Trader Agency Review: $100 a month matrix positions
Trader Agency operate in the forex and binary options MLM niche.
The company is headed up by CEO and Founder Dillon Kreider, with a corporate address provided in the US state of Florida.
As per Kreider’s Trader Agency corporate bio;
My struggling quest for financial freedom eventually led me to becoming a full-time forex and binary option trader.
Within the 1rst (sic) year I was able to become profitable and start trading full time.
A lifetime serial entrepreneur I have over 15 years experience in sales & marketing and 13 years experience in network marketing .
I’ve ran several small network marketing companies in the past with moderate success. It was this experience which led to the founding of Trader Agency and inspired me to combine the power of these two industries.
I did try to put together an MLM history for Kreider but there wasn’t much out there.
Kreider (right) launched Matrix Extreme in 2010, which saw affiliates invest $100 into a $1100 ROI two-tier matrix cycler Ponzi scheme.
Back in 2010 it appears Kreider also had a run in with the law:
2 years ago lost my business, family and all assets fought for my life and beat a 25 year sentence ..
Ok 6 months out the joint still clean , still serving god and got my own place, own vehicle, full time job, getting custody of my son in October and starting a business this month. My God loves underdogs!
Other than that, a perusal of Kreider’s Facebook profile reveals he believes himself to have cancer-healing superpowers:
28th of May, 2015
So the Lord put a young lady fighting cancer in my path today, and since I delayed in my response to the Holy Spirits commands ended up chasing her down in the parking lot…
My hands started to burn as I got close to her and I knew what that meant. Meant healing was coming her way ..
So I prayed with her and the Holy Spirit took over and she wept as she received her prayers… But I could have missed that.. Her opportunity for healing, and if I would have continue to delay or not respond, she may have not received it…
When God tells you to do something, we are his Emergency Response Unit… We don’t have time to waste..
Act Now if God says so… Don’t be the guy like me running through the parking lot to catch up to my assignment…
Working on the emergency response unit be prepared for the “sirens” to go off and be ready to suit up and respond as the Lord directs.
That was so far the best part of my day.. Days like that , when one assignment may mean a complete life changing healing and divine experience for someone and allow them to receive what they been praying fervently for…
We are the hands of feet of Christ so be prepared to be used … Don’t know about you but I use my hands and my feet alot…
Make of that what you will, and read on for a full review of the Trader Agency MLM business opportunity.
The Trader Agency Product Line
Products and services listed on the Trader Agency website include:
- Forex Coaching Program ($100 a month) – “access to our live forex trade room where you will have 3-5 hours of live instruction and training”
- Binary Options Coaching Program ($100 a month) – “access to our live Binary option trade room where you will have 3-5 hours of live instruction”
- Traders Market ($99) – “a personalized Estore for traders allowing you to earn additional revenue”
- Training Center ($29.99) – “access to training and educational videos, courses for beginners, intermediate and advanced traders, as well as a digital library” (included with Forex and Binary Options Coaching programs)
- Private 1 on 1 Coaching ($200 an hour) – “you can select any of our coaches you wish to work with and within a couple clicks of a button have your own professional trader in your corner”
The Trader Agency Compensation Plan
The Trader Agency compensation plan sees affiliates purchase $100 positions in a 4×4 matrix, and then get paid to recruit others who do the same.
A 4×4 matrix places an affiliate at the top of the matrix, with four positions directly under them (level 1):
The second level of the matrix is formed by these initial four positions splitting into another four positions each (16 positions).
The third and fourth levels of the matrix are made by the previous level’s positions splitting into another four, resulting in a total 340 positions to be filled.
Positions in the matrix are filled via recruitment of new Trader Agency affiliates, recruited either directly or indirectly by an affiliate’s upline and downline.
Commissions are paid as positions in the matrix are filled as follows:
- level 1 – $25 per position filled ($100 total)
- level 2 – $5 per position filled ($80 total)
- level 3 – $10 per position filled ($640 total)
- level 4 – $36 per position filled ($9216 total)
The compensation documentation on the Trader Agency website states that these are monthly commissions, paid out on the coaching program services ($100 a month).
The matrix positions themselves would appear to be tied to the purchase of either coaching program.
Note that once an affiliate’s 4×4 matrix is filled, they are placed at the top of a new matrix (there doesn’t appear to be a charge for this).
