BeOnPush Review: $20-$10,000 investment pack Ponzi
As per a fake news video featured on the BeOnPush website, BeOnPush is purportedly a “UK and Luxembourg based company”.
Luxembourg is a known tax-haven and registration in the UK requires little more than a fee and a UK-based address on paper.
No address in the UK is provided on the BeOnPush website, with a search of the Luxembourg address bringing up a number of businesses using it.
This is typical of rented virtual mailboxes, which is probably also the case in the UK.
Identified as CEO of BeOnPush in the video is a “Ferki Demirovski” (right).
On his Facebook profile Demirovski lists his location as Brussels, Belgium. Rather than the UK or Luxembourg, this is likely where BeOnPush is being operated out of.
I wasn’t able to dig up a concrete MLM history for Demirovski, but according to his LinkedIn profile he’s been a Macedonian political adviser, runs his own consulting firm and performed political analysis for the EU.
Demirovski took up his CEO position with BeOnPush in August and is presumably also the owner of the company.
Read on for a full review of the BeOnPush MLM business opportunity.
The BeOnPush Product Line
BeOnPush has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market BeOnPush affiliate membership itself.
The BeOnPush Compensation Plan
The BeOnPush compensation plan sees affiliates invest in “investment packs” of up to $10,000.
BeOnPush affiliates are also paid to recruit new investors into the scheme.
Investment Pack ROIs
BeOnPush offer affiliates invest in eight investment packs, with up to $10,000 able to be invested at a time.
An eventual 150% ROI is advertised on the BeOnPush website, with more funds invested resulting in a higher daily ROI paid out:
- $20 investment pack = 1x daily ROI multiplier
- $50 investment pack = 1.05x daily ROI multiplier
- $100 investment pack = 1.1x daily ROI multiplier
- $200 investment pack = 1.15x daily ROI multiplier
- $500 investment pack = 1.2x daily ROI multiplier
- $1000 investment pack = 1.3x daily ROI multiplier
- $5000 investment pack = 1.4x daily ROI multiplier
- $10,000 investment pack = 1.5x daily ROI multiplier
From $20 to $10.000 the investment packs expire at 150%.
Each ticket pays daily according to the today’s interest + the bonus linked to its value.
BeOnPush advertise a daily interest rate of between 0.5 to 3.5%.
Referral Commissions
BeOnPush pay referral commissions on investments made by recruited affiliates, paid out down two levels of recruitment (unilevel):
- investments by personally recruited affiliates (level 1) pays 13% and
- investments by affiliates recruited by level 1 affiliates (level 2) pays 2%
Residual Commissions
Residual commissions in BeOnPush are paid out via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
Investment volume is tracked between both sides of the binary, with BeOnPush advertising a 10% commission payout on investment volume.
Whether this is on both sides of the binary or just the side with less investment volume is unclear.
Affiliate Rewards
Based on binary investment volume, BeOnPush offer affiliates the following rewards:
- 10,000 binary investment volume = a “luxury pen”
- 30,000 binary investment volume = “VIP night in a club”
- 80,000 binary investment volume = flight voucher
- 200,000 binary investment volume = “Apple Pack”
- 500,000 binary investment volume = “Vertu phone + 1 year luxury concierge”
- 1,000,000 binary investment volume = Rolex watch
- 5,000,000 binary investment volume = “luxury company car”
- 50,000,000 binary investment volume = “sports car, beach apartment and private jet hours”
Joining BeOnPush
Affiliate membership with BeOnPush is free, however affiliates must invest between $20 to $10,000 to participate in the MLM income opportunity.
Conclusion
Beonpush has investment in various sectors of the online marketing and in majority trading positions in the Real Time Bidding.
The profit that the company earns from these sources and investments; is shared among the members, paid members will become stakeholders and will receive profit according to their investment.
…or, BeOnPush simply shuffle newly invested funds around to pay existing investors.
Whatever “real time bidding is”, I can guarantee you it doesn’t consistently return enough funds to pay out BeOnPush’s 150% ROI guarantee, 15% investment referral commissions or residual binary commissions.
Logically speaking, if Demirovski had stumbled upon a proverbial golden goose capable of such returns, why then would he need your money?
Thus the only logical explanation as to where the funds BeOnPush pay out are sourced from is new affiliate investment, making BeOnPush just another Euro tax-haven Ponzi scheme.
As with all Ponzi schemes, once new affiliate investment dries up so too will the daily ROI BeOnPush promise their affiliates.
An imminent collapse will manifest itself by the daily ROI percentage paid out dropping and remaining close to 0.5%.
This will likely go on for a while as BeOnPush continue on in the hopes new investment will pick up.
