ITP Corp Review: 4% a day “business miracles” Ponzi
Intelligent Technology Pioneer Corporation, or ITP Corp, fails to provide ownership or executive information on their website.
ITP Corp’s website domain (“itpro.top”), was first registered in 2018. The private registration was last updated on May 26th, 2023.
Pinning down when ITP Corp launched is difficult.
ITP Corp’s YouTube account was created in 2018. Videos on the channel however are only backdated to November 2022.
This matches ITP Corp’s Telegram channel. The channel was created in 2018 but has been wiped dating back to November 2022.
From this was can surmise the current iteration of ITP Pro launched in November 2022.
On its website ITP Corp claims it “was established in Seattle, USA in 2013”.
In an attempt to support that claim, ITP Corp provides a shell company certificate for ITP Corporation.
ITP Corp was purportedly incorporated in Washington on November 18th, 2022.
Due to the ease with which scammers are able to incorporate shell companies with bogus details, for the purpose of MLM due-diligence shell incorporation in any jurisdiction is meaningless.
As to who’s running ITP Corp, if we look at ITP Pro’s website source-code we find Chinese:
This strongly suggests whoever is running ITP Corp has ties to China. Typically this means they are operating out of Asia (mainland China, Hong Kong or Singapore).
As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
ITP Corp’s Products
ITP Corp has no retailable products or services.
Affiliates are only able to market ITP Corp affiliate membership itself.
ITP Corp’s Compensation Plan
ITP Corp affiliates invest funds on the promise of advertised returns.
- LV1 – invest $100 to $500 and receive 2.5% a day
- LV2 (must recruit 5 affiliates) – invest $600 to $2000 and receive 2.8% a day
- LV3 (must recruit 20 affiliates) – invest $2000 to $5000 and receive 3.1% a day
- LV4 (must recruit 45 affiliates) – invest $5000 to $49,999 and receive 3.3% a day
- LV5 (must recruit 90 affiliates) – invest $50,000 to $200,000 and receive 3.6% a day
- LV6 (must recruit 150 affiliates) – invest $250,000 to $500,000 and receive 4% a day
Recruited affiliates must have invested to count towards the above criteria.
Note that ITP Corp’s charges withdrawal fees based on how much an affiliate has invested:
- LV1 and LV2 tier affiliates pay a 7% withdrawal fee
- LV3 and LV4 tier affiliates pay a 6% withdrawal fee
- LV5 and LV6 tier affiliates pay a 5% withdrawal fee
The MLM side of ITP Corp pays on recruitment of affiliate investors.
ITP Corp pays referral commissions on daily returns paid out down three levels of recruitment (unilevel):
- level 1 (personally recruited affiliates) – 12%
- level 2 – 4%
- level 3 – 2%
Joining ITP Pro
ITP Pro affiliate membership is free.
Full participation in the attached income opportunity requires a minimum $100 investment.
ITP Pro Conclusion
ITP Pro represents it generates revenue via broken English nonsense;
Since its establishment, ITP Corporation has continuously increased the share in the global cryptocurrency investment of market, constantly refreshing the best results in history, and creating business miracles one after another.
With the mature application of global 4G technology and the advent of 5G technology, it has accelerated the promotion and coverage of blockchain technology and cryptocurrency investment wave on a global scale.
It’s likely this is AI generated waffle.
In any event, ITP Pro’s business model fails the Ponzi logic test.
If ITP Pro was able to legitimately generate 4% a day, what do they need your money for?
On the regulatory front, ITP Pro’s passive investment opportunity constitutes a securities offering.
If we ignore ITP Pro is being run by Chinese scammers, being based out of the US requires ITP Pro to register with the SEC.
A search of the SEC’s Edgar database reveals ITP Pro is not registered with the SEC.
Why would ITP Pro commit securities fraud and opt to operate illegally?
Because they’re running a Ponzi scheme.
As with all MLM Ponzi schemes, once affiliate recruitment dries up so too will new investment.
This will starve ITP Pro of ROI revenue, eventually prompting a collapse.
The math behind Ponzi schemes guarantees that when they collapse, the majority of participants lose money.
Update 25th November 2023 – ITP Corp has collapsed.
I just got pitched this and just been a zoom and could not believe all the spew that was being going. People actually thought they will become rich.
The person leading the call was UK ambassador Mack Subedar, think he said he’s from Coventry or Leicester. I’m from Nottingham so would love to pay him a visit and give him my 2 pence worth!! Bloody scammer.
He was more than enticing people showing him earning $10k a day.
One person even said they are putting their last $100 into and he said ‘you won’t regret it’…
Don’t fall for it people…
This review raises some interesting questions.
I hope there are explanations for these concerns because I have been an ITP member for just over a month and have made over £3000 profit :/
The explanation is ITP Corp is a Ponzi scheme. How much you’ve stolen through it is neither here nor there.
I’ve been doing it for 2 months and have not referred anyone. Don’t you have to refer people to make money in a Ponzi scheme?
If you Google mack subedar, first thing comes up is his Facebook bio in Chinese.
ITP Corp is a Ponzi scheme because newly invested funds are used to pay withdrawals.
Whether you personally recruit your victims or someone else does is irrelevant to ITP Corp being a Ponzi scheme.
Nick. Most people are encourage to recruit. On Mack’s call he showed he was earning 10k a day because he recruited so many people.
When the recruiting stops. Excuses will happen. Hack, wallet updates etc etc
Mack is currently being reported to local authorities and HMRC
His profile is here:
facebook.com/mack.subedar
He is the master distributor for UK
NO DOUBT HE WILL REMOVE HIS PAGE ONCE PEOPLE START SEEING THIS!!
You earn from this. Karma will get you or your family in some way shape or form…
It’s really good I came across this article and I want to leave a comment
My wife works at a hospital in Hong Kong. She was invited to an event and I went also with her.
This company promoting this income opportunity to around 250 to 300 people. The presentation was conducted by 2 18 year old and 1 24 year old.
Hong kong people have seen too many of these scams and everyone and I mean everyone walked out of the hall . It was really quite funny and the presenters seemed shock.
A journalist there has also said these events are being investigated as too many people are getting scammed.
This isn’t a Ponzi or mlm, you don’t need to recruit, (Ozedit: snip see below)
@David
ITP recycling investor funds to pay withdrawals is what makes it a Ponzi scheme.
Whether you personally recruit the people you steal money from is not a determining factor.
Someone tried to recruit me, after the first couple sentences I knew it’s some scheme, tried to tell them as they are actual acquaintances, but they didn’t believe me.
Now they have recruited about 20 ppl, they have whatsapp group where they all circlejerk about “becoming rich in a year”.
And I’m just waiting for the day when it all goes down, so I can type to all of them “Didn’t I say so?”
@The BoogerMan
I am in a telegram group, and it’s the same. They think they will be millionaires this time next year. It really is funny but sad.
The 3 admins of the group go on about bringing new people in everyday and its the best thing you can do. I stopped commenting about it being a ponzi otherwise I will get kicked out. So, i just read them and watch.
When it does impload, they will automatically close the group and move to the next scam.
Wow i dont think their is people on here that doses understand what ponzi sheme actually means.
Because quantative trading … (Ozedit: snip, see below)
1. ITP Corp is a Ponzi scheme because it recycles newly invested funds to pay withdrawals.
2. Quantative trading has nothing to do with ITP Corp’s business model. If you want to assert otherwise, feel free to provide audited financial reports filed with regulators.
Not saying this isn’t a scam, but after doing a bit of research on this Mack guy I’ve found that he’s a CEO whom has donated to multiple charities over the last few years.
Donating to charity doesn’t make you a scammer. Promoting a Ponzi scheme like ITP Corp does.
There’s no need to defame something based on assumptions, ultimately it is helping, it is paying and it is allowing us to pay bills and feed our families.
The risks are high but the gains are nice with everything that’s going on with inflation, ITP is a blessing.
No need for assumptions and truth is the ultimate defense against defamation.
The fact of the matter is legally you have no right to steal through a Ponzi scheme to “pay bills and feed your families”. Stop making excuses for fraud.
When ITP Corp inevitably collapses, people to poor to pay bills and feed their families will be first in the “hOw Do I gEt My MoNEy BaCk?” line.
Nadia, unfortunately you are one of the sheep trapped in this scam.
As a Muslim, this form of ‘investment’ is haram based purely on the fact it is a pyramid scheme and therefore illegal – investing or contributing to the scheme therefore is unlawful in Islam.
As explained in the article and by other comments, the leaders demand the need to recruit to show that the system relies on investor funds to function so they can pay the rest of the party (i.e pyramid pyramid).
How this works is the money people deposit to ITP is shared out to people in the pyramid.
There is no such quantitative trading going on. Where is the proof of the transactions? Are we really that naive to think, without this proof, that our money is being traded just because an AI is generating some text to say this?
Every exchange would show receipts or transaction details of every trade, ITP does not. It is a gimmick that the less learned have fallen for.
Let’s not forget the dodgy documents and history of this company which are all laughable really when they keep mentioning it in their zoom calls.
Just a heads up, they have been reported to many authorities to stop them from scamming, so the sooner you stay away, the sooner you can get withdraw your money out of this.
Once the recruiters dry up, and there’s no more money pumping in to the system,it will die as always and your funds will be lost.
Why doesn’t everyone start praying that all turns out good and we all can be debt free … (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Because math > praying.
Sorry for your loss.
Quite funny. I got added to a telegram group with promoters of this company. Today they were focused getting 5 new members weekly. It’s a must. At the same time 3 members have not had their withdrawals from a week ago.
Clearly an illegal ponzi. I don’t want to comment otherwise I will get booted out while I’m enjoying my popcorn
@nadia your earnings are some poor families loss. Karma is horrible it will be taken away from you in some way shape or form 10 fold.
Stay away people. Get your money out asap…
Company dissolved yesterday, not looking good.
So who actually runs this scheme? Mack?
Read the review.
Mack is way up there, he has direct access to the people conducting this scam. He knows its a scam.
The guys shows off his earnings on live zooms. Have you noticed how he tells everyone to recruit and recruit if you want to earn 5 – 10k a day. He is Master Affiliate for UK.
If you’ve lost money with this, you can find Mack Mills on Facebook. If you report you can send him to receivership and get your money back.
This is not a scam u break rules ye get kicked out.
I’ve been here 6 months I’ve had a I phone 14 pro max & im withdrawing every 3 days.
All Ponzi schemes are scams.
Whether you got in early and have been stealing money through ITP Corp is irrelevant to it being a Ponzi scheme.
@John
Receivership unlikely unless there’s a US corporate structure to seize.
It would be better to pray for the wisdom to heed warnings and red flags about ponzi scams and to avoid them.
..Hassan
It’s people with poor mindsets where you think you can earn 2.5% a day by clicking on an app. The scammers control and prey on gullible people like you.
If it’s so great, why don’t they register and accept USD/EUR/GPB… because its traceable and accounts get frozen! They tell you crypto because they can hide it from authorities.
Quick quick…. don’t forget to tell your friends and family. This time next year we will be millionaires!!!
Ponzi = Theft.
Every major religion has a red flag on that one. It’s universally illegal.
If you don’t suffer in this world as a result, you will in the next. So you’ve been told.
You can no more suspend the laws of basic mathematics nor economics by appealing to a higher power who has forbidden you from doing what you now want that higher power to bless as a consequence of your own free will.
Rather pray that your children grow up smarter than you.
I was pitched this by a work colleague and I instantly said no. It’s obviously a scam. About 8 people I work with have joined. They now have a cult kind of attitude.
They get very defensive when I ask certain questions…. It’s actually quite funny.
One search on google and I find this.
Great article.
Was recruited by a pal who said all his work colleagues are doing it.
I thought it was ponzi at first so shrugged him off but he kept pushing me to invest. Invested around £400 and did the tap for about 3 weeks. Took £380 and left whatever was left in the account.
So I now have little risk, I don’t trust it but I’ve not been scammed yet.
Shame about the people you’re stealing from. Not that you seem to care.
Huh? How did you work that out
I could have read that wrong but you’re continuing to build an account with the hope of eventually withdrawing other people’s money?
How is this allowed and how is this still running and available on Play Store?
the ITP site now features a picture of some morons from Liverpool UK, holding a banner with ITP logo and cliché slogan on it. Wondering if it’s real or photoshop.
If real, there are a lot of gullible idiots in this world, I am not surprised people build full apps to make money off of them.
Seems like a get rich scheme, easily, but only for the developer 🙂
I unfortunately fell for this scam. Hands up! They blocked my account and all access to my funds because my housemate also invested I The same IP address
They now won’t release my funds.
On Monday morning I will be repairing them to my local trading standards and further more action fraud.
It’s a blatant scam everyone. Please please don’t put your money here.
I reported it to Google, today I got the email from their team, they said “they have investigated the issue and taken actions”.
I checked google play store – app is gone ladies and gentlemen 🙂
Good Job Chobson.
Apple I thought would be easy, but I have fallen on deaf ears. I will keep trying.
Saving one person from this scam, is a job well done.
@Darren
I rang Apple today. In the 30 min phonecall, the first guy didn’t take me seriously at all.
I was actually accused of trying to do “Social Engineering” and been told that “it’s highly unusual” for someone to ring and report app like this.
Man told me that the only way to report it is to install it and click report…
I sent chat request, to hopefully get through to someone smarter. The chat guy said I’ll get a call.
Another person called, this guy did take me seriously, took the link to the app, took the link to this site and said he will escalate but said they can’t provide updates.
He did say thought that if it’s deemed as scam, it will be taken down within hours. So, let’s watch.
The ITP Downloads section on their website has already one dead link to Android app. I hope I have taken the cunts down today. If so, it is a good day.
Interesting that Google took action. They need to be more responsive to Ponzi apps given the rise of Google Play/Apple Store available apps.
ITP Pro are covering it up as “maintenance”.
On their website? Or do they have some social media chanels?
Telegram group. Covered it in latest article.
Got it. Just checked the Polish ITP telegram group. It’s literally copy/paste of the English version, with google translation on top 🙂
If the Apple pulls the rug for them today – will they say that iOS app also in maintenance for next 10 days? 😀
Hey hat tip to Chobson for taking the initiative and pursuing the matter. He/She deserve all the credit.
Well done @Chobson. If what you are saying is true, you have done a great deed.
Let’s hope they cant get their app back somehow but I have a feeling it will be easy to make a new app and spread it. The whole business needs to go!
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How much longer do you guys think until the guy at the top decides to pull the rug and run away with everyones money?
Because as of right now people are still managing to withdraw and make money using this app.
Ponzi schemes allow withdrawals until they don’t. It’s entirely up to the admin when they decide to collapse and disappear.
It’ll happen when new suckers dry up. Trying to pin down an exact date is folly.
I just paid 100$, wondering what happens next…
What happens next is numbers on a screen.
If enough new people join after you you’ll steal their money and sorry for their loss.
If not, sorry for your loss.
I trade and have been trading for 8 plus years. I can tell you now that trading between exchanges (Arbitrage) is impossible.
So today I got pitched and my friend show her trades on the back office. Then I showed real time exchanges Coinbase and Binance and proved it was impossible with their prices. The prices were so far out proved this ponzi is staged!!! She has since called it a day ….
Arbitrage is impossible within exchanges.
Do you still hold this belief ?
Once they start announcing server upgrades and start receiving fraud warnings, possibly after introducing new plans, locking all accounts for one month while the new plans fall into place, thereafter possible allegations of being hacked, etc, all while draining the investor wallets of their funds.
Also withdrawals are not really withdrawals because they will stop eventually, once everyone realizes too late that they are in a ponzi.
A mate of mine got involved and he was trying recruit friends and family. Managed to talk him out of that but hes still got his money in..
i told him not to put anymore in but there is only so much you can do and say.
I think ITP are ramping up the money grab – I overheard two people in the Gym talking about ITP and this guy was saying they are being promised 21k back in a month if they put/leave in 4 to 5k.
The rug will be pulled sooner rather than later i think.
Oh yes, the Android App was supposed to be back in 10 days 🙂
They will start all sorts of bonuses now. The exit will be as you say, either a long string of upgrades or “we got hacked” announcements so they can keep leading people on (as those in it are so gullible, they will swallow everything) or they will do brutal rug pull and just cease all comms.
My son has fallen for this, he is trying to get ne to do it. I told him about the reviews, the comments, the similar url websites but lack of transparency and he is highly defensive, saying you all are liars.
I guess people who have fallen for scams do not like to be shown the truth.
I will not be wasting my money on this. Thanks for all the comments and wisdom above.
This was being talked about at the mosque today. One the scholars told a group of lads not to be so ridiculous.
He told them that’s its a pure ponzi scheme. It will be stolen money they think its profit. Its HArram money.
The emphasis is on bringing new people in. Which is why they have a tier system, the more people you bring in the more you earn. It entices you to tell friends and family.
There is no such company in the world that can make 2.5% per day continually 365 days a year, if that were the case then why don’t the borrow from banks and pay 7-10% back in a year instead of 2.5% a day (912%) a year.
But instead they take it from private individuals, they won’t be able to trace the owners as they don’t show faces. Its in crypto so it doesnt enter the banking system so ‘their’ bank accounts can’t be frozen.
Once he was explaining it, it made really good sense.
Its run by organised crime syndicates.
I for one will be going nowhere near any of this.
Thanks for the article.
Don’t give up BobDog – just ask him at least to keep reading up about it and to keep checking comments here at least.
Ask him to keep an open mind to the possibility of it being a scam – show him some other scam reviews from here, they’re almost carbon copies.
Ask him why Youtube comments are disabled and how the TG announcement channel gets 40k likes/smilies almost straight away after the post is made.
Ask him to go and check the exchanges as he clicks the button so he can see the trades are not happening. The app shows leverage and arbitrage trading at the same time which isn’t a thing.
The best time to make a trade is not when a button is clicked, it’s not how arbitrage trading works.
New announcement on their Telegram. What does it actually mean? Nobody knows 😉
Probably it’s some kind of ponzi, but this ITP app for sure has connection to crypto stocks.
There is history of what you’re “investing” in when u click this magical blue button. I checked 5 positions and… calculations are correct (i mean buy and sell prices), and with financial leverage it is highly possible to earn.
The only problem is you never know when they’re gonna pull the plug out…
Sounds like a non-native English speaker trying to manipulate gullible investors into a false sense of security.
The inevitable Ponzi math is coming…
@Bart
It’s easy to set up an app to provide investors will believable trading data.
The question is, if ITP Corp was actually generating revenue via trades – what do they need your money for?
Also why commit securities fraud and operate illegally?
Answer = Ponzi scheme.
Wll proove me wrong but if they work in 50 – 50 model, i mean 50% for you and 50% for them, every additional user gives them additional cash.
This isn’t how legitimate financial businesses are run. Audited financial reports or Ponzi.
It does look like a scam following all comments are made.
Have you noticed, if you disagree with any of the ITP participants they get so angry and try and degrade you just because you do not follow the crowd.
They are so far gone and lost in this scheme l, typical pyramid scheme behaviour.
I have tried to withdraw some money now my app won’t work it keeps saying error:500.
Guys, I have friends put their money in to try this ITP out. This is not the first time and is still live that you’ll see how ponzi works.
It’s got a lot of names across the world surely but bear with me. Ofcourse no one from the other pond accepts it as ponzi or as a MLM or as a binary or multilevel networking. But the pattern it takes for the money to come back to you is how you will differentiate if it truly is.
No product is sold and no clear trace of trade is exchanged confirming a legit business and you get a daily interest.
Imagine the fact that you get your money back simply by clicking a button everyday. That trading or quantize’ing if such a term is actually doing transaction without really seeing the details through.
Did it actually write a blockchain trace that such action is recorded thus merits the daily interest?
As a beginner and only thinks and expects their money is growing, they don’t care anymore how the inner workings or the technicalities of these clicks go.
It is enough to enjoy like in level 1 which is between $100 – $500, you get 2.5% daily interest. They put faith in it that it is doing legit and as long as they get the daily interest.
They can’t wait to withdraw the original deposited money back perhaps leave the rest to grow further.
From a user that’s already in it, it is not enough to say this is a scam as it’s actually not saying what it does to the ITP quantized or morally causing a steal to someone’s account.
The gray area here is what should be clearly explained in order to provide informed decision to everyone instead of just saying ‘scam’ or ‘ponzi’.
Everyone is told to put some money in and the promise of daily interest which is happening so where’s the scam in that?
It looks legit in their eyes, right? What should be understood is the daily interest rate is not taken from the so good crypto investments of these daily clicks but rather from the new money in (USDTs) of the new users after you.
Note the crypto world tracking is not doing well these days and ITP is growing with 2.5% daily interest? Open your eyes wide shut.
As long as new users come in and in flocks, the people above the pyramid (Ponzi, right?) will continue to benefit the level awards.
What daily interest pay you get is always coming from the set of new referrals or people that joined after you and never before you and thus the cycle goes.
For users who are in for the money, they can. This only breaks when there will be so much people above the pyramid that no longer can balance out the money coming in against the daily interest to be given.
For a fact, as long as you are READY to lose the money you put in, there’s no scam to this. That’s how the market goes.
This is true anywhere, you lend to a friend who runs away the debt, etc, etc. The facade here is hiding behind the crypto currency perhaps for the people running ITP to be untouchable.
This is run in a global scale so it will take awhile if it ever breaks and perhaps depends in the appetite of the admins when to pull the plug.
So yeah, for new users who joined.. as long as you are happy and ready to lose the money you put. The risks are so high and this whole thing is volatile and not forever.
See, there’s no scam in these explanation, right? You are aware that you put your money in ITP, and expect a daily rate return and wait for it to grow to withdraw or keep it and continue.
Like any business in the world, there’s risks and why is this any different? Why is it called stolen if they are aware now that is what’s happening?
This is though a clear multilevel networking scheme run through crypto currency. Call it anything you like but the pattern is the same.
This is not stolen money but money put in by people in difficult times. Attractive for an easy get rich scheme and people will have opposite opinions but in the end it is important you are aware of what your are doing and your referrals be aware of all this.
ITP may indeed fall but another one will pop up in the future with a different face but the concept will always be the same. You are warned.
Uh… congratulations, you just described a Ponzi scheme.
Because investment is solicited on fraudulent representations. That and Ponzi schemes are illegal the world over.
Thanks for pointing that out. There you go.. ITP represents the business as an ITP quantization and gets the trading through that and leads you to believe the business is stable and growing.
Who knows what’s happening behind these clicks. It is definitely not that will cause the daily interest rate you get.
It is fraudulent because you believe you are doing good business within the crypto world but imagine the users after you are from your family members.. so you are getting profits out of the money they put in.
Just learn a new skill and work harder where you are happy and satisfied. Karma is a real.
Is this Charlie Wildish, the ITP content creator from YouTube who is slowly realising what he’s done? 🙂
When it collapses, thousands of people who have recently joined will have deposited sometimes large amounts of money (ITP recently changed the G1 lvl limit to 20K USD) will lose all that money.
So people who got onto this scam first are not the target of the scam. Those are useful idiots, complicit in the scam, effectively the marketing department of that scam.
The target/victims are the people they invite and the other levels below them. Yes, they will let those people make money because they bring them money.
All those dildos calling themselves “business owners” or “traders” who invite their families and friends, who create videos on youtube or post threads on forums – those are the scammers too.
There is no need to point fingers. No one name is liable to this as it can be as many as they can be.
The important thing is all involved knows what’s coming and so be aware of what’s going to happen. If not all will know how these schemes work, there will still be a lot of new people that will still continue to step in and get wet.
It’s time for people to wake up and be careful on this. There is no such thing as easy money as years before and years from now, the prey is always eaten.
This thread will definitely help all the researchers, analysts, seekers, doubters and believers on what’s going on behind this ITP App or ITP Corp thing.
Hoping search engines will continue to direct to this page to get clearer view about this topic coming most informative and latest.
And no, that’s not me!
Mack Subedar showing off his weekly withdrawals of $20k plus every week does not send this to his UK bank account, he sends the money to other members using USDT, members in turn they give him cash. A lot of members have a hard time buying crypto.
He thinks HMRC don’t have access.
He is 1. Laundering Ill gotten funds. 2. avoiding tax while running this ponzi. Hope he gets investigated!!
On their crappy zoom call now
https://imgur.com/a/Pa08LBJ
The big surprise they were announcing was that they have lowered the age limit from 22 to 18.
Also the app is back on the Play Store.
Never heard of ponzi. A friend recruited me and now I’m invested 1000$ in what actually is an ugly scam. What should I do?
Can’t see the app on the Play Store at all, do you have a link?
You gave cryptocurrency to randoms over the internet through an app. What can you do?
@Arni, that’s not really a friend. He/She is only trying to make commission out of you. No he/she will tell you go and find other victims.
Your money is gone, contact your local trading standards or local police and report it. If you are in the UK report it to the FCA, or your country financial body that regulates investments. This is definitely one big scam.
Whatever you do, dont start inviting your friends and family, you will create a bigger hole!
…Can’t see the app on the Play Store at all, do you have a link?…
@Chobson here is the link to the new app. its different developers. search criteria won’t work as they know it will be taken down by playstore again. I’m sure this will come off soon again. Yet more updates. lol
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.expence.itpcorporation
Ok, I just reported it again. Here is the link to the reporting service:
support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?hl=en-GB&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
If anyone has 5 min – do the same thing, report it. I reported it twice, once using “Report an app for illegal content” option, and then using “Report an app violating Google Play Developer policy” option.
Spent about 5-7 minutes typing the info in the forms. Let’s see whether this is going to be quickly removed.
Apple doesn’t do anything about the app on their store, it’s really surprising how easily they can just publish an app without anyone checking them.
If you search tazinixo, the app shown for me. Just reported.
You can tell its a new app as it only had 1k+ downloads while the other one was 10k+
But all the sheep will not look at these details and they believe this is irrelevant. Red flags look white too them!!
Everyone will be millionaires!!! bunch of numpties!!!
If you deposited 1,000, you can withdraw the 1,000 back at any time or hold it for 30 days and withdraw twice as much.
Everyone risks losing all their paid-in capital because if the company actually disappears overnight, you will lose everything.
And if it stays on the market for a year, you will earn a lot of money trading cryptocurrencies because this is how this company presents itself. And they give a certain 2.5% daily + compound interest.
All you need to know that this is a Ponzi is that no-one can provide a “certain 2.5% daily + compound interest” for a year; let alone per day. NO-ONE!!
