OneCoin Swedish police investigation resumed on March 17th
Late last week OneCoin published a press-release claiming Swedish police had closed their investigation into OneLife. ‘
Citing an unsourced “police statement”, OneCoin claimed police had “indicated”
there was no basis upon which to continue the investigation as there was no reason to believe that an offense had been committed.
The Police confirmed its decision to the Gaming Authority on March 1st 2017.
Ignoring OneCoin’s Ponzi business model, the recent regulatory ban in Italy, monthly bank account closures throughout 2016 and regulatory warnings from over a dozen countries, OneCoin affiliates were quick to cite the closure of the investigation as proof of legitimacy.
Ted Nuyten dutifully reprinted the OneCoin press-release (no coverage about the regulatory warnings or Italy ban though), and OneCoin or its affiliates have since paid the usual press-release spammers to flood the internet with news of the closure.
With nothing to go on other than OneCoin’s own March 16th press-release, I chose to wait for something official to surface before publishing anything.
Turns out that was the right decision, because now it appears Swedish police have reopened the investigation.
The details surrounding the purported “We have closed the investigation” non-public announcement from the Swedish police are murky.
On the surface it made little sense, as OneCoin quite obviously operates as a Ponzi scheme. Any competent regulatory body can examine the flow of money and readily identify newly invested funds flow in and are used to pay off existing investors.
The pyramid layer on top of that is designed to prevent the flow of new investment from drying up.
Rather what we’ve seen from European authorities (Italy is the exception), is an acknowledgement that what they can do is pretty limited. OneCoin operates out of Bulgaria, but even then the flow of money takes place through murky shell companies tied to who knows what.
To date Bulgarian authorities have given no public indication that they are concerned about Ponzi fraud, leaving regulators in other EU countries with not much to go on.
Again with Italy being the exception (and only recently), continued warnings are pretty much all we’ve seen.
It didn’t take long after OneCoin claimed the Swedish police investigation had been closed, for cracks in the story to start appearing.
A BehindMLM reader contacted the Swedish Gaming Board and did receive confirmation that the investigation had been closed. As of March 17th, the Gaming Board were unaware as to why this decision had been made.
In the meantime attempts to contact the police officer in charge went unanswered, which was also strange.
Our next bit of information came from the Swedish Gaming Board, by way of a status report on their investigation into OneCoin.
Following their own preliminary investigation, in early 2016 the Swedish Gaming Board concluded OneCoin was a pyramid scheme. The case was referred to police for further investigation.
As of March 17th, Swedish police were seeking assistance with what was deemed an “ongoing investigation”. That same day the police made a formal decision to reopen their investigation.
Why it was closed in the first place remains a mystery. Ditto what prompted its reopening.
Citing a “police source”, yesterday Norwegian journalist Carl Dahl confirmed the investigation had been reopened.
Today what appears to be a police case status report again confirms that on March 17th the case was resumed.
Pending any further updates, that’s currently where we’re at.
Here is translated commentary on the case, posted in the comments section of BusinessForHome website (soon to be deleted, so as not to jeapordize Ted Nyuten’s monthly paycheck):
translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fonecoin.forumprofi.de%2FThread-wie-onecoin-mit-thema-schweden-seine-mitglieder-BELÜGT&edit-text
Maybe it’s a department shift? From regular fraud to transnational / economic crimes?
Could be but then why the apparent lag between announcements?
In short terms the GB was not satisfied with policeresult so they appealed the closing.
Åklagare=Prosecutor. they also requested assistance for the inspector in question. so hopefully its an ass. with knowledge about ponzis and crypto.
ill haunt this police….
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on march 16th, onecoin’s press release said:
where is this police statement? if indeed the police made such a statement, is it possible that the swedish gaming authority was not aware that ‘there was no basis upon which to continue the investigation as there was no reason to believe that an offense had been committed’?
on march 10th, the norwegian lawyer of onecoin ‘per danielsen’ had emailed the gaming authority asking them to rectify their previous stand that onecoin was suspected of lottery fraud, as the swedish police had now stopped the onecoin investigation.
on march 13th, marcus aronsson of the swedish gaming board replied that though they had received information that the police had halted the investigation, they had still not received information about the Reason the investigation was halted, and hence could not make any final pronouncement about onecoin as desired by per danielsen.
so, as of march 13th, onecoin KNEW that the gaming board had not reached a final conclusion about onecoin and had no confirmation from the police that there was no basis for the investigation as no offence was committed.
yet, on march 16th onecoin published a release stating that – ‘The Police statement indicated that there was no basis upon which to continue the investigation as there was no reason to believe that an offense had been committed’.
does onecoin mean to say that the swedish police had informed them of the Reason they halted investigations, but had not yet informed the gaming board?
or did onecoin ‘invent’ the Reason all by themselves, inspite of the gaming board clarifying on march 13th itself, that the police had not yet provided the Reason why the investigation was halted?
also, when the gaming board had clarified on march 13th itself that they were not ready to pronounce final conclusions about the onecoin case, why did onecoin go ahead and publish on march 16th a statement that ‘implied’ that the swedish investigation was concluded in their favor?
It’s real simple why OneCoin did their press release. This is OneCoin we are talking about. They are liars, criminals and thieves. I would have been more surprised if they hadn’t tried to make the claim they were vindicated with the investigation being closed.
They had to get a positive spin on a story to take away what happened in Italy. They want to totally ignore Italy and keep their members from thinking it was more than just 3 rogue promoters that got in trouble with the authorities.
I had a OneCoin member tell me that just yesterday. He refused to believe me that they were kicked totally out of Italy.
Word choice is very important to scammers. Onecoin used the word “indicated” as they knew that everything beyond that word doesn’t have to be true. It’s all about interpretation after that point.
They could just say that it was indicated due to the fact that the investigation was closed. Why else would the police close the investigation if what Onecoin stated wasn’t true?
In the end I think something fishy was going on. I’ve never known OneCoin to actually follow up on an investigation. Why in this case did Onecoin follow up? Why did they follow up so close to when the investigation was closed?
That’s a rhetorical question, right? 😉
Lies and half-truths are great tools in the scam trade.
I noticed this too. He then claims that he’s not endorsing, only posting “facts”, do your own due diligence, blah blah, yet only posts positive spammy press releases and completely ignores anything negative no matter how significant it is.
He is at least partly responsible for aiding and abetting scammers across many fraudulent Ponzi/pyramid schemes.
I still wonder what happened with the Norwegian request to attend a OneCoin meeting, etc. Back in February. I’m sure that OneCoin didn’t reply yes, to the regulator’s request. But, then what? Is Norway still investigating? Guess it’s a waiting game…
Summary of findings of the series of (technical) analysis of the OneCoin “Blockchain”, aka fake Blockchain simulator, on NOLINK://onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com.
Next to the summary of findings on the fake blockchain, we have published a number of Questions & Answers on our approach.
NOLINK://onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com/2017/03/analysis-of-onecoin-blockchain-summary.html
Some examples:
@MikeR
Perfect!Nice “little” info already sent to “our inspector”…
Thanks for your actions as well. This Swedish case is very important imo.
Let see how this deal on dealshaker works out.
link: imgh.us/GLS550.jpg
50 pcs sold – price in EU is aprox 100k eur/piece.
Where will the merchant find now 5mio eur to buy new stock 🙂
I cant believe this is real..
I’ve also messaged our contact at polizi.se with these and more 🙂
@Tim Thats good. We have sent so much info to the investigation during a long time.
Good to make a rerun, i think Insp. is not reachsble nor through swotchboard or directnumber. Tried several times today as well.Just send mails, a lot.
Oversold the Mercedes, yet not a single bite on the high end BMW for the same amount of OneCoin…. interesting.
A little research on the whois info for that “dealer” throws up some red flags.
Shady registrar with some shady clients and at least one breach of their ICANN registration agreement.
Actually 120K each in fake OneCoin “value” and he somehow managed to “sell” 52/50.
For the merchant though they’re going to have to underwrite over 6 million EUR in inventory, until they can actually convert OneCoins into cash (lol).
This is a joke or setup for sure. On 19 March I sent this email to www (AT) tianhe-cars.com
It did not bounce, but I did not receive a response (as expected).
In this Tweet you can find the email and the two pictures:
NOLINK://twitter.com/OneCoinFacts/status/843479836765184000
Statistics of the total number of Dealshaker deals per day (selection of dates to show the trend):
Thu 16/Feb/17 – 409
Thu 23/Feb/17 – 1161
Thu 2/Mar/17 – 2436
Thu 9/Mar/17 – 3839
Thu 16/Mar/17 – 5531
Wed 22/Mar/17 – 7257
And all of it is just “numbers on a screen.”
