Negotiations between Charles Scoville and the Traffic Monsoon Receiver have begun, with the latest filing from the Receiver requesting permission to fund Scoville’s return to the US.
Ongoing discussions between Scoville, the SEC and the Traffic Monsoon Receiver have led the two former parties to conclude that ‘it would be beneficial to have Scoville voluntarily return to the United States‘.
Upon bringing up Scoville’s voluntary return to the US however, the SEC and Receiver were told Scoville ‘does not have the money to do so‘.
An August 2nd filing by the Receiver has requested permission to fund Scoville’s return to the US (including that of his son and wife).
Specifically, the Receiver has requested permission to
pay actual, necessary and reasonable costs associated with bringing Scoville back to Utah, as well as certain of his living expenses.
It may also be necessary to pay for Scoville’s 11-year old son to return with him given his minor status and the fact that his son’s mother lives in Utah.
Finally, the Receiver is considering proposing an agreement under which the estate would pay for Scoville’s spouse to return with him if she agrees to cooperate with the Receiver, including being deposed while she is in Utah.
Why the Receiver is wants to depose Scoville’s wife is unclear.
At this time, the Receiver does know the exact amount that will be required for travel expense inasmuch as schedules need to be consulted, and agreements related to cooperation need to be obtained.
No dollar amount has been requested at this time, with the Receiver instead asking for permission to “determine the amounts at issue”.
Scoville has said that his main purpose for returning to Utah will be to attempt to work out a settlement.
One point of contention is Scoville’s hiring of an attorney, which the Receiver suggests would not be paid for by Traffic Monsoon victims.
Just prior to the filing of this Motion, the Receiver was notified that Scoville may retain counsel in this matter.
If counsel is retained, the disbursements requested in this Motion may be reconsidered.
In a Facebook post published a few hours ago, Scoville represented that he had since obtained counsel:
The Receiver’s motion is currently before the court and awaiting a decision.
Stay tuned…
Update 4th August 2016 – The Receiver’s motion has been granted. Judge Parrish has ordered the Receiver file a report outline any payments disbursed by September 15th.
the receiver is willing to pay for scoville’s return to the US, because scoville must have represented that he had no money and was willing to cooperate.
however if scoville retains counsel, that means he has money, and so the receiver may reconsider paying for scoville’s travel to the US.
yesterday someone had commented on scoville’s FB page, that he was collecting funds from affiliates to hire an attorney.
if he has an attorney now, i’m sure he will be advised not to return to the US. his wife and son are with him, he has no pressing need to return to the US.
scoville’s latest post about retaining an attorney, has received some harsh comments from affiliates:
I think something might be up with his wife. Perhaps some Traffic Monsoon funds are in her name, which the Receiver is trying to secure.
I have no basis for this other than the Receiver being eager to depose the wife and the fact that she wasn’t included in the TRO.
so he’s living on the street there is he? he has to have some coin to be surviving. especially with a kid in tow. wonder what happened to the mother’s rights to see him.
Oops, I missed the flight.
Sorry, can’t fly today, ear infection.
Kwanzaa!
Not flying to the west until this zika problem is figured out.
Charles wants his sheeple to believe they are negotiating the restructure of Traffic Monsoon.
What do you guys think they are really discussing?
Right now, i think they’re just gathering as much information from him and inadvertent confession as possible. Once they get him to the states they’ll probably indict him.
scoville’s top affiliates, many of whom are seasoned ponzi masters themselves, have been very quick to move on, after making some sympathy statements about how TM was all legit and how the SEC has got it wrong.
frank colabro jr, a TM top honcho has already announced his ‘next big thing’. he has recorded a video showcasing his house and cars while he invites people to join him in this ‘next big thing’. the money for that house and those cars, comes from the TM net losers who may barely get back a fraction of their investments from the receiver. but colabro jr’s face is lit up with pride at his possessions, he has no guilt at all.
jose nunes, who just a couple of days ago posted a lengthy video in support of scoville, has announced today that TM is gone, and it’s time to ‘move on’. he says scoville is the CEO, and TM is his problem to resolve, and tells his sheeple – guys its time to move on.
i mean, in just 3/4 days scoville’s top lieutenants are running out on him! till they were making big bucks with scoville, he was their BFF. today suddenly, TM is scoville’s problem to resolve and its time to move on!
but i guess there’s no point expecting ponzi players to show any ‘character’. they’re all lying cheating sleazy excuses for human beings who would shoot each other for a few dollars. disgraceful.