At some point though Ferki Demirovski or whoever he’s working with are going to pull the plug, rather than pay out the funds they themselves have skimmed off the top.
That’s when BeOnPush collapses, leaving the majority of investors with a loss.
The guy is from Montenegro just this should be enough to stay away.
And the name he use is completly fake. Why on earth whould a politician member of the european parliament bother making such system? And with the contacts he has with his job he can get billions from investors and pay them peanuts as interests.
All this is so fake. An other obvious ponzi scheme.
Maybe we should warn the real minister before it become too big and make the real guy some troubles?
I ended up here doing my research. I have not invested in this page, but your posts is just an opinion from some random internet user, not from someone that actually knows about this subject.
So, be more helpful. Hoy do you “guarantee” your opinion? In what are you based on? I would really like to know, because reading this has not helped at all.
I don’t “guarantee” anything, but the review itself is based entirely on BeOnPush’s compensation plan (business model).
If you find the marketing BS someone is obviously pushing on to you to be more comforting, then best of luck to you.
First of all, I want to thank the admin of this blog for leting me express myself.
Let me introduce myself, my name is jerome and i am a member Beonpush.
I’m here to try to make you understand that this business is far away from being smoky.
Reading your comments, I realize that most of us can not even imagine a daily yield made by the RTB.
So what is RTB:
(Ozedit: No idea what RTB is, but I’m pretty sure it has nothing to do with BeOnPush soliciting investments of up to $10,000 and using them to pay off existing investors.
Irrelevant waffle about RTB removed.)
@Jerome
If BeOnPush was generating external revenue, through RTB or any other vehicle, they wouldn’t need to solicit investments of up to $10,000 from affiliates.
All that’s happening here is new affiliate funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Hello Oz or whatever is your name.
i heard few times from your mouth the word i dont know.
Beonpush is not an MLM company. What you do, it is not informing people, we call this Mude.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Best regards,
Jerome
Not my problem chief. Go and educate yourself.
2 level comp plan = MLM.
And you’re in denial. Let’s call it even and best of luck with the scamming.
Congratulation you are briliant.
It’s hilarious to read any comments defending a system such as this one.
Are people so dumb, to believe there is a system to earn 1-2% per day, guaranteed? Why in gods name would anybody with such a system need some lousy $20 from a poor soul? He’d be a fucking billionaire in NO TIME.
@Webmaster, you’re doing a great job trying to save some of those poor souls of losing their last few pennies! Keep up your work!
What about the news video where you see beopuch on the news on bbc. why do you say this is fake ??
Seeing as you’re the first person to bring it up, nobody said a video from the BBC is fake.
In any event, whether such footage exists has little bearing on the $20 to $10,000 Ponzi scheme behind BeOnPush.
BeOnPush’s business model makes it a Ponzi scheme, not whether or not they featured on the BBC.
Hello,
You say:
what video is it you refer to ?
That’s not a BBC video, that’s some paid promotional video they doctored up. Has nothing to do with the BBC.
There are some people in world, for them is every Network “ponzi” and “scam”. Cause they arent able to UNDERSTAND network and MLM…..
Sure, there is no guarantee – nowhere in the world^^. Sure, there sometimes ARE scammers (like in real life, too), but there also are some very honest and successful companies, existing since years….
^^ A guarantee doesn’t make a business opportunity a Ponzi scheme. Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors does.
That’s what BeOnPush do. Trying to dismiss the obvious as ignorance is scamming 101.
HAHAHAHA it’s hilarious you pretend to be an expert about all this subjects. You don’t even know what RTB? (Ozedit: RTB has nothing to do with BeOnPush using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.)
^^ I removed the waffle and insults.
Like every other ad-credit scheme, if third-party advertising was funding the ROIs, BeOnPush wouldn’t be soliciting $20-$10,000 investments from affiliates.
They have to solicit investments, because these are the funds they pay existing investors with. “RTB” is just jargon they tote so people like you can run around the internet defending what is otherwise a blatant Ponzi scheme.
Then I will post it again (without insults) because I want people to notice, at leat in this post, that you know NOTHING, but anyways you speak your opinion like it is FACT; and as I said, I am not defending the company because I am not even interested in investing with them, but that is your best defense against people that shows your ignorance.
It’s hilarious you pretend to be an expert about all this subjects. You don’t even know what RTB? You are REALLY outdated.
Real time bidding is insanely huge, it is dominating the online advertising market because how good it is to deliver ads in a more effective and efficient way. You manage a website and you don’t even know how programmatic advertising works?
You really think there are no systems to earn high interests like that? Do you at least know Forex? I guess not.
And I make clear I am not defending beonpush here (you’re preferred answer would be how [insult removed] I am for investing money in the company).