An (Anonymous) Onecoin IMA (defector/ Rookie Account) received the following today:
FWD: In my mailbox from: compliance(at)onelife.eu Suspension
THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR ONECOIN???
Events are certainly coming together to thwart our friends in OneCoin and the three which I find particularly enlightening at the moment are;
1. The defectors who are leaving eg the Islam brothers and other senior uplines.
2. The increasing desperate efforts OneCoin is making to haul in money from the end of the tail setting up so called distributors and seeking upgrades from existing investors — our own Pioneer here in Ireland is emigrating but has been seeking to persuade his 2500 Downline to upgrade their packages whilst he is still here to provide his expertise —-he must feel they need to purchase the same educational packages twice so they are supereducated (See below);
3. They are pulling the same IPO trick they did with previous cryptocurrencies (PROSPER CLUB, uFUN, BIGCOIN).
If you add in the lack of a real blockchain, no mining from open sources and centralisattion I guess you know we have been duped.
By the way our local leader has indicated on the record that we are not investors -we just bought educational products and the tokens/coins are simply a gift from which we should not have anticipated returns.
Why should anyone buy a tycoon for educational material which is heavily plagiarised, does not mention OneCoin in its content and is irrelevant –particularly those individuals who invested nearly 100 K so they must have bought 20 pieces of education.
And it is irrelevant that it was split about a dozen time to gross over 4 Million Euros!!!
The Italian Authorities have banned OneCoin in their country and nearly all States in Europe -and further afield -have issued warnings about this Pyramid which now seems to be closing down –why Even Juha has lost his no 1 ranking in global MLM commission –maybe duplication isn’t everything when only 25000 are signing up every month and dropping.
What you can do is send your stories to this site and let the disenchanted speak for themselves -alternatively make a complaint to your local national consumer authority or equivalent.
Your uplines should call extraordinary meetings— like the Islam brothers—and start the transparency . Did you realise that the coins were never part of an investment.
APRIL 1ST WOULD BE A GREAT DAY TO GO GLOBAL!
@cryptokill
Is the date set when you will be up in court? Looking forward to info you can provide us with from the hearing.
Writs are going from one to another at the moment so we should have preliminary dates in the next fortnight?
Affidavits will identify the issues of allege defamation and it looks as if Peter Shaw -one of the Senior Ambassadors is involved in the legal costs-so I imagine they feel that they can afford John Barrett on stage.
He was the Irish pioneer who CHAR had identified as posting his achievements on Behind MLM but he has had the post removed cos he said it wasn’t him that put it up!!!!!!
He was doorstepped by the Sunday papers here and after saying he wasn’t allowed by OneCoin to speak to the press then gossiped for the next hour.
In the further comments he said that downlines were not investors and had just bought an educational package –as stated above. He then went onto name others who were in OneCoin locally and were allegedly merchants (they don’t seem to be able to sell me my OneCoin Easter Turkey so far!).
Collateral comments were made regarding Banners Brokers for whom he was one of their top salesmen, Chartfords who were /are involved in Artwork sales (?).
As part of his due diligence he indicated that he went to Dubai to check Dr Ruja and was impressed -he didn’t mention the other thousands that were in the Conference at the same time-but her magic must have been channelled mightily that day to him?
Have a look at this plagiarism link which is only the tip of that particular iceberg
imgur.com/a/030ZW
Finally, if any of you have any track record of John Barrett and Peter Shaw and their various Irish activities and involvements please post here so that we can build up the dossiers.
APRIL 1ST IS COMING so keep up the defections and let us know
@cryptokill I’m currently working on a new article which proves that the aim of the OneLife/OneCoin Network is not to sell educational packages, but to hype a fake cryptocurrency.
This might help your case I hope.
It will be published later today, I will post in this topic as soon as it’s ready.
Since feb 2017:
The leaders drop out because they have a cash flow problem, the so called top all have a Dubai green card and bank accounts, since there are no invoices the state of Dubai froze their accounts!
So the Top scammer are less rich than you think because they did follow not entrepreneurs but just a bunch of scammers, now the drop outs are looking for another crack pipe to smoke…
Great, I know that at various times they have described themselves as FinTech and a global reserve currency as well as some grandiose financial ecosystem!
I recall that they hired a Miami based lawyer to try ad get approval in USA and not one comment in the application mentioned Educational Products -that was posted some time ago and Oz can probably find or refer you to it. I am not a good navigator but still have a vestige of memory!!
Look forward to your article,
Regards
I gave my 2c on this a while back:
The seller (who sold 50 BMWs too!) has now 102 donkeys who think they have bought 120 000€ car. Let’s assume a hypothetical buyer from Finland. Next up is:
1) Cash advance the donkey needs to pay to get the car from factory. Nothing much, maybe 500€ or 1 000€. The seller will promise to pay that back once the cars arrive and explain that this is necessary as the factory cannot accept OneCoins.
2) Shipping costs. Perhaps 1 000€ or 2 000€. The same thing, Maersk does not accept OneCoins and the car needs to be shipped to Finland from China, right? Besides, it’s a 100 000€ car, what difference does 1 000€ make anyway?
3) Taxes. The seller will offer “negotiated deal” where the taxes (usually around 40 000€ to Finland I think) can be paid with as low as 15 000€! Per buyer, of course. This is explained to the donkey to actually SAVE 25 000€ in taxes!
4) Then the shipment “accidentally ends up to the harbor of Kaliningrad” or something. The seller will ask for 1500€ so he can pay the customs clearance to get the car back on its way to Finland.
No worries, he’ll promise to refund the previously charged 500€ advance fee at this point, so it’s only 1000€. The donkey feels he gets his own money back and besides the car is almost in Finland now!
Feel free to add any other additional Nigerian prince gold bar transfer tricks. And as many as you want. Just with the ones listed above the seller of the cars has already made whopping 1 734 000€ or more of profit, assuming all 102 buyers will bite it (hook line and sinker).
The “cars” can be sold in pure OneCoins, money is extracted from the idiots later.
Don’t forget to include this. Can anyone with straight face say that Ruja is selling education here?
youtube.com/watch?v=WBiqEJc1IRo&t=2m40s
“It’s all part of the education package!” would probably be the answer.
You know, in the world of finance there isn’t only theory and knowledge, an important part of it is made by charisma! A deep look with your eyes, the right dressing, make-up, the right usage of voice and words and a lot of things more are shown in this video.
Maybe they are in trouble. running out of money. Mcmurrain very active, 2 videos per day.
NOLINK://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%2012-m&q=Onecoin
Hurry up Upgrade before 1.4. We need more money!!!!
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Just published, article with title “Aim of OneLife Network is not to sell educational packages, but to hype a FAKE cryptocurrency”:
onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com/2017/03/aim-of-onelife-network-is-not-to-sell.html
Too much material so I had to make a selection.
Summary:
@MikeR
just read the full article and even though I am not American it is AWESOME.
It looks increasingly as if the Scheme is collapsing which may help to understand why Barrett has emigrated.
Interesting note -blog 29 and I wonder if anyone has additional information re these Dubai closures.
If anyone has further info re John Barrett -please post
Thanks. I have made this with your case in mind, so if you or your lawyer have good tips for improvements, feel free to post them.
NB: It would not surprise me if Barrett’s emigration is related to this OneCoin ponzi scheme.
@Cryptokill
The top leaders bought for 90k euro a – greencard/bankaccount – Dubai pack, since They dump money on accounts and have Zero invoices, the Dubai state questions the source of the Funds (money laundering act).
They bought it from the no1 income earner in the world, his own so Called Dubai green card is found on his own FB.
This was posted as part of OneLife’s weekly newsletter and I have copied this from the compliance notes.
Still mystifies me and with typical OnEcOIN wording does this mean that the Uplines can buy at discounted prices for their own downlines..
If so does this mean that an upline can buy a gift code to anew Affiliate (or whatever they are called) at a discount price , sell for the published price and then get commission on the full price.
If any of you have insights into how this actually works please post .. I never went active on OneCoin as I developed major concerns more or less as soon as I invested and have only lost about 900 Euros–but have had free learning ever since –and I mean from the community not from educational packages.
Thanks John for tha update regarding Dubai -yet another brick in the wall.
I don’t think that they buy the so called “Gift Codes” from the up line. People buy directly from the company adding the (nick)name of the person who recommended the educational package.
