
Gerald Nehra now has reviewed TWO companies for Ponzi (Ad Surf Daily, and now Zeek Rewards), and both turned out to be Ponzis.
All the more reason for me to classify all those same tired arguments and put them on my blog so we can refer to them. 🙂
It’s “No True Scotsman” applied over and over. That one wasn’t a “real” opportunity, this one is!
I received a letter today from someone who used to be in Zeek. Here’s the final paragraph of her letter:
Ok. If this is NOT a Ponzi scheme as they claim, why is she urging people NOT to recruit after the first few months? Answer, Ponzi scheme.
Anyone who gets involved with Wealth Creation Alliance is stupid. In the extreme.
The only thing I should have done was google searched Blaine Williams a few years back and as soon as Fresno came up, that would have been enough to not trust the man.
At this point, we just want our money back. Come on Blaine, are you not going to respond to me, did I get a little too close for comfort. Reality, you know what you have done to so many people and now you run and hide.
You remind me of bullies on a playground. You sure talk the big talk, pull people in with your charasmatic Jesus talk, puff up those shoulders when truth comes out, and then run.
If you want to run with the big boys “Coach” then grow up and act like a man.
Civil conspiracy? RICO? or both
Recieved this via email today:
Usually Ponzis at least go a few months before “restarting”, that was quick.
Long term companies do not create a company with names already in use. A simple google search would have done the trick however your expert Attorney would have gone over this with you, this is business 101.
The real truth is that you have been caught, and this has gone viral so you must do something QUICK. You have now taken up another name, World Consumer Advocates = SCAM.
Blaine William, you continue to use the Lord and the fact that you have 5 children, one pastor son and a grand child yet I am sure non of them realize you have scammed so many hard working, christian families out of thousands of dollars in the name of God.
This made me sick to read today. I have a good friend who gave Blaine Williams thousands of dollars for what he called a co-op a year ago. She trusted Blaine because he was a strong Christian man, or she thought by his words.
She never got a penny back and he never fulfilled the co-op. He went on to another company and promised her he would fulfill the co-op in the other company, he never did, and now he is the owner of this company?, yet another company.
He has not contacted her at all and has not given her the money back. He took her money and she is a beautiful woman with a huge heart. He is a liar. She found out he has done this to several people, all who trusted him because he claims to be a strong christian man.
This is wrong, someone needs to stop this man.
We should all collect contact info on one another and file a class action lawsuit against him. I know my girl was devastated by this man, it was my money but her heart.
Yes, Susan, “someone needs to stop this man”
I too have been a victim of the “silver tongued” Blaine Williams. He has the talent of inspiring belief in the non-existent hope he so readily offers.
He uses God, Family and Country to attract those of good moral character and faith, when his very actions are cloaked in lies and deception.
I know of three people personally that he has taken thousand of dollars from. The hurt caused by this man has been the source of many tears.
He can make all the claims he wants, but remember, “by their fruit you will recognize them.”
Can any one tell when are they going to set right WCA website it is going carzy now they should totally shut down for proper maintenance.
Hi, I joined WCA first week in Sept ,2012 and I bought 175 units of $2 advertising totaling $350. A few days later, I found I could no
longer log in to member area. I sent several mails to them that I can’t login. They never replied any. I became suspicious. I was so scared that I may have joined a wrong program.
Just before the site went on that funny maintenance, I requested to withdraw my earnings. The funds never made it to my Payza account.
Two days ago, I was able to log in and noticed my earnings balance dropped considerably. I tried to withdraw and they said that part of the site is under maintenance. Today same thing. I hope I will not loose my $350 I started with.
I googled the site today and saw all these posts. We can all come together and take action against this guy. I cannot afford to loose my funds!
Frankly, any one who put money in HYIP (i.e. small Internet Ponzi schemes) should be prepared to lose all of it when the owner skips town.