Just so you know, 2.5% daily compounded over a year is an annual return of over 17,700%.
I would be shocked if this lasts another 2 months before they run with the money. You have bought the snake oil hook, line and sinker. No-one is making any money in this, but they are stealing money from all those who invest after them.
You people really need to learn how to do real due diligence before you throw your money away on these Ponzi’s and fake programs.
The APP has gone from android AGAIN!! as its a scam. Guess what ITP said? More upgrades. Now its end of the month. Almost 30 days to upgrade LOL.
People still think its real…. Probably a few weeks left in this scam. I can see some people are starting to get nervous with the amount of money they have put in….
Nice work reporting, it’s definitely working! It’s a win even if you only save a couple of people, who question why it keeps on getting taken down without warning hopefully they realise that if the android app is being “updated” then why is the apple one not being updated.
Looks like they’ve lost the bot on their TG channel that reacts, gone from +40k emojis per post to less than 50.
Confirmed. App gone again lulz.
And yeah, the “updating app” ruse falls flat considering they don’t do anything with the Apple app.
Please understand they are not trading crypto, they use new users sign-up money to pay existing members – no trading is happening.
The amount of Muslim brothers and sisters participating in this is quite shocking. They know it’s ‘harram’ in other words they know it’s stolen money from new people coming in.
Their first line of argument is aslong as they get their investment back. But the fake profit thereafter is other peoples loss.
They are not true Muslims in my eyes. I know and true Muslims know, it will be taken off you or your family 10 fold in some way shape or form.
Allah sees everything. Shame to all of you.
ITP Corp has migrated over to the UK’s migrant community now? That’s unfortunate.
Historically that hasn’t gone well (OneCoin, Traffic Monsoon etc.).
Yes I am in the UK, and its very disturbing to see so many community. Yes I remember one coin used to hold events in Birmingham and Bradford, but people turn a blind eye to this sort of criminal ponzi behaviour.
They believe they are not doing any sort of crime. But they are participating in this crime.
The organisers will walk away with millions of stolen money, and their profit is also stolen to which they are enjoying right now.
Really is a sad state of affairs, its spreading fast in the the Pakistani and Indian communities.
How long do you think before this collapses? You obviously see a lot of those schemes come and go, what is your educated guess for the timeline of ITP for the next few months?
Same as an MLM Ponzi scheme; when withdrawals exceed new investment.
@Oz and it lasts 10 years so far? How it’s possible?
ITP Corp launched at best in November 2022. It only picked up over the last few months.
ITP Corp recruitment has peaked with low-hanging fruit in the UK’s migrant community. Now the Ponzi is spreading across Canada.
A friend told me about this last night, he sent me a screenshot of a Facebook post of a guy promoting it, it had 50+ comments of people verifying it and tonnes more of eager victims wanting to get in,
He went on to say it’s ‘100% legit’ what a complete moron. So it doesn’t look new investors or victims are drying up.
I feel I need to message this prick and tell him how hes defrauding people.
I understand that, but from your experience, you surely know approximately how long those last on average, since they are using pretty much the same blueprint. 12 months? 24 months? 6 months?
99% of MLM Ponzi schemes collapse within 2 years. The rest collapse after that.
If you look at Facebook, it seems to be increasingly growing.
However, look at the people commenting on the posts. They are generally linked and backing up each others stories. All negative comments or questions removed to protect to sham.
There’s no doubt early “investors” are seeing a return from other people’s future deposits. It’ll collapse quickly and massively and those last in will bare the brunt of the losses.
Let Technology shine the light of shite.
They had a real world “business meeting” in Swansea today, with some of the ringleaders attending.
While I can see that Mr Mack or whatever that sleezy bastards name is, knows what’s what. He knows well it’s a Ponzi.
But there is also Charlie Wildish who is posting on youtube:
youtube.com/@charliewildish408
And he seems like just a very gullible useful idiot doing marketing for ITP. It seems like some of those people who emerge as “team leaders” are just cynics who know very well it’s a ponzi and they just rinse the gullible from the money.
And there are also the dummies who genuinely believe that they are executing trades by clicking a button 5 times a day, and they promote it like it’s a business.
It must be Charlies first ponzi, or he is a really good actor. My bet is on dumb though.
Completely agree.
There definitely seems to be a mix of complete fraudsters and gullible idiots.
The amount of cash flowing into it must be significant but at what point do withdrawals exceed new deposits? That’s the breaking point.
Changing the min age and tier status’ etc suggest its looking to remove any barriers to maximize income asap.
An example – a $50 investment returns $409,000 within a year. There’s some serious new investors needed to keep up.
A couple of weeks/month left maybe?
This is what I hope for. The only reason I am here is out of spite. Someone tried to pitch it to me and they looked AT ME like an idiot when I said it looks and sounds like a Ponzi.
Now I want to help bring it down to have the last word because I hold grudges :).
Maybe the recent incentives they push on their telegram for recruitment is the last push for new members before rug pull. It’s hard to guess without having actual values.
I keep hearing about people withdrawing their initial deposits and more, so it must be close, unless the new recruits are really coming in in numbers and throwing their money at it. 2.5% – 4% per day seems to be very high even for a Ponzi, they are now missing the Android app so it’s harder to sign ppl in too.
I can’t wait for the crying and the squirming and the excuses when it all comes down.
If you want to help bring it down, go here and report their site (itpro.top):
ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
Fill in the form, explain that it’s a Ponzi in the “tell us more” section. They are a government body in the UK who have the power to investigate and remove scam websites. Every report helps!
Hi, I’m from Italy, a friend from UK asked me to try this ITP, we are aware that this sound like a Ponzi, but our idea is, invest only what do you consider to lose, I invested 400€, knowing that I could trash it. Why this should be wrong?
I’m asking really with curiosity, because my idea is that if you invest money you need to have a reasearch and at least know what a Ponzi system is.
So at least that I’m aware about it, meanwhile it doesn’t collapse I can earn money.
But the point that freak me out is that my friend from UK says that he knows peaople that are insede since 3 years, can a Ponzi live so long?
to be honest I do not ask people to follow me, or if someone ask I explain that 90% is a Ponzi Scheme, if you have money to loose get inside. By the way thanks for your discussion it’s really interesting.
The money you invest into a Ponzi scheme is stolen by people like your friend who got in earlier.
Anything you withdraw is stolen from people who join after you. Inevitably, the majority of investors lose money.
The reason this shit is spreading from the UK is because they’ve run out of suckers to scam there.
If you can’t see the problem with this fraudulent business model, I’m sorry your parent’s failed getting you a basic education.
Oz, I have good basic education don’t worry! The point you missed is the following, If I’m “stealing” from others, others are “stealing” from me, if you are aware about it it’s not a scam anymore, it’s a betting game, since it works I earn, when someone will withdraw the last drop, it will probably collapse.
If people are not stupid they will not play with more money that they can loose, otherwise I’m happy that articles like this can teach more people as possible about the risk to invest money online.
Of course I see the problem with a fraudulent business model and if it will be closed for this reason I will be happy, meanwhile I still don’t understand how is possible that this is living so long.
The problem is that many people who invest aren’t aware their money can be stolen, because the people who promote these opportunities don’t reveal this. That’s what makes it a scam.
If you want to snatch money from someone else legally, try using a betting exchange instead.
Marco, the fact you realise what it is and still continue to use it makes it worse in some ways, do you have no moral compass?
The majority of people getting in are just clueless fools, so you are stealing from the gullible and uniformed.
There is a strange grotesque beauty about a ponzi scheme when it begins to gain traction and it really does bring out the worst in people, ‘as long as I don’t get screwed’ it’s okay.
Simon and Louis I get your point, and yes I have a moral compass for sure, this is way I’m really interested on continuing this conversation but, I try to explain better my point.
You say that the system steal form “gullible and uniformed” people, well, before to have your money on ITP you need to create your crypto wallet (I have a good technical knowledge and it wasn’t so easy) then you need to use your token to move USDT to ITP.
it’s something that you can do only if you know a little bit how to navigate on the web, it’s not something that my parents (80y old) can do it!
So if you create your account on a crypto wallet and have the knowledge to at least know what a crypto is, you should be aware about the risk about your financial operations.
If you investing few hundred of euro my “moral compass” have no issue of course, if you are investing thousands of euro well, you have the wellness to do it, so you are betting as I’m doing.
I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong but we live in a age where everywhere you hear about social scam, Ponzi scheme, hackering and stuff like this, if you move big money on crypto and you are a “gullible and uniformed” well I don’t know what to do.
Then, 99% is a Ponzi, but what if it is not.
We don’t live in the Ponzi era, we cannot be unaware about the risk of the web.
I don’t know, probably I’m too deep in the security field of study to not see that lot of people have no neither the basis but well, I repeat, if you have thousands of € to invest without neither have a google research where you can easily find this post, for real, it means that you can afford it.
No, no it does not mean that. Desperate or gullible people regularly give away their whole life savings to scammers just because the scammers were persuasive enough.
None of those people who use ITP are particularly smart, apart from maybe the ringleaders who know it’s Ponzi and just want to take the money from others.
None of those people know what a blockchain is and how it works. None of them know anything about crypto or investing, otherwise they’d know that 2.5% per day is just simply not possible.
They just followed instructions someone gave them and convinced them to buy untraceable internet currency and send it to some chinese scammer.
You just sound like someone who wants to justify stealing money from others, while everyone is being lied to about what it really is.
If you come in late, just before collapse, you have no chance of making any money – you will lose it all to people who came in early and the scammers.
@Marco
Stop making excuses for financial fraud. Ponzi schemes are not “betting” (which is also regulated), they are fraudulent investment schemes.
ITP Corp has only been around a few months. They’ve already exhausted recruitment of suckers in the UK and are now spreading to other countries.
There is no “what if”. If you can’t independently verify an investment opportunity is doing what it claims to be (due to their deliberate legal failings), it’s a Ponzi scheme.
in my opinion this will collapse since is a Ponzi, but i think it wont shut down too soon atleast 1-2-3 month it will keep staying up since now its start to expend so much in many countries.
Ive heard it is now expending in Bulgaria, Canada, Romania.
Whats your opinion? do you think they have where to find more people to keep it up? the traffic on their website skyrocketed in september to almost 1m visitors.
but i think it wont shut down too soon atleast 1-2-3 month
@Neon. I think around the next 4-6 weeks it will collapse. Its been going on for a while and in the last 3 months has picked up so much momentum.
The reason why I say 4-6 weeks, is because there are people withdrawing $5k – $20k daily.
I mean a lot of people have been withdrawing this, you can see it on you tube and their telegram channel. Imagine all the small withdrawals happening daily.
Another thing is these ponzis, the scammers don’t open up countries in some strategic format. They just make it out to you now we are ‘open’ in so and so country. Its all playing with your minds.
Soon withdrawals will exceed deposits…. and that’s when the excuse of hacking, or some silly excuse will happen.
Don’t waste your money.
I agree with Marco. I do disagree with you Chobson. People doing this are not dumb or uneducated. They are betting rather than getting scammed. I for example live in the US, and I’m an engineer. I’m by no means gullible.
Since I joined I knew it was a matter of time and I’m playing betting against time here. I do know that they will pull the rug and I tell everyone I know who is doing it the same thing (they’re betting against time). If time is in their favor they will win, or at least break even.
But hey, who knows, it may last a while (months or years) and you guys are losing on profit. Yes, maybe 2.5% daily profits sound like a lot, but again I have known of hedgefunds that can laugh at that amount of return.
I think you guys are probably overlooking and hating too much at this. Time will decide everything, and only time will tell. Maybe it’s not a scam, or maybe it fails right now… who knows?
It’s a Ponzi scheme in which it is mathetmatically guaranteed the majority of investors will lose money. ITP Corp investors are both dumb and uneducated.
Math guarantees the majority of investors in Ponzi schemes lose money. It doesn’t matter how long it takes.
That you don’t recognize this makes you gullible, “dumb and uneducated”.
Oz, no the investors are neither dumb nor uneducated. If it was mathematically driven you would have gone ahead and calculated the end of the life cycle of the company.
(Ozedit: snip, derails removed)
Thanks YieldInquirer, you replied to Oz, exactly as I would.
Everybody knows that playing with money on the web is risky, and that mathematically when the scheme blow up lot of people will loose money, but if you invest all your money on something like this because you trust on random people well, you have other type of problems, and is not a Ponzi failure your first problem.
By the way I honestly believe that most of the people are aware about it and are playing the game.
And also, as YieldInquirer said, lot of real traders earn really more then 2.5% a day, so way they couldn’t have found an “AI” system to do this… I know that there are a lot of clue about the Ponzi scheme but if you check well the working system is more complex then you could think.
For example, on the first level you cannot withdraw more than 20k at the moment, but few months ago it was only 500, you can withdraw whenever you want, if you withdraw after 21 day you don’t pay the 7% fee up to 1000.
Literally all the people my friend invited in UK they all withdrawn at least their deposit and more. I know it sounds strange but a real Ponzi couldn’t let you all this freedom or am I wrong?
For smarter people then me, I report my last quantitative record (click) of today. For real I’m not sure to know how to decipher it.
Both of you, Marco and YieldInquirer, the lengths you fucking go and perform the mental gymnastics to justify that you’re scum.
Yes, most of the people that buy into those things are gullible, financially uneducated and are being used by scammers and people like you who want to play the system and make money out of them. Go sodomise yourselves with a retractable baton.
You’re kidding yourself if you can’t realise this is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme.
If 1000 people put $100 into this, with the guaranteed 2.5% a day. That equates to $88 million within a year. Where do you think that is coming from?
My guess is the majority of people are withdrawing initial investments and letting the paper “profit” build.
1-2 months, maybe 1-2 weeks. Who knows, certainty is it folds and the house of cards come crashing down.
There’s a mix of people knowing exactly what they’re getting into Vs people who will have no clue what’s happened to their funds once the rug is pulled.
Ok, try to change the point of view, this is a fraudolent business model, I don’t know the law about it but I guess someone already red flagged it, but it’s still up.
what can you do to let it explode before other fools trash their life on it? Join (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Marco and YieldInquirer thank you for proving that education has nothing to do with morals; of which neither of you have any.
Get real, you are participating in a criminal enterprise and therefore you are a crook as you are both willing participants.
All that verbiage to say “I am stealing and I don’t care what you think of me doing it. Your parents and families must be so proud of you.
@Yieldinquirer
All Ponzi schemes are mathematically driven. Once withdrawals exceed new investment they collapse.
This is a mathematical formula that applies to all Ponzi schemes, including ITP Corp.
@Marco
The laws being broken by ITP Corp are securities and wire fraud.
You’re not compelled to join and participate in fraudulent investment schemes. Do better.
Marco. this is a reply from a friend who is a trader full time. A response to your FAKE Trade.
1st, BTC/USDT Pair does not have 6 decimal numbers. The BASE currency USDT stable coin. Its pegged to USD, 2 decimal places. Next time you go to a supermarket or fill fill fuel in your car, think about it. Hence your Investment amount, BITOP ask price and profit figures are completely fake or should I say ‘just numbers on a screen’. Because their programming skills were just copy and paste.
Yes if profit was in BTC then yes it has 8 decimal places. But your fake profits are in USDT.
2nd, How do you get your profit?.. Difference in BTC price $13.88 divide by buy price of $27775.87 multiple by your investment of $6957.69 = $3.47
So these figures and trades are all SPOT therefore no fees are accounted for in your fake trade, I mean Deposit FEE, Maker Fee, Taker Fee, withdrawal fee. Looks like your programming Dev team forgot to take this into account as well.
3rd Profit of $3.47 divide by your investment of $6957.69 leaves a percentage return of 0.0498% times 5 trades a day 0.24% no no no way near 2.5% a day. Plus team commissions. Looks like more numbers on a screen.
So, lets say each trade is $7000 (very conservative as profit is only $3.47). Multiply by 5 trades daily equals $35000 (USDT) trading volume per day for YOU. Multiply by 50k members (i’m sure there is more) equals a trading volume of $1,750,000,000…. To give you an idea BINANCE has a trading volume of $850,000,000 a day this is the whole world not just ITP Scammers like you.
Wake up its all FAKE!! Arbitrage trading is so so difficult, was OK 7-9 years ago. but these Scammers manage 10’s of thousands of arbitrage trades daily is utter garbage.
YieldInquirer, I know a few elderly people who have been conned into this and been told by people like you its real trading. Judging by yours and Marcos comments your trying hard to and are in Denial.
People loose money, people commit suicide after these scams collapse.
So every cent you withdraw as ‘your profit’ is constituted towards that and you are participating in their loss, theft, or even death. Karma will get all of you in some way shape or form.
Sleep well scammers….
@Oz
why did you snip my comment?
Exactly!!!! this worth all the discussion, nobody is forced to join (Ozedit: snip, see below)
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
I don’t get your point, why do you think I don’t have a moral? I do not ask anybody to join, I inform people about the risk of this probably scheme, since it works nobody is stealing but they all earn money, and when it will crash well, ITP will respond about our money and their moral.
I could be agree with you if someone says that they use my money for corruption, trade guns or drugs, in that case I wuold stop immediately cause this would be uneccaptable for my moral judge.
I read a little bit more about this behindmlm.com and this is really a great place where to learn more about scamming and social engineering, it’s a good tool to be aware about web risks.
@Marco
Because if I can nip something in the bud that makes it easier to can derails.
That’s not what I meant within the context of what I was replying to and you know it.
Looks like a new Andrioid app was released on 3 October. ITP Pro – Tazinixo. This is after the two previous versions were taken down. They’re nothing if not persistent!
Seriously Marco, you don’t understand why I said what I said?
First, no-one is “earning” any money. This is a Ponzi. It is illegal and all payments are stolen money from new people joining so the early joiners get paid. It’s how Ponzi’s work.
It makes no difference if you refer someone or not. You are still participating in a crime. It makes you an accessory. It makes no difference if you warn people it “might be” as you claim, a scheme, the point is you still are in it and taking the stolen money for your participation.
Cut the bull crap with your silly word games. It doesn’t work here. You know it is a Ponzi and you don’t care as long as you get yours. That makes you a crook and you still want to claim that you have morals? Seriously?
Notice that you avoided Darren’s post like the plague. But then you can’t play word games with what he wrote like you try to do with everyone else. He clearly proved this is a Ponzi and no trading is happening. It is all just numbers on a screen.
Where I come from stealing is not a moral virtue, but I guess where you come from it is since you claim you are a moral person.
So much for your claim of being “educated.” Clear enough for you?
@Lynndel
I’m not an early joiner… I still make money…
Numbers on a screen != making money.
@Oz
I was just “Quoting” @Lynndel
If only early joiners makes money how comes almost everyone who joined made money until now? this thing is running for more than 10 months.
When does “Early joiner” stop to apply?
1. ITP Corp only picked up a few months ago in the UK. That’s dying so it’s spreading to other countries.
2. The scammers running ITP Corp and early investors/recruiters withdraw the majority of invested funds. The gullibles who join later get numbers on a screen and the inevitable “sorry for your loss”.
When recruitment of gullible morons inevitably collapses.
@Oz
Doesn’t seem like it’s dying in the UK, it’s ok to hope for it but it’s not happening…
(Ozedit: spam removed)
If it wasn’t recruitment wouldn’t be spreading elsewhere.
As you’re evidently part of the last batch of suckers who were recruited in the UK, sorry for your loss.
Crapping on about “we are making money” doesn’t contribute the discussion. It’s Ponzi marketing.
I get it, you’re of limited intelligence and this is your first Ponzi scheme. I also don’t care and will be marking the idiocy as spam.
We’re not here to babysit people who don’t understand basic math.
Regardless of whether you’re stealing money or think numbers on a screen = stealing money, ITP Corp is a Ponzi scheme in which the majority of investors are guaranteed to lose money.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington
I didn’t avoid Darren M post, simply yesterday I hadn’t time to write, also because that one it’s the first intersting post I read since now, it speak about numbers and I’m really glad he asked to pro trader to check it.
@Darren M
the 1st point it’s ok, it’s easy to understand.
the 2nd & 3rd I’m not sure I understood, probably because english is not my first language, by the way I try to reply. 3.47$ it’s indeed the profit of a single click, you pay withdraw fee only when you withdraw (7%). You don’t have to divide 3.47/5 you have to moliply per 5, so daily at the moment I have a profit around 18$.
I didn’t invest 7000, My deposit was only of 400€, at the moment after little more then 1 month I have 750€, so the calculation of trading volume it’s not easy to do, also because there are limits on “quantization” so it’s not really exponential as it seems.
By the way I don’t have the knowledge to argue about number with a trader of course, I just wanna say that the system it’s not easy as you think.
(Ozedit: spam removed)
It’s actually simpler. If you can’t prove trading with legally required audited financial reports filed with regulators, you’re in a Ponzi scheme.
@oz
Ok it’s easy as you say, so why police don’t close it and arrest all of them?
That’s a question for the police. Feel free to contact your local authorities and ask them why.
Thanks. App is here:
support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?hl=en-GB&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
And as always, report it please as an illegal Ponzi, they will take it down within a week.
Report it using this form:
support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2853570?hl=en-GB&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
Is this not a reskin of Laxsson? The app is identical in style and theme, infact the same!
whoxy.com/itpro.top#history
Interesting Mr Wang.
I’m not 100% but ITP Corp fits the “click a button” app Ponzi model. There’s over a hundred of the scams.
Very similar advertising to Laxsson with the spaceman theme, and the app interface is identical so it can’t just be a coincidence.
instagram.com/p/Cuw05YHS2Tc/?img_index=5
Going to go pop soon after their recruitment drive, be safe people!
@Oz
Can you explain more about the “click a button ponzi model”?
Chinese scammers running braindead Ponzi app scams targeting braindead investors.
The model closest to ITP Corp is the “quantitative trading” ruse.
https://behindmlm.com/companies/click-a-button-app-ponzis/
The dumbest people in society have phones now so they’ve been quite successful, mostly targeting third world countries or third-world migrants elsewhere.
But this Laxsson is still going right? Hasn’t collapsed?
As far as I know Laxsson is still there. Their app is on the playstore and their website is still up with 2023 copy rights
I need 5 more days to withdraw 1000$. I’ll let you know if it’s real or Just a “number on the screen”.
Right now it is numbers on a screen. If you do withdraw, ITP Corp is still a Ponzi scheme and you’re just stealing money.
It’s lose-lose for your moral compass either way. Not that you seem to care.
On some of the chat groups. People that were in ITP for a few months moved a lot of people to Stronghold with many joining recently.
Stronghold has now stopped paying and scammed.
These click a button Ponzis are all run by the same group of Chinese scammers.
I had an account open with ITP, as someone i knew wanted me to be a team member for him. he paid the initial 100usdt deposit and i was interested in seeing how it played out.
I knew from the beginning it was to good to be true so i started digging and quickly realised the entire company is fake.
i started to ask questions in the ITP whats app group about the buisness model and was removed from the group with no explanation as to why and found that my account had been terminated I was logged out and was given the message that my account does not exist when trying to log back in.
for me this is undeniable proof that they are a fraudulent company and the people promoting it are either brain dead or actively scamming you.
Charlie Wildish is a promoter of ITP on YouTube please if you care about exposing this scam warn people on his YouTube videos.
the victims will not do their own due diligence because of people like him and others who manipulate uneducated or unaware people. selling them a dream.
@scythe
They all know its a scam, the reason they throw you out the groups is because they say they don’t want negativity. They don’t want you to scare other ‘potential’ victims that are sitting on the fence and are about to part with their money.
They have a CULT type mentality. They will no longer be your friends as money is more important to them.
Money will even divide family members. When it crashes families are destroyed…. Just watch.
I don’t think it will be around much longer. The website is full of serious security issues.
You don’t even need to login to find them. Oops 🙂
Can you tell us more about this?
apiKey, apiSecret & encryption keys hard coded for starters. No reputable company would do this.
API Key & Secret Exposure: If both the API key and the secret are exposed, it means unauthorized parties can potentially access the associated services without any barriers. They can impersonate legitimate users or systems, possibly leading to data theft, data corruption, or misuse of the service.
Exposure of Encryption Keys: If encryption keys are exposed, any data that was encrypted using those keys can be decrypted by unauthorized parties. It essentially negates the purpose of encryption.
Given the low-effort nature of the app template used, I’m actually surprised nobody has jacked the “click a button” app scammers yet.
api keys and secrets are hard coded & encryption keys also appear to be hard coded. test / 0123456789ABCDEF is what they have used for encryption. crazy!
Its also hosted on AWS (Amazon Web Services). Both website and api.
Yes their reason to close up will probably
‘we got hacked’
‘data breach’
‘too many duplicate accounts’
‘some sheep were stacking accounts’
and because of this we need an internal audit…. lol
Or what would really be good for all the fools who think this is real is if they just stopped and disappeared without any communication!!!
So ivor, what you are saying is anyone could get into their website using “test / 0123456789ABCDEF” these login information?
No, but anything they think is encrypted is not. This could be any information in a database including personal data.
The test / 0123456789ABCDEF are just the poorly chosen key / iv for the encryption. To read the encrypted data you decrypt using the same key / iv. The point is.. this sort of thing shouldn’t be exposed to someone with chrome dev tools open. A solid company managing millions of $ wouldn’t do this.
I hate to think what its like once you have actually logged in.. (Dont want to register using my phone numbers for obvious reasons)
Looks like the website is down, hopefully the beginning of the end!
I’ve played with the api.itpmax.com/api and apiKey is visible in the payload but I can’t figure out the `sign` and `timestamp` parameters that must be present for all enpoints it seems.
I assume `sign` is a hash made out of timestamp and a secret?
ITP Corp’s website is still loading here.
Their Telegram channel is sounding increasingly desperate though.
Yea the signing is visible in source too. HMAC I believe. I vaguely remember this being in Utils/common.js. But yes.. Its there for all to see how each object gets signed before going to Api. That is where apiSecret comes.
It exposes how it deals with uploads too. Find the upload endpoint and you can potentially be malicious here as well. As I said, I bet its worse once logged in!
See the following nodejs jsfiddle.. This works and returns the country list used on login screen.
jsfiddle.net/n9yj7af0/
This may not work directly on JSFiddle and you may need to copy to your machine and run in nodejs. It shows you a working code example though.