Without telling the name of the seller, you can not buy, because the whole up line of the seller gains provision with it.
This coverage made by Swiss television, shows at 8:15 how the scheme works: youtube.com/watch?v=J0mSqqQ2nro aprox. 96% of the invested money feeds the scheme!
@crypto kill
Team Leaders can purchase discount codes from the company with money in their Cash Account. Depending on the rank, discounts may be applied of 6%-20% …possibly more nowadays and in some cases with the right connections and/ or negotiations.
In this respect, Onecoin Corporate is immediately paid, while the Team Leader (or IMA) possessing the Discount Codes must sell them in order to recoup his investment in the batch of codes he just purchased.
So, let’s say a Team Leader purchases €10K in discount codes. He can sell those for maybe €12K and keep the €2K in cash.
Interestingly, the #1 Onecoin scammer, Juha Parhiala (who has a small interest ownership in the company) was GIVEN a TON of discount codes. He sold many of these, BUT ALSO gave many away in bulk, ON CREDIT, to other top leaders, assuming that they would pay him back when they got paid.
In an ironic turn off fate, several of these Top Leaders epithet stopped promoting or had trouble selling the codes, Millions of Euro worth that Juha had given out on loan!!!
So, now Juha had actually threatened legal action against at least one of the recipients of the Discount Codes he’d given (!!!).
Juha was supposed to make his built in commission after the Team Leader(s) he’d given the codes to sold them and made their commission. But none of this happened and many of these discount codes went unsold but are also not in Juha’s possession.
So, Juha has 100.000’s or possibly a couple million owed to him on this which he’ll never see. A funny case of scammers being scammed (or at least the subject of their own scam).
Presumably this is not an isolated case. Presumably many of the Discount Codes have been “floated” out to downlines who believed this was the way to go.
For one, it’s the easiest way to retrieve money from your cash account and turn it back into real money.
Why does this reminds me so much of “voucher code” from the pyramid scheme “TVI Express”?
(TVI Express gives you a free “voucher” for reentry into the double matrix if you manage to finish filling the matrix. The voucher can be sold to recruits, or used for reentry by the same person.
Later, the vouchers can be purchased directly from the company for a discount so the recruiters can pocket cash directly.)
@TimTayshun
Wow! Are these information open to all Onecoiners? I’ve never heard about it.
@Santa Maria
I’m not sure what the process was for handing out Discount Coupons to top leaders, but some of the biggest guys like Juha and today I just learned that many others were in similar positions.
So, to add clarity to the above:
Juha got TONS of these discount codes. He gave them out to top leaders at discounts, who then, themselves (in many cases), also have them out “on credit” to many in their own downlines.
So, it wasn’t even so much that the leaders who received the codes from Juha didn’t pay him back. The problem was that these other leaders also have out large numbers of these on credit who sold them on “promises to pay,” but they never paid.
Therefore many of the IMA’s didn’t pay their Team Leaders for the codes and the Team Leaders therefore couldn’t pay Juha.
But supposedly this happened in a number of teams and downlines across the board.
I addition to what was already said by others, the gift codes can be bought from OneLife backend using OneCoins (the exchange rate to euros is 0.5 EUR per ONE, not 9.85 EUR per ONE). But this is not always the case – the possibility to use OneCoins for payment seems to go on and off without any warning.
When the possibility to buy a gift code with OneCoins is available, it is the only (and still illegal) way to convert OneCoins to euros:
1) Buy a gift code for 1000 EUR package, paying 2000 ONE.
2) Sell the package to a new affiliate (who will lose his/her money forever) for 1000 EUR.
3) End up with 500 EUR for each 1000 ONE you had.
4) Profit.
When gift codes can be bought only with euros in cash account, it’s still the most affordable (and still illegal) method to get euros out:
1) Buy a gift code for 1000 EUR package, paying 1000 EUR from your cash account.
2) Sell the package to a new affiliate (who will lose his/her money forever) for 1200 EUR. Say it has extra service or whatever to justify the 200 EUR price increase.
3) End up with 200 EUR extra.
4) Profit.
The shameless ones can use either method to get a return.
I am grateful Tim for your explanation and from Santa Maria’s reaction I think we have uncovered something which was hiding in plain sight ..
I understand about Juha because I had read that if you bought him a bottle of whisky he would pass over a gift code–of course no mention of it being on credit!!
So to keep it simple Barrett buys codes from OneCoin at a discount-say 15% off a Starter which he sells to me for 130 Euros and therefore buys it at 85 Euros (or 115 if he is obliged to pay for the admin which is unlikely cos he already has accounts!!!).
So he pockets 45 Euros on that transaction and as we bought 7 there is an additional 315 or so hidden profit.
He then gets 10% commission(another 90 Euros) so overall on a purchase of 910 Euros he gets over 400 Euros profit nd then his upline gets more ..
Looks as if about 50% has just been siphoned off without access to the fantastic educational product(which is heavily plagiarised and includes ebook content which retails at about $ and I get 7 of them
please confirm the logic and sequencing is correct as I believe this will not be understood or known by the downlines (eg Santa Maria0) and they will be very interested to know.
After your clarification I will write to Barrett and ask for his statement /explanation on this -as well as others who have used gift codes. Following that i wonder what the 2500 Affiliates in his downline will say and react .
I would recommend that you all do this if you were sold packages with codes —I am fortunate that I have all the codes and will present these in Court.
By the way this would mean that the Company -OneCoin -would not have been able to effect the refund within the 2 week cooling off period as the hidden profit had gone He has suggested the cooling off facility is the mark of a trustworthy Company.
I wonder what he declared on his tax return for 2015.
April 1st is nearly there!!!–and I certainly was fooled!!!
a Vincent Callebaut of brussels, belgium has posted the following claim on FB an hour or so ago:
callebaut calls himself a ‘consultant and expert in digital currency’ and has a photo of himself with charles goerens, an EU member of parliament.
i suppose callebaut is a paid shill like chris principe, who as publisher of the financial IT magazine carried pro onecoin articles.
but still, how are these guys getting into the european parliament?
i suppose callebaut made his presentation at the EU brussels, belgium, office. the Belgian Financial Services and Markets Authority [FSMA] has issued a warning against onecoin last year itself, and yet there is a onecoin presentation in the EU brussels office?
this reminds me of nicolas giannos promoting the utoken/ufun fake currency to the samoan govt. the tiny island nation of samoa caught onto the scam pretty quickly and threw his ass in jail, wonder how long the EU will take…..
Sounds like opportunity to get our experts on the TV Programme and also the lawyers who are dealing withe LAURENT case in Belgium should contact the appropriate office in the Parliament.
The FSMA should be asked to reissue the warning. some expert.
@Crypto Kill – BINGO! Unfortunately, I do not have enough personal knowledge about the process to elaborate further at this time. I will data mine some of the defectors and Team Leaders I know in order to seek greater clarity.
Ps. I’m SURE that there are timid Onecoinists reading this who may or may not still be in the fence about the whole scheme. Please choose a pseudonym and comment for clarification of the above. We appreciate it.
@anjali – THIS is what a cryptocurrency “expert” looks like in front of a government body logically conveying the transparency and attributes of REAL and disruptive cryptocurrency:
SEE: youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM
Andreas M. Antonopoulos educates Senate of Canada about Cryptocurrency & Bitcoin
ALSO SEE: youtube.com/watch?v=XotOwt8bTeI
Andreas M. Antonopoulos testimony for Australian Senate on Digital Currencies
(I’ve listened to the entire first one probably 20-30x. Would be absolutely hilarious to see these CLOWNS try to describe Onecoin.)
Here is information about the television set he was discussing.
audiovisual.europarl.europa.eu/Page.aspx?id=2020
It’s a first come first serve set for media professionals. It’s not a place where you go to to give presentations to the European Parliament.
My assumption is that his “colleague” interviewed him on the set. While he was on the set, he ran into the Luxembourg politician and took a picture.
The European Parliament is a joke. It is peopled by politicians and bureaucrats who were too dim, scandal-tarnished or openly corrupt to get a job in the real Parliaments in their home countries.
How did OneCoin representatives get into the European Parliament? I imagine they knocked.
Just to be clear: I have no onecoin account! A friend of mine tried to recruit me and after some researches I tried to explain him that onecoin is a scam. Since then I’m following news about this scam in internet.
At the evening they tried to sell me some of these educational packages, no one said a word about “gift codes”.
they said to me that my payment would be made to the company directly, I had only to say who recommended onecoin to me. But this was long before banks started closing onecoin official accounts… maybe this parallel selling started afterwards.