It would appear she was at least a member:
realscam.com/f8/traffic-monsoon-better-than-maps-trusted-admin-charles-scoville-4070/index151.html#post101750
and I went back in that thread to around the time of the May interview and right after that is when both of them scrubbed their facebooks of anything related to a ‘marriage’.
AS this seems to be typical what motivates guys like Scoville, Burks and Merrill to front these schemes. They take all the heat while their lieutentants move on to the next thing. Whose really in charge?
jail the freaking scum! Let him learn not to scam people
Surely his wife could pay their airfares. She did after all claim she was a six figure earner in Traffic Monsoon.
Of course she could, just as Charles could easily take out a loan on his $500K Flat to pay his attorney and airfare.
But why if he has sycophant members willing to cough up money for his faux I’m a pauper claim to pay his attorney, and can get the Receiver to pay his way back to the U.S.?
He’s a pauper my assets. Want to see how fast he could come up with the cash to pay the airfare and attorney? Toss his arse in jail in the UK and he would find the money in a heartbeat.
Article updated with news of the Receiver’s motion being granted.
william bryant is a TM affiliate who wrote a letter to the utah court judge, pleading that TM was legit and that the SEC should be spanked properly for its arbitrary attack on a legit business.
his letter was very ‘wordy’ and didn’t make much sense at all, and read like a psuedo intellectual attempt to impress.
yesterday, scoville posted that writing letters to the judge wouldn’t help as that was not how the system worked.
not to be fazed, bryant continues to wield his ‘wordy’ sword against the powers that be. 7 hrs ago, he posted some more ‘wordy’ words on FB:
hmmm, um, ya, er, what??
The man is a visionary. Way ahead of his time. Or perhaps he just fell out of his tree.
sharon james, a TM affiliate, claims that scoville wrote this message on her skype group:
so, is scoville going to take this to court or settle? who is this lawyer scoville has engaged?
Exactly how much money have you put into this?
I suspect you are only talking to people that will tell you what you want to hear. It is plain you don’t want to know the truth at all!
All ponzi schemes die. Learn to live with that and move on.
Name one SEC Ponzi TRO that was dismissed. Anyone?
Unfortunately, I have $40,000 U.S.D. wrapped up in this. Yes I knew it was not “classified” as an investment. However, the fact is that it is sold as an “INVESTMENT” that pays a crazy percentage.
What I can not understand is this………. Please tell me if this is true.
Total Assetts Available for Immediate Payment = 270 Million
Total Cash Balance Which Can be Withdrawn = 801 Million.
If this is true then I see that the company is in the Red about 530 Million.
The bottom line. IF every member was ALLOWED (becouse they have a minimum) to withdraw their entire cash balance RIGHT NOW… Would they be able to with the current amount that Charles has .s.. Lets assume that all of the Cash that Charles has is available….
This smells like a WET FART……or shall I say a SHART!!!
Charles has been taking money from traffic monsoon members to pay for a lawyer. And also Sharon James is a serial scammer.
She was involved in banner brokers and zeek rewards and was conning people right up till the very end. Pure evil that one.
first, name one real lawyer – much less plural – that’s going to give free legal advice since he is claiming poverty.
frank colabro has another video out today asking people to join his new pyramid scheme.
he does not even ‘pretend’ to be selling a product or service. it’s clearly – invest, recruit, earn, and no apologies.
he tells ‘crybabies’ who complain about not having money to invest, to go sell something. sell your ‘dining table’, your ‘fridge’, your ‘xbox’ etc, cause its all junk. sell your household belongings and live in an empty house for an year or so, and then be rich like colabro jr !!
while the SEC is taking down TM and scoville, it must also pursue top TM affiliates like colabro, ernie ganz etc, and snatch back all their stolen money. get these people to sign that they wont participate in ponzi/pyramid schemes again, so that they can be held in contempt if they do it again.