Joining Trader Agency
Affiliate membership with Trader Agency is free, however affiliates appear to have to purchase a $100 subscription in order to participate in the MLM income opportunity.
As such the defacto cost of Trader Agency affiliate membership is then $100 a month.
Conclusion
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say Trader Agency is just a continuation of the $100 Matrix Extreme cycler Dillon Kreider launched in 2010.
Although Matrix Extreme was over two-tiers and Trader Agency only one, the basic concept behind both schemes is the same.
Pay $100 for a matrix position and then recruit others who do the same.
With Trader Agency you only need 340 people in your downline to earn $10,000 a month!
And with 289 in your business center / downline you’ll earn $100,000 a year!
All residual income! Money you continue to earn even if you stopped working!
Then, as long as everyone continues to pay their $100 a month, you get paid.
Retail does appear to be possible but highly unlikely, given affiliates don’t appear to be paid for it. Outside of the matrix “bonuses” are mentioned, but no further information is provided.
As to the coaching offered itself, with the service having nothing to do with Trader Agency’s matrix-based compensation plan, both are neither here nor there.
Ditto the replicated store-front, which appears to just be plugged into an affiliate program offering various third-party products and services to sell.
Any forex, binary options or replicated storefront earnings are independent of the MLM opportunity and matrix-based compensation plan.
Step 1: Build your core tea and break even (this is the first 4 people on your level 1).
Step 2: Help them build their core team.
Step 3: Manage your core team and teach them to follow the same process.
In a nutshell pay $100, recruit four who also pay $100, get them to recruit four, who recruit four, who recruit four etc. etc.
As with all recruitment driven schemes, once recruitment of new affiliates slows down so too will the commissions Trader Agency pays out.
This will result in those at the bottom of the company-wide matrix ceasing to pay their $100 a month fee.
When that happens those above them stop getting paid, meaning they too will also eventually stop paying the fee.
As this effect slowly trickles up the Trader Agency company-wide affiliate genealogy, eventually an irreversible collapse is triggered.
Kreider has likely placed himself at the top of the company-wide matrix, and is realistically probably the only who stands a chance of cycling into a second matrix. And even then he still needs a couple of hundred recruited affiliates to pull it off.
Everyone else is split four ways starting with level 2 of the company-wide matrix, and it only gets worse from there.
Very thorough article. I would like to correct a few things if you don’t mind.
Yes I have launched several “money making programs” in the past , MoneyRevolver.com, PhasesOfWealth.com, MoneyMakersUnited.com, MillionaireMakersUniversity.com, ThePaylines.com, MatrixExtreme.com and some more…
But these were ALL just PROGRAMS. Quick money making programs.
Trader Agency is a business and our products and services is what the company is all about. You hardly mentioned ANYTHING about our team and products and just focused on the payplan.
Our products and services would sell without a MLM opportunity behind it. And I was really hesitant to even include an MLM behind it out of fear it would just cause more harm than good. But I know the power of how fast affiliates can grow a company.
Our dual part payplan ( The 4×4 Matrix + a 4 Tier Uni-level for other product sales ) is an added bonus for traders and affiliates to earn additional income as they learn how to trade forex and binary options.
Trader Agency is NOTHING like Matrix Extreme , or any of the junk “Get Rich Quick Hype” and ‘Cylers” I launched in the past..
And yes I almost was indicted for tax evasion and had some legal issues. I’m only human.. But in the process I was saved and started serving the Lord and yes I believe in healing, and miracles, and everything in the Bible…
I appreciate your article but I want people to focus on our products and will be restructuring our site and landing pages to reflect that.. And our products will also be the reason people stay with us.
So , it doesn’t really matter if some people at the bottom are not making money, they are joining to learn how to trade and make money trading and have the same opportunity to promote and earn additional money if they wish…
But if I just made it a normal affiliate program, than there would be hundreds of clients that did not even have a chance to earn an income whatsoever from our system.
Atleast our current system, a client may get spillover and with 4 sales have his subscription paid in full for FREE and break even…
Thank You
And may God bless you and your family.
Dillon Kreider
Our products speak for themselves.. For $100 a month you are able to watch & copy professional forex & binary option traders LIVE while they trade from their own account with their own money… Teaching you everything you need to know in the process.