@Joyous
About a month ago, you could have substituted “WCA” with “Zeek” and “advertising” with “bids” and it would be a perfect example of what we were seeing with people complaining about Zeek Rewards.
Why don’t all of you stop complaining about Blaine and do something about the situation??????
You must not be too serious about shutting him down or you already would have contacted the Securities and Exchange Commission…He is still blowing and going hard, collecting or should I say scamming people out of their money.
It is a shame that all of these poor innocent new comers are being taken advantage of and don’t have the slightest clue who this man is or what he has done to hundreds of people.
And yes it is always about “God” with all of his presentations. Pretty sad!
Unfortunately, real life isn’t like TV where a crime can be committed, investigated, prosecuted and a conviction achieved in 40 minutes plus advertising time.
The last time I looked, the S.E.C. had around 3,500 active staff to service a U.S. population of 310+million.
As the saying goes, “all you can do is all you can do”
So start complaining. AG’s office usually needs about 20 complaints to start an investigation, according to MLM Watchdog Rod Cook.
I am on it, I contacted the AG and at this point I believe we all need to pull together and go after Blaine Williams with a class action lawsuit.
Send your letters to the address below. In detail explain the illegal business dealings with Blaine Williams.
For those who are just encountering Blaine Williams through “WCA”, original name “World Creation Alliance”, new name “World Consumer Alliance”, explain in details your experience with this ponzi scheme.
Together we can shut this guy down.
State of California Department of Justice
Attorney General – Kamala D. Harris
Attn: Victims of Crime Unit
P.O. Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
What did this guy do?
He has taken money from people for years, dating back to 1999 with the Fresno 4 Ponzi Scheme and has continued to this date.
Blaine uses God, Family & the “American Dream” to get his foot in the door and once in he charasmatically persuades a person to buy into, another words, give him money, towards his “movement”. Once you take the bait you lose everything.
He does not pay you back but what he does do a good job at is putting you off while he lifts you up with his smooth talk. He calls himself “Coach” and claims he has “your best interest at hand” yet he never comes through on his commitments.
Once we started investigating Blaine Williams we found that he has done this for years. Many well intended families have been taken advantage of.
Hey, wait to shut him down, sorry about people in the past, that lost money, business is risky, and doesn’t always make money as promised, but I’m making money with WCA, in my hand, not just on paper.
You want to complain about the past, fine, but dont be bashing WCA unless you have the facts.
Yes, they had some problems with thier site, but its back, operating, and just pulled another $200 out, so, get it right!
Yeah… cuz paying out means it’s not a Ponzi scheme and totally negates the business model right?
Fail.
I just looked at there new site and it looks like the comp. Plan was changed.no mention of the roi.
“Hey, wait to shut him down” really Shawn. This is not about risky business, this is about a con man, nothing more, nothing less. Blaine Williams is a con man.
They no longer show forced reinvestment or 3.25 return on 2.00
Yeah… but they still pay it.
“We don’t talk about that” isn’t the same as “we don’t pay out a $3.25 ROI on every $2 invested with us”.
The business model is what’s important, not what the company does or doesn’t mention.
I agree with you oz. I just wanted to let you know what they did.
I know a zeekhead who was trying to borrow 10k to invest in this bs. He just lost 14k with zeek now this .i asked him how old he was and he said when. I said when your brain left you.
At the beginning the speed in buying positions was very good people were repurchsing every 10 minutes and good money was being made. We all now know that the script was bought from your yourfreeworld.com very cheap with the ability to change the speed of the way it runs via cron job.
It seems at the beginning when the speed was very good, people rushed to promote and repurchase and now it is crawling, no doubt to fill the pockets of these crooks now that 70.000 have signed up, so now they are pocketing most of the cash.
gonads, sorry to hear of your experience but this is typical for Blaine Williams. He is a con man and will take people for everything they have. He is filling his pockets and no doubt in the name of JESUS.