Hi Santa Maria.
Well done -it sounds as if you did better due diligence than me .. Actually I was mainly trying to get Barrett off my back.
The Codes were certainly being used in Summer 2016 and it looks as if it is an established side scam that they were previously aware of from previous pyramid schemes eg BigCoin.
Their modus operandi seems to have been to use elements of previous experiences they have been involved in and roll them out as funds dried up —- splits are a classic example of incentivising slow inputs but presented as get in while you can.
I agree totally with Tim TAYSHUN (BLOG 51 ABOVE) that OneCoiners should post their experiences here on this particular matter.
The reaction you showed which appears to be one of complete shock will be shared by all others in various downlines so once we get further confirmation we shall post it and share it fully with all known downline members here in Ireland.
Many of them will have thought they were being given a personal favour in signing up rather than a direct opportunity to pass hidden profit to their new best friend.
transparency is -as always -key.
For those of you who want to give a victim statement here is the most recent up to date list of regulatory sources and warnings.
onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com/2017/03/prohibitions-and-warnings-by-legal.html
As i suggested the beginning of the end?
I finally managed to crack this thing with DealShaker – it’s a mechanism to remove all the cash points from the circulation.
Ruja and OneCoin leaders are not interested in OneCoins – those are Ponzi points with 0 value and they can generate them at will. What they are interested in is the cash bonuses:
When a donkey pays 1000€ to OneCoin, Ruja gets 1000€. The pyramid above the donkey gets credit of 300€ (100€ per level for three levels).
Here comes the problem: when the pimps try to cash out those 100€ cash prizes, Ruja will have to take 300€ from her purse and she does not want to!
First there was a 15€ “handling costs” for withdrawals, ensuring that 45€ stay in Ruja’s purse.
Then they upped it to 30€, making sure that 90€ will stay in Ruja’s purse. And now… DEALSHITTER!
Let’s have imaginary person Ken LaPimp who has 100€ in his cash account.
Don McDonkey, an unhappy OneCoin investor sets up a service to DealShitter, offering a party service that includes pizzas and drinks for participants. Don sells the service for 100€ + some OneCoins.
Ken buys that service from Don, paying 100€ to Don.
Ruja takes 50% fee, Don has now 50€ in his cash account and some OneCoins.
Don needs all the stuff for actually arranging the party! He pays everything else himself but luckily there’s a pizzeria where Ingrid De La Investor is selling two pizzas and a large Coca-Cola for 5€ and some onecoins.
Don buys 20 pizzas (2 x 10) with the 50€ he has in his cash account.
Ruja takes 50% fee, Ingrid gets 25€ to her cash account.
Ingrid needs the ingredients for the pizzas and the Coca-Cola! She pays the pizza ingredients herself but finds that Ken LaPimp is selling some excess Coca-Cola from his previous party for 2.5€/bottle.
Ingrid buys 10 bottles of Cola from Ken with the 25€ she has in her cash account.
Ruja takes 50% fee, Ken gets 12.5€ to his cash account.
We’re back at Ken who has 12.5€. He could set up another party except all of a sudden 87.5% of the money has dissappeared to Ruja’s purse!
In every step the donkeys can’t cash out the euros trapped in their cash accounts as payments “are having difficulties” and xcoinx.com is closed.
The only use for the euros in their cash accounts is to shop in Dealshitter which gets you some physical real-life goods with monetary value without having to wait for the next excuse from OneCoin/OneLife.
It’s ingenious as donkeys send the money to Ruja by themselves so you can’t really even call it a fraud. 😀
A reader of the German forum onecoin.forumprofi.de/Forum-onecoin pointed at the importance of the attempts by the OneLife/OneCoin companies to bypass Consumer Protection Laws and Financial Regulations.
This topic fitted nicely in the last article onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com/2017/03/aim-of-onelife-network-is-not-to-sell.html, so I’ve added two sections:
@MileR – nice. and on-point! Great and accurate conclusion.
I was listening to older Ruja and leader YouTube conferences, and recruitment events, and this it’s very obvious. In an early-days event Greedwould encourages multiple Tycoon purchase for the tokens.
If the “product” were education, this would make zero sense. After all, do most struggling college students purchase NEW or used books, if used books are applicable to their class?
In OneCon victims are encouraged to buy THE SAME PACKAGES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I know one victim, locally, who has 6 Tycoons(!).
In terms of “Education Material” we are taking about DIGITALLY distributed (and often plagiarized) data. Now, while I personally own a few translations and hard-copy versions/ pressings of Cervantes de Saavedra’s “Don Quixote of La Mancha” a digital version of the same exact text would serve absolutely ZERO purpose to own, if I had to purchase it.
After all, I could simply hit ave reproduce it myself, in about 3seconds, at zero cost. So, the ponzi tokens are the ONLY *value being offered by purchasing the same exact digital data twice, or 3x, or 4x, or 7x (ask Ken Labine’s cat Milo).
“Tokens=coins=9.85€ each= “I’m rich, bitch!”
@cryptokill – I have some info for you too!
Top Leaders can slate themselves to either “pool” or pitcher for themselves “Discount Code BLOCKS.”
As is intuitive, THIS would be the club “terminology” for what Juha Parhiala was offering at the highest levels to his Top Leaders, who offered these to THEIR Top Team Leaders, etc., and down the line.
So, by the time Juha may have given out 100.000’s€ “Discount Blocks” to his Top guys, they could have given out 10.000’s€ to THEIR Top guys, who may have in turn given 1.000’s€’s to THEIR favorite team leaders, with commission structures rolling all the way up the ladder, IN COLD HARD CASH!
THIS IS THE MOST CONCISE DEFINITION OF “MONEY LAUNDERING” (and clever, I might add) to be added to the newest renditions of the “Ponzi Playbook.”
One can see how such “chain of command” in the laundering process can be broken at several different stages ….but what the hell else ya gonna do when banks keep freezing and seizing 10€ million here and 10€ million there?
Ps. It is said that Juha Parhiala (AKA: Pariah) would flood Discount Code offers to constituents contingent upon “any good bottle of Scotch and a conversation/ “sit-down.”
(Insert weird that makes sense with weird that doesn’t, in ALL prior posts – I blame “autocorrect”)
Lee Oshea has done another post claiming Deal Shaker has sold another 52 Mercedes Benz in an hour, but the Picture is a BMW 320i. What a Bafoon..
Also, the amount of cars sold on Deal Shaker (So He Claims) must be a few hundred. But not one person has come forward (not that i’ve seen) saying they have received it)…
Anyone seen anything different.??
umm, has the london police given the all clear to onecoin?
it seems onecoin events are resuming openly in london:
the leaders who will speak at this event are:
jamil khan, peter shaw, udo deppisch, yasir mirza.
these^^ guys are all top affiliates of onecoin, and it seems they are feeling safe again to hold events in london!
From what I’ve seen Chinese scammers are having a field day selling fake luxury cars to OneCoin scammers. Lol.
Must be pretty desperate scammers, what with them being unable to convert OneCoin to money and all.
I’ve seen that FB post and I know which advertisement he is referring to (I saved hyperlink and screenshot of this red BMW 320i).
I am 100% sure that this BMW320i deal was deleted BEFORE the “Buy this deal from” date. Before that date the Buy button is disabled (not “clickable”).
Two other deals for new cars fully paid in OneCoins seem to have been sold oud indeed. The first one was the Mercedes GLS550 on 22 March, 50 coupons, 52 sold. The 2nd one was the BMW X6 XDRIVE35I on 25 March.
These deals were still visible after they were sold out.
Yesterday 30 March I received a response to my 19 March email about the BMW X6 XDRIVE35I (see post #21 in this thread).
With apologies for the late reaction, but none of my questions was answered. Only a statement that this deal was open for delivery to China only, but that similar deals for Europe were in preparation.
At least we know now that www (AT) tianhe-cars.com is a valid email address.
I’m currently working on an article dedicated to Dealshaker, I will include this info.
See my comment #31 on this thread and you’ll see how they can make real euros out of selling fake cars for OneCoins only. I think it’s a very plausible scenario.
As you hear where the London event is going to be held and indeed whether it is it would be useful to somehow get a series of questions put to the floor and our Agenda published ..
I hope the london police will be there in some capacity and I would love to see arrests made publically.
Incidentally I was recently told that yasir had fallen out with Dr Zahir over crosslining so that it will be interesting to see whether they have made up or is Yasir the new golden boy.