And you also gain access to our training center which will be filled with videos, and we will have courses available soon, ranging from beginner to advanced …
During your learning process you open up a business center which is a 4×4 matrix. You break even with just 4 people under you and with a little over 100 people on your team your making $500 a week. The dual compensation plan is an additional benefit to the services we provide …
We plan to add more products in the near future which will be paid out in your “Volume Center”…
Just trying to give everyone a clear understanding of what Trader Agency is all about.. We are NOT A PROGRAM… We are a business.
We don’t sell a product that people would not pay for if there was not an income opportunity behind it … People in our industry are paying for similar services like crazy and paying higher prices..
Just research “Binary Option Signals” … And that’s just for some bogus signals which I haven’t found one which actually works.
Research our coaches and leave some feedback on them as well.. 🙂
Hey Dillon, thanks for stopping by.
Yes, and?
You seem to be confusing marketing with an opportunity review.
Ah ok so there is a unilevel. You might want to better represent this on your website. As it stands it’s pretty much the matrix front and center and nothing else.
Is retail possible, or is everyone who purchases a subscription given a position in the compensation plan?
This is a simple referral sales schemes: I buy something, and if I “refer” enough people who also buy I get paid.
The problem is referral sales scheme are ILLEGAL as they are defacto pyramid schemes.
Mr. Krieder, you may want to consult a MLM Lawyer on the LEGALITY of your comp plan. I’ll refer you to a MLM lawyer’s explanation on what is referral sales, and how your comp plan is virtually indistinguishable from it:
NOLINK://www.mlmlaw.com/law-library/guides-reference/multilevel-marketing-primer/#referral
You sound like you want to do the right thing, but you really should have checked this BEFORE you launch the program.
FWIW, I’m not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV). But then neither are you. Consult one, for real. It’s for your own good (and those of your customers)
@K Chang What your referring too is an affiliate program which is not illegal..
Many companies allow people to “buy something and than refer people and make money”. There is nothing illegal about that..
There is nothing about Trader Agency which is a “scheme” .. Our products have a real value, and will sell even if I remove the MLM platform behind it.. Which is not a ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme.
Although many can argue that MLM in general is, but that debate has already been addressed where I live.
Many of you must be anti-mlm, and for many GOOD reasons, as 90% of the companies in the MLM industry are here today and gone tomorrow. I use to run such sites.
But Trader Agency appeals to a different market. We appeal to inspiring Traders and offer the “Matrix” payplan instead of a normal affiliate plan due it’s potential to reward members even though they may make little to no sales themselves.
It’s really just an added bonus for our clients and for affiliates that prefer to earn more than a traditional payplan..
Customers can also just pay for our training center, or other products and the affiliate will be compensated in our 4 tier uni-level.. Which is paid out in the Volume Center which is listed on our payplan page right under the Business Center compensation plan.
Thank you for the reference to the MLM attorney but I already know of a great MLM attorney ..
@OZ…
I am still updating the site and making needed changes as we go, it’s hard to test the effectiveness of a site until you start marketing it. But I plan to change things around quite a bit.
Just having the words MLM attached to our company is giving us a bad look.
And I hate that because I don’t think there is anything wrong with an MLM plan, it offers the same opportunity to everyone especially if there is a product of real value.
Did you bother reading that link I gave you, or had you already MADE UP your mind that your scheme’s legal and you won’t even THINK about the possibility that you could be wrong?
As I said before, you’re not a lawyer. Ask one and get a real answer.
“If you think you know everything, you’ll learn nothing.” — Epicetus (55-135 AD)
amazing. i was a binary and forex broker for 3 and half years for 3 of the biggest online trading platform out there.
crazy to see a MLM being sieved into it.
i even own a patent for an investment strategy in binary options, where you change your binary outcome of 71% profit vs 93% loss per trade to a 142% profit vs a 23% loss per trade.
Mr. Kreider, just one simple question. If someone signs up, buys a position but never watches your trading demos or accesses any of your training materials but still goes out to recruit X number of people, do they still get paid?
If so, what are they getting paid to do?
Now go ask your MLM attorney what he thinks of that.
@Dillon
Is retail possible, or does everybody who purchases a subscription get a matrix position?
@Glim… If someone signs up and chooses not to use the products than that is there choice.