Virgin Media ISP in the UK is blocking their site now, I don’t know about other ISPs but I reported the site to NCSC a couple weeks ago:
ncsc.gov.uk/collection/phishing-scams/report-scam-website
Might be that, might be not. I feel like if we had a coordinated community of several people who know how to and where to report apps/websites etc – then we would be helping closing those things down much quicker
The sad thing is the FCA actually puts out a lot of fraud warnings. Trouble is they tend to ignore MLM Ponzis altogether.
Seems the URL has changed to itp.club/
The previous one doesn’t work any more for me in the UK.
Thanks for the update. Usually the rug pull isn’t too far off once website domain musical chairs starts up.
I am worried that ITP could shut down reviewing the comments above. I only invested a month ago.
I was logged out of my account this morning. When I try to log back in it says incorrect password. I guess someone really did hack the website and stole my account.
Your account wasn’t hacked. Admins withdrew all your money and gone. Typical.
Yes, this is common practice with these PONZIs. I would report it to your local trading standards and the Police.
A lot of people just leave it, and these scammers get away with it.
This is a full on scam the sales pitch of some of these people is beyond a joke gullible people.
ITP are very clever in persuading members that it isn’t a scam.
People may get their withdrawals at first, then it will rug pull them later on.
What do you guys think of this though?
Yes. I had assumed they used the “up to 72 hours” withdrawals to balance the in/out on the entire thing, but I realise now that they’ve likely had their take and probably continue to syphon a % of the income into an isolated account so as to allow withdrawals to go on as long as possible without getting themselves burned.
I wonder if there is a human element to determining when they will block withdrawal to some or all people. Or if it’s entirely algorithmic.
Or if the music just goes on until the pot hits zero on it’s own – minus their historic take of the ingoings.
Greed is a powerful thing, even if I had not realised it was a ponzi when someone asked me to join, as soon as I saw withdrawals were limited based on your MLM behaviour and account balance, regardless of the balance on your account I could see the manipulation I would be under and didn’t want any of it.
I’ve utterly failed to convince anyone it’s a ponzi though. The really strange thing is that people say they’re cautious, or suspect, but not so much so that they won’t get involved or won’t recruit others.
Yet when I ask “well why dont you deposit more” they give canned “play with the profits”, “house money” jargon.
Is this cult behaviour or people lying to themselves?
@James
It’s a shell company, it’s meaningless.
It’s not the same as registering with the SEC and filing legally required audited financial reports.
@Clarine
All these smart dumbshits who think they can beat math don’t realize that, on the backend there’s math working against them. As soon as recruitment of suckers dies down it’s over. And they won’t see it coming.
Question is: when will it stop working? Doesn’t seem like it’s dropping off any time soon, we need as many people as we can to report the new app by tazinixo on the play store to entice fear.
Also we need people to report this to NCSC so Mack, the main culprit, will be investigated. Instead of complaining here let’s all do something about this.
In the last 24 hours itp has withdrawn 173million usdt from their wallet. It looks like they going to do a runner. Very soon.
How do u know they withdrawed 175m ?
It’s a wallet Einstein. Anyone can look it up.
Track the wallet
There is something that is not working here, ITP managers continue to entice people to withdraw, it doesn’t sounds familiar for a Ponzi scheme.
If what Juice said is true, people withdrawn 173 million usdt, how much is the income of the managers to be a sustainable ponzi?
For people who wrotes their problem with the account, I had the same too, I contacted the admin and he fixed me in 5 minute resetting the password.
I continue to say that for sure is something strange, and the security protocol is really bed, but, people are earning money for real, I’ve already withdrawn my deposit and now I’m earning.
I don’t want to open again the discussion about moral and scamming etc.. but I just would like to suggest you to not consider it only as a Ponzi, because (Ozedit: derails removed)
I get this is your first app Ponzi. This model has been around since at least 2021. There are over a hundred of these stupid things reviewed on BehindMLM.
Simpleton Ponzi schemes for simpletons.
@Marco
They do this so they can lure them into the next scam. ITP is way bigger than you think. $173m is a small amount that has been withdrawn and stashed away over 11 Months.
ITP is targeting the local communities in almost every town.
especially in the UK. I am in Newcastle and its huge here.
Everyday 1000s still join so managers and leaders continue to withdraw.
Oh, this moral thing.. yes you are a scammer and thief. Your profit is not profit, its stolen gains.
Karma will take it back of you, your family 10 fold!!! So if you loose some money, you have a car crash, your house is damaged… blame it on karma.
So, enjoy your criminal proceeds for now…
I just want to understand how it’s stolen gains because no one has been scammed by ITP so far.
@James med
Because there will be 10s of thousands of people that will loose without seeing a cent.
All their money will be in the scammers pockets and yours.
Bernie Madoffs scam went on for a while, he paid people with new investments then when he didnt have money left it came crashing down, and people lost millions.
Oh and have people noticed when ITP do a promotion, its only NEW INVESTORS. Not old investors bringing in new money. NEW PEOPLE, NEW PEOPLE, NEW PEOPLE is all they want, who will bring in NEW PEOPLE.
They entice you with higher returns if you recruit more people.
So its dangling a carrot infront of all the donkey members of ITP.
This time next year we will all be millionaires. I mean 2.5% to 4% fixed daily. How thick can you people get????
Everyone who hasn’t withdrawn more than they invested has already been scammed (the majority of ITP Corp investors at any given time). They’re just too stupid to realize it.
Math is math and Ponzi schemes are a zero-sum equation.
@Marco
Either you are absolutely thick or you are absolutely thick. Do you think this money is coming from thin air?? Oh wait, you really think they are doing arbitrage trading. Do you even know what this is?? Click a button and we all get paid.
You are getting paid because all the leaders are bringing in 1000’s new people daily.
As you don’t want to discuss it here anymore, it looks like you are an active ponzi user. You seem to think we are closed on the idea. It seems you are too narrow minded to see the truth and want to believe its real.
Anyway I am going to eat some pizza with pineapple.
Ciao.
So you think it would be better if I just withdraw and leave the app im inexperienced with these apps and a mate just added me on it
If you can withdraw, then I’d do it ASAP. And if you lucky then you’ll get the money.
i was in stronghold and in two days they took the money out come Sunday it didn’t let us withdraw. I just want to see how this ends up.
Most of ITP Corp’s investors aren’t early joiners. It’s mathematically impossible.
I will report it to HMRC/INLAND Revenue.
He is based in Leicester. I will make screen shots of his telegram group.
mack subedar real name SUBEDAR, Fakih Mahmood is his real name i believe.
He owns a company:
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08517083/officers
Address is easily available on google.
Whoever the person is spamming this thread you can stop now.
I’d give it a month until it’ll eventually collapse, Hell, they’ve already started withdrawing money to offshore wallets so it’s only a matter of time till it desolves.
@Darren M kuddos to you sir, update us on the report
Outright crazy to see how people don’t recognise this as a ponzi scheme. Red flags are so clear.
I got removed from the group chat a week ago for asking who the owner of ITP was. Shocking.
So today was the final straw. I seen people making some insane ‘fake’ promises, it makes me sick.
Today I called ‘Action Fraud’, they were great and asked loads of questions. I reported 3 people altogether and have also an online access to the case number to to which i need to send telegram info, youtube channels etc.
Call was about 45 mins, and the lady was great to talk to, and listened t everything I said.
If a few people can do this then it will carry more weight. However, I have been told my case will definitely be looked into and judging by the telegram group of 200k and number of youtube videos, they will pay extra attention.
Also, looking into their TRX wallets it looks like money is bieng moved at faster rate than before.
All those people who are part of ITP. If you or the owners think its real… then you should have nothing to worry about… you muppets!!!
Also Charlie Wildish who is promoting this in the UK like crazy, and on his youtube chanel. Very active. I’m reporting him as well and advise you to do the same.
His channel on youtube, just read his replies to some people trying to expose it, it’s hilarious how deluded this guy is, yet I think he is either a good actor or genuinely a dum dum who truly believes this isn’t a ponzi… :
youtube.com/channel/UCmLjVSWQQNOuxqC48bONVeQ
His FB:
facebook.com/charlie.wildish
Charlie is a fraud and 99% likely to be on ITP’s payroll. Somehow only he knows what a ponzi scheme definition is , not anyone else.
If you have to make a video explaining how it’s not a Ponzi scheme, more than likely it is a ponzi scheme. Great job guys, let’s keep reporting these fraudsters.
Darren M: Add this guy to your case – Billy Horncastle (facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093585935670) – this is the “Bills Liverpool IPT Group” guy who used to be in the photo on the old website that got taken down.
He’s the main ringleader in Merseyside it seems.
They’re looking ever so desperate now; every couple of days they’re doing an “event” where you get new invitee bonuses.
This suggests they want to suck everyone dry until they get enough money to run off with it. This thing is going to fall earlier than expected
Just had a chat with a friend who mentioned that he’s unable to withdraw his funds.
He’s messaged support with no response received so far. Looks like it’s coming to an end soon.
People get blined when they see money for doing nothing. People are making stupid amounts of money. So you can’t blame them.
I got sucked in stronghold was making 1600 a week for doing nothing. Who ever was in stronghold from the start made good money.
As for itp they are all over the world, they have 1 billon usdt coins in 3 wallets.
@Juice
How long did Stronghold last?
They just posted this spew on telegram. looks like something CHAT GPT. Must say their English has improved… LOLz
@Razz 3 or 4 months so for itp to still be here it’s done well.
@Darren M what the hell does that even mean? Almost as if they’re trying to sound professional but said a whole lot of nothing.
@Juice stronghold and ITP are made by the same chinese scammers, they made stronghold collapse so they can social engineer low IQ people into thinking ITP is the real deal.
Notice how ITP were very defensive after stronghold collapsed saying things like “dont trust people who impersonate ITP” “dont trust scam websites like these”.
Now everyone thinks ITP are the good guys and will trust ITP more, its a common social engineering tactic.
The reason it sounds janky is because it’s written to target low IQ people in Chinese (think Nigerian prince emails), then auto-translated to English.
@buldag That means: many ITP-related wallets have been flagged as high-risk, so we’re giving you a new one.
I have a great friend who is so hyped up on this ITP corporation and if you mention it’s a Ponzi scheme he gets all defensive as if I am wrong and that technology is improving all the time and its a bot making money on behalf of users. Lol.
The penny will drop at some point.
@Juice
I wou’ld say ITP is doing very well and by the numbers you brought they will probably last a year, at least, if not more because they don’t seem to stop growing.
@buldaq
So you’re saying all those click a buttons apps are the same group behaind ITP?
I’ve seen manny apps like that, some are on bealf known companies but probably without authorization to use the brand, so I wouldn’t be too sure Stronghold are the ones behind ITP…
Yes the same group of organized crime Chinese scammers is behind every Ponzi app. When is it going to sink in?
@RazZ yes most of these apps are made by the same criminals , which is why the apps look similar to each other
If Mack , the main culprit of advertising this to the U.K., gets caught by the authorities then the whole scheme will shut down as UK is making this stay alive
@buldaq
Why do you think this Mack guy can get cought? he is so public, doesn’t seem he is afraid of anything…
@RazZ he’s currently being investigated by fraud action as per @Darren M. If more people do the same and report him, he’ll be a target by the authorities.
@buldaq
This is not what I’m asking…
Seems he’s got something up his sleeves, he is not on the run ATM…
@RazZ the only way he could’ve been caught without anyone reporting him , is by having his bank flag up on HMRC’s systems, however he probably sends his money to his family members in crypto and then buy it out in cash to avoid any suspicions.
Of course , he probably has something up his sleeve but if we can report this guy and get him locked off then this whole ponzi scheme will eventually shut down causing a domino effect.
Yes he has been reported. I would advise people to call them up. They ask a bunch of questions.
E.g telegram groups, personal details of these criminals, victims if any….
I would advise if you are in the UK to call Action Fraud. Well worth it.
If you go through most the SCAM project on behindmlm, you will see master distributors are always found…. it may be 1 year 2 years… but their time will come.
This reminds me of one coin.
Looks like some trustpilot review wars are going on, you all know what to do people:
uk.trustpilot.com/review/itpro.top
@Oz When I reported to Action Fraud UK, I gave this website for 1st point of call.
If you want to do another page on SUBEDAR, Fakih Mahmood AKA Mack, I have plenty of Information on him, loads of pictures with him and his sheep…. I am in the process of sending this to Action Fraud also.
BehindMLM doesn’t review scammers, we review MLM opportunities.
Mack normally has zoom calls Thursday. Does anyone know if he is doing one today? If so, please send the link on here .
yes he’s doing one at 7:30 UK time
link: (Ozedit: link removed)
Please don’t post marketing spam unless it’s for a specific cited reason.
he asked for a link, i gave it. Not really considered spam in this context but fair enough.
@Oz it was a for their zoom call, it was not for no affiliate link or spam. Mack always holds his calls on Thursdays, i was going to hop on and spam the chat.
@Darren M
And did you? 😉
I don’t have a link for the zoom.
@Darren M that was my idea also, unfortunately he disabled the chat.
Rn he’s spewing BS about quantisation like it has anything to do with this scheme and i’m laughing. i renamed myself to “THIS IS A PONZI SCHEME” if one person takes heed into that , id be glad.
@buldaq
Action fraud they wanted recorded evidence…. oh damn!!!
@Darren M Show the videos of Mack withdrawing , plenty of them on the telegram and whatsapp groups.
oh my God, i can’t believe the stuff i’m hearing right now in this zoom call, absolute bogus.
Mack explaining to put more money into ITP because the “trades” simply can’t fund everyone is laughable.
How is nobody catching this, surely i can’t be the only smart one out of 1000 smoothbrains watching this.
I was invited to this zoom call today, Someone in the zoom call (2 people actually), mentioned how ITP isn’t regulated via the SEC, meaning they’re operating illegally and they asked why so.
The amount of cr*p that came out of Mack’s mouth when he tried to make sense within his answer but sounded like an absolute fool saying “our company doesn’t need to be SEC regulated” “we’ve got it all under control” “we showed proof of our licence” (the license is proof of it being a SHELL company which is totally different btw).
What he said was Utter horsesh*t and can’t believe that the average joe will dismiss this.
ITP HAS a event planned on the 19th November in Leicester
buytickets.at/itpcorporation/1045785 were you have to pay to get in.
Guys use this link to report the app:
support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/contact/policy_violation_report?sjid=5382541784429064969-NA
Application Package Name: com.itppro.ahdev
Report it for financial services (crypto mining).
Let’s get this app removed from the store. You know what to do.
@Wolly P
Crypto mining apps are not allowed in android store?
I know about lots of crypto mining apps…
Think about how stupid and gullible and uneducated the average human being is, and then realise that 50% of the species is stupider than average… This is why it’s so successful.
I seen some clips of yesterdays call. @Chobson, you are right. The society of today are really quite thick and gullible. It really is a sad state of affairs.
The SEC question made me laugh. I mean, the answer was not an answer, you could see the nervousness in Macks face. But they guy asking the question seemed smart. But then he believed his nonsense, and was thick as everyone else.
sec.gov/files/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf
even if i was stupid, id still have some decency to look online for reviews on a particular app that im going to trust putting my money on.
The first guy asked about the SEC thing and didn’t really question Mack’s gibberish answer, however towards the end of the zoom call another person asked the same question and mentioned how it’s illegal etc, Mack kept saying nothing what they’re doing is illegal, the person was going to explain to him why it’s illegal and then Mack cut him off, this is why I know it’s 100% a scam.
Shocked as to why nobody else said a word about this, even if I didn’t know if it was a scam, i’d still be skeptical over that whole situation because it just seemed as though Mack didn’t want the truth to be said.
And this is why you are here and not remortgaging your home to give the money in untracable form to Chinese syndicate 🙂
The morons are the target audience, they need to filter out anyone with even a tiny spec of critical thinking, this is why they cut people off in whatsapp group/calls, this is why they bang on about “negativity” in those ChatGPT generated Telegram posts.
Anyone who is not a knuckledragging mouthbreather (literally or figuratively) will quickly see this through. It’s the ones that don’t they try to collect as many of.
I wonder if anyone has brought up the FCA outright banning MLM cryptocurrency investment schemes earlier this month.
That’s a lot closer to home for this Mack scammer than the US and the SEC.
Someone should also ask for them to publish a list of their trades on the different exchanges as proof that they are performing successful arbitrage trades (100% of the time lol).
Someone
actually someone asked that on the call yesterday, Mack said “if you’re concerned about that find it out yourself” LOL!
If i had no clue what ITP was and was just given the zoom call as context, i’d be so sure it would be a scam.
Mack made himself look like a fool in that call, but only to people who aren’t braindead.
A list of trades isn’t legally compliant. They need to be audited financial reports filed with regulators.
These legally required reports don’t exist, for obvious reasons.
We could find it out ourselves if the trades were on-chain, but they pretend that they’re doing arbitrage between exchanges ie. buy on Coinbase, sell on Binance.
These trades wouldn’t be accessible to the public. He clearly doesn’t know enough about crypto to know that though.
Nope. The blockchain is not a substitute for legally required audited financial reports filed with regulators.
The reason there’s no reports is because there’s no trading (duh).
I see this ponzi ending end of December.
@Ayy
Why would you say that?
From what I know they’ve got tons of money flowing in from new joing members.
If we put a side the discussion about external revenue, yes or no, only this is showing they have ebough fuel for a long time…
Compounding gets exponentially out of control in every Ponzi scheme over time.
Most of ITP Corp’s investors might be illiterate but math is still math.
@Oz
I agree, but as long as new fresh money will flow in, this thing will keep paying and paying and paying…. math or no math…
While there’s a lot of them, there’s still only a limited number of illiterate dumbfucks falling for app Ponzis.
Math is king when it comes to Ponzis unravelling. Take it from someone with almost fifteen years experience covering them.
Maybe instead of guessing when this thing will collapse, why not try to ensure as many people as you can to avoid getting into this scheme. You could either
1) give reviews on the app on the play store / app store and trustpilot (trust me this will work).
2) contact your local trading standards / FCA about this scheme and they’ll shut it down if they’re aware that more people are reporting it.
There’s no need to guess, it’s pointless.
ITP Corp will collapse when recruitment slows down and the scammers running it run off with everyone’s money. Obvious Ponzi is obvious.
Guys on this thread : do yourselves a favour and go check the activity and assets in the various wallets, and the millions worth of crypto flowing in and out of the wallets.
who has been attending their weekly zoom calls to ask questions?
@stan
Please explain… what do you mean?
go check the in and out flows.
@Stan
I’m not that good in this area… Can you just summerise the numbers…
I attended Thursdays zoom call, a few people asked some questions which raised some suspicions. Was hilarious to see Mack’s face when he tried making sense with some of his answers
This is really getting big really quick.
Remember ONECOIN was big in the ethnic communities. This is heading that way.
I can tell you this. This will get alerted soon. And the like of MACK, thinking he is so big is leaving so so much incriminating evidence in his trails. So is Billy and his boys!!! I tell you now.
I have raised the report wih Action Fraud, I have a case number.
There will be so so many victims around the world.
Please take time to report it with Action Fraud UK. HMRC. FCA, just tweet them also with incriminating evidence.
The more reports the better.
Has ActionFraud ever acted against a Ponzi?
They are a reporting agency only. When you report a Ponzi/fraud to them you will receive a police crime reference number.
Reports taken are passed to the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau. Action Fraud does not investigate the cases and cannot advise you on the progress of a case.
They provide help and advice over the phone to people who believe they have been a victim of a Ponzi or fraud.
they get alerted that it’s a scam and they do their diligence to take the website and its accomplices down.
Btw there’s a zoom call at 7:30 GMT tonight, let’s see what he has to say this time!
The UK is notoriously light on doing anything to scammers.
Some good news is that Companies House is make UK registration more difficult.
@delta you are spot on
They are incredibly light.
However, I aim to tweet pictures, videos, anything an everything to FCA, Action Fraud, West Midlands Police, East Midlands Police, Trading Standards, HMRC, FCA, Cyber Crime Unit, LEICESTER LIVE.
5 times a day if i have to.
Tomorrow when i am at work, I will message here all the twitter addresses.
IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE I CAN ADD TO THE TWITTER FEED PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
MACK IS A F***ing scoundrel. He is even preying on the elederly folk, which makes my blood boil!!!
My mates grandad (he’s 70) was told to invest in this, he put £1200 in this , keeping in mind he has no clue what crypto is. Couple of days later his account was terminated because according to the ITP managers there was “suspicious” activity occurring on his account.
The managers didn’t even refund the money back and he was confused as to why he couldn’t get it back. This is when he was advised it was a ponzi scheme.
Poor guy lost his pension money because of some idiot telling him that investing in ITP would make him a millionaire.
Disgusting and outrageous that ITP are targeting the elderly so they can scam them.
How come yahoo finance out up some article on them saying they are a reputable tech blockchain research specialists and have won awards?
Also on site they show business licenses would that be approved if they where scammers.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
@Adam
1. Yahoo Finance published paid press-releases. They didn’t “put out” anything.
2. A shell company certificate is meaningless. Scammers routinely register shell companies with bogus information. There’s no approval process and it’s not a license.
Adam knows more than Yahoo Finance then? (Ozedit: derail removed)
Again, Yahoo Finance publishes paid spam. They don’t “know” anything about ITP Corp or the scammers running it.
Y’all falling for the oldest tricks in the scambook.
edit: oh dear, the barely literates are back.
@Scott C Sorry to hear this. This is happening so much and this is partly the reason why these scammers are making so much money. Please do take time to report it, even your local police, trading standards and especially ACTION FRAUD UK.
@Adam yes these are all paid. just search on Fiverr and you can get any article published across 400 sites for £300 and yahoo finance is one of them.
And getting certificates means nothing as Oz says. I can get get a UK Company setup with certificate in a few hours for £39 and don’t need to submit any accounts for 18 months.
@Darren M
Check out Billy’s mate Matt Tomlinson too. He’s big in the Wirral.
ITP has been removed from the play store … yet again. LOL!
@John
Yes thanks, seen him boasting too…. noted.
@buldaq
Nice. more updates .. LOL
great work guys, it’s been removed from the google play store
@Wolly P
You can still download it from a direct link to the google store. Just saying…
Well, the app might still be hosted by Google, hence the direct link thing. However, the page is no longer available, and most gullibles don’t even know that there is such a thing. So…
I think they have given up on the APP. You would think a MULTI MILLION trading firm would at least use their domain name on email rather than a GMAIL. Its actually probably being run from someone’s bedroom:
why nobody is suspicious of repeated App removal is crazy to me, the paragraph makes no sense whatsoever, they had to make a quick excuse and went with it LOL!
let’s try to get it removed from the app store. You know what to do boys.
Well to be fair, an “upgrade” every few days was probably wearing thin on even the UK’s dumbest people.
OK, time to bring out heavier artillery since we have a few people here who, like me, want to bring this scam down asap.
Their webapp uses an API under api.itpmax.com that is hosted by Amazon AWS.
You can see that evidenced here for example:
nslookup.io/domains/api.itpmax.com/webservers/
I have reported this to Amazon through this form:
support.aws.amazon.com/#/contacts/report-abuse
Where I included the API address in question and in comments explained that this is an Crypto Ponzi scam, pasted the link to this page (behindmlm) if they want to read more.
If the API goes down, most likely both mobile apps and web app will stop working.
As of this weekend I cannot log into my account. I had about 3k in there of my own money and was letting it spin up so i could take out my initial.
ITP have said there was suspicious activity on the account thats why they have shut it down.
Im slightly worried now as i have recruited some family members to it and dont want the same to happen to them.
@Harish Sanam
I am surprised people invest in these things without doing a few minutes due diligence.
I strongly advise you to go to your local police station and report it. On this chat there are links to all the ring leaders. If you are in the UK, report it to Action Fraud. Or wherever you are, report it to the relevant authorities.
Chances are it will happen to your victims you bought in aswell. YES they are all victims of this ponzi.
What reason shall i report it for? I hope this website gets removed.
when you click that link:
– AWS owned resources
– Category: Web Content/Non-Copyright IP
– Type of abuse: “Website hosting viruses/malware” or “Phishing” as there isn’t anything closer to “scam”
– url: “api.itpmax.com”
– comments: write here that this is an API for a cryptocurrency ponzi scheme app, and paste link to this behindmlm site for reference.
They will have to at least create a ticket for it in their internal system and will get investigated, so there is a chance someone clued up will see it and take action.
Your account probably got suspended for making multiple accounts in the same household @harish
@james med these people I recruited into it were not from my household so that can’t be the reason. They were other family members.
Just want to know what the suspicious activity was.
If the other accounts were created using the same IP address then they may believe you are just adding fake accounts so that you can invest more.
This goes against their business model. Not saying this is what you were doing, but there’s not a lot you can do about it as its a massive scam and you have no protection.
Be sure to report it to police, and add your story to trustpilot on these pages:
uk.trustpilot.com/review/itpro.top
uk.trustpilot.com/review/itp.club
You’re not the only one mate, as per earlier post my mates grandad was a victim of this, i tried making sense with some of the admins in the group to give him his money back as this is beyond outrageous, they said they don’t have proof as to how much he invested in the first place so he cannot get his funds.
This annoyed me so much and for sure 100% will be reporting this to the FCA/ action fraud.
A lot of people have been victims of this. Best bet now is report it to FCA/ Action fraud and report the app on the app store as per above comment(s) so less people will be a target for this malicious scam.
@serge maybe it was cause your grandad was inviting too many people that weren’t valid members.
Isn’t this failure of withdrawal a sign that the ponzi is beginning to crack??
It’s just a generic excuse, it could be anything. It could be that someone close to but above you in the pyramid was banned for realising it’s a ponzi and they want to keep your money because, hypothetically, if the number of child accounts isn’t that large there’s a good chance that person’s changed opinion could filter down to you.
And then they’d look at how much money you had “money in vs money out and standing balance” and determined that you were more likely to take more out than put in because on hearing it’s a ponzi your net is still negative.
Because the cultish system of shutting out AND banning naysayers from chat channels AND their “trading” accounts there is an incentive to prevent anyone that might quit from having any money.
Plus it prevents those people from saying “ponzi” because all they can say is that they were banned for “suspicious activity”.
It doesn’t have to be something you personally did, because it’s a scam and there are NO rules. It’s 100% abitrary and as far as I know everyone that’s been locked out has been told the same.