Which country is Scoville in right now?
UK. Might be flying back to the US in the next week.
Big history lesson here. AdSurfDaily even called its payouts “rebates.”
After the 2008 seizure by the U.S. Secret Service, the ASD cheerleaders spent months arguing that ASD was lawful because auto manufacturers offer rebates. And if rebates are lawful with cars, they’re lawful with “advertising.”
The ASDers supplemented their arguments by claiming ASD never guaranteed payouts. Scoville and some TMers are doing the same thing EIGHT years after ASD and FOUR years after Andy Bowdoin went to prison.
Whether car rebates or rebates in general are lawful is immaterial to the issue of whether TM was conducting an offering fraud and selling unregistered securities to unaccredited investors.
Moreover, TM necessarily relied on banks and payment vendors while making an absurd proposition to participants.
Not one of those banks/vendors could advertise the same absurd proposition. Their regulators would be on them instantly and the the FBI/Secret Service would be putting police tape around their structures to mark off the crime scene.
It’s also true that Andy Bowdoin had the TM-like delusion of starting his own bank or payment processor. His was going to be in South America.
TM’s narrative is ASD’s narrative eight years after the fact.
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He has a few TM related YouTube videos. I tried listening to one the other day, The two or so minutes I was able to last were extremely painful.
Seems like an “unskilled and unaware of it” type of guy.
Wouldn’t surprise me if at some point he starts raving on about the court not having jurisdiction, “Admiralty Law”, etc.
If Charles did write this, it’s odd that he didn’t include any identifying information, e.g., case number, jurisdiction, etc. for:
and
so that his adherents could verify these for themselves and use the information to respond to “haters” and the like.
I mean you put $40,000 in or “earned” it? Just to be clear on this.
I don’t know people that hand that kind of money to a website anywhere.
hi. Please Is there anything new about TM.
Do you really Charles will win the case and the site returns to work?
The penny is starting to drop, latest from Scoville:
Maybe a week or so more and he’ll get that offering a $55 ROI on a $50 deposit makes it an investment. Paying the $55 from newly invested funds makes it a Ponzi scheme.
And that SEC meeting apparently didn’t go well (for Scoville):
Better drop the facade and acknowledge $50 in, $55 out is an investment soon or you’re going to get railed in court son.
[1] NO
[2] NO
So is it turns out that the system is a Ponzi.
YES
“Turns out”?
Traffic Monsoon was a Ponzi scheme the moment it started using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors (day 1).
And what is the solution now in your mind
well TM is shut down and dead, the solution for you investors is :
[1] apply for restitution from the receiver whenever it is announced. however, you may get back only a fraction of your investment.
[2] never invest in scammy schemes again.
thank you very much.
If it is truly profit sharing then why were the profits ALWAYS the same each and every day, every month, etc. This clearly is what 3.3 Million subscribers were calculating. Therefore how is it not an investment when you can calucate 5 dollars will be earned over 60 days.
Charles better get educated fast because the judge will have no sympathy for an intelligent soul playing STUPID…
This stinks like an inflammed Hemorroid Bleeding FART that is very wet and now very sloppy.
OUCH!!!
it appears the TM is not working can you confirm its status.
Many thanks,
alan
A temporary restraining order was issued by a court order following a complaint filed by the Securities Exchange Commission, with a receiver appointed and all assets of both Charles Scoville and Traffic Monsoon frozen pending a preliminary injunction hearing on September 23
As reported on BehindMLM here:
NOLINK: behindmlm.com/companies/herbalife/ftc-describes-herbalife-as-a-pyramid-scheme-refuses-to-label/#comment-364810
NO LINK: behindmlm.com/companies/traffic-monsoon/charles-scoville-loses-control-of-traffic-monsoon-receiver-appointed/
NOLINK: behindmlm.com/companies/traffic-monsoon/traffic-monsoon-preliminary-injunction-hearing-rescheduled-for-23-sep/
Looks like the Receiver has taken possession of the Traffic Monsoon domain in the past few hours.