Of course they could still earn money as an affiliate and they are getting paid to make sales. Just as if you sign up as an affiliate for a forex broker and never make a deposit, you could refer clients and make money.
@Oz, Yes retail is possible… We have 2 payplans..
If you do not sign up for the LIVE coaching you can earn on commissions from sales in our 4 tier uni-level also known as the “Volume Center” .. And, we will probably add an option for people to “opt-out” of the affiliate plan if they want to , which in that case they will not be placed in the matrix.
And their sponsor would earn on the sale in the Volume Center/ Unilevel… But , I don’t see too many people “opting out” of a free position in a matrix which could earn them money even if they don’t promote, or make them money if they happen to recommend our product to a friend or two…
@ Andrew I’m interested in your strategy and wondering why you stopped trading if it was produced such amazing results?
Are you interested in licensing it or selling it through a business platform?
So in effect any such option would be pseudo-compliance, with an overwhelming majority of revenue sourced by Trader Agency being from affiliates.
Throw in recruitment commissions and an MLM business opportunity… and I think it might be time to fire your MLM attorney.
Mr. Kreider, here is the problem with your comp plan, it has, or at least quite possibly could have absolutely nothing to do with retail sales or even end users yet it could pay people for doing nothing more than recruiting more paying members.
What would happen if a bunch of serial pyramid scheme players, you know, the people you catered to before you gave your heart to Christ, bought positions, recruited like heck yet they and the people they brought into your company only cared about the money they could make by signing up new members and never bothered with the forex stuff?
I’ll tell you what would happen and I’ll do it in your own words (and programs):
All over again.
Dillon, please Sir, talk to a legitimate MLM attorney, show them your comp plan and then listen to what they have to say. Then, maybe go pray about it.
If you’ve had a legitimate change of heart, if you’ve devoted yourself to a higher set of principles I don’t want to unfairly impugn you. But if you have you should probably want to get proper legal advice before taking in more people’s money.
And if you still don’t care about legalities and ethical business principles I can think of a bunch of honest Christians who would probably prefer you didn’t used their Lord’s name as part of your sales pitch.
Glim I respect your opinions and trust that I have nothing but the best intentions in mind and at heart for our clients and the affiliates.
However paying members are retail customers and that can be debated.
And I have spent many hours in prayer about this business and can easily make changes to our plan if I see that it’s hindering our overall vision. WHich is to provide quality education to traders.
As I said before I was hesitant about even going with an MLM model because of such the bad wrap and reputation it has. But, I also know the fastest way to spread the word about a product is through affiliates without spending thousands of dollars in advertising.
And, our client base is more interested in the training than the marketing aspects of it. And we’re appealing to traders more so than “pyramid scheme players” as you put it, which if someone is just joining something to benefit from a payplan and recruit, than I’m sure they understand what they are risking and shouldn’t be too let down if they end up not making a ton of money.
I don’t advertise any false promises or offer fake claims. And I am making changes as we go to focus more on our products and services instead of the income opportunity as an affiliate because to be honest a majority of people just hate MLM ..
And starting to think we would do better just listing our company on an affiliate network like Clickbank and paying 50% on overall sales of all our products.
So we have back up plans in store for the future in the event we need to make changes.
And I do care about legalities and ethics and everything I do is for the Lord, even this business will be used to fund good works and pursue my passion in ministry.
We are only a couple weeks into our pre-launch , and have yet to even start accepting payments. I don’t advertise to anyone , that you can join and not sell anything and make money, or get spillover, or use any false , hype at all.
It’s pretty clear what we offer and the benefits of our compensation plan. I do plan on replacing our home page video with some a little less “gimmicky”
Just curious what type of MLM model do you believe in? Or do you believe that all MLM plans are pyramid schemes? Because I was going to go with a binary plan, but that gets more scrutiny and is more of a “game” than our two part plan I did choose.
We have a variety of products offered. And we have a 4 tier unlimited width plan which pays a % on these products even if your not part of the “LIVE coaching of $100 a month” ..
And, if I have been led in the wrong direction I will make the needed changes to ensure we are operating to the full letter of the law.
I respect authority and as a Christian have no interest in “suckering” people out of money. MY real passion is ministry. And if you would like to look at my facebook page like OZ did, feel free to do so.
No matter what MLM plan you go with, the laws circling MLM in USA are and will constantly be evolving and shifting.