Being an MLM even when the rug is truely pulled people won’t realise for a few weeks. Especially if it’s a staggered rug based on greed.
Heck, it could be someone you recruited got banned for questioning the ponzi and they booted you because they know the other person is same family name and they want to keep your money.
90% of what I have wrote is speculation, but you got to be much more suspicious yourself and allow yourself to assume malice on their part.
Don’t try to defend scammers. They drain the balances and block accounts because they can. Reasoning is an afterthought.
Re: Mike
Perdriel? I’d be very surprised if he could afford a passport, much less international air flights. That man is a perennial loser from Far Rockaway, New York.
I remember him trying to bluff when he was into cash gifting pyramids. No class whatsoever.
reported, for the url don’t forget to put https:// before it otherwise it won’t recognise the url.
I advise anyone else reading this do the same, getting the website removed will definitely make this whole thing crumble.
@actionfrauduk @leicslive @metpoliceuk @CybercrimeCID @NCA_UK @PoliceChiefs @NTSscamsteam @TradeStandards @HMRCgovuk @HMRCpressoffice @TheFCA @SeriousFraud @UKSFO @Crypto_3C @BBCWatchdog
If you are on Twitter (X), please copy and paste all of the above AND POST IN ONE THREAD. Post your comments, photos, videos. Remember, you can always click the (+) to add a follow on post so it shows on 1 feed.
Hi @juice
On the 24th October you daid “In the last 24 hours itp has withdrawn 173million usdt from their wallet. It looks like they going to do a runner. Very soon.”
I am no expert on Crypto, can you please explain how you was able to see these transactions?
You guys have simply zero evidence and data to back any of your rubbish opinions. Reporting someone Fraud without evidence is a criminal offence and be mindful of legal consequence afterwards.
You can verify the evidence ITP Corp is committing securities fraud by checking with your country’s financial regulator.
Ignoring the evidence doesn’t mean it’s not there. And there’s no need for opinions when MLM + securities fraud = Ponzi scheme.
Clearly you have zero data to back this up. Stop your non sense fud
Securities fraud is verifiable data. Again, ignoring the evidence/data doesn’t mean it’s not there.
Your IP address is Australia. I could be wrong but going by your name, I’m guessing UK migrants have spread ITP Corp to their gullible relatives abroad?
You can check with ASIC that ITP Corp isn’t registered. Verifiable fraud as denied.
Security? What’s that here? Crypto is not classified as security! (Ozedit: derails removed)
MLM + passive investment scheme = securities offering. Whether cryptocurrency itself is a security or not is irrelevant.
This is basic MLM due-diligence 101. You don’t seem too informed on the topic.
You better know the laws first! ASIC has no jurisdiction on Crypto.
Literacy predictably isn’t your strong suit. Read what I wrote again, failing which spam-bin.
ASIC regulates securities in Australia and ITP Corp is committing securities fraud.
MLM + securities fraud = Ponzi scheme.
It’s not a passive investment scheme. Users have control over the trades!
Now you’re going to deny the business model?
You give crypto to Chinese scammers through an app and collect passive returns. You have no control over anything (as every schmuck whose invested in an app Ponzi has come to realize when it inevitably collapses).
@Aln Khi
You are obviously new to crypto, and are deluded to think that earning 2.5% a day is normal. They offer a passive income, they say its 2.5% a day, everyone on that G Level is earning 2.5% a day, therefore its a ‘security’, a security which has to be licensed. They focus only on ‘NEW MEMBERS’ bringing in new money…
Get educated on financial income and products before acting all like you know it all. If you are from Australia why don’t you contact ASIC to see if its ‘legit’??? why don’t you contact your local trading standards to see its legit.
Why don’t you ask ITP a multi million dollar company with a gmail address, and a website that looks like a 5 year old has done it. Blinded to see any red flags.
they made another additional URL link in case the other 2 goes down LOL ( why nobody questioning this is outrageous):
itprox.org
Does anyone have the urls to ITP’s wallet addresses?
Scroll up someone sent it before.
Seems like reporting the website to AWS did something as they were doing website “maintenance” few hours ago
Aln Khi appears to have a comprehension problem. He’s in the spam-bin.
Learning the difference between securities and cryptocurrency in and of itself would serve him well.
And banging on about arbitrage is pointless when ITP Corp fails to provide legally required audited financial reports, proving trading revenue is being used to pay withdrawals.
@Aln Khi: You do sound like the perfect target market for ITP-like schemes, blindly falling for whatever ‘technical’ explanation they are feeding you. How you think you have any ‘control’ over the ‘trades’ is outrageous to me. All you do is click a button. That’s not control.
Simple question, as raised above – why does such a high-tech innovative company with milti million $ flowing through it have a GMAIL address? Even the smallest of startups have their own email address domain.
And why do they keep getting taken off the App store? Why do they have to keep coming up with new websites?
Greed will convince you of anything.
why tf do they have 3 website domains?
To evade blocking of access and regulatory actions.
people are mass reporting the negative reviews on trustpilot. Outrageous.
They’re now running a 72 hour redeposit bonus encouraging people who have already invested to invest more money,
they removed my review WTF, they’re mass reporting every single negative review and spamming positive reviews. Insane!
@Dandelion
Yes this is a promotion tactic every few days. Focus on just getting new people. Chances they will find more people are high, rather than existing members just topping up their accounts.
It’s embarrassing that trustpilot can allow the positive promotion of such an obvious ponzi cult.
The scale of this thing is terrifying now, when they run out of idiots and pull the rug, the fallout is gonna be monumental.
In a way a cannot wait for this thing to collapse. I especially can’t wait for the “I told you so’s” I’ll be posting on Charlie Wildish’s channel.
He is so insufferable and is going to be partly responsible for a lot of people getting burnt – which will in turn effect people’s livelihoods and relationships.
I’ve got screenshots saved on my phone of some of his most ridiculous comments defending ITP, and I will be directly quoting them to him once this this thing collapses.
Same here also, but best bet for now is reporting them to FCA/ Action fraud to speed up the process.
@Wolly P
Good work. I have also filed a case with Action Fraud giving all the leaders details, Telegram Page and reference to Behindmlm.
Also FCA. I have also tweeted all the necessary bodies and enforcements . ANYONE who has twitter please refer to my post #307 above, copy and paste onto twitter.
I see a lot of muslim brothers, especially in UK are doing this.
This form of investment, ponzi scheme, is haraam (unlawful) per sharia as it’s considered fraud.
I advise anyone doing this to stop. You’re profiting off other peoples loss which is 1) morally wrong 2) illegal.
These deceptive practises are considered detestable as you’re profiting off people who are vulnerable in society (elderly, uninformed).
@Mo
I know a community of Mulsim Men and Women do this. They have all seen this site and read the comments. They are turning a blind eye. People also comment above that recruitment is happening in Mosques. Alot of them were victims of ONECOIN.
I think money turns a blind eye on your religion. Sorry to say. They don’t really care about their faith in this instant. They are enjoying the ill-gotten gains too much.
Sideloading dodgy apps from Ponzi scammers. I’m sure this’ll end well.
My friend, in our religion, acquiring money through ribā (ill gotten funds) is one of the worst acts you can do in Islam, God specifically forbade this.
Unfortunately nowadays many muslims still do it because money brings greed. Such muslims are not real muslims as they know it’s not allowed yet they still do it.
ah yes, downloading apps through APK. Nothing suspicious at all. Very legit.
it’s starting to become very popular in Poland, a guy came to buy sushi from England and got the restaurant manager involved, who is now calling people and telling others how great it is and to donate money, drama.
He also invited me, and I came across this website and read what is happening.
Yesterday Mack incriminated himself even more.
He was asked about registration with FCA and SEC again. He again said it’s only COINS/TOKENS that need to register. He is so thick, or clever and his sheep actually believe it.
Anyone who wants answers, why don’t you go to the FCA website or SEC website rather than believing a person who is committing a criminal offence?? Some people!!
Mack, people really are believing you.!! Karma will get you so so bad… If not you, it will be your nearest and dearest.
Everyone with Twitter
@NTSscamsteam have just posted, please follow them and reply to thier post ‘The average amount lost by victims is £1,730’,
Pictures, information, videos anything relating to this scam.
twitter.com/NTSscamsteam/status/1720386214656614523
Hi all. ITP is clearly dodgy as everyone is saying, what I can’t understand is how come people are actually making money from it? (Ozedit: snip, see below)
As long as new people sign up in a Ponzi scheme there’s money to steal.
Note the majority of people “making money” are looking at numbers on a screen. Minus MLM commissions most of the money people haven’t yet withdrawn doesn’t exist.
Oz, I’ve seen it with my own eyes. They are making money for sure.
Was in their zoom call yesterday, by judging by some of the questions asked, it seemed as though not many people are buying this scam..
Most kept talking about taking initials out then play with profit, question is if people know it’s a scam why are they still inviting other people, these people may include close friends and family, imagine ITP collapses tomorrow, their loss is the inviters gain.
Also another thing i caught out was everytime Mack got asked to show proof of ITP doing arbitrage trading, he completely dismissed the whole question and kept saying “find out yourself if you’re concerned”. Very weird.
Yes, you’ve seen numbers on a screen. Such to extent any actual withdrawals have been made, the people you know are stealing from people who joined after them.
You asked for an explanation and got one. Not going to argue inevitable Ponzi math.
My friend who is an ITP ‘investor’ sent me this which may be of interest to you guys. Certainly made me laugh.
This looks like a Telegram update. ITP Pro’s scammers pump out these silly messages a few times a day. The dum dums lap it up.
ITP on their official website (itpro.top):
What does that even mean tho @wolly p
No clue, I actually just wanted to point out the poor grammar/spelling mistakes. It’s not like they’re even trying to hide it anymore lmao.
My 5 year old nephew can spell better and that says a lot.
Just like to say thanks to Darren M & all others above who are working to shine light on what is actually happening with this scam & reduce the number of people who will ultimately lose their investments.
Someone is trying to recruit me in this ponzi ( no chance ) but they are very cult like and annoyingly just won’t let it drop.
He will probably make money out of it due to his early involvement but his gain will be others’ pain – he won’t admit it’s a fraud because when it does implode he can say that he didn’t know and how sorry he is for all his friends & family who have lost their money but not his fault!
Respect to you for not backing down and falling for this ponzi scheme even though it seems everyone in your circle is pressuring you into this. I know how it feels. You have my respect
Everyone, if you report to Action Fraud, please please mention the Leicester EVENT. Live recruitment event. Here is here is the link.
buytickets.at/itpcorporation/1045785
Also mention this link if tweeting all the law enforcing bodies
See POST 307 above and copy and paste all the twitter tags.
Also forward the link to this behindmlm itp page
Im trying to tweet once a day with loads of videos and photos
Then also mention MACK SUBEDAR real name Mahmood Subedar from Leicester and the other suspects.
These guys need to be caught
Facebook also!!! Reply to all the governing body tweets. follow them. The more people do it, the less people will join and get hurt
Reported to AF
This whole ponzi scheme is irritating me to the max now. Honestly fed up with it.
All people do around me is talk about this bloody ITP scam, everywhere even after advising them it’s a ponzi. They hold informal meet ups just to discuss how to recruit more people and how much money they made.
I honestly need this ponzi to collapse so I won’t need to hear their shitty conversations about how many people they invited. Doing me head in this.
Commissions are fixed with ITP when you have referred people but it seems today people are making less than yesterday with the situation unchanged as in no further money withdrawn and all people have done their clicks.
An admin said market fluctuation caused this but commissions are always fixed to whatever money the people who have been referred have.
I think they’re testing the waters with this and the plug is gonna be pulled soon.
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS!
Right now everyone is getting payed. Because lots of new people are joining.
But when it dies and collapses, which it will. Mark my words, 10s of thousands will be out of pocket.
It’s then you will look at who stole your money. It will be the likes of Mack. Billy, Darren, Matt Tomlinson Charlie etc.
If you are a member or not. Make sure you download all their evidence as you will need it, trust me..
Tomorrow I have a sceduled call with HMRC. MACK if you are reading this you deserve everything coming to you. I have recordings of everything !!
At Friday prayers, they amount of youth and adults promoting this was shocking.
They no longer come to pray in my eyes. The come to earn from a fraud model.
They come to promote this harram at the mosques. These people who promote these ponzis are not real Muslims. They are criminals in my eyes!! Team or no team.
Allah will punish you all in some way shape or form.
Oh thank you Darren for taking time out of your to call HMRC. Update us on this matter.
I genuinely cannot wait till this thing collapses, although as weird as it sounds, i will laugh at everybody who gave me a weird look when i told them it’s a ponzi. I will love it entirely.
Can’t even go a day without hearing that stupid slogan “let technology shine the light of life”. I cringe so hard when someone says it out loud.
Wait, so people in western countries are actually running around reciting broken English Ponzi slogans?
The secondhand embarrassment must be through the roof!
It gets worse, they have scheduled meet ups just to discuss how to make more money with ITP. One even suggested to buy more SIM cards so they can create more accounts to deposit more money in.
I advised these brothers that such actions is fraud and haram, yet they’re laughing at me and giving me a weird look when i say this.
They tell me i’m jealous that i didn’t put money in early, yet i knew about this since May.
Money is the root of evil and such actions could actually break families up when this scheme collapses.
From what i’ve heard from a couple of colleagues, they already started removing accounts slowly.
Right now they’re mainly aiming to remove G1 accounts with huge sum of money in because they’re not inviting more people.
Then when accounts get removed, they remove these people off the whatsapp groups so they can’t say it in the chat.
They label the account removal as “suspicious activity” or “money laundering” etc.
It feels as though ITP has already peaked and now on its downward spiral. The removal of the google play app boosted this.
@Mo Yes, everyones happy when they see the money. When it collapses its true, breaks up friends and families. People put way too much money in which then has a downward spiral.
@buldaq Yes this happens alot within these scams.
Like I have said before and will say it again. They will blame the collapse on people abusing the system because of ‘stacking’ accounts. But if it’s real trading then why should it matter how many accounts you have?
Either that or it will be a Hack for the excuse..
That’s not even the worst bit. They planning on moving to dubai once they supposedly reach a million usdt so they can cash it out over there. What they don’t realise is that they’re being an accomplice to a crime. Let technology shine the light of shit.
P.S since the google app is removed, is there any way to get the app store one removed also?
Also, Fluxon18.top seem like a clonned copyof ITP, maybe when then shut this one they’ll keep Fluxon18 going, unbelievable…
So, all you people investing in this here is your answer from the FCA in the UK, they are still conducting information. IT HAS TO BE AUTHOSIED BY THE FCA!! Also the SEC in USA works in a similar manner.
Nice job. Hope they act ASAP. Next step is getting the app store app removed. If we can all use the report feature on the app store ,then it may get deleted, if you can also give apple a call, please do so.
I am so glad I found this place.
My dad has been sucked into this ITP scam, and he’s so brainwashed there is no convincing him otherwise. I tried to show him logic and reason, proving it’s mathematically impossible for these trades to actually be taking place, but he insists it’s real for various reasons.
I wouldn’t normally care what he wastes his money on, but now he is dragging his whole family into this mess, promising them we will all be millionaires by the end of the year.
At this point, he’s even said that he doesn’t care if it does end up being a PONZI scheme, so long as he makes money off of it.
I can only wish this all comes crashing down soon.
Bloody scoundrels . Any people profiting from this and recruiting for this, I hope karma gets you and your families. You are a bunch of crooks thieves and no Morals.
All you gains will be taken away from you in some way. Watch. Bunch of thieves.
A lady at my work got about 10 people in this platform and always shows how much she is earning. Last night her house got robbed. And her wedding ring got robbed and a lot of cash ! That’s quick karma. I don’t feel sorry for her bloody thief.
They mass reported the apple.com forum that was describing ITP to be a ponzi scheme. Crazy
Yes, that was my thread and I got an email yesterday from apple saying that my post was removed due to not being constructive. Lol. Good job Apple, bunch of cretins.
I was told to report it to Scotland Police.
If a few of you could please also file a complaint. Also put the behindMLM link in your description. Also mention the big recruitment event taking place in Leicester. My Police Incident number is PS-20231107-3812
scotland.police.uk/secureforms/contact/
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/itp-corp-review-4-a-day-business-miracles-ponzi/
@Darren M
all the scam artist faces are shown here: testimonial.to/itpuk/all
Announcement on their whatsapp group:
I was recruited today by an acquaintance who i genuinely believe doesn’t realise it’s a scam.
He sent me a link for todays zoom meeting but I didn’t bother attending because in my head it seemed like a scam. I came online to find some info which I could present to him and ended up here.
After reading the comments I want to also contribute in stoping this scam besides the reporting can you advise me on what else I should do.
I’m thinking maybe join next weeks meeting and then ask questions which will make others think or maybe start private messaging people in the meeting warning them.
I think there are 3 categories.
1. They have no clue at all but because they have made profit and they trust and have faith in it.
2 . They know it’s a Ponzi but don’t care because they have taken out their initial investment.
3 newly recruits who are exited and hoping to make some money. This is the category we have a chance to save.
Let me know how I can assist.
By the way I live in Leicester if that helps in anyway.
1. MLM + no retail = pyramid scheme.
2. There’s nothing transparent about hiding from consumers information pertaining to ITP Corp’s ownership, as well as committing securities fraud.
3. Running a pyramid scheme and committing securities fraud is illegal.
Couple of my friends described ITP to me and wanted me to invite me to the zoom call for more info, which was held yesterday (thursday).
After Mack explained the business model I was very skeptical. He claimed ITP’s bot has a 100% success rate and guarantees 2.5% a day from arbitrage trading.
I knew this was way too good to be true as if that was possible then trading would simply not exist.
Mack also did a Q&A at the end where some people asked some intresting questions regarding the business model; he seemed to be making the answers on the spot and most of his answers made no sense whatsoever.
One even said they’re operating in an illegal ponzi scheme but Mack couldn’t really prove as to how he was wrong… Everything he said just gave me more reason why this could potentially be a ponzi.
I wanted to research more into ITP and upon doing so i found this website, which made so much sense. This is 100% a ponzi scheme and i don’t know why people think theyre making legit money.
If theres anything I could do to stop this let me know, because ITP has been spreading in my home town like coronavirus.
I have now reported to HMRC / AWS etc. The people I know who are really deep into it are still going on with it despite my multiple attempts to convince them to come off it and stop recruiting.
They don’t have much formal education behind them, and this is becoming a major factor in the people who have fallen deep into this.
This is spreading like wildfire among Muslim communities, mainly in the UK but it’s also made its way to Muslim families here in the Australia.
I don’t think it takes a scholar to figure out this is very wrong in terms of faith. Most obvious scam ever, most obvious ponzi scheme. How are people still falling for this in 2023?
A family member of mine “showed” me how the platform makes them money in an attempt to prove there is a product, and that the money isn’t coming from recruiting “hence not a ponzie.”
So you do a “trade,” which is one click, and then a prompt comes up that reads something along the lines of:
“Buying Bitcoin XX,500 on Coinbase…
*3 seconds later*
Selling Bitcoin XX,550 on Kucoin…
Profit $50 USD”
It’s actually hilarious how fake that is. At least try to make it seem realistic. It takes minimum a few minutes to move bitcoin from 1 exchange to another.
ITP is the 13th most downloaded app in the UK rn, seems like apple doesn’t give a crap about what they allow on the app store.. Does reporting even do anything?
The app just got removed from the app store rn. Lol. Here’s what they said on their whatsapp:
Ruhroh. Apple doesn’t allow sideloading do they?
Finally.. Apple are really bad as this app has been reported multiple times, posts on their forums were written about it (and removed by Apple later), I rang and personally spoken to support about it ages ago and yet nothing has been done until now, when the app reached top 15 apps used in the UK or something stupid like this.
Apple is complicit in my eyes because they ignored repetitively all the reports and signals they received.
Unfortunately apple allows side loading through configuration profiles, users have to sign an untrusted developer certificate (dodgy) to access the app.
P.S their excuse in the removal of the app on the app store is hilarious though, these dum dums eating it up like it’s nothing.
Good work guys. RIGHT, their big event is fast approaching and every few days i tweet all the authorities, especially Leicester Police as thats where MACK is holding it.
Please if you can create your own tweets. My handle is @DarrenM112233 just copy the authorities and departments I am tweeting and also videos and photos I am sending.
Feel free to add anything that can to catch attention to the main criminals.
FOCUSING ON THE LEICESTER EVENT
buytickets.at/itpcorporation/1045785
AND A LINK TO THIS PAGE
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/itp-corp-review-4-a-day-business-miracles-ponzi/
also report these 2 websites on ncsc.gov.uk/section/about-this-website/report-scam-website
itp.club/
itpro.top/
Why does it take so long for the people who have the power to close this down, to do something? This is massive now surely they now about it.
Honestly, the people who use ITP are retarded. Some of the people using it are people who have migrated to ITP after Stronghold closed.
I’ve also tried explaining to a friend of mine how it is impossible to do Arbitrage trading like ITP and how it typically takes for example bitcoin 10+ minutes to move to another exchange and he just tells me that it’s because the AI servers are fast.
Moreover, please report the side loaded app here:
fenzh1sj.com/qgjp8t
its looks like dodgy link i know, but this is where people are being told to download the app. At the bottom where it says “report”, click it to report the app.
Has anyone actually managed to put a report through with Action Fraud?
I just had a squabble with an agent who has straight out refused to take any report if I haven’t myself put my money into this, or I don’t have the name of someone who has done so and willing to come forward. I’m fuming.
I used the online facility- had to jump through a few hoops but left my comments about no trading evidence or audited reports even though ITP advise company inception in 2013.
Also that a recruitment meeting for this scam is to be held in Leicester on 19th November. Good luck.
@Jenny Yes I have with case number
NFRC231006252171 maybe you can quote this.
I did say that an elderly friend had invested in a crypto scam which is a ponzi. I gave all the details about this
https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/itp-corp-review-4-a-day-business-miracles-ponzi/
I gave details on Mack, Billy, Matt Tomlinson with their facebook profiles. Also, the Leicester Big Event.
So what i did is first create and account on the website with Basic details, then I called them to input all the other detailed information. Their webisite was giving 500 error which they are aware of. They were really good and asking loads of questions.
Maybe if you quote my case number and tell them you are in the same boat.
@Darren M
Are those people the founders/owners of the scheme? Or are they just “team leaders?” I’d be shocked if the founders doxed themselves. Jail time all over it
ITP Corp’s founders are Chinese scammers hiding in Asia.
I am super lucky and very glad that having recently joined ITP and being doubtful about there trade arbitrage speeds, I came across this string in my research to find answers and I have successfully escaped with all my investment today.
I would highly recommend everyone to escape as soon as possible and not let the greed get control of your minds. Making money is not easy in this world and if it sounds or look this easy then run in the opposite direction.
Thank you all the people behind this blog and who have contributed there time and put good research into this and are reporting this scums.
I appreciate all of you on behalf of all the idiots who’s minds are controlled by greed.
ITPs website itpro.top seems to be shut down, a lot of users are reporting problems accessing the website, seems like reporting the app is working. Keep reporting guys! (report itp.club)
@buldaq I am on a whats app group. Yesterday was showing their clicks were not working, but the still got their fake profits.
Today they are saying all their numbers are zero. But I think there was an update saying the site is undergoing maintenance. Lets see.
Confirmed, ITP Corp’s original website domain has been abandoned. Article up soon.
@MA
Mack seems to have inside knowledge on a lot of things. He knows about language updates, site maintenance before its happening, he knew about deposits amounts changing a couple of months ago. He arranges delivery of all their branded merchandise.
He seems to be heavily involved. As per BEHINDMLM a lot of the big leaders do get arrested after it collapses. I am sure when it does and people start complaining to authorities, his name will be up there.
Their website is back on, they’re nothing but persistent! I wonder how long it’ll take until the people investing in this pulls out of this because of these “updates”
There was a DNS change to the .TOP domain on November 14th. Perhaps a hosting problem.
You guys was acting like they had scammed out, why would they do that when they have an in person event on the 19th November.
Because “click a button” app Ponzis collapse and exit-scam without warning. Whether there’s a scam event coming up or not is irrelevant.
Why would Mack expose himself so obviously if he is someone who is heavily implicated in all of this? He’s either Stupid or knows something the rest of us don’t.
He knows some of the leaders in this project.
To report someone for fraud or a scam, must the crime be committed first? If authorities are going to make an arrest, there has to be evidence of fraud or a scam.
The question is, if no one has lost any money yet, therefore there is no scam?
When the rug gets pulled, maybe Mr Mack gets the first plane to India before they pull it to ensure he is out of the way when the fallout happens.
I imagine he would keep all his gains in crypto assets also.
Just because Mack is exposing himself doesn’t mean it’s not a scam. I’ve known about these ponzi schemes since ages, i know how these ring leader muppets operate.
As soon as this ponzi collapses, he will most likely go into hiding for a few months, whether that would be India, Dubai , doesn’t matter. But it doesn’t take long after that until he gets extradited because he’s left so many trails and it’s impossible not to find him again.
Mack is so wrapped up in the millions he is making, he is not and does not think about tomorrow and the consequences. If he came off Zoom Calls, or stopped his presentations, or stopped meeting people and taking videos and photos, then he knows recruitment will slow down. He needs the momentum. He is milking the moment right now.
He right now does not care as his plan B is ready. Like Wolly P mentions, he will be on his way to Dubai, India or Pakistan to live the rest of his life care free. For those that don’t know all PONZI promoters do this. He will flee and lead a great life.
Plus rememeber its all crypto. No BANK trails, no paper trails. The perfect crime, and he knows it.
watch…. just watch… it will collapse and when it does, all victims will be floking this website like you wont believe.
I have found it quite stunning how little online discussions are going on about this. If you report it to anywhere which is automoderated ITP users retaliate and your posts disappear.
Seriously the FCA are highly incompetent when giving out fraud warnings. That’s why these ponzi schemes are prevalent in the first place.
Its very unlikely that any of the authorities do anything pro active until they have scammed, and then people start complaining. It’s a sad state of affairs really. By this time the likes of Mack have positioned all their funds out of UK
I have tweeted a fair bit, tagged all the authorities. FCA ACTION fraud ETC.
I have focused my reporting and tweets on the event in Leicester. I am hoping the authorities have taken it into account and will have some kind of watch on the event.
Honestly, A lot of these scams end after a major event. People watch the event, get excited, invest and invite loads and then bang!!!