Failed private eye Labine still bigging up Dealshaker…. a book nobody reads for 2.54 One and 24.75 € thecryptoproezine.com/2017/03/30/how-to-purchase-a-product-using-onecoins-on-dealshaker/
or $7.99 on iTunes itunes.apple.com/us/book/chocolate-revolution/id1053219097?mt=11
Hmmmmmmm let me think.
Or $1.99 on Amazon, unless you have Kindle Unlimited, in which case there is no charge. 🙂
Before anyone posts a link to the new CT article… remember the date.
It does make you wonder who on earth is buying from Dealshaker, if at all, when a simple search shows the appalling overpriced goods on offer.
For a fair comparison we should not check ebook prices, but the price of the hardcover version, because it looks like that’s the one which is offered on Dealshaker.
This Hard Cover First Special Edition seems to be available only on the author’s own website: chocolaterevolutionthebook.com
The BUY NOW button leads to a PayPal page with a 49,97 USD price. This is quite expensive, but after reading this book:
If Boughey still gets the ebook the author is a swindler and crook Boughey gets what he deserves.
However, a lot of deals on Dealshaker are overpriced indeed.
@ MikeR
Good catch. Lazy me. 🙂
I would think he’ll get the good old signed hard cover.
Not really a deal if you’re a OneCoiner who believes in the price made up for OC.
But at least it’s 50% off if you consider OneCoins to be worthless.
And that IS completely correct! 😀
@Is – I’ve conceded Onecoin defeat over Twitter already
QUOTE: “I promised @KenLabine if this day came I’d publicly apologize to all Onecoinists” #2yrsWasted
cointelegraph.com/news/onecoin-to-be-listed-on-coinmarketcapcom-humbling-ethereum
WTF?
Onecoin To Be Listed On Coinmarketcap.com, Humbling Ethereum
cointelegraph.com/news/onecoin-to-be-listed-on-coinmarketcapcom-humbling-ethereum
@ Bernardo – – – It’s April Fools Day.
Read the story again, Bernardo, especially the last line:
“Unprecedented price volatility is far from being expected in the next couple of days across major cryptocurrencies because this is just a huge joke!”
He said!!! many advantages of the crypto-currency Onecoin.
facebook.com/vincent.callebaut.9?pnref=story
Another April joke!!
Well, that OneCoin piece in CT was a lovely April Fools Joke which spread virally within many OC groups. I received tons of, “Ha! We told you so’s!” on FB and other social media
I have screen captures of several conversations within private groups, including a lengthy (and hilarious) one in the Onecoin Indonesia Private Telegram Group which I infiltrated, and also from Nigeria.
The fallout is causing reps to wonder Why the largest cryptocurrency Media Group in the world would make such a mockery – which should be obvious.
Jose Gordo, now one of the largest OneCULT Leaders in the sect is said to have “confirmed” the story yesterday to one of the Team Leaders beneath him – which just shoes how despicable these clowns are.
The beauty about the prank is the Catch-22 situation posed to OneCon/ OneLie Network about addressing it: They’re screwed if they don’t (more documented cover-up and deception) and they’re screwed if they do (why would one of the most read sites in crypto choose Onecoin as the butt of a joke in such a way). All-in-all absolutely brilliant!!
The let-down is slowly sinking in amongst victims. Hopefully it will cause them to finally demand that tough questions be answered and put the company on an increasingly molten hot-seat.
That post-tech “white paper” was announced by former U-Fun scammer Joby Boughey 3 weeks ago now. Maybe someone’s dog ate it?
OLN Newsletter, getting a bit repetetive.
us9.campaign-archive1.com/?u=cf9659fd672fe664d487e7e1b&id=8dc9777bca&e=a0e0b3336a
Just published, review of the Dealshaker platform: onecoinonelifefacts.blogspot.com/2017/04/dealshaker-facts-and-deal-reviews.html
Conclusions:
Thanks again for a great review.
Any update regarding the OneCoin meeting in London this weekend -where, when and whether Peter Shaw will be going.
Apr 08, 2017 01:00 PM – 05:00 PM
Address: Holiday Inn Kensington 97 Cromwell Road Kensington London SW7 4DN
Featured Speakers:
Udo Depoisch, Peter Shaw, Jamil Khan and Yasir Mirza
See: onelifeevents.eu/en/events/london-mega-training-event
Well if they double (split?) the merchants every 2 months, they will in the remaining 14 months end up with 1 024 000 merchants. (Incidentally that is “seven splits” in OneCoin terms.)
Agreed, it is not happening.
@MikeR
There should be an alternative to the compensation plan to get cash in your onecoin account. If I remember right, you can transfer money from a real bank account to your onecoin account as you want, respectively without buying a package.
In one of the videos on youtube some leader explained, that if you buy a one ore more packages (more packages to get more splits), you should always transfer a 10% more than the cost of the packages to get sure you have enough cash in your account to pay charges, fees and so on.
So theoretically you should be able to shop on Stealshaker with your coins and cash you transfer to your account, without being active part of the scam, what you are when you get bonuses.
Thx, I didn’t know this, so I will try to get more info on this and modify the article accordingly.
I don’t think this is right. In every case what I have seen, when member asked from a upliner how to get cash to his/her cash account, the answer was: “ask your upline to transfer euros to your cash account”.
Here’s one such case: i.imgur.com/IKB40Xu.png
Hi guys
I have been going through various threads and feel that we are losing sight of our primary objective which is to stop onecoin and hasten its demise.
I am not sure who will lead this but can we have a debate of some description with an emphasis on planned action .
I think it is about time we accelerated visibly the end of this corrupt Organisation.
@crypto kill – Mike R, Bjorn Boernke (blockchain expert) and myself were on a FULL Webinar today out of London, as guests to some defected Onecoin team Leaders (but genuine victims) who’ve learned the truth and actually set up a WhatsApp Support Group for anyone who wants to join without fear of being censored or kicked out.
The Group seeks answers and several have now been in direct contact with London City Police. Here was the invite:
On the webinar were all levels of person’s who had purchased 100’s or 10.000’s of Euro packages. There were defectors, struggling believers who were still on the fence, there were SEVERAL Diamonds, a Blue Diamond, many Ruby’s, and at least 3 Leaders who are KNOWN SCAMMERS with big downlines and millions in victims money who attempted (unsuccessfully and muted, by the way) to disrupt the Call and discredit those speaking :).
While this didn’t work, one such absolute scammer I will point out was Prince King James(sp?) whom is a fully informed and willing participant in the Onecoin fraud and one of the biggest criminals in Caribbean leadership, directly under Igor Alberts and Andreea Cimbala.
The messages and testimonies were brutal, honest, technical at times (Bjorn on real v. Fake blockchain attributes) and eye-opening.
Without saying too much, most participants were shocked and awed by the amount of critical and factual information and detail shared about the company FOR THE FIRST TIME, for many of them!
Several recognized high level Leaders listened in. Some were quiet, while others BOLDLY spoke up. At least one (one of the biggest) did schedule a follow-up conversation for tomorrow with the host, as he was clearly taking it very seriously. And remember, NO ONE has been getting ANY real answers in weeks, except for mostly blatant lies.
Earlier this week, Top Leader Jose Gordo had responded to earlier questioning, which was parroted by his immediate downline Team Leaders, that “the UK case was no longer active and no one had anything to worry about.” Yeah right!
THE CALL CLEARLY PROVED OTHERWISE AND THAT INDEED THERE WAS QUITE A LOT TO BE URGENTLY, IMMEDIATELY AND CRITICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
Collectively, the group who WERE on the call today represented 1,000’s (or even ~10,000) in total downline victims and SEVERAL MILLION EUROS WORTH of stolen funds (whether unknowingly our not)!!
I want to reiterate that from appearance and action, the call REALLY turned some heads, including diamond+ levels(!!!), and we believe will prompt action!
In summary, I apologize for being somewhat vague and not naming names, etc. This was super interesting and impactful. And there are compelling reasons not to just blab about any of those participants (outside of 100% scammer King James).
There were some former Team Leaders who really came clean and spoke the truth with conviction. Additional follow-up webcasts are the planmed soon.
This level of action Will see information spread like wildfire, we believe! Stay tuned! There Will definitely be more to come, and the walls (in UK at least) are beginning to come tumbling down slowly but surely!
How can someone who’s interested attend a future webinar or follow up conversation to last nights webinar?