If I went with a binary, I get scrutiny, if I went with a Aussie 2-up, I get scrutiny.. Look at Herbalife , which is a legit company in my opinion and still being accused of being a pyramid scheme.
Maybe I’ll charge $10 a month to be a reseller. And than you can earn on “sales” of “retail customers through both of our payplans.
We all know that the US in general is ANTI MLM … So I really don’t think ANY MLM plan would be safe from dealing with scrutiny, especially if it becomes a multi-million dollar company.
Just curious as to what you recommendations would be? And do ANY of you believe that ANY MLM plan is legal?
I have plans to consult with another MLM attorney to get their feedback and will make the needed adjustments as I do care about my clients and members and I really don’t want merging this company with MLM to ruin it’s potential and I don’t think it will although I may need to make some adjustments to the plan..
I’m a pretty open minded and transparent guy. 🙂
I could just make it free to join our affiliate program which pays the same commissions in the matrix payplan on sales made by affiliates .. But , have a separate link at the bottom of site to join as an affiliate.
A separate registration and a separate login area… Which would allow them to earn on the payplans by making sales …
And on the main site , not even advertise the payplan. But just promote the products and, have a link to our affiliate program which takes them to another page advertising the “affiliate opportunity”
Even taking these measures , any matrix plan , or ANY MLM plan for that matter that has a good amount of success will come under scrutiny in the US .. That is just how it goes.
So the next best solution would be either drop MLM altogether, or move offshores.
Dillon where did you position yourself in your matrix?
I appreciate suggestive criticism and feedback.
I’m the company so of course I am at the top of it.. But, you can check on Money Makers Group and see my signature promotes another members link.
As it really doesn’t matter who is making sales in the company to me, I want to see my team prosper and my clients happy …
And as soon as I have our URL rotator operational I will use it to rotate through all our active members site URLS in our ad campaigns after launch.
When you launch an MLM using any software the company is always at the top. That is just the way ALL software is coded… And don’t really see what difference it makes..
Starting to think this site should be called AgainstMLM.com lol… As I’m trying to be as honest and open minded as possible but seem to be getting hit from all sides.
You can have commission play and even MLM… you simply can’t require a buy-in (buy the product to join). That turns the whole comp plan into pay-to-play.
And you also can’t make those who buy-in get a better deal. That’s what killed Burnlounge.
As we’ve said many times, consult a real MLM attorney for some honest advice, as you aren’t likely to listen to a couple strangers who sounds like they just hate your or your business. But you should listen to real experts, and they’d have real advice on how you can FIX your comp plan to make it legal.
After all, YOU will be paying for them… whether it’s now… or later when FTC/SEC knocks on your door.
A rotator to recruit? What’s the rotator purpose?
If said “members” are affiliates then they are not retail customers. That is not debatable.
If your MLM opportunity doesn’t have significant retail activity taking place, then you’re probably doing something you shouldn’t be.
@ YO – A rotator will just rotate through our affiliates websites as we advertise the main company website. So when someone goes to TraderAgency.com they actually land on membername.traderagency.com
Just rotates through the members…
@Oz — I agree with much of what you guys are saying..
And as I mentioned before if I remove the payplan page and info about the “income opportunity” form the main site, and focus it on our products and services, with maybe a small section or link which affiliates can click that bring them to another page advertising the “income opportunity” , and if they want to sign up as an affiliate it would be a separate login area like a campaign manager used with common affiliate programs.
Than all sales they generated could still be paid using the matrix & unilevel hyrbid plan, but a significant of our client base would be retail customers only and not affiliates .. This would solve the problems , don’t you think?
As our products have REAL value, and we’re not just pushing a bundle of worthless ebooks, or some lame marketing courses.
Buyers in our industry are already paying for similar services from other companies at higher prices and of less quality
How do company with binary plans which require you to have a PSV of X amount which is normally the monthly product on autoship and also require you to have 2 paid referrals or word it like $200 in GSV
How do companies like this get by?
Think it’s almost easier just operating your MLM offshores in an MLM friendly country …
ANd than you don’t have to worry about the regulators coming after you , which they only do if you start making millions.
If your not successful they don’t care what you got going on. As soon as there are some assets to seize, than your on the radar.
If that’s what happens.