Not saying UK authorities aren’t incompetent, but tweeting at them rarely ever does anything. They can’t even resolve issues VIA 100s of phone complaints, i doubt they’ll take twitter complaints any more serious.
At this point from what i’ve witnessed, majority of people now joining already know it’s a ponzi, they’re just gambling and hoping to cash in profits before this ponzi collapses.
On the good side, the apps have been removed from thei store so it’ll be harder to recruit. Plus, many people are experiencing issues in accessing the website as UK is stepping in on this ITP domain ban.
The ITP App is back on the apple store…
I wonder if they’re counting on Apple taking forever to play cat and mouse, as opposed to Google nuking it again within 24 hours every time.
Oh well, back to reporting the app again :/
Apple may never learn
One of the admins in the chat have said the app will be available on the android play store by the end of this month ..
I understand it’s a ponzi from reading this article and the comments, but it seemed to raised a few concerns, why aren’t the authorities doing anything about this ponzi even though they’re well aware of it?
Also i understand you guys are reporting the app whenever it appears on the store again, but why do google and apple allow the app to just reappear again? Seems abit odd.
@Jay
UK authorities are notorious for being hopeless in regulating MLM related securities fraud. OneCoin stands out as the obvious example.
Nobody can really speak for Apple/Google. Policing on Ponzi apps on their respective stores (or lack thereof) is their responsibility.
Oh my days! PLEASE READ THIS.
So about 4 months ago my boss at work told me about ITP Corp and how much money he was making and that I should join his group.
He try to sell it to me saying that I was a clever man I could see when a once in a lifetime opportunity came up. So I said I will look at it.
The more I read about it I immediately thought this was a Ponzi scheme. I told my boss I won’t be joining he asked why and I just said I didn’t want to.
I thought that was the end of it. Over the past 4 months he has recruited over 70 people I work with. I only found this out 9 days ago.
So I sent via email this article to as many people as I could, and tried to explain what a Ponzi Scheme was to as many people as I know.
A couple of days ago my boss had reported me to head office saying I was disseminating slanderous, racist and transphobic information to multiple colleagues!
I am now suspended without pay whilst head office investigate. Unfortunately for me his father is head of operations.
I just want anyone out there who is IN ON this SCAM. That it actually does ruin the lives of families. Whether directly or indirectly.
Your GREED will cause other people’s Suffering.
And don’t worry about me I have hired a VERY good employment solicitor.
@Jay I feel you man. It’s a common occurrence. The have adapted to cult like mentality. Nothing and I mean nothing will change their mind. Even if tomorrow the FCA but a warning out, they will think FCA have no clue.
Their ill gotten gains will be received by karma in some way shape or form. It’s blatant theft
Hold your head up high in sticking through with it. Money is evil sometimes.
Keep us posted with their feable excuses when it crashes which it will.
One great thing is that when it does crash, even if they got their **original money** out, they will so truely believe that the capital they had still riding was “their money” that they will be tortured for months if not years about having not “got more out”.
IIRC some victims of these scams (from those that were warned and stayed in or recruited after being warned) never accept that the “numbers on a screen” was not real money.
Of course, this will make them bitter, and as you say, more vulnerable to karma.
I recently failed to convince a friend of mine that it was a ponzi, shockingly I found out that she’s now split her “investment” between two different click a button ponzi’s as a shield against me being right.
Like, if you believe there’s a risk of an [inevitable] “rug pull” but don’t believe it’s a ponzi and thus base theft, why do that, why split between two pools.
I feel she’s literally lying to me (about not believing it’s a ponzi).
She’s a C.Wildish fan.
I truely don’t understand how someone can reach the brain state required to need more than what is written on this very web page to believe it’s a ponzi.
I knew the moment I heard the words AI trading, before I’d even heard about the compounding daily returns. Because I already knew how AI works (differently from algorithms).
Mac Demarco
Bide your time and document everything, and contact your former colleagues once this Ponzi has collapsed.
They’ll be pissed at the boss and some might help you win a court case against him. If you want to litigate of course.
In any case, you can be real proud of yourself for standing up for what’s right and your next employer will be very lucky to have you.
Cheers !
So today is the event day. I have done a fair bit of reporting and been tweeting with all authorities tagged regularly. The authorities must know it is happening. If anything is being done today in terms of investigation I know they won’t publish it in any way.
My next step is to send a detailed report to BBC WATCHDOG as they covered the ONECOIN scam
Let’s just wait and see
I live in Leicester, i was driving past the venue just short of 30 mins ago, can’t believe my eyes. There’s a huge crowd gathered outside the arena and many of them wearing ITP shirts. Majority of them looked like immigrants too which is sad to see. ITP is 100% targeting them because they’re easy to convince.
@Mo
If I was in Leicester I would have brought a banner with the words “ITP PONZI SCHEME”.
I would, but they’d call the authorities for “hate speech” or “racism”. UK police focus on petty stuff rather than heinous crimes
Any here attended that event tonight? Interested to know what got said.
They’re not holding their supposedly “11th” anniversary of thanksgiving day since ITP inception by hosting a huge new deposit event. “If you deposit 37,023 you will receive 37023”. WTF?! And nobody is asking where they’re getting this money from…
They won’t answer because it’s just money on a screen and it’s all arbitrary!
Who said that a few days ago?
First a huge event, then a try to let people deposit huge amounts of meny, and then pull the plug.
THey now seem to double the deposits, right after the big event. What’s next?
@M bader
I have seen some clips on FB, just search ITP Conference, Mack doing a live 50k withdrawal and some spew about how he’s not doing it for the money and crap like that.
@lolli yes i seen this on a group I am in. This is a technique used by scammers. Normally their incentives are for new members, this looks like it opened for old and new.
This technique is playing mind games with members and normally means a LAST SMASH AND RUN!!
All the stuff about future leadership summits again is all mind games making people think its going to be here in 6 months. There will be nothing of the sort.
So yes, todays message could be the beginning of the end??? Lets see…
@lolli yes.. So many ponzis adhere to this. They hold an event and put out a huge redeposit event where users can “double” their money.
Like Darren said, it’s all mind games, as ITP after the event has now gained a lot more respect, so people would trust ITP more to put more money in.
However this is certainly a last ditch effort to get as much money as they can before they start the phase when excuses start happening.
They’re also increasing withdrawal limits for every G level. G1 has max 50k withdrawal limit now (till end of Dec) Where have we seen this before…..
Beginning of the end perhaps?
@buldaq
Wait, I see all the rest as a continuing of the scheme, the big event and now this absurd revenue bonus, it really sounds like the last fire, but I don’t get why the more withdrawal limit could fit in this scheme.
Following a Ponzi scheme now they want all the people to put more money as possible with the bonus excuse and then within the next 21 day when everybody would withdraw the bonus to run away.
But if you move the limit up, a smart one could take the mazimum from this bonus and then withdraw immediately paying the 7% fee.
I continue to say that this ITP it’s really strange, as other said already it’s true that a lot of people will loose their money (at the end) but at this point also a lot of people have earn lot of money…. I don’t know! I give up!
I don’t think it ends here for the bonuses they made it so you have to deposit a specific amount for example $1002 you have to get it on 1002 or else you won’t get the bonus.
I think there will be a lot of people depositing without receiving a bonus as they deposited over or maybe under since there are fees.
I could be wrong but isn’t increasing withdrawal limits suggest that ITP want more users to indirectly deposit more money to make an illusion that users can withdraw more money out but in reality its to just give an incentive for more deposits?
On what the last 6 commenters have said if I’m reading this correctly you’re suggesting it seems as though the persons running it (from asia) is gambling on Christmas greed to drive up recruitment in early late nov/December with a “pay for you Christmas recruiting bump”.
Due to, perhaps, there being many people that believe their ITP balances are real and will spend that money for chrismas out of their existing finances/credit, but not actually make platform withdrawals.
People will wait as long as possible to make withdrawals afteral “why withdraw at start of december when you can borrow and leverage the December ITP doubling to pay for Christmas”.
And as Christmas is not the big annual holiday for immigrant communities in western nations they’d not mark it as an event which could compromise a ponzi.
Insidious.
Just tried to visit itp.club (the web version of their app), and getting a blank screen, is it the same for everyone else?
.CLUB has been disabled via DNS, .TOP is still working.
What I should expect is that they make withdrawals impossible actually.
What i meant was smoothbrains would get excited about the higher withdrawal limits so they’d deposit more money in thinking that they can withdraw more at once, what ITP want now imo is as much money coming in, seems like it’s a last ditch attempt to get as many people depositing and it’s f*cking working.
There’s an error people are reporting, ITP claiming it’s due to many people depositing in. But could be a different reason, who knows.
Double Deposits, double withdrawals, summits, leadership events. haha the scammers know how to fool people. Even MACK knows, pulling off a big event like that will get a last ditch deposit frenzy.
Remember, in the past focus was purely on NEW MEMBER DEPOSITS as there is a big chance to grow the network with them also finding new people!! BUT NOW ITS ON ALL MEMBERS.
In my next post I will send details of MACKS wallet address.
TToiAR9JvXghv53XynCtHugnS2qw7Vb2Vf
This is Macks USDT TRON Wallet address, he did a 50k live withdrawal yesterday which he received a few hours later and then instantly moved it out probably off line or sent abroad to avoid detection from HMRC etc.
He is paying the 7% as he knows its worth the risk as it could end anytime !!! In the last 7 days he has withdrawn over 200k each time paying the 7%
The withdrawal came from:
THixt3o6xaPa8vPcMSakpaGm9g6PVdtXVN
To which withdrawals are still happening as of 1 hour ago.
I know BEHINDMLM does sometimes gain traction from Authorities. So I will leave this here.
What they’re doing now is persuading people who made their withdrawal profits to put their profit money back in (because of this double money event), so ITP will have a larger sum to steal.
Textbook from ITP, you don’t need to be smart to realise.
Well guys in 3 days time we will see if what everything is being said he is true or not
Double money deposit event.. This won’t end well.
Guys, report the app store app again. It keeps reappearing despite multiple reports. It’s already top 15 most downloaded apps in the UK this month despite its removal a week ago.
Also, anyone who reported ITP to FCA/AF have they got a response yet? They seem to be taking their time dealing with this. It’s been a month.
@Darren M @Oz
Just to let you know, MACK mentioned behindMLM during the conference , sarcastically saying he’s the biggest scam artist in the UK, “they know my name”.
Also mentioned how he couldn’t sleep at night for the past 4 days to keep trading standards from attending the event.
Scammers having a meltdown = always funny.
@buldaq
Oh really?
Well it’s nice to see his reading the comments. Something he told his sheep to ignore.
Right now, he probably won’t be phased. It’s when it collapses and people start contacting action fraud and watchdog where he will regret what he’s doing
He will be peoples number one point of target.
Yeah I got you here.
Of course they want people to deposit more by offering them the 100% deposit bonus.
But to prevent people to immediately take away their bonuses, I ‘d expect they block the withdrawal functionality.
Yep agreed. What’s in it for ITP to create this double event thing, theyre essentially losing money by giving everyone a chance to double their money. That’s why i think they’ll disable withdrawals slowly. Because if they don’t and let everyone withdraw, especially after the double money event, ITP are losing money themselves if that makes sense.
Coscoin are doing the same thing – double money event. Seems like it’s owned by the ITP scammers.
AMMDEFI did this last year too and rug pulled everyone shortly after this double money event. Watch this space…
Looks like this is the address where everyone’s deposit is going to? TXWtw3tprZmgjReL9TbZJbp5qFtwShj4AQ
Another thing is they’ve increased withdrawal limits to 20k, meaning no incentive to increase your G level. This means that itp are going ahead with this exit strat.
@Darren M reference post #442.
I believe the way ITP works that is impossible.
There is a 72 hour delay (holding period) on such delay large withdrawls.
Also intrigued how you know the money was moved out of the country? Or is that speculation?
@M Bader
I have noticed everytime he does a live withdrawal mostly on zooms it shows up soon after. Def not 72 hours. Unless he is doing the same withdrawal 72 hours prior if that makes sense.
As for moving the funds. It is speculation. Its what most crypto ponzi criminals do. They all know if they cash out here and enters a Uk bank it can be retraced if he was ever held accountable in the future for this crime.
1. A single deposit of any amount between $263 and $264 (including $263 and $264) gives you a bonus of $263
2. A single deposit of any amount between $623 and $624 (including $623 and $624) gives you a bonus of $623
3. A single deposit of any amount between $1,523 and $1,524 (including $1,523 and $1,524) gives you a bonus of $1,523
4. A single deposit of any amount between $3,223 and $3,224 (including $3,223 and $3,224) gives you a bonus of $3,223
5. A single deposit of any amount between $6,723 and $6,724 (including $6,723 and $6,724) gives you a bonus of $6,423
6. A single deposit of any amount between $11,023 and $11,024 (including $11,023 and $11,024) gives you a bonus of $11,023
7. A single deposit of any amount between $23,023 and $23,024 (including $23,023 and $23,024) gives you a bonus of $23,023
8. A single deposit of any amount between $37,023 and $37,024 (including $37 023 and $37,024) gives you a bonus of $37,023
You must strictly follow the deposit amount to get the bonus.
For example, a deposit of $1,523.5 will give you $1,523 whilst deposit of $1526 will not give you a bonus.
Seems like to flee ia coming closer.
It is going to finish… the HUGE incoming cash is being redistirbuted to new wallets for example:
TEH1LejvA8NnDjYYMtq1MGX1xZXWvH1LVV
TCQg7XLedr17NvJ8BLj8cA55ZdBQdUeKwy
TGBEdf4XBEnTphuVW3cRdnK1HrRhW3bHyF
and others.
some of this wallets have been opened yesterday.
Seems like every 30-1h they’re depositing 200k to different addresses. Happening at a rapid rate since a lot of people are depositing in rn. Not looking good for ITP users.
TXWtw3tprZmgjReL9TbZJbp5qFtwShj4AQ
@Jay
Please could you tell how do you check this information? I would like to show it to some ITP friends.
Thanks
By the way, I’m in a ITP World chat and people are getting crazy with this bonus, but there are also some who try to give alert but they are insulted by all the rest. This morning the Administrator wrote this:
In order to create a friendly communication atmosphere and a positive ITP community, please follow the group rules:
✅ 1. It is forbidden to private message group members, and you may not lead other group members to private message you. (If you receive a private message from a group member, you can report it to the ITP administrator)
✅ 2. No discussion of topics not related to ITP in the group, no sharing of links (don’t click on strangers’ links).
✅ 3. No one can spread false news that is not confirmed by ITP and defame ITP. (Any updates are subject to official ITP announcements)
⚠️ Once someone violates the group rules, ITP has the right to deny the use of the ITP account!
Please could you tell me how do you check this information?
Head over to tronscan website and put the address in. Scroll down to “transfers” and filter it to “out”.
They’re rapidly transferring out 200k every 30m-1h to a different wallet address to hide their tracks.
I’ve been scanning this address for days , and since the event, they’ve been transferring out at a much faster rate now.
People still managing to complete successful withdrawls according to the ITP Uk Group I’m in, no sign of the withdrawl function being stopped yet.
Also has anyone considered that the bonus offer is very specific and a lot of people will no doubt get it wrong and not receive the bonus? Meaning a good way to boost the core fund???
I mean it’s not something that’ll last forever no doubt but I think you may be premature in suggesting collapse is imminent.
Having checked blockchain transactions on some of the wallet addresses, funds are moving around at some crazy pace. Funds are being deposited thick and fast.
There are new wallets and not linked to any exchanges. I guess they will be transferred to exchanges a few months after it collapses, thats what happens to other ponzis.
And yes lump sums of round figures are be distributed to various wallets.
Something is brewing….
The following is the wallet that paid Mack on his 50k live withdrawal. No withdrawals have been made since midnight last night.
usdtscan.com/wallet_info_trc20?id=THixt3o6xaPa8vPcMSakpaGm9g6PVdtXVN
Could be a delay on the particular USDTSCAN. But 9 hours is a long time.
@M Bader
You say they are getting withdrawals. when the last one was?
From what I can see it was 9 hours ago. If you have any wallet address, please post it. I will take a further look
Thanks
Withdrawals started to flow…
it looks like scammers decided to take more…
well after Thanksgiving there is Black Friday, and Cyber Monday… oportunities to next “super bonuses”.
Currently 6 billion plus in this account which connects to the others. Honestly sad that so many people have fallen for this.
tronscan.org/#/address/TWd4WrZ9wn84f5x1hZhL4DHvk738ns5jwb
@Ben Yeap looks like it
@Mohammed this seems to be one of the Biannce Cold Wallets
ITP are just gonna let people take withdrawals on these, but when it comes to the Christmas event, they’ll make an even more ridiculous event to triple your money, people will think it’s still legit as the thanksgiving one paid out, but the Christmas one is when it’ll collapse IMHO.
@Mohammed they’ve made way more than 6bn, that’s just one wallet, they don’t have a master wallet because it’s spread between hundreds of different wallet addresses.
bonus for investment + increased withdrawal limit = reinvestment “loophole” which will trap even more money.
It would be fairly straightforward for ITP to block withdrawals with an error message and then ban accounts for ‘suspicious activity’ at this point, so it’s just down to how greedy they’re feeling.
This is definitely a Ponzi scheme. I invested £1,000 into this but after found out it was a Ponzi scheme (I should have done research first so my own fault) but either way I thought I just ask them for reassurance.
They have a WhatsApp group so I messaged saying I’m trying to recruit new members but everyone saying it’s a Ponzi scheme and wanted to see how they defend themselves or what I can say to prove it’s nots.
Instead my message was immediately deleted, I was removed from the WhatsApp group and my ITP account was blocked!
When I messaged them saying why am I blocked they said it’s because of my message and blocked my ITP for a week whilst they assessed the damages to them.
They started treating me like I’m a scum saying what is your job, you job will never pay as much as you get here and really made me feel insecure about myself.
At the same time I got really worried because I have invested a £1,000 so I tried to sweet talk them so I get my account back. They said because what I said about Ponzi scheme, they will unlock my ITP but I cannot withdraw any money until I get 5 recruits.
That got me even more worried I was like what if I cannot get 5 recruits, does that mean I can never withdraw or what if it takes me like 2 years does that mean I cannot withdraw for 2 years.
Because I said this, they blocked me again just for asking questions. Other words I lost my £1,000 just for asking a questions and asking what do I say when someone asks this is a Ponzi scheme.
I would never recommend ITP to anyone. BIG SCAM!!!
I would say if you don’t believe me, just ask them in their WhatsApp group if it’s a Ponzi scheme and see what happens.
If you do that, just heads up, make sure you withdraw all your money first so they don’t have an upper hand on you and treat you like dirt.
The scale of this, 6bln, it’s just silly. Yes, eventually it will collapse but the people who are currently promoting it and those who were early, made shit loads of money.
Authorities don’t give s fuck clearly as it’s all running undisturbed. The longer I watch it, the more I think that they are deliberately allowed to run and someone is taking a cut.
6bln… let that sink in.
6bn… Jesus christ. And to think they only given out 2-3% of that away…
Mack has blood on his hands. No doubt he will be a wanted fugitive when this collapses. Already hearing rumors that he’s moving to dubai soon.
I can assure you the amount stolen through ITP Corp isn’t anywhere near $6 billion.
It seems that this “Mr. Mack” is not just a mere pawn in this scam. Another 47,500 USDT has just been sent to his wallet. But when the order was placed on the withdrawal wallet: THixt3o6xaPa8vPcMSakpaGm9g6PVdtXVN, was no necessary amount.
So it was loaded with 50k USDT 18 seconds before the withdrawal to the “Mr.Mack” wallet.
Does this mean they laundered it for him or that the withdrawal was duplicated: like a bonus?
They’re withdrawing money from the deposit address ever so quickly now. A few days ago it was every couple of hours, since late yesterday, they’re withdrawing every 10mins (200k/10min).
This suggests they’re quickly trying to move their funds to prepare for their exit plan. The next few days will be interesting.
All eyes on the wallets, look how quick they are withdrawing money from wallet to wallet. If you think this is normal then you’re stupid.
@Ben hes definitely not just a pawn
I seen a video earlier where he is speaking at an event somewhere and introduces himself as Mr Mack, head of ITP UK.
22nd Nov 2023 – These scammers are so good. Using technology like this to con-vince 1000’s of people out of £1,000’s of pounds each, thieves.
I was intrigued, so put in some crypto profits (Tron USDT) is the crypto of choice for these scammers, so I don’t lose anything from my bank account, just to see how the scam works.
These guys are good at scamming, I mean they have perfected the art, as authorities know and have been warned, but are helpless, or cannot do anything until the crime is committed, as the scam unfolds before their very eyes.
ITP & Mr. Mack Subedar hold flamboyant events, last one in Leicester on Sunday 19th Nov 2023. At one point, Mack Subedar (scammer) shouted and I quote “I am a scammer” on stage in front of 700 victims, each of who have invested £1,000’s and convinced family and friends to do the same.
Most of whom, again invested £1000’s the very next day to ‘double-up’ their investment. I just knew it was a scam, but others are too convinced to see the devil at work. And yes, this is the devil’s work!
It will ALL go down soon after this double up ‘Thanksgiving Event’ which started 48 hours ago, with a 72 hour wait period to withdraw any ‘so called bonus/profit’.
They are literally giving a $500 food voucher for free, lies as they steal food from vulnerablemouths. Scam written all over it!
Admin on the WhatsApp group remove any negativity quickly. I gained access to save as many people as I could. Just stopped a lady putting a large amount in, as she was about to get scammed.
I did my duty (inspired by Kitboga and Scammer Payback on Youtube), if only the authorities in the UK did their duty and worked proactively, they would save thousands of people from losing £1,000’s just before the holiday season, when people are desperate.
These scammers will get away with £millions$. They have already planned their exit.
(Ozedit: derails removed)
This action looked like this. There is no money on withdrawal wallet –> Mack want to withdraw –> wallet is recharged –> Mack withdraws
@Ben Yes good spot!!
It’s like he has access to this wallet, or he knows who does. I mean the transactions were like 20 seconds apart. No withdrawals to other wallets for around 12 hours.
Wow thanks guys for this. My stepdaughters involved in this scam. She put in 100 dollars and now has 600 dollars from what she tells me.
I tried to tell her but she was off with me so I’ve had to leave her to it to find out the hard way!
I’m glad I never got involved and hope this is shut down soon.
They’ve extended the event for another 48 hours… last ditch attempt.
@Wayne Cadman
It’s the worst when you see family members fall into these schemes. At least you have tried to tell her.
But yes, don’t start banging on about it to her now. Let her learn the hard way. Ponzis ruin friends and family relations, just some of the consequences.
You can tell ITP are gonna pull a runner shortly after this event. The bonus money usually comes to the account within 24 hours, however this time it’ll take 72 hours for some reason. The fact that they extended the event too means they’re going all or nothing at this point. Cant wait to see how this folds…
A lot of nervous heads around.
Have a friend in this , share the comments here to them. It’s will be 10 % return per day on next scam.
There a lot of suckers out there.
The sites .top and .club are down for me now using Virgin.
.TOP is down here, .CLUB still working.
Cosetek (coscoin) are doing the exact same event with the same amount which will be “doubled”. They’re both owned by the same chinese scammers that owned AMMdefi. Its so obvious.
While we understand your sentiment, the exact percentages are chosen very carefully to balance recruitment and withdrawals over the longer time period.
The rate at which the imaginary money rises on people’s accounts has to be balanced with greed. There’s advanced psycology and maths behind these scams.
Many of the victims see the numbers on those screens as an extension of their personal wealth, and 10% daily compound would cause withdrawals to vastly exceed deposits within, at my uninformed guess, 6 weeks from starting.
Human greed and fomo, have to be balanced with sensibilities. Although I admit I’ve found it staggering when multiple people send the same screenshots from a compound interest calculator indicating the annual return at daily 2.5% compounded.
And think that return is reasonable – because they don’t understand that if the AI could do that (100% of the time) the markets would collapse.
As I’ve noted I was sus the moment they said “ai trading”, but how does someone share 2.5% daily compounding and not be “too good to be true”.
So what will happen to this Mack guy when they pull the rug?
He was visibily agitated in Leicester, I’m really interested. He should go to prison.
Both ITP Corp website domains are now down for me. I’ll leave it a few hours before calling a collapse.
Update: DNS records for both domains are showing a “clienthold” status.
From ICANN;
icann.org/resources/pages/epp-status-codes-2014-06-16-en#clientHold
That quick? Sites are the only indicator? Could be that they again have to point domain to a different hosting, no?
First MLM Ponzi? This is how the end-game plays out. Only reason I don’t call it now is precisely for the reasons you brought up.
.club still working for me in UK
It is first one I follow so close, yes 🙂 Hence no experience and no “feel” for it.
I am only here to help bring it down and see it collapsing, to be able to double down on calling the people who tried to lure me into this “fucking morons” 😉
There’s a few redflags that usually indicate they are circling the drain:
Website changes
Name changes
App changes
Regulatory warnings
Payment issues
How/if they recover depends on how well recruitment continues.
The last event looked pretty expensive with exotic dancers etc on the stage.. Was that not targetted towards existing users, to double down and reinvest, rather than recruiting new ones?
All ITP websites are down, none of them loading. Exit plan initiated as per previous comment(s). Let the excuses begin..
When this thing collapses (looks like it’s imminent), I have no doubt that the ring leaders of ITP will blame it on something arbitrary.
ie – some-sort government conspiracy that because they were making SO MUCH money, the higher classes/illuminati banking corps had to put a stop to it. It’s the same crowd as the anti-vax.
Parties are to keep old investors from withdrawing,and keep recruiting
.club is still working w/o problems in Poland. I’ve checked few times today, no problem at all.
Siemanko 🙂 Also working in the UK, I’m currenlty in the office, on BT internet. Could be just cached by ISP though, possibly.
Nobody legit starts blocking countries from access without lawsuits from their countries regulators, they are spiralling.
None of the websites are working for me now on O2 or virgin.
Put Mack Subedar (aka Fakih Mahmood Subedar) in Prison!
I’ve been in ITP for 4 weeks with $100. I never did intend to invite anyone until I saw real proof.
Today I got thrown out of a what’s app group because I had not and still refused to refer anyone. So today I submitted a withdrawal for $100 even though my balance was more.