This is the first time I’ve heard of such. It goes against every info I’ve heard so far as well as it is against the OneCoin “we only sell education with free promotional tokens” policy which so far has – without an exception – made sure that the money paid at the time of buying an “educational package” never converts to OneCoins directly. Coins come from free tokens that were not paid for, euros come from referral bonuses or selling of those coins that were received from tokens that were not paid for.
Everything I’ve seen aims to ensure the point that there is no money (or OneCoins) that one could try to claim later as “his/her money” since everything comes from free complimentary tokens.
They have been slipping from the general rule lately; the Supreme package that costs 188 000€ will also provide each Member with 1 888 OneCoins directly – something that even the 118 000€ “Ultimate” trader does not do. This might be one of the reasons why the Supreme package is not for sale in Europe.
In sum: “Pics or it didn’t happen”.
I’m not saying it is impossible to feed the cash account like that, I’m just saying it is all news to me and I’d love to see some concrete proof it is possible.
@ Otto
“the money paid at the time of buying an “educational package” never converts to OneCoins directly.”
You are absolutely right with that! Maybe I wrote it down in the wrong way, sorry for that. I’m looking for the video I saw, hope I can find it. For the moment I have to say that I maybe confused the cash account with the wallet or another tool of onecoin or the buying process with the upgrade process. But I’m sure that I heard in a video, that it could be possible that due to fees or charges, it could happen that your payment wouldn’t work. In this case the money is not lost but goes to “your cash account”, maybe this is the case when you want to cash out?
Video:
Onecoin blockchain destroyed by blockchain specialist Ыфгп Ыегске.
Clips from Zoomcast 5th April 2017:
0:00-11:27 Norwegian system specialist and blockchain expert Ыфгп Ыегске tells about what is wrong with OneCoin, its blockchain, how OneCoin transactions are not recorded in the blockchain, and how he was contacted by a recruitment company to work for OneCoin.
11:28-16:40 ex-OneCoin leader Abdikarim Ismail tells about Tanzania event which resulted police interference, and how he was told by a top leader that Onecoin had no blockchain before October 1st 2016.
16:41 Tim Curry tells more about Tanzania event and what happened with Daniel Grenon there.
Hopefully some of the good guys will be going to the London Seminar this Saturday and I will be particularly interested in if and how the speakers deal with any follow up from the Webinar that Tim posted details about -see above ..
I have been warned by Barrett’s lawyers not to harass Shaw which implies that Shaw maybe bankrolling Barrett either directly or on behalf of OneCoin.
The lawyer representing them /him here in Ireland is a guy called Gerald Kean who has a celebrity status helping footballers etc but who seems to have run into difficulties with drink driving and other issues so seems to be losing his reputation in the papers etc..
OneCoin is getting challenged on a daily increasing basis and I hope the London police seize and question attendees and speakers on Saturday. If anyone is going try and get some anti literature on the seats -for light reading during the training sessions.
Whitepaper of BLOCKCHAIN
Outstanding NEWS straight from Dr Ruja:
At the Macao event will be presented the whitepaper of BLOCKCHAIN by experts of the industry!
Be ready, give your best and stay loyal to Dr Ruja’s vision
Sensationelle Neuigkeiten, direkt von Dr. Ruja (vermittelt von Udo Deppisch): Bei Macao Event wird das sogenannte Whitepaper für die Blockchain von OneCoin von Experten der Industrie präsentiert! Sei bereit, gib dein Bestes und bleib loyal gegenüber Dr. Ruja’s Vision
HAHAHA, I can’t wait. I hope there will be a live stream. 🙂
Where did you read this breaking news?
this is great news!
it’s important that onecoin gets shut down and prosecuted rather than just collapse as a ponzi scheme.
you guys are doing such a great job!
OneCoin WhitePaper is rumored to be released in Macau event 7th May 2017.
Ыфгп Ыегске answers the question does OneCoin WhitePaper prove that there’s a valid blockchain and what the WhitePaper should include.
Video:
Ыфгп Ыегске: OneCoin White Paper should include tests which can be duplicated.
MikeR In a Onecoin Skype group I’ve read that.
@Oz/ Whistle Blower Finn/ all –
The situation about names of certain ex-Onecoinists on that call are ….delicate at the moment. For now the best tact is not to name IMHO.
There’s some confusion and also a moment that should pass to weigh this info. I’m hoping for a WAVE of defectors rather than info coming out about trickling names, at the moment.
Video captured from Zoomcast 5th April 2017.
Kieron Vaughan from London Police says they believe OneCoin is a scam. International police investigation is in progress.
London police believes OneCoin is a scam. International investigation in progress.
Ex OneCoin leader Jennifer McAdam’s angry message to her (ex) OneCoin upline leaders.
McAdam is furious! She will be planning follow-up webinar as well. This one will be public for ANYONE to join.
HEY ONECOIN SCAMMERS READING THIS!! Yes you, Labine. And you Joby! AND YOU TOM MCMURRAIN, YOU DESPICABLE HUMAN COCKROACH!
We will even invite you scumbag blood suckers to join in a fair and moderated “Panel Discussion” to defend your scam!
We will announce it and announce a dateand guess what? EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT YOU EACH HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND YOURSELVES AND YOUR SCAM and, of course, didn’t show up. THAT ALONE will speak volumes!
We now have 100%VERIFIABLE PROOF that the blockchain is absolutely fake. So, good luck!
Oh! And YOU, Ed Ludbrook! You are a despicable cockroach as well! We’ve offered you a walkthrough of how blockchain works. I’ve messaged you several times and you’ve read my messages. We’ve offered to reserve condemnation upon you and give you the opportunity to come clean. But no. Good luck with that!
STAY TUNED!
That accent though… adorable.
Are the OneCoin “defectors” moving to other scams/MLMs?
Well she definitely has her knickers in a knot, and who can blame her. OneCoiners are starting to wakeup and realize the wheels are coming off the bus and it is going to crash and soon.
My concern has always been that Ruja and cohorts would do a runner before the authorities could act. They know all these investigations are in process, and no doubt have already determined when they will run. Hopefully the authorities can surprise them before they do run.
At the speed things are happening, they are going to be lucky to make it through this month. When the major pimps bail OC is doomed.
Yes the Islam brothers for starters. See:
businessforhome.org/2017/03/monir-moyn-islam-achieve-president-rank-first-week-with-world/
Ted N still continues to big One Coin up.
See: businessforhome.org/2017/04/onecoin-onelife-sales-are-500-million-per-month/
Many will continue with other “opportunities”.
Here’s one defector from today, Fawad Asif, telling he is leaving OneLife.
Another HUGE Onecoin leader in U.K., Dr. Zafar’s direct upline, in fact, Blue Diamond Fawad Fawad (20,000+ in downline) has just announced his resignation from Onecoin saying that from this day forward he will no longer be promoting Onecoin/ OneLife.
VIDEO: facebook.com/fawad.asif/posts/10158606038675235
In fact, Fawad STARTED the Onecoin Diamond Club, which Black Diamond Zafar later took over.
This is another very significant defection! Unlike most other leaders who have left silently, Fawad just made a public announcement. While he neither said anything specifically negative or positive about the organization itself, he offered people to contact him directly “for answers.”
This is yet another significant blow as proper information is suddenly traveling like wildfire through the network and certain “leaders” like Jose Gordo, Igor Alberta and Andreea Cimbala, Wahlroos, Ludbrook, McMurrain, Boughey, Labile and a few dozen others are saying anything and denying EVERYTHING to keep new victims money from slipping through their fingertips in their final attempts to clutch onto the giant batches of blood money still being siphoned through the illegal “Discount Coupon” Money Laundering and Wire Fraud channels.
The fact is that money in victims cash accounts had not been liquid, in most cases, for 4 months now, as me tricks and shenanigans by the company only continue. And we know that stl transactions over 30 days old have now been erased for Ovid reasons by the company: to destroy evidence. And the veil is becoming increasingly lifted for many of those who have been exceedingly trapped.
So, let’s applaud this move rather than antagonize it BECAUSE it will all be sorted out later anyways. This guy was pulling siiiick dough every month. So, let’s encourage this activity amongst those who haven’t sold their soul already, because if we do, we will see more of this.
Tom McMurrain has been on a recruitment rampage hosting more frequent webinars now on FB LIVE, which offers limitless participants for him to attempt to poison and rape. But, Jen said that if we can help kick out one leg of a chair it will no longer be stable. If we kick out two, it will be a balancing act for the sitters. But if we kick out 3 legs, the bottom drops out and assess come crashing down in full collapse.
With this move, the second leg is critically wobbling already and third leg showing cracks and weakness.