If the majority of your customers are affiliates, then the issue remains unaddressed.
MLM companies with healthy retail sales have nothing to fear from US regulators.
@ OZ Is it really necessary to post info from my personal post on Facebook here.
I can understand some of the background info which I can direct you to “company related’ info on the web if you would like. But putting my “meant to be personal” posted for my facebook friends on here is bit harsh don’t you think?
Is the MLM research on the company and opportunity or on me? I can see if I was a known scam artist, but blasting info about my faith and be somewhat criticizing it seems to completely unrelated to the topic whatsoever.
And I don’t believe I have any “Cancer healing superpowers” But I do believe that God does and that he is able to heal anyone.
But what does anything on my facebook profile have to do with the Trader Agency opportunity.. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed.)
I believe there’s a setting for that on Facebook.
If you something out in the public domain, it’s public.
The opportunity, which you’re a part of. The amount of information on you personally versus Trader Agency should make that obvious.
I’m just saying when doing research you should make accurate findings before making assumptions like , Millionaire Makers University being a teambuild FGX express or whatever you put there.
I am in no way shape or form connected to them , and if they were a SCAM company that would make me look bad, and is simply false. Where did you even get that assumption from?
I have a picture of the header on my Facebook profile saying it was one of my old business sites, and other than a record on archive.org/web/ there is no info on the web of it as far as I know…
If you want proper research , please list facts and not assumptions based on reading my facebook wall.
Thank You
Have you googled “Millionaire Makers University” lately?
I just did … But I owned that domain over 5 years ago..
So, because I had a pic posted on my facebook wall with the commment “This use to be one of my old headers to an “old” business site” , does not mean that by googling the name will give you accurate information.
I can appreciate what you do hear man.. Your providing a service which is meant to protect people from joining scam sites which sadly a majority of these online money making programs calling themselves MLM companies are nothing but “money making programs” they create a payplan first than make a product to try and make it legal..
So I can appreciate what your doing here. I just felt it was sort of low blow, by posting info on my FB page.
Would you like to also inform your readers that I had twin babies that died which just had a birthday, and was raised dirt poor in a broken home with an abusive father.
Will that make any difference on the Trader Agency Opportunity.. I am only human, but I have enough experience in the industry to run a successful commpany.
As that was all listed on my wall as well and attacking me personally is not discerning the judgement of the opportunity. What does my faith or past mistakes non business related have to do with me running a company?
I owned MillioanireMAkersUniversity.com in 2010
That’s why I wrote:
Fair enough call that you’re not involved in the current use of the name. I’ll modify the review to reflect that.
Not really. Having kids isn’t something I’d consider worth mentioning in an MLM review.
Cancer-healing superpowers though? Yeah, I thought that rated a mention.
a-l-l-e-g-e-d-l-y. and you’re abusive? who knew? and why is any of it relevant?
Same reason my reference to my faith was relevant to the review.
Also, I have not placed MYSELF at the top of the matrix.. And the company will not “re-enter” or start a new business center.
I am at the top because I am the company, but I do not HAVE A POSITION IN the matrix. I have no need to have an affiliate account myself as I own the company
So I appreciate you adjusting your review. But please can you correct this again..
I was answering a question to a user who asked where I was placed in the company. I am at the top because I am the company..
However I do not have an affiliate position, nor will I re-open another business center.
Just for your information… Affiliates who fill a business center will get the option to open a new business center once their matrix is full. It’s more of a manual process , I know it says you automatically start a new position , but you will actually need to manually open your next business center.
And the company will not own positions in the matrix at all.
This is not a cycler, this is a matrix payplan which allows you to have multiple positions once your business center is full. This is not some re-cycling matrix , or cycler.
And I do not have a personal position in the matrix.. It seems your reviews are more negative than just a “review”…
I didn’t reference your faith, I referenced your claim to have cancer-healing superpowers.
The top of the matrix is a position in the matrix, which you own. Come on son…
You buy a position in the matrix, fill it and then enter another matrix. Of course it’s a cycler, albeit a very big one.
@ whip I was raised in a dirt poor home with an abusive father, and had twin babies that died, and it’s not relevant, neither was the info regarding my beliefs and faith in the power of God but that seemed to be relevant enough to post in a review, (My Faith).