Oz, any filing from Receiver regarding has ordered shutdown of site?
As ever, Scoville tries to hide the truth on behalf of a DDOS attack (quite naughty, as site is completely useless now). It would be very useful to open eyes to get an official document regarding this point, thanks a lot in advance
Nothing official, but we were expecting the Receiver to take control of the site sometime this week.
The Receiver doesn’t need Scoville for that, she can go straight to the domain registrar and hosting company.
scoville posted something about a DDOS attack but removed that post later.
the traffic monsoon website cannot be reached:
if the receiver has taken control, shouldn’t there be a message saying that?
i dont know how this stuff works, but if scoville had servers in the US and also the UK, can the receiver take control?
btw, someone has coined a nice name for scoville – ‘scumville’. very apt, i say! 🙂
so, scumville has admitted the website is under the control of the receiver:
Message from Charles Scoville [an hour back]
gone. finis. ta ta.
“All assets of mine and the company (registered to only him)”
If people are going to defend the business model i.e., not an investment, they confirm that the money, all the money, belongs to Charles. It is no longer their money because they bought a service from him.
Do these people even realize what they are saying?
He himself says “assets of HIS”.
Hello??!!!!!
This was one of the irresolvable conundrums of AdSurfDaily. To curry favor with the troops, Andy Bowdoin told them the seized money belonged to them. But he told the judge it belonged to HIM.
He more or less had to tell the judge that because he was using a “rebates aren’t guaranteed” defense, meaning his members had nothing to complain about because he was selling only “advertising.”
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What’s really hilarious is this proves beyond any doubt that Traffic Monsoon is a clone of Ad Surf Daily… Scoville even recycled the excuses.
Let’s see if Scoville joins a few scams in the next couple months to make the repeating history complete.
I think Charles should join MAP under Simon Stepsys, and he would have tons of money to pay for his attorney and fly everyone first class to the U.S. to meet with the SEC.
I mean after all adpacks and clicking just 10 ads per day (see he would save 40 clicks if he joined MAP) he would become a millionaire in no time with Simon’s great leadership.
Oh how wonderful, I hear the fat lady singing in the distance…
The overture is over and she is ready to take center stage. She is already warmed up and ready to sing her aria.
Closed entrance to the site. What news? Why is there no treatment Charles.
It should though be here to report to its partners. Silence is not good. We live long in the hope of justice. All partners should be aware of.
I can not understand how Charles does not have money? Where it is their case?
Site go byebye, belongs to court-appointed Receiver now.
I think we’re long past the point of treating Charles’ thievery.
In the event of a regulatory lawsuit, money you obtain via fraud isn’t yours for long.
Utah as I understand it.
Question: There are many businesses like Trafficmonsoon, are they also going to be caught or facing lawsuit?
thanks.
Fixed the above for you.
IMHO, most will collapse and, as Oz often says, the admin will have taken a runner with the remaining funds long before they attract regulator attention.
Either way, most
suckersmembers will end up losing.But as Ponzi pimps often tell us, everyone knows these are a game anyway, so no harm, no foul … right?
There is always that possibility.
@Najmul
You’d have to ask the SEC.
when paypal released TM’s funds in july, charles scoville transferred the money from the TM business account in chase bank to his personal account.
because he transferred the money to his personal account, his affiliates have been raising questions about his motives.
scoville explained that he had moved the money to his personal account as several fake checks were in circulation, and he wanted to protect the funds from getting depleted.
yesterday scoville has published a purported dialogue between himself and a representative at chase bank called ryan. this dialogue ‘establishes’ that fake checks were indeed circulating and this is why scoville transferred te funds to his personal account as a temporary solution.