My point here is that you are a good example of the Dunning–Kruger effect (a cognitive bias, [insult removed] people can’t realize their own [insult removed]) and one of the main reasons of humanity downfall.
You sir, are the one who needs to be educated:
retargeter.com/blog/general/real-time-bidding-and-programmatic-progress
youtube.com/watch?v=-DiIsrJUsRU
static5.businessinsider.com/image/53c0022e6bb3f7425378d751/the-programmatic-advertising-report-real-time-bidding-is-taking-over-the-digital-ad-market.jpg
I’m not doubting RTB exists, or denying what it is.
I’m saying it’s got nothing to do with BeOnPush solicitng $20 to $10,000 investments and using those investment to pay off existing investors.
If RTB was funding BeOnPush’s advertised ROIs, they wouldn’t need to solicit investments from affiliates.
RTB to BeOnPush is what penny auctions were to Zeek Rewards, cloud computing was to WCM777 or VOIP was to TelexFree.
It’s a Ponzi scheme, time to face facts.
Always appreciate your review Ozi.
A fact is always a fact. If recruitment is the focus and not product sales, you are promoting a scam. Enough said.
Dear all, listening OZ is one thing, but not searching for any info and following head down is another thing.
A scam interesting, please find enclosed an extract of register concerning the company you making bad publicity about.
I would love to know since when a Scam has a capital to start of 150.000 Dollars
beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09714406/filing-history
Yes you are right enough is enough, let us work in peace thanks.
If you bothered to read the actual incorp papers, you’ll realize the company has 1 (yes, ONE) share worth 100000 GBP. In other words, he made up the random number.
FWIW, CompaniesHouse.co.uk’s paper says Demirovski’s registered address is in Trabotiviste, Macedonia. UK reg is indeed virtual.
When it solicits investment from affiliates on the promise of ROIs paid out of subsequently recruited funds.
Seriously, clutch at straws much? A UK registration costs 20 pounds and is used by Indian scammers all the time. It has nothing to do with a fraudulent Ponzi business model.
Yes GBP 100.000 are 146.000 USD info so this explain the 150.000 USD but that is not relevant.
What are you talking about, GBP corporate registration is worth less than toilet paper.
Tons of scammers register there because all you need is a rented PO box and 20 pounds.
Relevance to a $20-$10,000 a pop Ponzi scheme? None.
Corporate registration is less than toilet paper. Waw ok i will leave you last comment for yourself, and the headquarter of Beonpush opened in Dubai is Dubai also a a trashi place made for Ponzi?
Get you info Bro. Have a good day
UK corporate registration.
Take it from someone who’s reviewed hundreds of Indian scams registered in the UK.
And yes, Dubai has little to no Ponzi regulation (see belated EmGoldex warning). It’s the perfect place for foreign national scammers to set up shop.
Speak Asia is another one that comes to mind but there have been many.
Time to throw out the marketing BS and do your own research chief. Welcome to the real world.
And anyway, again… where a company is registered has no bearing on its business model.
BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because it uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. They could be registered on the moon for all the difference it’d make.
Pathetique nothing else to say bye
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you back a scammer into a wall.
Best of luck with the scamming jerome.
and how do you know that beonpush is using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors show me, explain me, but don’t talk without fact, it is easy to do so.
don’t you thing or you are going to tell me something else again?
Read the review. Then read it again.
no i don’t need your review anymore (Ozedit: Then sod off and stop wasting my time.)
i wil get back to you in two years and we will talk in peace. i wish you a good day.
here’s betting you wont be back here in two years, because beonpush wont be around that long.
here’s hoping that in two years you will at least be able to pull your head out of your ass.
You never did. You just felt like mouthing off due to your Ikea Effect and Sunk Cost Fallacy, that any information that goes against your confirmation bias must be challenged, even if you have nothing to challenge it with.
Even now you’re probably off telling others that you’ve “defended” the scheme against “unbelievers”. May want to look up “pigeon chess”.
Here is where you can buy the same video for a few $: fiverr.com/sebski22/record-a-breaking-news-video-presentations?context=advanced_search&context_type=rating&context_referrer=search_gigs&pos=1&funnel=9f48b2eb-ce1c-4d04-a22f-76d88b1ab432
(if you can get the link just go to fiverr.com and search for breaking news video…)
That says much about the honesty of the company ……
Let us just all wait for the Opening of BeOnPush Dubai Office. Don’t prejudge just because it has a binary compensation plan. The fact that it offer’s 150% ROI simply implies that the binary system is just a bonus.
Besides, whether you refer people or not, you will get $30 return on the invested $20 amount.
Do not utter a word that you might just soon regret.. All businesses has risk, scam or not… 🙂 Let us start with a cleaner review…
Thank you.