I’m not continuing with any quantative crap. It’s all fake and they make you recruit. Please don’t invest. They force you to find new members.
The new domain is
itpmax.com
Many people speculating it’ll collapse during Xmas time.. But I don’t seem to understand how it’ll last until then due to the double deposit event, if majority withdraw, itp will be losing money doing this. Anyone else thinking the same?
Hi,
Is there risk of being in trouble for being part of this? I currently have a couple hundred in the account and click daily?
ITP have put out an announcement that if your withdraw gets delayed over 72h you will be compensated with $100,000. LOL!
Ooof, another red flag.
When they have to incentivize more deposits you know they’re desperate.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for surviving to the new year.
And in the meantime, Charlie Wildish just posted his testimonial, bragging about stealing 2K per day and 600 people lured into this. Good evidence.
Despicable.
@oz you should also mention when creating an account on the website, you don’t even need a real mobile number (i tested this), i used a bogus fake number and was able to register
He’s so dumb he doesn’t realise that when this thing collapses, he’s setting himself as a prime target for doxxing.
There’s going to be A LOT of angry people, and he’s literally put his full name and face on the internet for all to see.
Haha, it’s a confession, not a testimonial.
Wow, he’s really small fry, it’s quite sad because his videos have been used to recruit a LOT of people and out 10,000 USD every 5 days and more than a day to generate that his acct balance must be tiny.
The way he talks about it suggests to me he’s a really good liar/actor or he really doesn’t know/care if it’s a ponzi.
Funny how he doesn’t mention the AI at all though, just the recruiting/MLM. No conscience perhaps?
Being an ex ITP user and some little experience and knowledge of OneCoin.
ITP is getting huge and I think they will pay out this time as Christmas and New Year is just coming and that’s when the run a huge event for 4-5 days and disappear.
If it’s around 6 now it will be 20 with the trust they carry forward after this event. Wake up AUTHORITIES.
@Minzi
Not needing a mobile number is because it has nothing to do with operation of ITP Corp.
If anything they’d be collecting numbers, probably to spam reload scams when ITP Pro inevitably collapses.
@Anonymous
It’s unlikely you’ll steal enough money to be a top net-winner at this stage.
More than likely you’re going to be in the majority that lose money, against which no regulatory action will be taken.
COSCOIN HAVE MADE THEIR EXCUSE OF BEING HACKED! COSCOIN HAVE MODT DEFINITELY PULLED THE RUG AND ITP HEADING TOWARDS THE SAME FUTURE.
The worst thing is the Leicester guy aka Fakih Mahmood Subedar has committed fraud before and his details and address are readily online.
What a complete idiot.
It’s been 72 hours and people still not got their withdrawal. End of ITP. They’re going to make an excuse soon
@Wayne Cadman Can you provide anything on his previous fraud/crimes.
@buldaq They just sent 150k to the withdrawal address. So maybe they are about to send some out or Macks taking a bonus for his event lol
The admin on the whatsapp chat just wrote this:
… tomorrow at this time I will receive 100k from ITP, I’m so lucky! :DD
Wait what? The “withdrawal guarantee” is now a bonus you have to apply to go into the draw for?
Ponzi admins, lulz.
Guarantees don’t mean the same translated in Chinese probably.
Well guys ITP has already folded withdrawals are now packed up and they I think you guys should investigate admins and people like billy or Andreas.
I just asked a colleague to show me the app and it wouldn’t load. He went to the website and showed me the pinned post that says things like ‘we are under attack from liars spreading false information’ and ‘we can show the last 72 hours of withdrawals to prove it’s real’.
They’re offering $100,000 to anyone who doesn’t get their money in 72 hours… circling the drain.
Unfortunately, I think it’s too late for anyone to get out now, and people are still putting in!
I’d prepared a joke tin of “Magic Beans” to sell to my boss (3 heads of department are signed up and recruiting colleagues) but I’m not sure the timing is right anymore.
Darren in private mate. Google his name and you’ll see.
Download all evidence, screenshots of whatsapp, telegram, Charlie Wildish channel and his replies in comments, videos.
Let’s not let them get away with this, they can easily delete their channels and comms, try to cover their tracks.
Charlie’s main video has gone I can’t seem to find it!
Fun behind the scenes fact: All the shill spam this review was getting has dropped to zero overnight.
Always fascinating watching implosions happen live
The Charlie Wildish testimonial video is still live and available to view.
Based on multiple WhatsApp groups withdraws are starting to land in crypto exchange wallets.
Doesn’t seem like this is the end yet… big Christmas bonus first perhaps?
I’ve downloaded all the Charlie Wildish YT vids, also grabbed all of Ryan Lomax Glover’s (RLG Trading) and Mark on Crypto’s too.
Will try and spend more time later on getting more.
MCB the people who are getting their withdrawals are from the people before the bonuses , everyone else it’s just showing up as completed but the money won’t hit their crypto wallets so the rug has already been pulled
All the way through this whole ponzi since I’ve been aware of it the one strange thing has always struck me.
Whether people know or don’t know it’s a ponzi people always say the same two phrases. “Don’t ‘invest’ more than you’re willing to risk.” and “After the first double withdraw half ‘so you’re risk free and playing with house money'”.
But in each case when you ask them what the risk is that they speak of, the risk which they only mention to indemify their conscience, they can never actually articulate it.
Whatever they say I ask “what possible risk could there be with ‘investing’ with a 100% accurate AI trading platform which NEVER loses money?” they just don’t seem to know what the risk actually is.
When my friend tried to get me into it she admitted that she’d got 2000 in her bank but only put 200 into ITP, told me how ITP doubles every 31 days but what she couldn’t tell me, why she only put 10% of her liquid capital into it.
What risk? What risk?
To me it’s not risk at all because the related hazard is cannot be mitigated against.
I don’t understand how so many people aren’t put off by someone that says “this will make you risk free” without being able to articulate the relevant hazards which make the thing risky.
Sorry I’m not adding value here. Trying to figure out how to tell which people know it’s a scam and which don’t care.
Fuck risk. Math is math and the majority of investors in Ponzi schemes are guaranteed to lose money.
Also trying to work out who knows it’s a scam or not is pointless. “Sorry for your loss” and move on.
There’ll be a new bunch of these stupid Chinese app Ponzis targeting ITP Corp victims within a week.
@gill good work.
When people actually realise their money is gone, they will come flocking here. Then we can guide them on where and whom to report too. They will need all this evidence.
I would SAY TO EVERYONE READING THIS. Download everything off MACKS telegram channel before he removes it.
I guess. I definitely come to the position that trying to convince anyone that isn’t alarmed by the words “this looks like a ponzi (with explanation)” is only going to be alienated by any attempts to explain it.
I stopped talking about it with those that failed to introduce me.
I just struggle with observing the cognitive dissonance involved with saying something is risky but not being able to identify the applicable hazard.
Btw, ITP has a 4th domain. https://itp.club/
From: Mr. Mack
Lol, keep praying guys! No doubt he wrote that in the departures lounge!
ROFL, those red flags are the crypto platform telling you that the government has seized your crooked Ponzi scheme funds.
All incoming deposits go to the wallet ending j4AQ.
0750 (UK time) this morning that wallet sent 300,000 to wallet ending F9zL.
0751 (UK time) F9zL wallet sent 150,000 to tXVN wallet.
tXVN is the wallet that pays out the withdrawals:
usdtscan.com/wallet_info_trc20?id=THixt3o6xaPa8vPcMSakpaGm9g6PVdtXVN
You can see lots of people withdrawing and paying the 7% i.e. 930, 372, 3720, 744 etc
The remainder of the money from F9zl eventually ends up in SUxz, which has withdrawn 2.54 billion to “bitget” since the 8th November.
So money comes in, half goes to pay withdrawals and the rest is syphoned out to an exchange.
Obviously this a completely unsustainable ponzi scheme but let’s pretend it was legit and those level 3 people could get 3.3% per day.
Start with $5,000 and compound 3.3% per day and at the end of a year you would have $700,789,133.49.
Laughable.
This is the first time i’ve followed the collapse of a ponzi from start to finish. I’m just wondering what happens next?
I’ve saved some incriminating evidence myself from the main ring leaders. Where/how do we report it and get these people locked up.
UK authorities aren’t going to be able to do much against the Chinese scammers hiding in Asia/Dubai.
If they receive enough complaints they might go after local top recruiters.
This is true but I particularly want to see some justice served towards Mack, Billy, and Charlie. They have been the main mouth pieces of ITP, and are the biggest catalysts in getting this garbage so big.
Without them ITP would have had nowhere as big of an audience. Sure, they didn’t create the scam itself, but they’re responsible for spreading it and need to be punished for doing so.
Andrew Penman from The Mirror has covered some MLM Ponzi schemes promoted in the UK in the past. Might be worth contacting him.
Can Mack, Billy and Charlie claim they didn’t know it was a scam? Would that get them off the hook?
Ignorance of the law typically isn’t an actionable defense.
If as everyone suspects Mack will do a runner to Dubai, according to his wallet he’s withdrawn $1.3m from the scheme. That’s a lot of money, but its not enough to sustain a luxurious lifestyle out there for long.
I’ve been thinking, they probs would have a strong case to claim that they are also victims. I suppose if you look it at a certain angle, they were also convinced that it was a legit business.
A lack of intent (which is very debatable) and ignorance would probably be their argument. If there’s undeniable proof that they did indeed know the true nature of ITP then they’re screwed.
Good scam i lost half my saving its my fault though 🙁
Hahaha. Hacking, classic.
All the money withdrawn to shareholders? That’s pretty creative.
Where can we see this message? “The ITP is down”…
Cannot see on the app. The website is down. Can someone please confirm.
I didn’t spend much money in ITP, I did lent some money to my group leader. I am worried.
Lolll where did they put that up?
It’s a really weak [fake] explanation, maybe that’s deliberate to confuse ITP’s users as they debate the illogical contradictions, Oz you have experience with this, is it typical that the shutdown notices don’t make any sense?
People arguing in the comments on a certain person’s youtube videos.
I should have probably said – this was from a Youtube comment on Charlie’s latest video. Therefore I can’t 100% say if its legit.
They have a zoom meeting at 9:15PM UK time. I wonder what will be said
You have the meeting ID and pass for the zoom meet? I wanna hear what they got to say
Zoom is full, MACK HAS SAID THE leicestershire police are dialling in too.
So where can we access these website notices? Are all the sites down now?
Well at least they admit they’ve stolen the money. LOOOOOOL
Or 0.001%.
Mack right now is talking about how he’s receiving death threats about someone exposing ITP, that’s why police in the call.
People cannot get into the group. I have screenshots. If anyone needs.
Well I’m not in any of the cult whatsapp groups so it’s hard to get direct statements. Either way, cracks are beginning to show.
Mack is currently crying in call rn.
According to MACK, BehindMLM are being sent to court.
Riiight, because cops come to zoom calls.
Just gets better and better.
Please record/screencap the zoom!
So Mack is talking about everything except ITP collapsing..
Wait. Are the police ACTUALLY in the call?
I know Charlie Wildish, this is not his first time with Crypto, he was in the last bull run, he is an actor.
I lost a lot of money, I trusted him because he is a respected Karate instructor in Bristol, he has a Youtube channel Bunkai Jutsu.
His website: midsomernortonmartialarts.com
Please can someone post which police force to contact.
Mack subedar is claiming he is like other investors saying he is just a team leader and is in the dark like everyone else which is laughable.
his whole family such as amina subedar are probably involved as well
yes, but not for fraud reasons, they’re on call because he got doxxed and received death threats
Other updates:
Team leaders said avoid BEHINDMLM. Mack isn’t mentioning the rumors collpasing. Saying TRON has been hacked that’s why withdrawals aren’t happening.
They should investigate Mack and his partners Billy, Darren, Charlie, Andreas and azmina subedar all fraudsters.
Worst advice ever.
Well Mack has nothing to worry about because it’s a legit company so there’s nothing to “expose” right?
Lol, if tron could get hacked that would bring the whole crypto industry down as it’s basically a clone of ethereum. The whole value of ethereum depends on being unhackable.
Another name to add TJ your list is Jay Mistry. YouTube him.
Haha, they’re blaming this site for doxxing??!!! They’ve been putting themselves out there on social media for months.
they held a LIVE EVENT in Leicester with fire eaters and dancers on stage promoting a scam, and they’re blaming this site for revealing their identity. You can’t make this up, I’d watch the movie!
Imagine being so dumb that you invite the police to join a zoom call that you would use to promote and illegal Ponzi scheme.
This guy is the best and also stupidest scammer I think this country has ever seen!
.club is back up again. I managed to login using a false Tel number and password.
They’re still taking deposits.
Yeah deposits still flowing in quickly, a small trickly of withdrawals going out.
my guess is there’s a bunch of planted accounts in some of the big whatsapp groups who are screenshotting their withdrawals to encourage people it’s all legit. Just to eke out as many deposits as they can.
Withdrawals are slowly happening to make people think it’s still legit. The event is still not over yet so people are still depositing hefty amounts.
Next couple of days will be very interesting and they most definitely will make an excuse for their exit scam.
Yep. It’s because they’re always lies. We get some pretty funny “lost in translation” notices from time to time.
Just a note on ITP Corp’s collapse, I’m holding off till I can verify. A YouTube comment isn’t enough for me to go on when ITP Corp’s third website is still live.
Did a quick look into the transfers out of the “j4AQ” – the one which gets all of the deposits – here’s the amounts per day:
23/11/2023,3,400,000
22/11/2023,6,906,263.83
21/11/2023,15,950,000
20/11/2023,14,550,000
19/11/2023,1,775,000
18/11/2023,2,050,000
17/11/2023,2,248,000
16/11/2023,1,950,000
15/11/2023,2,180,000
14/11/2023,1,900,000
13/11/2023,2,000,000
12/11/2023,1,800,000
11/11/2023,1,600,000
10/11/2023,1,450,000
09/11/2023,1,570,000
08/11/2023,1,670,000
07/11/2023,1,330,000
06/11/2023,1,450,000
05/11/2023,1,350,000
04/11/2023,1,100,000
03/11/2023,1,560,000
02/11/2023,925,000
01/11/2023,1,480,000
No need to get a calculator out, it comes to a total of 72,194,263.83.
72 million in 23 days.
They just posted another “double deposit” and “inviter bonus” message on Telegram. No mention at all about withdrawals or any delays, just ignored.
Matt Feast is promoting this, and even with all the issues he is still posting and telling people its a real company. He knows there is issues
Theses ponzi pimps are ruthless for money. They then block them and get new followers, and repeat again.
The withdrawal wallet THixt3o6xaPa8vPcMSakpaGm9g6PVdtXVN has now been completely drained of USDT, down to $0.01.
Not entirely sure what it means, but unless they top it up again they won’t be sending any withdrawals out from there.
Was going to comment this, it’s not looking good at all. They’ve just completely emptied the wallet.
Now deposits have stopped flowing into TXWtw3tprZmgjReL9TbZJbp5qFtwShj4AQ. This is bigger news!
I can still see deposits going into the j4AQ wallet but the withdrawals wallet has been emptied into this new wallet:
TNgouK4riiGVVZx1WnEBJYPecX1WXwvp3B
Charlie is back to replying to the youtube comments. Backing the idea that the ‘ITP Network’ has been hacked and people should be patient. He’s also deleting comments. This guy has no shame.
Yeah it paused for an hour or two, people still throwing money down the drain, the stupidity is baffling!
One of the commenters on Charlie Wildish’s YouTube testimonial sums up what is probably the biggest issue with ITP:
No-one, even dipsh1ts like Mr Mack and Charlie Wildish, knows who is really behind this Ponzi. If you can’t get hold of someone when it is all allegedly “fine” then how would you expect to get hold of anything when the cracks start to appear?
The withdrawal wallet has been emptied. I would say they will keep accepting payments until even the most die-hard believer gives up. After all, no one knows who it behind ITP so who are you going to chase to get your money back?
Well Mack was Representing himself as the face of ITP this whole time and suddenly as soon as it goes down he wants to represent himself as an investor whilst crying on a zoom call so I think Mack should be the one accountable for all this . Like a puppet on strings
Charlie has now switched comments off on his latest video. Coward.
I’ve noticed he’s turned off comments, I’ve spammed his second video comment section!!
I have all the team leaders testimonials saved, I’m not stopping until each and everyone of them muppets end up in a jail cell.
Here is last nights call. Really horrible to watch to be honest.
youtu.be/Fi74NEVUCcI?si=kxIjfTu1LkI2aTJJ
There’s a new clone of ITP that has been made, exact same name and features, just a purple tint to the website. They never stop.
There’s over a hundred ITP Corp clones reviewed on BehindMLM. Every “click a button” Ponzi app is the same scam, run by the same Chinese scammers.
They find a new region to scam and this happens.
Thanks George, some familiar faces there. Skip to 1:29:43 and someone called Andy Higgins starts bringing up the startling similarities between ITP and Ammdefi, and he was quickly shut down. Appalling behaviour, they all deserve to go to jail!
This is GOLD. 32:55:
youtu.be/Fi74NEVUCcI?t=1975
Here Mack tries to frame people who put money back in for the double bonus as “brainless”, and is asking “am I the only one with the brain here?”, and gets interrupted by I think “Billy” who says that he just put 30K back into ITP because he has “full trust in ITP, so there you go”. Hahahah, It’s hilarious.
And all those people on this call, damn… Very sad. you could write a PhD thesis on the lengths people will go to justify obvious scams to themselves because can’t allow themselves to realise that they are the baddies, they are the ones who peddled scam.
It’s like their brains are trying to invent all those excuses and scenarios in which they are the good ones. They will not learn.
Mack is prepping for his exit, his narrative now changed to “you have no brains for putting more money in” and “blame yourself” and “you should have only invested what you can lose” but still saying “everything is fine, ITP is great”. Scum.
COSCOIN, likely owner of ITP, have released this excuse:
24 hours ago it was because they were hacked. It’s all bullshit:
https://behindmlm.com/companies/vccp-click-a-button-ponzi-collapses-pulls-taxes-exit-scam/
That Subedar video, I only watched 3 minutes but I can confidently say Subedar’s toilet paper selling skills are being put to use.
He’s a useful idiot. Subedar will be getting off the books payments to lie to his fellow countrymen.
Old mate Darren is also full of shit. Literally talking out of his ass to hold the pitchforks at bay.
This wallet:
TLkfWgtnDou3YD5ZZtwmKHHv62RPdthHsW
Appears to be owned by Geoff Holloway who is seen on the Youtube video of the Zoom call from last night starting at around 1 hour 45 minutes.
Geoff claimed to have withdrawn 50k to that wallet on 20th November 2023 but if you look at that wallet there is no 47,000 credit (6% fee) – the money never got there.
The video of the withdrawal is shown on Facebook by someone called Billy Horncastle (this is where the wallet address came from) and shows some $4700 withdrawals which you can see did actually arrive.
But the big one, the 50k, never got there.
And now the withdrawal wallet is empty.
Billy’s FB: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093585935670
Yeah all the big players like Mack are trynna shift the blame but the main culprits and thieves are Billy , Charlie wildish , Darren and Mack and also Azmina subeder
If you watch the meeting from last night, Mack has already been getting some pretty intense threats. This could all turn very ugly once this collapses.
Hahah they are blaming it on the tron blockchain. Do they know how big tron is?. But ITP are the only ones affected. Fools.
Yes, now MACK is distancing himself from I know whats going on everywhere to I am just a member. He will use this if he is prosecuted.
All the people on the call are his sheep, they are still sucking up because they still want their money.
There was no police on the call. He is wanting people to feel sorry for him, its the guilt talking.
He deserves what he gets.
I will be tweeting this you tube and adding it onto my action fraud report.
If anyone wants to report Mack and the rest of the scammers, here is my case number NFRC231006252171 for action fraud.
If he does leave the country, he will blame it on the gangsters that he stole from.
How can I report my team head. I met Mack few days back. My team head borrowed some money from me and not returning it now, whereas, my ITP money has not reached my wallet yet..it’s been more than 3 days. How can i get in touch with you ! And give you the information I have
@martin
Sorry to hear this. It’s unlikely you will see any of your money now. It’s all probably off shore somewhere now. Lots of incriminating evidence against the ring leader Mack.
I suggest you contact action fraud if you are in the UK, contact local police and local authorities and all the information you need names etc are all in the comments above.
Mack needs to be reported together with Darren, Billy, Charlie . They are all in this together.
At least you can get that money back via small claims court. How many people did you recruit though?
There has still been $1.2 million deposited today, it is astonishing that there are so many naive people still willing to give their money away. Surely they’ll keep the web app running while people are still depositing? How long will it take to sink in for these fools?
There’s also a slight chance you can get your money back from your bank. Your bank will most likely have 24/7 fraud hotiline. Explain to them that you have been scammed, and give them all the details you can. This will hopefully help get ITP on the banks radar.
Money can’t buy intelligence. False hope only gets you far.
OMG what have a just watched? One minute Mack is the head of ITP UK, now he is teeing himself up a victim too, he is now just one of them…
I was offered this ‘opportunity’ by many, tried to warn them all but fell on deaf ears, even yesterday still telling me how much they have made with the ‘clicks’
Listening to all Mack’s little arse ticklers on that YouTube video is actually quite sad, I genuinely think they believe in this thing so much and they haven’t even considered for a moment they have been scammed and have gone on to scam family and friends.
The woman on the call calling for everyone to give a hand to Mack is just a complete clown. Billy, where do I start? I wouldn’t trust the bloke to put my bins out or walk the dog. The guy is as thick as he sounds and will be back delivering fast food within a few months!
I can’t believe the woman who said her daughter has put her uni money into this thing. Maybe a course in the collage of common sense would be more suitable because her uni fees have just been set on fire. A fraud in itself.
The poor guy planning to retire in March on all his new found wealth will probably end up working part time on a check out a Tesco.
I do feel sorry for some, but these have created a cult like beast and they are all just lapping it up, they are all part of the problem.
These lot will probably get scammed again trying to recoup the losses and the ones who have made the money will give it back through greed!
Happy we are at the end of Mack’s shitshow!
Welp my withdrawal is now at 48 hours, should I just cancel it at this point and retry since I know withdrawals were trickling in slowly.
I made a huge mistake and invested money I was not willing to lose so now I’m sitting here without $5000 and no way to get it back it seems like, wish I knew about mlm earlier.
This was the bit I couldn’t believe, absolutely awful parenting. Those student loans are for rent/food (obviously partying too lol) and she is going to really struggle to get through the academic year.
Also there’s no chance Student Finance are going to hear her out and give her some more money – “What? So you put all your loan into a crypto ponzi?… There’s nothing we can do as this wasn’t how those funds should be used.”
The chinese have stolen your funds. They’re laughing behind their screens. Sorry for your loss.
I know right, imagine how that conversation went? I’m thinking about putting the Uni loan on there…
I mean even if you really believed in something that much, you’d be telling your child to not be so stupid. Education first.
Mum probably told her not to worry about education, won’t need one now we’ve found ITP.
How did no one question why ITP had zero issues processing the deposits on ‘Thanksgiving’ and ‘the big hack’… Only had issues with taking money off the platform, strange no?
Honestly the level of stupidity of these people lapping it all up.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in a few households over the next few days when they realise Santa won’t be paying them a visit this year.
Stupid is as stupid does!
Santa most definitely wont be paying them back that’s for sure. Merry f*cking walrus everyone.
I started watching this for entertainment but after the Q&A started while I continued to watch, the entertainment stopped.
But all these people talking about manners, whilest recruiting people into ponzi schemes! What could be worse manners.
The guy who was on benefits and has now spent the 50k he’s tried to withdraw… do we think he’s made those purchases on credit and is about to have a very un-merry Christmas?
Was just in the pub and overheard a gang of unsavoury looking characters talking about how they’ve lost thousands in ITP, and mentioned Billy by name as the one that got them and their friends into it.
Needless to say he’s not their favourite person, he’ll be looking over his shoulder for a long time.
I think he was the lead guy in Liverpool. With the reputation that city has, i’d very worried that i’ve scammed some people who will be looking to take revenge – an extremely no nonsense city.
I doubt he has already spent the money as it would be unlikely he could get 50k worth of credit.
However, I imagine he is sat at home at the moment under some extreme stress contemplating the scenario where the $47,000 doesn’t turn up.
Imagine the warm fuzzy feeling you get from the thought of that much money hitting your bank account, only for it to turn into the stone cold realisation that it is never, ever coming.
The withdrawal wallet is still completely empty but people are still throwing money at ITP.
He’s bragged so hard about how much he’s made from ITP, they’ll no doubt see that as him stealing directly from them.
My team leader said he needed it for some work and I have him cash money. No proof whatsoever. How can I take him to court for something I have no proof of.
I recruited only 2.
I gave him cash. No proof as I always have some cash available at home. I don’t think the bank will be able to help me in this matter.
Why the hell would you give money to some random people you meet? But on the other hand – you fell for an obvious Ponzi scheme while everyone was trying to tell you it’s a Ponzi and not to do it, so…
@Martin
How much money did you give him? No point of going to court for the money, get the money through other ways.
Its the first time ever I have heard the word ponzi in my life. I am 50 and never ever have invested in such schemes.
I invested very less money in ITP. But I started getting red flags the day this thanksgiving offer came and i was like how can any company make your money double.
Searched for ITP online and came across this forum, eventually, reading the words ponzi for the first time ever.
The team leader had been nice to me. Taking me with him everywhere he was going. I am in touch with him but as he promised, he is not giving me my money now.
It’s so heartwrenching when people scam less-educated – especially the elderly.
It’s been what, five days of stalled withdrawals? I’ll be calling ITP Corp’s collapse later today.
Yeah they’re circling the drain hard
I won’t say I am less educated, yes, less aware maybe!
And I don’t consider myself as an “elderly”.
The same fools who were slandering BehindMLM on the whatsapp chats over the past few months have now gone silent. Such is life.
Yes, but you have to be really, really naïve and/or uninformed about A LOT of things and still be WILLING to send money somewhere, to someone you have not ever seen, met or verified.
For example:
1. You have obviously zero knowledge about investing, otherwise you would know that 2.5% per day is realistically impossible and you would know it’s a scam.
2. You have obviously zero knowledge about Crypto markets, as if you did, you would know that “arbitrage trading” like this, in any random time of a day is impossible, you would know it’s a scam.