So Whip.. I was asking whoever owns this blog Mr. Oz that since he browsed my Facebook profile and listed my post’s regarding my faith and personal experiences ( which doesn’t seem relevant to begin with), and even cropped a family picture I had with my wife and son at Easter and then posted that instead of using the profile pic on my FB page or website; why not list the other personal post about my twin babies that died, and other information about my personal life…
You don’t think it’s relevant, and neither do I .. But somehow my post on facebook about my faith is ..
It is what it is… I wish all the best.. May god bless you.. If your so concerned about avoiding scams, I recommend you just pursue a different industry …
Ok so where would recommend the company place themselves starting an MLM with ANY plan?
The only spot for the company is at the top
A company have a position at the top of the plan is only a problem if commissions are primarily derived via recruitment (including defacto “only affiliates are making purchases” recruitment).
I only took issue with you claiming not to have a position in the matrix. That is blatantly not true.
I was simply stating that I don’t have a “personal position” in the matrix. Which some companies reserve the top couple of levels for the company itself..
I am at the top, but do not have a “personal position” which when I was asked by another person, He asked me “Where did you place yourself in the matrix” and I answered him accordingly.
If he knew anything about MLM software he would know that any company hosting a matrix payplan is obviously at the top of such payplan.
The company is position #1 as in EVERY single company that has a matrix payplan.. Any earnings I make generated from the matrix position itself will either be paid out in bonuses for contest and or a variety of charities..
As the company will make enough profit from our satisfied clients for me not to worry about having earnings coming in from the actual matrix position and will most definately use them for bonuses or/and donating to charities..
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
We are still in pre-launch, a beta-launch.
Cool, but you do have a position in the matrix. However you wish to describe it is up to you.
Except that many of our subscriber base will be using the products and services as clients and people will not be dropping out because they are not making money from the affiliate program.
So since our companies pride and joy is our products, which offer real value it will not see a collapse rate once recruiters stop being able to recruit, because clients will still remain paying for the product and earning commissions for the affiliates which referred them/ sold them their subscription…
And reaching a couple hundred paying retail clients will not be an issue, atleast people will be able to be compensated for generating sales and earn an income they can use for trading, instead of trading with their own personal income.. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
So you predict…
(Ozedit: Offtopic spam removed, opportunity reviews are not for discussing MLM compensation plans in general)
You can now become a member of Trader Agency for a one time fee of $105. We have changed our payplan model and now provide a hybrid, to offset the cost and also provide a larger earning potential for associates.
As a member you will gain access to both of our LIVE trade rooms, the binary option & forex rooms. Here you will receive 6-10 hours of LIVE training and coaching daily.
You will also gain access to our Traders Library which holds all training sessions in video, as well as courses, books and other digital content we add to help you further your career as a trader.
You are not required to market the business program and we welcome anyone to compare our services for the price range we offer them.
You will not find anyone in the binary option / forex education industry providing 6-10 hours of LIVE training for a one time fee. Hopefully you will allow this post to stay on your page Oz.
We are working on adding a separate affiliate program which enables you to join for free and earn 50% on all customer retail sales only.. This is just taking a little extra time, as we have to have customization done for this.
But, we will accept retail customers if you prefer just to sign up as a customer for a monthly fee of $69.99 and will also allow free affiliates to earn 50% on “Retail Customers” only…
We encourage all to join our business program as it provides a way to benefit from all our services without paying a monthly subscription.
But we understand many are not good with marketing and is why we teach you how to trade the markets. So you can learn to earn income without sales, marketing or running a business.
@Dillion is the 4×4 matrix-based comp plan still in play? If so then this is still a $100 a pop chain-recruitment scheme.
No we do not have the 4×4 matrix anymore.
Well that’s a start then.
Our changes now allow members to gain access to 6-10 hours of LIVE forex and binary option training at a huge discount.
Our plan is now designed to reward our strong affiliates and if you don’t want to promote the business, you can either pay a smaller monthly subscription fee (working on implementing this part) , or you can join as normal and upgrade into both payplans in sequence and save a lot of money..
We may be forced to put further steps in action if we face any regulatory actions. But all in all, I believe people will be happy with the services we provide for the price they are paying.
Just the access to our “Traders Library” is worth the initial enrollment cost, much less the 6-10 of live training by our team of seasoned pro’s..