I would report this to the State of California Department of Justice:
Attorney General – Kamala D. Harris
Attn: Victims of Crime Unit
P.O. Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
Tom before complaining I think you should invest your own money wait for the scheme to drop out then file the complaint.
Your complaint may not stand unless you are an aggrieved party and have the details of how you were conned.
Muldic, we were conned previously and that is what we filed on.
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
I prefer the Klingon version:
Yes I as well put money into wca only 100usd I steer clear of MLM in general but I figured it would be like a blackjack bet-if I lose wont lose much sleep if it earns and get the money back cool.
Well here is a complaint I can’t see anyone making yet though it is not an isolated incident. While the returns have been about 5% daily their whole pitch is that this is a refferal program and you earn commission based on refferals.
Well why won’t you explain Paul or Blain why NOBODIES refferal pages direct to refferrals? They give you a refferal URL and if someone buys in they are your refferal…well for 3 weeks this refferal url brings people to the site but they sign up directly and you as a sponsor don’t get shit.
The only people able to get refferals are those at the very start that signed up and yet being able to reffer people and get a commission is 90% of the pitch. Daily emails go unresponded to and its becoming increasingly clear that there is NO refferal program though its claimed there is!
Only the first few people obviously involved with the head schemers are able to actually refer people thats why the search engines are littered with a few people that can earn a refferal.
If I give someone my refferal url there site comes up but people are misled into thingking they are signing up under a friend when really they just take the signup as their own. I don’t mislead anyone I just suggested to friends that its obviously a scheme but maybe worth taking a gamble on for fun.
Knowing more about the crooks in charge I regret having aided them at all. Tell me Paul-or Blaine why do you claim that as a member you can earn a refferal bonus when it is clear that nobody in the last 3 weeks or so is able to.
Why wont any of your support emails send a single response. You are a fraud, a crook, and I say this as someone who is earning off my adds daily.
Strangely enough you would think that doubling the number of add blocks would double your daily earnings but in doing so I have made the same or less since doubling the number of add blocks. I want an explanation for your claim that a member can refer someone but it is clearly not the case.
I know one person who is able to reffer people and his account was set up right away by someone who is intimately involved with the operators. Not a single account other than that has a workable refferal URL and though you provide one you just take the signups for yourself and steal all the refferals.
I’m willing to join in a class action lawsuit based on this fact alone. Anyone interested who is experiencing the same reply and I will organize it. Or else Paul or Blaine maybe you could explain why this is before I smear you on every site and every forum.
I have a person who will set up an account and will post the refferal URL for all to see for themselves how they dont direct to the sponsor. And don’t worrry I can write a damn good meta-tag so it will be clear to anybody who searches WCA since now all a search will turn up is their self serving BS.
I will also set up a google addwords account and outbid any keyword you and your cronies use, yahoo as well. Anybody else feel free to do the same.
Have your referrals clear their cookies
100% Ponzi Scam, for all those that says ” have faith in the company ” , you are just dumb, you have not lost any money yet in a Ponzi Scam before, or Lost your Life savings in it, I’ve lost $10,000 in Zeek Rewards, all because i’ve trusted my upline sponsor who said ” believe the company, it will be around for the next 5 years…
ask yourself this question, where is the money being paid out coming from? affiliates say it’s from advertising, i ask 2nd question, who are paying for those advertising packages? no one can answer that question.
i hope one day the company shuts down quick so affiliates who put money in can one day feel the pain of the loss of $$$, the Loss of Time and the loss of friends… Good Luck
Plus…
This guy IS not registered or licensed to do business in any of the countries he is taking money from… This is a Blatent Ponzi Scheme and the more people that file complaints and call the AG … the quikcer this guy is going to go down and the least amount of people are goint to get hurt….
Ads of NO KIND are legit products according to Network Marketing Law !!! Get this Guy Convicted — He takes money from co-ops and pockets the money … and uses the Bible to manipulate ….