Thanks to the collaborative effort of so many here and abroad who have continued fighting hard to expose the truth of fraud and criminal intention (and design, since Day 1). Stay tuned!
WE ARE LEGION
Ummmmm……. no.
Defection to other opportunities/scams isn’t unique to OneCoin. It happens all the time.
We’re simply seeing things progress the same way just about every other scam unravels in the end.
When the well begins to run dry, it’s time to move on, just like the Islam brothers did. And in the case of OneCoin, it may also be an attempt for these guys to try and cover their ass against criminal charges.
You will see more of it because that’s what scammers do, not because OneCoin is a scam.
The more the authorities have a “talk” with the major pimps of OneCoin, the faster they are dropping like flies. They get the message things are not going to end well for OneCoin and possibly them if they stay.
Ponzi pimps always know when to bail. They want to be as far away as possible to avoid the shrapnel when the Ponzi explodes so it doesn’t effect their recruiting in the their new P0nzi de Jour. Then they can tell everyone how they were duped, lied to, and conned just like everyone else when it happens.
They weren’t really a leader, but just a member like them. Sadly too many of their followers believe them and it is rinse, repeat all over again saga.
Clarification plz. Antagonize what?
Personally, I won’t be applauding scammers who have been “pulling in sick dough” defrauding people who choose to leave a sinking ship Ponzi – only to hop on another to continue stealing money.
A Ponzi dying is inevitable and pimps leave. Nothing special there.
If they don’t, DO NOT move to another, help expose this one, and repay their downlines, that is a different matter and worth applause. IMVHO
Nuyten never fails to disappoint. His last PR piece was published what, a few hours after the Islam brothers announcement?
I wonder how much of that $500 mill a month investment pie is his…
I have to wonder how accurate that number even is.
Not quite sure I believe they’re turning over $6 billion/year, especially at this point.
True, it’s probably nowhere near that amount being invested. Not even the most dodgiest of banks in the dodgiest of jurisdictions would be able to move that without triggering massive amounts of suspicious reports.
Ruja and the gang aren’t paying anything out on the backend except for recruitment commissions, so whatever they’re taking is mostly being laundered to who knows where.
OneLife Alexa is in decline, with Nigeria leading the way. Lord knows Nigerians aren’t pumping $500 mill a month into OneCoin so yeah, let’s chalk it up to Ponzi BS.
UK falling apart? Hey look over there… we’re taking in 500 mill a month. Relax guy.
You know they’re lying, if their mouths are moving.
@Char
Do BEARS GO POOO POOO in the WOODS?? With our Without chains???
The thing is… guys like Fawad / Zafir have millions in their gift code account, and cannot get not get the money from the company like a normal mlm is paying out icommission into the banks of the dist.
Now two thing are happening, they are fighting to sell their codes with up to 50% discount of to their own organ and crossline, due to the fact of slow Busines in the U.K.
They are forced to travel to the Goat countries in the Middle East and sell the codes to the goat farmers for cash… and than wire it to Dubai etc..
A Dog eat Dog world where the last losers are they guys in the far countries where there is bad internet and electricity..
Basically, company is holding onto the cash, and basically told the top guys: we’re not paying you cash. The only way you get paid is you have to sell the virtual “products” (i.e. discount codes). This way, we can pretend we sell something (to you) and you bring in more money from which we get a cut!
(It turned them into true accomplices, more rope to hang themselves)
while most of us here dislike ponzi scammers for their criminal thievery, lets not reduce the level of discussion by venting our racial biases.
there’s plenty of sites on the internet to vent racial biases [assuming you have good internet and electricity]
Onecoin “The Future of Payments” is a “cash & carry” business only now.
Way to digress back into the economic middle ages, Onecoin. Bravo!
I fully agree.
Good morning
Woke up this morning to about 15 messages on the site so knew something had happened and was delighted that the OneCoin pyramid has been seen as a scam. Dont think we are going to see an IPO after all then.
So what next ?
1. keep up the exposure and post outputs on this site and your other favourites.
2. Call on your uplines to call EGMs to explain the reality and stop the bullshit.
3 Call a meeting of your downlines and apologise.
4 lodge a claim with OneCoin that you want your money back and screensave it . You probably wont get an acknowledgement but this will act as a record-copy your upline for the record.
5 Go to the police or the Consumer Protection agency in your country and make a formal statement -remember many payments were made in cash and you may have code details etc for the record -these were sold to you at full price despite discounted prices sold to the uplines -the first hidden profit and money laundering against you.
6 Get a group together and hire a lawyer to take a class action against your local Pioneer-what do you have to lose and at least you have the decency to come clean to your downlines.
7 send the names of the Senior uplines in your country /region to this site so that they can be exposed publicly and hopefully prevented from coming back under another name -that is already starting to happen eg Giracoin/Ipro.
8. Stop ranting -get even . I don’t think racist comments will help anyone and agree with above from MikeR.
9 See if you can get the press interested and doorstep thge big guys in your territories.
I am looking forward to hearing how today’s training meeting went in London and hope the police will arrest and question those attending including Shaw who started this Pyramid here 28 months ago.
Well done and good luck to you all
muhammad zafar of the top onecoin team ‘diamond club’ of the UK, who according to promos was supposed to attend this ‘national event’ today, is busy recruiting in pakistan.
he’s getting his recruits to sign up their small businesses [like hair salons] to dealshaker, to continue the farce that onecoin has market value.
so, that’s one absentee from today’s event.
udo deppisch and peter shaw are currently at the london event and have posted a photo on FB:
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209137071889670&set=a.1739127043745.2096754.1405733596&type=3&theater
udo deppisch was touring india just before arriving in the UK today. he’s been recruiting all over ahmedabad and mumbai, inspite of a police investigation into onecoin in india.
guess i’ll have to alert the EOW [economic offences wing, police] that these guys are brazenly coming here and recruiting without a care.
the indian police would be very pleased if they could arrest a european scammer and parade him in the press to earn some brownie points.
i have mailed the EOW, mumbai, about the stepping up of onecoin recruitment activities in india by the topmost recruiters from europe.
it would be lovely if the EOW arrests one of these jokers. so, who’s visiting next?
@anjali
Tom McMurrain is just about to start Indian tour as well.
Hopefully they will arrest Mc MurraIn and he can spend some time in an Indian jail. MAYBE HE CAN COMPARE ON TRIP ADVISOR.
These characters seem to turn up with impunity and if they are not questioned today in London what is the point of investigations?
Let them do their job in their own timing, building a case like that and of these proportions is not easy and light, it needs thorough organisation, … and at the end of it, as they say, … Nature, terrorists, the law and the taxman DON’T need to get you everyday…THEY ONLY NEED 🙁 to GET YOU ONCE 😉 so let them do it thoroughly. IMHO take care all
@anjali
Tom McMurrain will be in Coimbotore India 30th April.
Please inform authorities and police as much as possible.
@anjali
McMurrain’s Delhi India event, April 29th, 2017.
Udo C. Deppisch, Dr. Parwiz Daud and Mohammad Zubair, London, 03/2017
youtube.com/watch?v=OwxAfJ-Dxm0
I really didnt need to read the ARTICLE from the Magazine Publication that came out Yeserday …
alterbusiness.info/onelife-rosnie-sile-wchodzi-gielde-uruchamia-platforme-platnosciami-kryptowaluta-onecoin/
I simply went to the very END of the ARTICLE and saw this
“This article was developed in collaboration with OneLife.”
I guess they could not afford another FORBES “PAID FOR” article write up and instead went to HUGELY POPULAR Polish Market and got such a nice write up….
What a PHAT JOKE!!!
“Collaboration with OneLife” = “show me the money!”
Given the severity of everything going on right now with OneScam…. this Article sure did come at perfect timing… or wait…. did they make it appear at the right time???? LOLOLOLOLO
thanks for the tip about mcmurrain’s india plans. i have forwarded the information to the EOW, mumbai and delhi.
there’s no guarantee that mcmurrain will be accosted by the indian police, but hey, if you were tom mcmurrain would you take the risk?
i mean, ever seen an indian jail? if the police throw him in jail, who’s going to help him get bail? his indian onecoin team mates are going to desert him in roughly half a sec! maybe ruja will fly down to save his ass?
@Anjali – same attorneys who flew to Dar es Saleem on December 18th following a 3,000 person Onecoin event there, to bail out Daniel Grenon and Judicus Greatness from Tanzania jail 😉
Just looked at the Youtube video with Udo (note 135 from Diana)and also the polish article .. Both unsubstantial and nothing new.