3. You have obviously zero knowledge about how web/mobile apps work, as if you did, you would know that nobody takes apps offline completely for updates, those happen seamlessly, and you would also know how to find evidence of nothing happening behind the scenes when you click your BUTTON 5 times, apart from number on the screen increasing.
You would know that if someone built AI to do trading like this that has 100% success rate, they wouldn’t have a shady website and would be in all news all over the world because it would collapse stock markets. You would know it’s a scam.
4. You have to have zero knowledge about social engineering, manipulation and completely lack common sense as you were clearly easily convinced to part with your own money based on some matey showing you a mobile app which “gives you money when you click a button” and you didn’t think “this is fucking stupid, it can’t possibly be a real investing”, and you got scammed.
I can’t make myself feel bad for you, you had it coming. All the things I listed can be changed if you spend literally one day reading up on those topics, but you never did.
You don’t understand anything behind ITP, you don’t know anything about AI, crypto, about people running it, yet you gave them money AND went on recruiting more people into something you don’t understand? You are 50 years old and you seen ZERO red flags until now? How did you survive that long mate?
Just try to make it up to the people you lured into it as you owe them.
Leicester guy.. had lots of messages from people asking if I know who Mack his – where he lives etc l don’t actually know Mack personally but know who he is..
part me was like it’s your own fault lads whats the point of trying to bounce him around for money.. if he’s got any money it’s long gone or he hasn’t got any money as he’s a gonna be done over as well and made the fall guy by the scammers.
But then again Mack deserves a kicking/prosecution for his role.. discuss.
@Mo always the case.
I hope they start seeing the light. Mack is still feeding them so much crap . The zoom was really funny but scary seeing all those people thinking he is god. But he is pulling the wool over their eyes. He is an expert in manipulating. Proper criminal.
I do hope some of those people start reporting him and the rest before its too late. They are stupid to think its going to come back.
I put $250 into it and took it out what I put in once I doubled so happy I did last month when I come across you guys.
How do I report him and what police doing about him.
Prosecution yes, can’t condone violence. What was clear during the last zoom call was that Mack himself realised that the double money bonus was nonsense and wasn’t stupid enough to fall for it.
But did he say that to anyone before it all went tits up, no. For this he deserves the steepest of sentences. Jail might be the safest place for him.
I’m surprised to find it’s going down exactly as I expected. It’s my first time watching a ponzi collapse and I won’t quote people specifically as I don’t wish to mock, but all the “have faith”, “be positive”, “be polite”, “leave if you’re going to be negative”, sentiments with continued recruitment; Are exactly what I expected, that it could be a week or more before they get it that it’s not doing withdrawals.
But I guess it could be even longer before they understand that the “balances” were never real and that their ‘entitlement to withdraw’ was a sham.
What I’m still not seeing is the realisation that it’s not a Seattle company which has been running for longer than 13 months.
As above, you say Mack might have just realised “double money was nonesense” but he’s definitely been communicating with someone from ITP.
He seemed confident that they were a US company even though he clear knows what’s what and is just doing damage control to protect himself through plausible deniability.
EG “why would I have behaved like I have from 21st nov onwards if I was “in on it”. Honestly I think running would have been smarter.
I see Billy has taken himself off Facebook. The penny must have finally dropped.
I’d imagine he is receiving some very serious threats at this point knowing the people he was targeting!
They’re all going to be absolutely sh1tt1ng themselves. They’ve all openly showed their face, full names, and locations constantly when to providing content for ITP.
I do not condone violence but they have made their beds. For example, Charlie has stated on his testimony that he has recruited SIX HUNDRED people.
Are all 600 of them going to be civilised forgivable people? I’m not so sure…I wouldn’t even know what to do if I was them, an apology isn’t going to cut it.
You reap what you sow at the end of the day and the chickens are going to come home to roost for these lot.
Billy and Matt are both as thick as pig sh1t, both likely believed this was a real thing, but they profited off their own friends and family so both scum that deserve what they get.
Trace and Mandy both played God and made themselves out to be some sort of Wealth Management experts who were that deep in and likely have lost a fortune themselves. Well if karma is a thing they will have.
Charlie – Made a fortune also and no way he didn’t realise this was a pure scam that he was in at the right time.
Mack – played a blinder to the end… I’d pay to see another zoom call from him and the rest of them in a few days!
Feel for the people who have lost so much money to these scums, but they wouldn’t listen!
Yeah from what I can gather his circle are mainly steroid fuelled thugs, not the sort of people you want to steal from.
Mack on his group chat, absolute state of this clown:
Has everyone forgot that they’re entitled to $100,000? That seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
Hahahahahaha that’s hilarious, he’s just making shit up now. I just hope enough people have plucked up the courage to look at this page, after being told for months not to by their scam leader.
It won’t be pleasant reading for them but it will at least give them some closure. Mack is just prolonging their agony by giving them hope.
I hope the ITP team are enjoying their thanksgiving dinners in Chongqing!
Charlie has deleted his testimonial. Looks like panic has set in. Pretty sure someone here has downloaded the testimonials, so no bother.
They mentioned this in the YouTube video, since the transaction is ‘completed’ on their end, it’s not their fault lol.
Now the groups are in lockdown and admins forwarding news about Tether freezing USDT etc and HTX restoring services in 24 hours.
I’m not sure if the admins are also as deluded as the sheep that follow.
Meanwhile, the cult is still praising the forwards with thumbs-ups and praising emojis.
It’s crazy how some people are just not willing to accept that their money is gone and that the ‘proofs’ of withdrawals landing in wallets is all set up.
Just came across this on TikTok:
tiktok.com/@itp.user/video/7305096071913442593
It says Mr Billy, but it’s actually Matt Tomlinson, another one of the head scammers on Merseyside. Telling people not to panic, because the panic withdrawals is what’s gonna make the whole thing crash!
These guys are so far gone, when reality hits, it’s gonna hit hard.
I’ve uploaded it here: youtu.be/BG01_ddruGY
Will start uploading all of the Telegram stuff I downloaded, it’s 4gb of videos and photos.
Keep downloading stuff you see online, youtube, ticktock, for evidence. Also take screenshots of Charlies comments where he tells people that it’s going to be going for years etc – it will all eventually help a lot when court cases start popping up.
“Let technology shine the light of life.”
Joined a backup ITP Europe group that someone started when it was clear something was going wrong.
Every person in the backup group is deluded, banning and removing people for daring to say that there is a problem.
Joe is the admin, power crazy. “Positive Vibes Only” is their motto. Say it’s gone, banned. Say Mack is gonna be in trouble, banned. Say you’re worried that you may have lost your money, banned. So bad it’s laughable.
For reference I stuck £1700 in, not too arsed as it’s pocket change really but there’s a lot of people who are in deep financial trouble because of this.
Let Chinese technology scam the life out of shite!
Announcement via ITP admin:
The interesting thing is that in the WhatsApp groups they are asking people not to withdraw money. Whereas, at the same time encouraging people to take advantage of the Thanksgiving offer.
Encouraging people to make new members. So Tron cannot give money but Tron can take in any money!
Geoff Holloway, another idiot recruiter! Think the guy that Billy is under is claiming he has been paid out $47k from his withdrawal the other day on his Facebook group page to try and con more people into signing up!
Shared a photo showing it as complete on ITP side.
He withdrew to this wallet – tronscan.org/#/address/TLkfWgtnDou3YD5ZZtwmKHHv62RPdthHsW/transfers
Nothing in there obviously! The guy is claiming benefits and has withdrawn north of $40k out of there within the last 4 months!
Another one of his way to jail for benefit fraud and tax evasion!
These guys are still pushing to recruit despite clear collapse!
Still people have deposited $830k today, this is solely the responsibility of the leaders poor advice to people.
They could easily have saved these people from potential financial ruin by taking their heads out of the sand and advising people to steer clear.
This guy is definitely one of the stupidest of all. He’s desperately trying to link any “crypto hack” story to ITP.
You could tell him that the FTX collapse earlier this year is the cause of ITP issues and he’d buy it and sell it on to his followers.
He was also representing himself as an important cog in the ITP machine, until it all went tits up, and then he was just a “user like everyone else”. Mack was the same, now he’s just a victim.
It’s almost therapeutic looking back at all the smug “look how much money I’ve made” posts these guys put out recently, and think about how they’ll never enjoy it while they’re behind bars or hiding from thugs they’ve ripped off.
One word: DENIAL! Social Media are still full of people left in the dark “hoping” for a positive outcome. It hurts to watch.
Plausible deniability? Mac is wilfully ignorant and the STILL ongoing recruitment is blatant at this point.
Is there a police ref number to file additional complaints? Let me know please.
So sorry for many of those who have been conned and scammed but also so pleased to hear this has collapsed.
I’ve witnessed a number of colleagues/friends be taken in, sold to them by their own family member and it’s been awful to be the sole voice of reason trying to convince them of the nature of the scam.
I want to lodge formal complaints but the company I work for is so intertwined with family in senior positions I think it’d end my career
Just discovered Matt Tomlinson has published a book on Amazon called ‘Business Book for 10 Year Olds: Earn, save and invest – the simple way’.
And he believes in magic money apps!
Don’t think I’ll buy that for the kids this Christmas!
I threw a bit of USDT into ITP and Cosetek bc I was flush with stablecoins at the time and thought it might be a DeFi thing.
After clicking the buttons and seeing 2.5% in a day (thought it must be per month at first glance) I started laughing out loud and realized it was a pure ponzi as opposed to some DeFi project which has inflationary coins with little to no utility (usually promised utility which never materializes) to sustain payouts.
I’ve been berated in most telegram/WhatsApp group chats I’m in for calling it like it is with these.
Crypto-native people can easily tell it’s a pure ponzi with 0 revenue streams other than new money. It was my first time entering groups on telegram where the majority were not familiar with using or understanding any blockchain.
Even though I took so much sh** from people in these groups and was banned from some, I tried my best to be diplomatic to reach as many as possible.
I’ve literally had dozens of chats with people in DM’s and it didn’t take long to convince them it was 100% a ponzi. Many took that realization for the best, some didn’t. I was absolutely shocked how many people believed it was legit.
The things that piss me off the most about this:
(Ozedit: derails removed)
2. People promoting these as legit when they know full well it’s a ponzi scheme. I don’t think I really even need to go into why this pisses me off so much.
All this to say, I am grateful I’ve been able to chat with a lot of people so they avoided serious losses. Sometime’s it’s easy to adopt the mindset of “if people are stupid enough to believe it, they deserve to lose it”.
While that may be true in a sense, I do generally have compassion for people who misplace their trust and likely have a lower IQ or EQ and lose big time on these. Of course sometimes the best way to learn is losing a lot of money. I learn extremely fast when I lose money.
I’ve also made some cool online connections through all of this.
BehindMLM has been the rare add to my collection of tabs I keep open at all times in my browser for daily reading.
I don’t wanna spam the comments too much, but was my comment about a digital asset and/or naming an exchange an issue with your policy?
I was trying to compare owning a digital asset through a regulated company (legal) vs giving money to Chinese scammers. Appreciate your hard work! stay safe <3
Came across as sly bitcoin/exchange shilling.
Ok no problem. Not a fan of exchanges at all but yea I am biased on btc and btc education. Just want to get a feel for where you stand for future comments 😀
Is this guy for real?
1. I didn’t have to help you get signed up? How do you think you’ve made $40k mate – What you did it take their money out of their account and put it into yours and the Chinese.
2. The negativity is getting too much? – You expect people to be happy that you and your idiot mates have profited greatly from their losses.
3. You are no longer answering questions? Yet still pushing for folks to deposit their money down the drain by implying your $47k was cleared which we all know it isn’t and won’t!
4. You’ve gone from being an important man in ITP UK to ‘just and ITP user’
You’re one of the people that should see the inside of a jail cell for a very long time for what you’ve done!
Where was this posted?
@Chobson
Look at this post on Facebook: facebook.com/share/MJwVxCj2KWaXyRxr/?mibextid=K35XfP
This is his group from what I have found.
Billy is back with this statement –
Just another ITP User now, not the super recruiter that has made thousands off this scam from all these people underneath him!
The main man in Liverpool as he has been referring to himself (now just like the rest of them and ITP user).
The guy that is that thick, reinvested $30k into the scheme because he got too greedy and couldn’t see the wood for the trees so some justice at least!
The guy really deserves everything he gets!
Just to confirm, Norm (above) is talking about Geoff Holloway not Galloway. It’s very important to be accurate when reporting on ITP. The people who have been duped are being told all sorts of nonsense on the various Facebook groups and WhatsApp/Telegram chats.
Those social media posts can disappear at any time but this site will provide a detailed timeline of the whole sorry farce that was ITP.
So please make sure to take screenshots and download videos when these ITP “managers” and cheerleaders post of the various social media channels. And please make doubly sure to get their names right.
Charlie has disabled comments on ALL his video’s now. Really seems like panic is setting in and an angry mob is forming. With Billy’s statement also coming out, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re all massively regretting pasting their faces everywhere supporting ITP.
Also, less of this ‘im just another ITP user’…that is not going to wash with anyone – there is tonnes of evidence (all downloaded too btw) of these leaders actively pushing people to put money into ITP.
I just hope none of the victims believe this excuse of ‘im one of you’, i’m not in any of the whatsapp groups so maybe someone can enlighten me/us on how this excuse is going down?
They seem Matt Tomlinson and Billy Hardcastle seem to be promoting Cos/Coscoins and Fluxons now! They both seem to be linked with a social club called Rek 41 in Birkenhead.
Yes apologies . For clarity the name is Geoff Holloway as pointed out above.
Mandy – refers to Mandy Hill who specifically targeted her own friends who and I quote, directly from Mandy Hill herself ‘have absolute genuine financial need’.
Hopefully the South Coast East Ambulance Service boot her out for targeting the vulnerable. I mean she literally flaunts all these trips away she has booked, European Christmas Markets and confirms it’s all been paid for by what she has been doing!
Taking money out of your pocket and putting it into her own! What a treat of a lady – Video are on her Facebook profile page – (recordings taken and logged) –
facebook.com/Mandy.Hill01
Billy – Refers to Billy Horncastle who needs no introduction on this page. His Facebook profile is further up in posts.
Billy self proclaimed King of The North! Now nearly just an ITP user like every one else. Now playing the victim card himself, made thousands off taking his friends and families money, now worried about the threats he is receiving and doesn’t understand why he is getting them.
Even has a woman on his last post stand up for him whilst claiming her kids are going to have to go without a family holiday next year now because she put the money into ITP.
Billy actually thanks her for her kind words! Should be thanking her for putting the money in so he could take the level of money he has been withdrawing!
Charlie – refers to Charlie Wildish – again everyone on here knows enough about Charlie so won’t bore you with it!
Thanks Norm, he has now blocked the comments on that post, this exchange is worth noting, and his response to this:
So basically now it’s just gambling and everyone knew what it is. Fuck me, the audacity.
Ponzi schemes aren’t gambling. The admin(s) and early investors steal from their victims.
He’s finally admitted what it is. When in fact he has been selling it to his victims as an 100% accurate AI powered crypto trading app.
I think there is another zoom meeting they’re having at 7pm UK time (in 15 min).
Although I feel genuinely sorry for the victims, I have throughly enjoyed watching this ponzi scheme collapse.
I never put a penny into ITP I am just an interested observer and would like to see these people prosecuted and justice served.
i have some screenshots from people on Facebook promoting itp if anyone’s wants what I have let me know.
Great work to everyone who has been working against this.
Charlie has deleted all his videos.
I’m in a ws group with mates who have all been involved at G1/2/3 levels. When they asked me to invest I did my research came across Behind MLM and decided against being involved.
Funny thing is they all knew it was likely a scam but still invested hoping for a grab and run opportunity.
I wonder why…
If someone has downloaded his videos (apart from his testimony as I have this one) can you please get in touch? The contact details are in the description of this video:
youtube.com/watch?v=BG01_ddruGY
(or if OZ will let me post email: (removed))
I want to have those videos to be able to use as evidence / reupload if needed for posterity.
Same regarding other materials, screenshots from facebook/whatsapp group. Thanks.
Is the Zoom meeting happening now? My money is on another Oscar worthy performance by Mack! Tears the lot again!
And everyone on the call will still be thanking him for stealing their money with his little cheerleaders – Billy, Darren, Darryl and Mandy pushing the ‘Good Vibes Only’ theme!
Even Charlie has ran for the hills now the penny has dropped! But these 4 will still be hanging onto Mack’s coattails!!
His facebook page is gone too.
I’m new on here and have been reading all these comments over the last few days watching things unfold.
I consider myself savvy with all this stuff and have been into crypto for a long time and still never forgiven myself for selling all my mined Eth for 50$, and yes I had a lot if them.
Anyway, a few of my friends have been in ITP, some for a while and some not so. Some have made around 1-2k and from what I have told and others are probably still all in for around about 1k or so.
One of them was trying to get me on it and straight away I was like this is a straight up scam lol.
I even showed them this page and they were still in denial and happy to just leave what they have in for some reason!?
When something gets this big (and initially reputable?) it plays on people’s emotion that it’s got to be legit if everyone is on it right? Especially when people were successful in withdrawals at some stage.
I just feel sorry for all the people who were duped into this and hope that the crooks behind it get dealt some kind of justice.
I watched the zoom meeting the other day and thought to myself WTF? Who’s this lazy looking brain dead loser who can’t even be bothered to sit up or even look professional in any way?
I guess it’s one of the cronies, at least that Mack guy was sort of trying to make an effort lol.
Can anyone confirm that this has collapsed yet?
I don’t want to brag to my mates if it has as I kind of think they know deep down it will so really more interested just to know than anything else.
Maybe I will hear some other background chat in the pub then instead of all this ITP nonsense.
@Matt
ITP Corp stopped paying out a week ago. No withdrawals = Ponzi collapsed.
Your friends should be able to confirm. Watch out for nonsense about blockchain delays though.
@Oz
I get all that but do you just think they will leave people hanging on in limbo or will there be some kind of formal confirmation from somewhere?
Yes.
They will either leave people hanging or confirm it, or not.
@Matt
Click a button Ponzi schemes come and go by the dozen. ITP Corp is no different.
I’m not wasting braincells on what the scammers will do, any more so than I did trying to predict a collapse.
ITP Corp investors aren’t getting paid. That is the collapse.
Charlie can’t run for the hills as he’ll miss his Karate classes in Bristol.
Money is STILL being deposited into the ITP wallet:
TXWtw3tprZmgjReL9TbZJbp5qFtwShj4AQ
ITP will continue as long as people are continuing to “invest” into it. The scammers behind it aren’t stupid, they know they may as well leave it up as long as the marks are throwing money at them.
But, as Oz states, with no withdrawals it has already collapsed.
HTC Twitter post
You need to understand – it’s not a “company” with offices. It’s just a few Chinese scammers behind the screens, potentially in their bedrooms, running this.
They have a white-label app that they can rebrand and clone infinite amount of times, and they just pop new ponzi schemes over and over.
They get people to promote for them for free, like Charlie Wildish and Mack, because those guys are greedy and they’re getting paid effectively a comission for luring people into the scheme and depositing more money.
There isn’t any AI trading going on, it’s just a database with a few columns for each user: TotalMoneyDeposited, FakeMoneyShown, TotalWithdrawals, etc. Once the Ponzi matures and they get the right indicators, they pull some crazy promo and pull the plug.
Why would you expect some official statement? Anything that they said ever was just some chatGPT crap that is barely intelligible.
None of this was ever real, but for some people penny still didn’t drop, they’re still depositing.
Spot on, Chobson, your post sums up ITP very eloquently.
It was always comical to watch a dipsh1t like “Mr Mack” babble on to his fans on Zoom about “Seattle”, “since 2013” and the other unverifiable claims.
The more he said it, the more people believed it. And they went and repeated it, and more people believed it. And they went and repeated it, and so on.
At this point “Mr Mack” is either complicit – helping the scammers to gain more money for an agreed cut – or astonishingly stupid.
My guess is the latter. I think he was so desperate to be hailed as some kind of business genius that he swallowed all the nonsense hook, line and sinker. That’s why he put his face out there and let everyone know exactly who he was.
Not once did he stop and think “hmmm, why have I never spoken to anyone from the Seattle office?” or “it’s strange I don’t have a contact name and number for the CEO over there in the US“.
He just kept on forwarding the badly-written gibberish to all his followers without question.
MarkOnCrypto has release a public and formal apology, stating he had made 0 money from ITP. There’s no doubt he influenced a lot of people to put money into ITP, and was/is extremely dumb for believing it in the first place. However, atleast he has actually came out and apologised. The first and so far only one to do so, unlike many others who have simply ran away. Am I being too forgiving?
He really should change his username, as he clearly knows nothing about crypto!
Many people have been scammed by this ponzi. After a quick google search they may end up here. And thanks to the work of Oz, Darren, buldaq, mammal, chobson and many more, the explanation as to what happened is laid out here for all to see.
They will know who is to blame for their loss and hopefully they will avoid the same mistakes again.
However, the two main culprits at my work are still expecting to be paid today and are telling everyone else the same. Unfortunately some people are too thick to get it.
When they finally realise what has happened, I’m pretty sure they’ll be looking for the next one. Everyone loves free money!
I went to the Leicester conference with my brother and he borrowed £1000 of a credit card to put in it after already putting £500 in and buying two tickets to watch Mr Mack withdrew 50000 to get hope up.
He is a scammer we are good people from Leicester who fell for his scam . He should not get away with it I know we were to trusting. What can I do please who do I report it to?
There is something that I still cant understand, Mack and the rest of the band, they were aware of it so just acting or they really thought it was all true?
in the first case when the “thanksgiving bonus” was released they were all supposed to be already on a private jet flying further then possible with a bag full of money.
In the second case they just should be too stupid to be true.
So what I think is that they’ve been fç°k too by the chinese scammer and let here as a punchball, so people will be all against them and will forget who is behind all of this.
Do you think this could have sense?
I think they were just blinded by greed. They are all deeply flawed individuals, weak-willed, naive, low IQ, but most of all, greedy and selfish.
I think deep down they knew something was wrong, but as long as they silenced dissenting voices, and kept recruiting aggressively, they thought it would at least keep going longer than it did.
Most of them now are left in a situation where they’ve made significant money, but not sail-off-into-the-sunset money. They’re still forced to deal with the aftermath.
Police don’t seem to be interested, so people will likely seek justice in other forms.
@Marco They must’ve known. Any time on the Zoom calls when any comparison was made to previous Ponzi’s which went though an almost identical lifecycle, those questions were quickly shot down and dismissed.
Same goes for any questions about the daily trades and Transaction ID’s. Totally dismissed, and advised that the ‘information is out there if you look in the right places’.
They intentionally kept things vague and they were incredibly misleading about the operation when everything was all going in their favour and once it stopped paying, suddenly they claim they never had any association with ITP. I feel they are at least partly responsible.
@Marco – No. There is absolutely zero chance that the scumbags Mack and crew did not know this was a Ponzi, they were all complicit in it from the very beginning.
They are now just going to play the victim card, after having made $’000s from luring gullible people into it. Mind you, some of the recruited people may have been gullible initially, but then developed a crooked mindset and carried on recruiting and participating even after they realised what this was.
@Yazzz – Sorry for your loss. Not a lot of chance you will recover your money, as explained by other users above, but please do file a report with the Leicester police, and encourage other victims to come forward so that the scale of this is revealed and the culprits brought to justice before they all flee.
Please report Mack. Also, can go through Action Fraud, call them an make a report. And then share your case number here so others visiting this website can join in.
Mack called people braindead on the call for going for that double bonus – so obviously he is in on it. Why would he organise 700 people conference with exotic dancers if he wasnt?
People were telling them over and over, that this is a scam, and what did they do? They would block you and ask ITP admins to block your account with all the money in it.
Charlie Wildish made multiple videos about “how it’s not a ponzi or pyramid scheme”. They knew.
I don’t think neither of them made that much. Mack maybe 500K to a milion, rest, maybe 50-100K? That’s not enough to pack bag and fuck off to another country really.
They have been paid well by chinese scammers, they withdrew hundreds of thousands. If they were victims – they would just give it back to all the people that have lost money because of them.
None of them has done so, and Charlie Wildish is busy covering his tracks, deleted all his videos from his channel, deleted his facebook, put his karate business site offline.
Despicable, disguisting human beings .
The only good thing to come out of all of this is that Mack and everyone else is reading this.
It’s horrible that Mack take thousands of pounds telling us all at the party he is head of ITP UK and call us greedy on a zoom thing now sayin is just investor like us?
My husband family no him from Leicester and he also works for British Gas selling electricity at Leicester so he still has 2 job earning lots of money and taking of lower people.
It’s really bad and upsetting he works today as we suffer.
Honestly if people collectively collaborated together to get these ponzis down and raise awareness, then such ponzis would not exist.
Look how much BehindMLM influenced ITP, the way we got the app down not once, not twice but multiple times.
Having said that, appreciate the work you guys have been putting in to try and get rid of this ponzi. You’ve saved a lot of people from joining. Kuddos to you all.
I will certainly be reading other articles on this website in the future.
LOL! ITP HAVE MADE A NEW CLONE:
WEBSITE: (Ozedit: link removed)
Don’t think it’s the same people, more likely just a hashed up phishing site to take advantage of the idiots who want to get scammed again.
Cue the recovery scammers. ITP Corp has collapsed. Do not post recovery scam links here.
The scammers still need to cash out I guess. Maybe someone with good blockchain analysis skills could trace their transfers and contact the centralized exchange they end up attempting to cash out with.
Hopefully the authorities may be able to do this and seize the stolen funds (if they do deposit to a centralized exchange), or blacklist their wallets to prevent them from cashing out.
Unfortunately, as long as there are greedy people there will be ponzis
Oh dear, Bullshit Billy just posted a video on his FB that someone shared with him. It’s some guy who clearly knows nothing about blockchain analysis, analysing the ITP wallets and coming to the conclusion that they’ve temporarily stopped withdrawals because of hacking/theft.
It actually hurts my brain just knowing that so many idiots are out there. Billy unfortunately seems to be the only one who hasn’t woken up yet, I actually think he believed this shit was real.
I would like to give the UK ringleaders the benefit of the doubt that they were just stupid. But as other above have said they plenty of information to hand to show it was TOTAL scam.
Not only did they keep denying the facts but also actively promoted and profited from it. Thats make them not stupid but complicit in a crime.
