Epic Slim Review: Weight loss coffee + collagen BEpic spinoff
Epic Slim fails to provide ownership or executive information on its website.
In fact as I write this, Epic Slim’s website, hosted on the domain “epicslim.com”, refuses access without a “sponsor username”:
If we click on the “login” link however, it’s revealed Epic Slim’s backoffice is “powered by BEpic Worldwide LLC”:
BEpic is an MLM company run by Dan Putnam.
Looking like the love child of Guy Fieri and serial MLM fraudster Jan Gregory, Putnam’s involvement in Epic Slim is further confirmed by his appearance in recent marketing videos:
The SEC sued Putnam and partner Angel Rodriguez for securities fraud in 2020.
Through various scams, the SEC alleges Putnam and Rodriguez defrauded consumers out of at least $12 million.
Putnam settled the SEC’s Ponzi fraud charges in January 2023. In September 2024 Putnam’s judgment topped $5.66 million.
Outside of Putnam’s SEC fraud charges;
- in August 2023 BehindMLM documented Flex, an AI spam grift attached to BEpic
- in March 2024 BehindMLM documented Aiscend, a “hands free” unregistered trading opportunity attached to BEpic
- in October 2024 BehindMLM documented Avasar, a BEpic spinoff unregistered investment scheme pitching $250 shares in Amazon stores on the promise of “monthly returns”
Also worth noting is Putnam partnering up with Travis Martin and JC Martinez to launch Against All Odds in 2022.
Against All Odds’ website is still up but it’s assumed to have collapsed after Martin was arrested on child sex charges back in January.
As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
Epic Slim’s Products
While no product details are provided on Epic Slim’s website, Epic Slim does feature on BEpic’s website:
Our rich, smooth, all-natural instant coffee includes adaptogenic mushrooms, collagen protein, and other health-boosting ingredients.
Additionally, our exclusive formula features CaloriBurn GP, a natural, non-stimulatory thermogenic from grains of paradise extract with fast-acting, long-lasting effects, proven to significantly boost metabolic rate, activate fat burning, and increase calorie expenditure.
There’s also EpicSlim Collagen, marketed as an “appetite suppressant collagen drink”.
Instead of providing consumers with pricing information, BEpic’s website provides a “Start Now” link that requires them to sign up as either a BEpic retail customer or distributor.
When I clicked the “customer” option I was presented with the same “enter your Sponsor’s username” Epic Slim website roadblock.
Epic Slim’s Compensation Plan
Epic Slim’s compensation plan pays on the sale of Epic Slim products to retail customers and recruited affiliates.
Epic Slim Affiliate Ranks
There are twelve affiliate ranks within Epic Slim’s compensation plan.
Along with their qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Partner – sign up as an Epic Slim affiliate
- Brand Partner – sign up as an Epic Slim affiliate, maintain a monthly autoship order and recruit and maintain at least one affiliate who does the same
- Qualified Brand Partner – maintain a monthly autoship order and recruit and maintain two affiliates with autoship orders (placed one on both sides of the binary team)
- Silver – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 1000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume
- Gold – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 2500 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume
- Platinum – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 5000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume
- Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 7500 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for three consecutive weeks
- Blue Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 15,000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for five consecutive weeks
- Double Blue Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 25,000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for six consecutive weeks
- Black Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 50,000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for eight consecutive weeks
- Double Black Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 100,000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for ten consecutive weeks
- Green Diamond – maintain a minimum 35 PV autoship order and two personally recruited autoship affiliates, and generate 250,000 GV a week in weaker binary team side volume for twelve consecutive weeks
PV stands for “Personal Volume”. PV is sales volume generated by retail orders and an Epic Slim affiliates own purchases.
GV stands for “Group Volume”. GV is PV generated by an affiliate and their downline.
Retail and Recruitment Commissions
Epic Slim affiliates earn a 50% commission on retail customer and recruited affiliate sales order volume.
Note that recruitment commissions are only paid on a recruited affiliate’s first order.
Autoship Recruitment Commissions
Epic Slim affiliates who sign up for a 70 PV or higher autoship order are paid to recruit others who do the same.
- recruit and maintain two autoship affiliates who recruit and maintain two autoship affiliates each = $100 a month
- recruit and maintain three autoship affiliates who recruit and maintain three autoship affiliates each = $300 a month
- recruit and maintain four autoship affiliates who recruit and maintain four autoship affiliates each = $500 a month
- recruit and maintain five autoship affiliates who recruit and maintain five autoship affiliates each = $700 a month
It is possible to qualify with a 35 to 69 PV autoship order, however the above commission amounts are then halved.