It is funny when you see these clips etc you wonder how on earth did I ever get sucked in. Try telling someone about all this and you realise you were totally hoodwinked.
Did anyone manage to get to the London session yesterday as the room doesn’t look too full on the facebook page -although no doubt it will be described as a mega event.
Send us the detail and I am particularly interested in Shaw.
I understand that the police were aware of the event so hope they attended in some capacity. Even now I imagine millions of Euros are taken in.
The London police have been investigating for 6 months or so now and it needs to be stopped and arrests made.-blog 132
Building a case of this size would indeed be a time consuming project. Especially because whatever authorities do would need to hold up in court.
Any sane person looking at the facts can determine that this is nothing but a major scam. However it would be a shame if in the end the case gets thrown out of court due to a technicality.
I’m quite sure I’m not the only one who would love to see this scam come to an end sooner rather than later. It would especially be nice to see some of the scammers, who are surely aware of the fact that what they are selling is nothing but bullshit, brought to justice.
Many of them are still prancing around both on- and offline as if they are untouchable. The longer they are allowed to continue their criminal activities, the more money from victims will be lost forever.
However, there may be an upside to this delayed action. As long as many of these swindlers believe they can actually get away with their lies, they continue to leave a paper trail. As a certain amount of the money is still being wired so secret OneLife bank accounts.
We can only hope that authorities will be thorough and unforgiving in their actions once they finally decide to step in. Bank records should make it fairly easy to track how much money passed through various peoples accounts, and as such how much money they and their team of scammers have stolen from victims.
A series of live webinars exposing the fraud will take place this week on Facebook LIVE. There will be UNLIMITED viewers who can join. We will post the links here once times are announced.
Thanks to all the people working to put an end to this scam. They are prancing around like they are untouchable. They need to be put in jail.
Just learned that Shaw, Barrett and a local upline who appears to have invested* lots of his time (and presumably money) came over to Ireland and held a promotional meeting last Thursday where they are still actively trying to recruit and the local lad is trying to sell golf clubs through Deal Shaker (cash and carry is what they are up to now -so much for the no 1 RESERVE CRYPTOCURRENCY!!!
.. Questions from the floor were apparently avoided with no referral to educational products as usual .. The nos attending were low and Barrett looks stressed -(not my opinion as I was not invited as indeed were most of the other alleged 2000 Affiliates here).
Selective invitations were issued as may of the Affiliates are negative (Our survey at the end Of 2016 confirmed that all Affiliates considered that Barrett was poor or very poor in management, training and communication effectiveness) or alternatively have just given up and accepted their losses.
Some of course are still brainwashed and in a state of permanent denial.
Barrett still refusing to supply his new rental address (NO FIXED ABODE ISN’T GOOD ENOUGH FOR LEGAL SERVICE) —but if any of you here in Ireland know where he is living please post the details so we can serve the writ. His lawyers won’t give out the address as “they have not been given instructions”.
Key thing is that this scheme is diminishing by the day and hopefully he will be in the lens along with others when the authorities finally move against OneCoin here in Europe.
Nets seem to be closing in and congratulations to the Italian Authorities who appear to be cutting off the hydra heads there
Looking forward to the facebook Webinars which I hope will be recorded for posterity
I only hope that Boughey, Labine and the rudest of them all O’Shea are arrested. I would quite happily fly anywhere in the World to watch these liars in Court.
And I’m gonna get my day soon ….. and mcmurrain in an Indian Jail as well is extra bonus points – we are absolutely in the endgame and I have a huge bet OC won’t last a month!
hi i am also looking forward to that webinar…. i am learning alot from u guys… (from the caribbean).
Heres the OneLife Newsletter
us9.campaign-archive1.com/?u=cf9659fd672fe664d487e7e1b&id=2da99bd677&e=a0e0b3336a
Sarah MaGee is the one who gets to me… she is helping so many in the name of God, by helping them understanding cryptocurrency.
Plus, she can’t brag enough about all the things she has been able to do and buy.
@ Rockfish
I totally agree with your comments about Sarah (and her husband Rob) McGee.
Sarah McGee posts non-stop on her Facebook page but they all can be summed up with the following:
1. “I” need COFFEE
2. YOU need Cryptocurrency EDUCATION that “I” am selling so you can get rich like “I” did
3. “I” like GOD
4. “I” need YOUR MONEY!
5. And finally…..Look what “I” just bought with YOUR MONEY!
Note: Kevin Foster is just as bad. Except he skips the COFFEE comments and adds this one:
“Wouldn’t it be nice if you could send me YOUR MONEY”
It would be funny to watch if so many naive folks weren’t getting ripped off in the process.
IMO, this is not going to end well for Sarah McGee, Kevin Foster and the rest of these ponzi pimps.
Kari Wahrloos bought a “Ferrari 488 Spider”, registered in Latvia, but the ral owner is Estonian company STARBRIGHT OÜ (inforegister.ee/en/12604134-STARBRIGHT-OU ).
This companies contact email adress is (removed) witch appears as contact email adress to more than 700 other companies registered in Estonia – google.lv/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=rihosiil3%40gmail.com%20site%3Ainforegister.ee&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ReTrWJ2ODMGPsAHzwrKICA#spf=1
Kevin Foster, OneCoin ponzi pimp, posted this today:
What a load of Bull$hit!
So…… Kevin Foster, care to dispute the following statement?
Every Dollar invested in OneCoin thru Kevin Foster by his friends, family members and social media contacts is……GONE.
Of course, Kevin Foster gets his 10% commission plus the overrides. However, that’s just short term since Kevin will have to come clean and give back the money he stole as soon as claw back begins. This will be similar to what happened with the Zeek Rewards fiasco.
Kevin, are you prepared for the day when those same friends, family members and social media contacts are the ones bringing the heat?
Thanks for organising the webinar last night and I assume the recording will be posted.
Has anyone got an update about last Saturday’s meeting in London, what was covered and how difficult questions if any were dealt with.
Similarly if any of you have info about the Ireland meeting the Thursday before that would be welcomed -particularly if Shaw ad Barrett attended info would be appreciated..
I think Jennifer was spot on regarding duty of care and if she can get in touch with me via Tim I will suggest a plan to start taking people to court. Also a plan to start holding counter meetings with downlines and publishing dissatisfaction surveys..
This can start next week and I will be delighted if OneCoin attend court to explain their schemes.
Finally, one piece of confusion from last night and can Bjorn comment—
Up to septemeber 30th 2016 there was no blockchain and there was a looped video of the same on the back office website.
Is there now a blockchain (why did they want one constructed?). Is this new blockchain the one that he has been testing and is wrong in so many ways .. Which leads to the question why?
Is it to do with coin capacity (123 billion in comparison to 2.1 Billion) and what no of coins are now mined and the consequent liabilities at 10 Euros or whatever per coin. I am terminated since October (obviously a negative opinion leader) andc ant get access into the system
Regards and great work.
Just like cryptokill, I, and probably many others, would be interested in the recording of last night’s webinar.
^^^will be published soon. Someone infiltrated at one point worth a slide of very large penises, which needs to be edited out. You read that correctly.
Perhaps it would be approppriate to leave that penis slide in and just add labels to each penis with the name of one of the top OC ponzi pimps.
Hi Any feedback from post 153.
I am going to put together an Agenda for OneCoiners who want to defect, apologise to their downlines and organise civil claims.
There are a few of you who are similarly inclined so can you post best practice defection based on any pyramid scheme closures you are aware of –including how to optimise claw backs, how to pursue civil suits and how to manage annoyed investors.
The idea is to isolate the uplines and provide pressure(a la Jennifer) and not to let them off but to let them expose the issues they have been hiding. I hope this isn’t naive but if you feel it is a no goer please feel free to express your opinion.
Regards.
Tioday the name of OneLife Facebook-site changed into In To Cryptocurrency!! All Posts about OneLife are taken away! Now they are promoting some Bitcoin-mining club…
The message is that all have been mislead about the potential of Bitcoin, that it is much bigger than was told before. And that is ws not good to focus only on One Coin.
Clearly the promotors of O´ne Coin had their defense prepared already long ago.
They are victims too…
OneCoin is a total waste of brain.
The amount of energy and brainpower which is expended on this worthless facade is grievous–But then again the doubters are no longer doubtful and this is finishing further on a daily basis.
Many of the UK scammers have moved onto Firstcoiun,DazCoin,Giracoin and other schemes and it looks as if Marcello of Macau Blockchain white paper fame is now moving into art shares—Similar to Chartfords?