IF there is enough evidence to prosecute is above my pay grade. It might actually be better for Mack and others that the police get hold of them before the Mob of people they ripped off!
Link?
This all needs feeding to the media. Someone with all the saved info should pass their info and the whole story to BBC Panorama.
In the scheme of things, ITP isn’t THAT big.
National news perhaps if there are arrests/murders, but other than that, the fact is that, as this site documents, these are dime a dozen and very easy to spot.
Maybe a dime a dozen to people who already know about them but it needs highlighting to larger community, the less educated community.
$72M in 23 days seems big to me. Talk of $6BN stolen by these scammers. Potentially Chinese scammers.
I don’t know, I feel like it’s an interesting story and pretty interesting how people fall for it and all these characters selling it, including having events for it! Madness.
Even if they are 10 a penny, ITP could certainly be the flagship scheme to discuss these Crypto ponzis.
The shear amount of documentation and media to do with ITP is insane and could certainly fill a documentary. They could even touch on the other ponzis and how often crop up with ITP being the main example looked under the microscope.
Idk this is all hypothetical of course.
ITP punks already created a new web app. Disgusting. Will anyone take these clowns down for good?
Agree. But we have to separate wishful thinking and idealism from practicals.
Right now, realisically, the most that can be achieved is converting the victims into advocates and ensuring any that participated in “mass recruitment” recieve criminal sanction.
I am reminded again of one thing which guides me for determining guilt.
When someone says there’s an AI which generates 2.5% guaranteed, 100% of the time, but then goes on to say “only invest what you’re willing to lose and take your original out after a 30 day double” how are they reconciling that?
If the return is guaranteed, why do you need to take out your principal and why do you invest what you’re willing to lose? If there is not only no mechanism outlined for how you could sustain a loss but there is an explicit statement of how you can’t possibly lose.
Although by this metric, even my friend that tried to recruit me is guilty because she too parrotted both these things. But couldn’t tell me how I could actually lose money.
Everyone of them playing the victim card now and banging on about how transparent they have all been from the start. Even though they bragged about booting anyone who spoke up against the app in a negative way or voicing concerns!!
I mean Mr Universal Credit himself Geoff Holloway taken all his posts down from his group, even claiming yesterday it was ‘like betting on the horses’ despite selling this as 100% accurate AI driven trading machine for months! Hope he’s paid his taxes, still has £10k of his ill gotten gains in his bank.
These guys were pushing the realms of silliness all the time with there bullshit £100,000 dollars for non payment, double bubble and bonuses, and still people fell for them!
This is a link to the video Billy posted:
loom.com/share/317b5dda52a546db959c062e726f36ed?sid=5a6bad41-1159-4451-a425-74130dd815b1
Its insane just how clueless these people are.
In one of the FB groups someone has commented saying there’s going to be a Zoom call at midnight tonight with the US ITP people:
us06web.zoom.us/j/6779980805?pwd=NTlBYjF5em5HbzNGR002OVo4RkljQT09&fbclid=IwAR38_VE1PNa436PdjUynf17EoI2q1cgOtMyOO-HHsKayKsaNm_92FgZDsG8
This is going to be recovery scam probably, trying to onboard the dumbest ones for whom penny still didn’t drop, onto a new scam scheme. Just my guess.
Someone please record this and put it on youtube.
This “Mark on Crypto” dude is just putting on an act in his video on ITP today.
Honestly, he says he’s sorry and that he feels partly responsible and then a few hours later uploads videos on other schemes.
It’s already happened. But apparently it only lasted 5 minutes because it was all kicking off with threats etc.
I don’t think anyone ‘official’ was actually on the call, it was the same link used in previous week’s zoom calls.
This group on FB (ITP Corporation UK Trader) is still promoting it:
facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552114785166
On that group page is a post from a week ago with pictures of people who also appear on a separate image of them all holding up a banner saying BILLYS ITP TEAM.
Is anyone even withdrawing ? I’ve heard a couple people say they have took small amounts over the last few days but I believe them to be talking rubbish just to try and keep the hope
ITP Corp collapsed 7 days ago. It’s over.
Billy Horncastle and Matty Tomlinson have now deleted their Facebook profiles. Guessing the angry mobs are out in force.
Zoom call from yesterday. Complete with a link to BehindMLM at 14:41
youtu.be/HgX8PfBKxEo?si=eLOWggc_uOHkpmGW
So googled JR Mckinney and came across this case (Ozedit: derails removed)
@Gav ITP Corp was a simple Chinese click a button app Ponzi. Stop spreading irrelevant misinformation.
Fair enough.
Thought it was a coincidence that there was a case in america with a guy called Mckinney who was hosting that zoom yesterday. The case involved a company called ITP and it was a ponzi.
Haha, that’s brilliant.
Billy/Matty, show me you’re guilty without actually saying you are guilty.
I was watching some videos on Youtube and came across one where some of the main dipsh1ts like Billy and “Mr Mack” were showing off their prizes from ITP.
They were proudly displaying their new Macbooks but “Mr Mack” was in the Apple store and hinting that he had purchased it himself on the understanding that ITP would reimburse him the money.
Hahahah… what kind of prize is that?
Well done Mr Mack, you won! Go buy your Macbook and we’ll put the money in your ITP account so you can withdraw it in 30 days. Go ahead [snigger]… collect your prize [gaffaw]… Pick what you want from the Apple Store [teeheehee]… we’ll reimburse you [lololol]…
Clowns.
Billy and Matty are actually going around playing the victim card and are saying that they have actually lost more than the people they got on the app.
They are actually seeing what was on screen as an extension to their wealth!
For anyone actually eating that up, just remember the thousands that these two took out was basically the money you put in!
This ‘loss’ they are claiming is numbers on a screen, it wasn’t real! They stole from you! They both did very well off this!
Just finishing off my report pack to send into South East Ambulance service for our fraudulent little friend Mandy Hill for them to have a good look over.
Just seen a video of someone saying they knew it was a Ponzi and invited 180 people to his team without telling them the risks.
Isnt even sorry and he has made 200k off his team’s losses. It’s actually crazy.
A new Adolf Hitler then!
Billy might’ve actually been dense enough to believe it, from what I can gather on his videos, and if he actually put $30k back in for the thanksgiving bonus then that would confirm his stupidity.
Matty claims to be some kind of business guru, has published a book about business for 10 year olds, so his reputation will be ruined if he says that he thought it was real.
If these guys were robbing banks or defrauding insurance companies, nobody round here would bat an eyelid, probably even be applauded by some.
But robbing friends and family, scamming naive people from deprived areas who really can’t afford to lose money (especially this time of year), people won’t stand for that, it could get very nasty.
This mob mentality is becoming very dangerous. There are people suffering now who have nothing to do with just because of links to people, be it through friendships, work or businesses. This is not fair.
Yes, go after the people involved but I’m seeing businesses, workplaces etc being targeted on line with threats and awful comments, just because someone had involvement with them away from ITP or they were pictured there or something.
It’s not fair, yes they deserve all they get but leave others out of it unless there is proof of their involvement.
Been telling em all bfor weeks time and atime agin in groups, in sarcastic statement… RUN RUN RUN.
Finally had to say in clear words and got kicked out. Still they wanted Dinner Bonus.
Small print clearlt stated: Dinner Bonus for Mack!
Ok ignore that they had posted something in telegram about deactivating accounts if you didn’t install the web app versions and then deleted it on telegram within a minute.
ITP posted and removed this on their telegram:
What about this Mark crypto guru is he in on it ? He claims he lost money also and his Channel is only 3 months old.
He is sorry for making people believe it was the real McCoy. He should stop making crypto videos I personally think.
So what happen now to leaders that lied to get money out of us ? It say Mack took 1.6 million out on another forum and employed still by big company in Leicester selling electricity while lower people suffer what they done .
I feel for you. I really do. It’s Christmas time and families need all they can get.
There’s a petition somewhere on here, maybe someone can help. Rest assured he will get his comeuppance.
Mark and the likes of RLG Trading really should be reported because they don’t have a clue what they are talking about and are basically just promoting scams. I’d be embarrassed to if I was Ryan to be honest putting that content out.
But for them they make the money back quickly through referral commissions so will make a small amount of profit on each scam. His followers just blindly follow him around and likely lose a lot before the penny drops.
The best thing you can do is just keep reporting his post as a scam on YouTube.
These ‘disclaimers’ he makes on each video he posts is a con in itself. He knows full well by posting and making out he is clued up on the markets and crypto in general he will pick up comms regardless. Just report them and keep reporting them.
Matt Tomlinson has been removed as director of REK41 CIC on 27th November 2023 according to Companies House. Very strange timing coming just after the collapse of ITP.
its crazy that the business he looks to have been director for was REK41 which look to be raising money all the time for the community ….hope he hasn’t stolen any of theres?
Looks like Matt Tomlinsons girlfriend Emily Gleaves has been removed from Director at REK41 on the same day aswell.
Thanks Jay, that’s very interesting.
How curious that they would both be removed as Directors a couple of days after the ponzi they were heavily promoting collapsed.
Emily was definitely involved in ITP. I saw a video where she was holding her phone up in the middle of a bar with Tomlinson and a bunch of other dorks reciting that daft motto they all loved so much.
I believe she is also a councillor…
Has anyone actually asked Rek41 because I’ve met the owner Rob Cumine and he seems proper genuine and I can’t see anything of him on any itp stuff or on his private socials.
Unless he’s just a lot smarter but my guess is they’ve been sacked because of this looking at the dates.
@Mammal, she’s an ex councillor now. Was for the green party I think. Possibly had some involvement as she is Matts partner and on this FB page:
facebook.com/profile.php?id=61552114785166
with Matt showing off their balances on phones.
This FB page is also still making out everything is legit, last update was 8 hrs ago. Ive reported it to crime stoppers.
What’s REKT41?
I think Mack is hosting a zoom meeting rn.
According to group leader that’s gonna be the last Zoom meeting for ITP.
Last message from ITP:
“You must complete the registration and activation of your new account in the new system before December 3rd, (adding at least $100 to your new account is considered to be the registration and activation of your new account, after you complete this operation, the system will unify your team members to restore the data of the old account and upgrade the withdrawal channel).
If you do not complete the registration and activation of your new account in accordance with the specified time, the system will consider that you automatically give up the restoration of the old account assets and team and other rights and interests.”
The end of the show is very near.
Macks TRX account has been published and it shows he’s withdrawn at least $2.6m from this wallet.
tronscan.org/#/address/TToiAR9JvXghv53XynCtHugnS2qw7Vb2Vf
It’s not $100.
It’s 35 usdt.
But that’s still a scam on its own
Charlie apology video has arrived.
Matt Tomlinson is ex forces and has done an awful lot for his local charities from what I’m hearing. It appears he’s devastated as he truly believed it was real and was trying to help people.
There are rumours that the majority of people he signed up, he paid for himself to help them make some money before Xmas and he has lost thousands.
I don’t know much about his partner but I do know they were both part of a community charity, which appears to have parted company with them, so one would assume they are not happy either.
If true, this is really sad because I understand stupidity isn’t really an excuse but in some cases it may actually be a valid excuse.
It’s actually $1.3M, you have to filter it to transactions going OUT.
Listened to a few snippets of it. Basically his excuses are all “ITP said this, so I thought it was true”, for example “ITP said they have launched a lawsuit against BehindMLM, so I believed they intended to be around for a long time”.
Come on man! Did you even check this information, could’ve even messaged this site and found that out easily.
“They hired someone to build a website, so they must be legit!”. Oh dear!
He never tried to verify the identity of any of the ITP “staff” that were contacting him, didn’t try to find them on social or linkedin.
Did no due diligence whatsoever, yet proceeded to sell this on to people who would invest real money into it, which benefitted himself massively.
I look forward to the videos of Charlie contacting his victims and offering them compensation out of his ill-gotten gains.
I hope his good conscience drives him to make it right with a public apology and to use his gains to help out his victims.
Why nobody talks about “global manager where his face was published on their app or videos” his fb address: (Ozedit: link removed)
Because it’s all bullshit. ITP Corp was a simple Chinese “click a button” app Ponzi.
Next you’ll be telling us Albert Gonzales is a real person…
I’ve seen videos of matt tomlinson practically begging people not to withdraw as it will create essentially a bank run and then it will collapse.
This to me implies he new what ITP was and wanted to keep victims in for as long as possible, there was a video of tomlinson withdrawing 10k with a bunch of chums chanting the logo.
This one was RL person 1000% confirmed seen videos with him etc, but u deleted link to his fb, no prob.
Believing stupid shit is what led you here in the first place. ITP Corp is a Chinese “click a button” app Ponzi.
I can hire an actor and shoot videos with him saying he’s the Pope. Same story here, it’s just an actor saying he’s Albert.
And the stance will remain like that unless this guy will show you an ID or other document confirming his identity as Albert Gonzales.
Posted by Billy Horncastle:
Another one playing the victim. Yes I do believe he is that stupid. But also he was one of the admins who would shut people down and kick them out of groups for asking sensible questions like “This looks like a ponzi”, or “has anyone read the BehindMLM page, it seems to make sense”.
The warnings were there. He got people to invest in something without doing any due diligence. Recruiting people boosted his profits. So much evidence against him!
So many people asked “is this a ponzi” in his groups, surely if he had any decency he would research what a ponzi is, if people can withdraw from ponzi schemes etc etc.
Don’t condone threats of violence, but I hope the same police he has informed about it, also look into the reasons why. Promoting scams is illegal.
Billy wants to play victim but the thousands he made was him pretty much stealing his friends and families money.
Thanks for posting that Ben.
I don’t think either Billy or Matt will ever have to worry about being overly burdened with intelligence.
I’ve seen a couple of ITP-related videos with Matt Tomlinson in and he comes across as a very odd fish. Apparently he is a motivational speaker… well I can confirm that if he started speaking it would motivate me to leave the room.
As for Billy, I saw a FB post where he shared some video from our benefit-claiming friend Geoff Holloway who was boasting about a $50k withdrawal. Someone pointed out that the $50k never landed in Geoff’s wallet and that Billy should really make that clear to everybody but he refused to do so.
He was clearly happy to mislead anyone following him on Facebook so, thick as he obviously is, he’s also not above hoodwinking people if he thinks it might make him more money.
Matt Tomlinson has been removed as director of REK41 CIC on 27th November 2023 according to Companies House. Very strange timing coming just after the collapse of ITP.
He is still listed as director of MDfitout
It’s looking like a prison cell may be the best place for them. Word on the ground here in Merseyside is they are in hiding and there are some serious threats being made.
Don’t know how true that is but it wouldn’t surprise me. Guilty or not, they’ve made money.
I think they need to confess and pay the money back if they genuinely didn’t realise. But as said above, how could you not know? Especially when people were telling them all.
It also appears from the rumour mill that Matt and Emily were sacked as board members of Rek41 as a result of their involvement in this.
Don’t know how true that is but if they didn’t know it would seem like a reasonable response for an organisation such as that. Perhaps MD fitout need to follow suit that’s assuming their board are aware.
Remember: Nobody accidentally finds themselves a top promoter of a Ponzi scheme.
Stopping short of death threats and other types of physical harm, these scammers deserve the backlash.
Full-time scammers Hugh Paul Ward and Adrian McQuaid aka Adrian Knight were the main promoters of this ponzi in Ireland.
The whole Albert Gonzalez is “tongue in cheek”:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gonzalez
It’s such a horrible situation. From all accounts Billy and Matt are decent guys deep down. But they got sucked in, and I feel greed has blinded them to the truth.
Let’s face it, this scam developed into a cult, everyone who got involved exhibited signs of brainwashing. I mean, “Let Technology Shine the Light of Life”. What the fuck!
The real culprits are so far away and untouchable that none of the anger is being directed at them, they played Matt, Billy, Charlie, Mack, Geoff and all the others like puppets, targeted their lack of crypto knowledge and the greed that everyone is vulnerable to and made them dance.
What continues to rile me is the culture of censorship of anyone questioning the logic behind the scheme. Any legitimate organisation welcomes questions and challenges.
The notion of negativity being a danger to success is something that all scams are built on, and this should be the biggest red flag of all.
This censorship is the biggest crime committed by the promoters and group admins!
Get real.
You participate in a crypto ponzi doesn’t matter if you’re the Pope. You deserve everything coming to you.
Don’t disagree. They’ve made their beds, and unfortunately didn’t make enough money, so they have to lie in it. Even Mack hasn’t made enough to live on the run forever, could maybe make $1.3M last a few years in Dubai on a modest budget, but he’ll have to face the music eventually.
There is a new video by someone Mr Dave, ITP UK Regional Market Leader. It’s about 3 min long and he is reading out a written statement, stating that ITP has helped him to get out of construction jobs and helping him with his health and wealth, blah blah blah.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that he is just reading out a propaganda message, and he doesn’t even bother to pretend like it’s something he believes in but just eyes down and reading it from a paper.
Anybody knows who is this Mr Dave? And is he being promoted as new ITP UK Leader?
Would it help if I post this video here?
Thanks,
Another ITP victim (always blaming myself)
I strongly disagree with the sentiment that all of them are puppets.
They have no other choice than to claim they’ve been “fooled” or are also “victims” because as soon as they claim that they knew it was a ponzi and they just played along, they incriminate themselves.
This way they have plausible deniability. How do you distinguish a genuine cretin who went on stage and made videos promoting ITP, fully believing that it’s legit, from someone who knew it is a Chinese Ponzi, but they also know they have a head start and can make a couple milions from morons in the space of 6 months?
From Mack’s speeches, meetings, his behaviour you can tell he’s in that second group. Charlie is either a cretin or a phenomenal actor – unsure.
Regardless, they all claim now that “everyone should take responsibility for their own investment decisions”. The fuck? What investment? Where is your responsibility for promoting it?
They deserve all that’s coming.
Why waste money hiring actors? There must be some total dumbshits in the UK still investing if they’re not pulling the plug entirely yet.
From the telegram groups, Mr. dave has been removed as admin from them a few days ago. ITP manager (who no one knows) in the group posted that video which was made a very long time ago.
If I remember rightfully in the summer Mr. Dave had all his ‘earnings’ froze and had long discussions over telegram with Andreas.
Andreas seems to be one of the bigger leaders of the ITP group who seems to post information on telegram before anyone else knows. but again no one knows who he really is either.
Mr. dave has not been promoted it seems ITP corp. have edited this as the original video does not mention him as an ITP market Leader for the UK
They’re all made up personas/actors. It doesn’t really matter.
So the staff they are talking about when you register in the new itp app so your old data would be restored its all fake?
Yep. All bullshit. Everything about ITP Pro has been bullshit from day one (as we keep telling you all).
Omar. For Pete’s sake they are absolute arses and are trying to get people to invest again with 35 dollars!! Can you not see that?
itp.club has officially ended. Site no longer works.
The ITP server must still be up as it returns:
at least from my browser.
New clip up from Charlie Wildish.
youtube.com/watch?v=btK5Eu2hnAQ
Comments are on (clearly being moderated).
Watched on 1.5 speed but doesn’t seem to mention anything about the money “he made” in the context of ponzi theft, it seems as though he still doesn’t understand his gains are other’s loss and only explicitly acknowledges other people’s losses of their “investments”.
Reiterates that he always told others not to double down but to just wait for the compounding, that people should have put in more than they could afford to lose (despite as usual still not saying what the historically observable risk was).
The most he carried is the following: “I’ve made 10’s of thousands, not 100’s of thousands.”
He did say “I **hate** to admit it but behindMLM are correct.”
His continued poor choice of words could leave me to me to believe he is as stupid as he says he is, not blameless, nor free of liability, but unbelievably ignorant.
But he also acknowledges he made some of his videos after behindMLM came to his attention.
He claims ITP is 1.5 years running. This is news to me.
Several screen caps for “albert” and team, he was definitely being used directly by ITP. He acknowledges the ITP staff he related to have “disappeared without a trace”.
Still inadvertantly omits to say it’s a ponzi, only to say behind MLM is right. Saying ITP “did a runner” ultimately I don’t think he’s willing to explicitely say it’s a ponzi because that could hurt his money.
He finished with “serious fraud are looking to freeze their wallets … hopefully you can all get some money back”.
Total BS.
So in short, he’s still selling (shelling) false hope.
Before all this happened my account was blocked and I was told to form a team and if I didn’t then my account will be blocked.
I didn’t form a team and was blocked again. Then I was told there will unblocked me and untill I don’t form a team I will not be able to withdraw.
Charlie is back peddling it’s obvious
Is it a Ponzi? Yes
Are you a liar? Yes.
This is a businessman he knew what was happening from the start.
Would genuinely love to have a conversation to those idiots who thought BehindMLM commenters/OP was running a defamation campaign against ITP. All of them gone silent now.
Been warning all of them for many months. Nowhere to be seen. Such is life.
I’m Wirral based and hearing that there are some very serious threats out on Billy and Matt from a well known family who you really wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of.
They will end up in a safe house at this rate instead of prison!
There are videos of them boasting how much they were withdrawing etc and considering how some of these are (Supposed) business men they had to know this was a Ponzi, banning and blocking ppl from discussing it as scam. Deleting socials and videos of their involvement once the scam unravelled.
Its probably ruined peoples Xmas’s and in some peoples cases maybe their lives. (That girl who put her uni money in springs to mind).
Unfortunately Jay the university girl was led by people she trusted, they must feel really bad for her at the minute, and a little stupid for believing this whole debacle could somehow make them wealthier.
It’s still greed at the end of the day which makes people gamble with crazy schemes like this. I do hope they pick up the pieces and learn from this now, albeit the hard way.
You’re not one of, those soft cunts working for Merseyrail that fell for that shit are you?
Got a friend who works for MR they said half the depot is on ITP stupid mugs.
No pal, been banging the ponzi drum hard on deaf ears for the best part of 6 months!
Fair enough, I’ve been doing the same trying to warn people I know who I got involved. Unfortunately, a lot of people didn’t listen.
I lost a couple of “friends” over it. Because I told them direct that it was a Ponzi Scheme and they were stealing from other people.
They didn’t like that and we are no longer friends . I’m not from Merseyside but seems A lot of people from Merseyside got duped.
It’s funny because it always seems that the most liberal labour voting towns and cities who fall for get rich quick schemes. Yet they say how Tories are rich robbing idiots etc. The irony and hypocrisy is unreal.
ITP has now got a fraud warning by FCA (abit too late for that).
I’d been wondering when they’d get around to it. As usual; a day late, a buck short.
I’ve been warning people against ITP for weeks (since my friend tried to introduce me to it).
There’s one person that had grown a team of people and just won’t have that ITP is a scam. I’ve sent him the link to the FCA’s warning and his response?
The ‘proper’ ITP corp has probably reported the scam site themselves after their hack.
Some people are truly deluded.
Had a call from Nicole McIntyre from LeicesterShire Police.
We had a good chat, and she wanted a lot of information off me, which I gladly supplied and will follow up with proof on email.
Unfortunately, they can not follow Social Media posts. So we screenshot the evidence and email it across.
They are paying Particular attention on the 3 individuals. Mack, Billy and Charlie.
Even though Charlie has deleted everything, its not an issue for them. They are also paying attention to the Leicester Event.
As a Police force, they have direct links with all Action Fraud etc and are trying to collect as much info as possible.
So everything is moving forward, the 3 criminals are definitely being investigated.
Will keep you posted.
I also want to add to the above post. Please, if anyone is a victim, please do contact Action Fraud and Leicester Police.
If (BIG IF) the 3 are charged with anything, as with all criminals, their assets and income will all be looked into. So, please its worth a shot that you may get something back. worth trying.
That sounds like a result Darren. Keep us posted bud.
Roger Cook back in the 80’s would have sorted this out, no problem lol.
Nice!!
If i get chance i’ll put up a mirror of Charlie’s content.
Nice!!
If i get chance i’ll put up a mirror of Charlie’s content.
Do you mean you will upload his videos on another channel? If so, please send link here and I can forward it to them.
Yeah exactly that, got the channel made and added some vids but i had to verify to upload more than 8 vids in a day which takes 1-2 days.
Should have it all sorted by the weekend – will defo send a link or at least the name so you can find it.
@Oz please edit this as appropriate
See below for the channel Darren, only thing i’ve edited is the video name to add tags and the thumbnail as i wanted to do something you can’t miss and watermarking the whole vid would be too time consuming.
I’ve only added CharlieWidish’s vids but will add others when i get time.
Link if allowed – youtube.com/@ITPScamMirror/videos
Name of channel – @ITPScamMirror
they bloked my old account with a lot of money and then i ivestet another 100$ to reactivate this old account and now they deleted me with my new account.
the webside is even close!! this people are gangsters and scammers !! be careful!!!
@Gil
Noted, Thats bloody good work!!
I will forward this.
@Kurt
Yes we’ve been banging on about this for weeks on here. It was a scam from the start.
Sorry for your loss. I just hope that you didn’t involve too many friends or family in this escapade.
Posted in ITP TG channel, looks like they’re using the channel to promote another scam:
Thanks, I’ll add DQF AI to the review list.
Way behind on reviews at the moment because news hasn’t slowed down 🙁
Its official the Police are now involved and arrests are being made.
(Ozedit: snip, see below)
Nope. It’s a YouTube video citing a purported email circulating on social media.
This stands out as suspicious:
Financial Conduct Authority is also incorrectly capitalized.
Until I see something official this is likely just more bullshit from ITP Corp scammers.
@Oz Your perfectly correct, unless verified.
I am a victim, lost money from one of the gang of 6, he was an associate, not a friend but his background was impeccable. I am still in PTSD over this.
I met the guy, he told me not his first crypto, sold me the bull this is legit, because of his background I believed him, so I invested.
Only later after finding this forum did I discover the truth, the scale of this.. to know he was actively publicly promoting this?!! to the innocent general public! is unforgivable.
Anyway, probably the police will be in touch soon as I have private emails that incriminate him, admission of ponzi etc.
Exactly Oz! I commented on one video asking for the source and until i see proof of the domain name the email is from i’m saying it could even be ITP peeps starting the rumour so people that were scammed stop reporting them.
If you were scammed personally then please take the time to report them! It helps even if it seems like it doesn’t.
can somebody tell me if this is a real recovery link: (Ozedit: URL removed)
There are no real recovery links.
Recovery anything = scam.
Is it too late now to report to Action Fraud?
It’s never too late to file a fraud report. Getting UK authorities to do act on anything is another matter.