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however, there is no way to verify whether this dialogue is real or just made up by scoville.
affiliates have been questioning scoville’s intent for close to a fortnight now, so what took him so long to publish this short dialogue?
…unless this dialogue has been ‘manufactured’ by scoville’s scammy imaginative mind…??
I think the dialogue is real. The question is who passed the fraudulent checks.
Where would the fake checks be from? There are no such thing as Paypal “checks”. Any “fake checks” that can hurt TM would have to be from Scovie’s own checking accounts.
Unless he meant he had DEPOSITED fake checks? But how would he have transferred the funds INTO Paypal with fake checks, and how does transfer to personal account avoid that?
It’s just bull**** excuse.
Paypal does not send checks unless Scovie approves them (and pay $1.50 per check). And you can’t deposit a check into PayPal as of 2014.
Thus, any “fake checks” he’s mumbling would not involve Paypal at all. There is no excuse for him to move the money unless he’s scared that Paypal will freeze him again.
why do you think it’s real? there’s nothing in the screenshot of that chat scoville has posted, that proves he was really chatting with someone at chase bank.
also, though i’m not an expert in banking, if a clients account had millions of dollars in it, and this account was under threat by fake checks, would a bank only try to ‘chat’ with the client ‘informally’ to inform him and to try to resolve the matter?
i would think the bank would email the client, with proper details of the ‘fake checks’, and keep a proper record of the events, to protect themselves from any problems or claims in the future.
the bank could then ‘also’ contact the client at a ‘personal’ level as the scoville/ryan chat demonstrates.
so, unless scoville can ‘prove’ he was actually chatting with someone over at chase, and/or show an email, i wont believe his BS. he is a habitual liar as it is.
If and a big if, there was fake checks then why not clear the business account out completely …. why only transfer 21m to your personal account and leave over 2m in the business account, these figures are in the sec docs, also if the bank knew fake checks were about they would not process them…..
After reading the sec docs why do people still think he is helping them etc, he blatantly lied about the PayPal freeze being lifted, and lied about a lot of other things but people still believe ….
Back in February, it was announced on the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums following the Paypal freeze:
“A TM bank account has been opened up and you can wire funds directly using the following details.
SWIFT CODE: XXXXXXXX
NAME OF BANK: JP Morgan Chase Bank”
Where the so called fraudulent cheques came from is anyones’ guess. I would be surprised if JP Morgan Chase didn’t file Suspicious Activity Reports as Paypal did.
While Scovilles’ explanation probably contains elements of what transpired at the time, it is unlikely to be the whole truth.
I reached a similar conclusion, but note that a fraudulent check does not have to be “fake” in the sense that is counterfeit or even a forgery.
Relying exclusively on the bank representative’s characterization, the checks were ” clearly fraudulent.” There are numerous reasons a check (even when written by the account holder) can be deemed fraudulent….like for example, when a person writes checks on an account that he/she intends to close or deplete in order to deny payment to creditors.
Based on the chat record presented it seems that the bank rep wanted to see Scoville in the bank personally and soon. In fact he seemed rather insistent. This seems likely to be true.
Previously, Scoville described his frustrations and the exorbitant costs of consultants, helpers and facilitators that he tried to use in Dubai and the UK. Did he pay any of them with checks drawn on TM’s Chase business account?
I feel the same way. The information presented is selective.
Potential cause… Scovie thinks the Feds can only freeze TM account and not his personal account. He didn’t realize SEC can freeze EVERYTHING. Or maybe he’s hoping that SEC wouldn’t find it?
you mean as real as the vetting of his previous scam by Utah authorities and them allegedly giving the OK?
absolutely. that is the worst script I’ve read yet. He had a bank account under the business in Dubai allegedly. That’s where business funds should have gone.
He knows the only reason the funds were released is the SEC wanted to see what he was going to do with them and he did just as they suspected.
…somewhere between Superman and Halloween on the realness scale.