As the owner I can tell you I’m spending 3x our asking price “DAILY” to pay our coaches. So to be able to pass that on for a one time fee is well worth it.
So are you still using MLM or have you gone single-level affiliate?
Will be offering both actually.
A. You can join as a customer and pay a monthly fee
B. You can join as an associate and promote the MLM side or just sign up this way to benefit from savings ( however we may put “sales requirements” in place to redirect customers only to be customers only
C. You can join as an affiliate and refer customers and earn 50% on direct sales
We are still configuring the plan to allow A & C , as it requires customizations but should be ready by launch or very shortly thereafter.
OZ I would greatly appreciate if you removed the review of Trader Agency being it never launched and no need for a review or at the very least edit and remove some of the personal information you pulled from my Facebook page.
Could you please honor this request?
Or at least email me to discuss the terms of getting it removed
A scam collapsing != “hur hur we never launched.”
Surely you can explain to people why you thought you could heal cancer?
It never collapsed as you know I never launched because we could not get things in place, I could have launched and easily made money and shut down if I was a scam artist.
I ran Webokane and it didn’t work out and I ended up shutting it down, and you can search and you won’t find one complaint.
I’m not a scam artist , and I would greatly appreciate if you would email me to discuss terms of removing this.
And, again I do not believe I can heal cancer, it is common Christian belief to believe that prayer can bring healing . Trader Agency was in a pre-launch phase with payplan and product/service line being adjusted as you put this review up.
I’m just kindly asking you to work with me , and willing to discuss terms via email for the removal or editing my personal facebook information.
If you want to leave it up , that is fine.
I’m not sure what the issue is.
You had a Trader Agency website up and compensation plan publicly available.
As for Webokane, it was a pyramid scheme. You running it makes you a scammer.
Are you no longer Christian? How did you know the woman you “healed” had cancer?
How do you know chasing down and feeling up some poor woman in a carpark healed her of anything?
If you’re embarrassed because you made the whole “healing cancer” thing up, just say so and I’ll add a note.
Otherwise this is a review of Trader Agency. Anyone doing their due-diligence into it at the time would have wanted to know the admin sounded loony.
Because the woman told me she had cancer, and my post speaks about “missing the opportunity to pray for someone” , and I ran down to catch her to pray for her..
That was personal info , not a review. In any event, the company never operated. You will see NOT ONE complaint about me on the web, if I was a scammer and the 1000 or so members of Webokane , don’t you think at least ONE of them would have filed a complaint.
Do I have to pay you what you charge for advertising to remove private info about my life that you copied from my facebook page? Because, I’d be willing to pay you what you charge advertisers to remove it if that is how you operate.
I’m trying to be civil and work with you but it appears you can care less .
I care about the accuracy of the information in the review.
Whether your victims bothered to complain is neither here nor there. Both Webokane and Trader Agency were scams. You running scams makes you a scammer.
Your “personal” info ceased being personal the second you made it publicly available on Facebook.
As I previously stated, I included your excerpts from Facebook as they provide insight into the person behind Trader Agency.
If I was potentially getting into business with someone who was running around the internet claiming they can heal cancer, I’d want to know.
The review is date-stamped and based on publicly available information about Trader Agency’s business model and compensation plan at the time.
If you want to point out any inaccuracies, I’ll address them. Otherwise we’re done here.
And keep your money. Not interested.
I thought that business would sustain itself from products alone.Guess not.
@ YO – Trader Agency never launched and was never even in business , so the review was pointless. We were in a pre-launch /development stage and were not even accepting payments.
Normally reviews are done on companies that are in business , or have at least started accepting sign ups. And, as for Webokane that was completely different story .
@ OZ — YOU are and were the ONLY person calling me a scammer , not ONE of the 1000 or so paid customers of Webokane filed ONE complaint or ever accused me of scamming anyone.
You blast my “business credentials” and connect them with my personal prayer life? My prayer life has ZERO to do with my business ability.
If you cared about the accuracy of the information in your review , you would have included our Products and Services in the review , and not just the “possible payplan we were considering”.. (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Mate anyone who runs pyramid schemes is a scammer.
Whether your victims filed complaints against you is irrelevant.
If the person running an MLM business I was thinking of joining was running around on Facebook claiming to heal cancer, I’d want to know.
I did, in the products section. Maybe try healing your eyes?