Residual Commissions
Epic Slim pays residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
At the end of each week Epic Slim tallies up new sales volume on both sides of the binary team.
Residual commissions are paid as a percentage of sales volume generated on the weaker binary team side:
- Qualified Brand Partners earn an 8% residual commission rate
- Silvers earn a 10% residual commission rate
- Golds earn a 12% residual commission rate
- Platinums earn a 13% residual commission rate
- Diamonds earn a 15% residual commission rate
- Blue Diamonds earn a 16% residual commission rate
- Double Blue Diamonds earn a 17% residual commission rate
- Black Diamonds earn an 18% residual commission rate
- Double Black Diamonds and Green Diamonds earn a 20% residual commission rate
Once paid out on, volume is matched against the stronger binary team side and flushed. Leftover volume on the stronger binary team side carries over.
Matching Bonus
Epic Slim pays a 20% matching bonus on residual commissions earned by personally recruited affiliates.
Generational Bonus
Gold and higher ranked affiliates qualify for a Generational Bonus.
Epic Slim tracks generations across a unilevel team.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Epic Slim defines a generation within each unilevel team leg when a Gold or higher ranked affiliate is found in the leg.
When found, this ranked affiliate caps off the first generation for that leg with the second generation beginning immediately under them.
If a second Gold or higher ranked affiliate is found deeper in the leg, they cap off the second generation with the third beginning immediately under them.
If no second Gold or higher ranked affiliate exists deeper in the leg, the second generation extends the full depth of the leg.
Using this generational structure, Epic Slim pays a 10% Generational Bonus based on rank:
- Golds earn a 10% Generational Bonus on up to two generations per unilevel team leg
- Platinums earn a 10% Generational Bonus on up to three generations per unilevel team leg
- Diamonds or higher earn a 10% Generational Bonus up on to four generations per unilevel team leg
Rank Achievement Bonus
Epic Slim rewards affiliates for qualifying at Blue Diamond and higher with the following one-time Rank Achievement Bonuses:
- qualify at Blue Diamond and receive $10,000
- qualify at Double Blue Diamond and receive $20,000
- qualify at Black Diamond and receive $40,000
- qualify at Double Black Diamond and receive $75,000
- qualify at Green Diamond and receive $150,000
Bonus Pool
Epic Slim takes 1% of company-wide sales volume and places it into a bonus pool.
Epic Slim affiliates qualify for a monthly share in the bonus pool by:
- recruiting two affiliates within 48 hours of signing up; and then
- continuing to recruit two affiliates each month
Joining Epic Slim
Epic Slim’s website states one can “get started for $15”.
Epic Slim marketing documentation states “it costs nothing to start”.
Whether joining Epic Slim as a Brand Partner is $15 or free is unclear.
Epic Slim Conclusion
Like BEpic, Epic Slim is set up as an autoship recruitment scheme.
New affiliates sign up and are forced to purchase product each month to participate in the attached MLM opportunity.
The specifics of this are MLM commissions kicking in at Qualified Brand Partner, which requires “an active order” and recruitment of two Brand Partners also with an “active order” (an active order each month is going to be autoship 99.9% of the time).
While retail sales are possible and paid out on, they’re clearly not the focus of Epic Slim. Autoship recruitment is (to the point it’s mandatory), lending itself to Epic Slim operating as a pyramid scheme.
This shouldn’t come as a surprise given Dan Putnam’s past.
As to the Epic Slim branded coffee and collagen drink; weight loss coffee is nothing we haven’t seen before. A weight loss collagen I haven’t seen before.
A quick Google search for “weight loss collagen” returns plenty of competing products. Unfortunately due to Epic Slim hiding pricing information from consumers, value comparison is not possible.
This is reflective of attached products not mattering in an MLM pyramid scheme.
As with all MLM pyramid schemes, when recruitment dries up so too will commissions.
This will see those at the bottom of Epic Slim stop paying for monthly autoship. This in turn means those above them will stop getting paid.
Unless new recruits are found, eventually these affiliates also stop paying for autoship.
As this trickles up Epic Slim’s affiliate genealogy, once enough affiliates stop paying for autoship an irreversible collapse is triggered.
Math guarantees the majority of participants in MLM pyramid schemes lose money.