Right. Because a “new office in Dubai” overrides paying newly invested funds to existing investors.
The problem isn’t a binary compensation plan, the problem is BeOnPush uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. That makes it a Ponzi scheme.
The review is based on BeOnPush’s business model, it’s as “clean” as you can get.
ITs on all the info given regarding BEONPUSH is it Scam, and lots of talking on that. I have read all carefully, iam not into it still now, after reading this i will tell you very openly that i will start Beonpush.
I know iam intelligent, i make my decission and do learn from all tips and these tips helps me to find out what really it is.
I have experiences of these kind of words, people who dont believe in themselves wont make anything. See, study, read and make urself the trust.
Still today i have not seen any groceries selling TRUST or in near future we will get it to buy it that is for sure.
So do believe in urself and build the trust with urself and take ur decission.I know that for this comment also their will be someone to comment with, i just say few words I JUST DONT CARE. AS i take my decissions.
You are an absolute fool unable to comprehend a Ponzi-driven compensation plan.
All the “belief” in the world won’t save you, have fun losing your money.
Thank you very much for your article Oz! I was *that* close to realize by myself that BeonPush was a scam but I coulnd’t (wouldn’t ?) because of all the littles stars shining in my eyes.
A guy in my class told me today about BeonPush (yes that thing is still alive …), and I knew about Ponzi’s schemes but the fact that I was told by a person of trust which had kind of proof (money made from BeonPush by a friend of his), BeonPush being pretty well done (for a Ponzi) and selling you dreams well… It can truly have an amazing psychological power!
But happily your article broke the spell and it became obvious it was a scam, rather bad now that I’m back to my senses.
Now writing a thesis to explain and convince my friends it is a scam, the guy who told me about it is pretty deep in the charm because of his friend who made money out of BeinPush… Anyway thanks again!
No worries Xhell, glad you found the review useful.
It’s like urban legends, it’s always friend of a friend who makes money, isn’t it?
Well to some who dont know what is SPONZI, investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp
LOOK it properly and read too please
You are an absolute fool unable to comprehend a Ponzi-driven compensation plan. All the “belief” in the world won’t save you, have fun losing your money.
Now i said i will join it three days ago and today i have joined it, lets start the journey , iam still intelligent , i will make money and i will show it here.
People say too much without researching, iam now in … i will update all the the happenings time to time.
It will be from time to time
so please do read my things. thank you for all who really read me.
Smart people join ponzi schemes too!
Ask Bernie Madoff!
@NPandey
A Ponzi scheme sees newly invested funds used to pay off existing investors, which is exactly what BeOnPush does.
You invested and now you will look to recruit new investors.
The sun will set and the sun will rise. Herp derp.
Great post. I’m a profesionnal in finance in France and you analyse is 100% true.
AMF (french financial authority) Reminder Published March 12, 2014 (translation sorry):
Platform 100% ponzi. Very careful!
@ OZ,
Iam not recruiting anybody here, iam all alone.. have invested 1k and today is first day of invesment and i will update weekly earnings and say how iam making this company as my fortune.
Do u have patience and see me through times to come, remember all who are telling me a fool, i will tell you all i am a fool for today.
but iwill turn to be a intellingent when i start withdrawing money okay ..
till then please do write things coming on with you and ur life stories.
Like to add i respect everyone the manner they write to me, as i know i will not loose anything but GAIN GAIN GAIN for sure
Time will say.
@NPandey
Getting in Ponzi schemes is foolish, so I’d say you are foolish.
How will withdrawing money make anybody intelligent?
By training his skill to handle auto teller machine?
@NPandey
Whether you steal money from people who join after you is neither here nor there. BeOnPush’s business model makes it a Ponzi scheme.
Patience to wait for new victims to join after you so you can steal from them? No, I don’t.
Again, whether you withdraw funds you’ve stolen from subsequent investors has no bearing on BeOnPush being a Ponzi scheme. It’s business model does, and that places BeOnPush squarely in scam territory.
i want to give them a link …. about high frequency trading in RTB (Ozedit: Paying existing investors with newly invested funds has nothing to do with RTB trading. Offtopic derail attempts removed.)
@ Terrence B , @Oz,@ ksp7653,
i am not making anybody join me, its like simple i get the profits in the shares i make by investing here the money.
well my well wishers, u all have told me not to go in this and it has tickled me to go in , and i know i will prove u wrong,
I have not that good english like u all good people their,,, so i wont be able to answer to ur all question in right manner,I am sorry for that.
Let me clear you one at any cost iam in that is the fact and its no money from my downline, i will not make anyone of them… and i will show the first withddrawals i make okay ,,,, and the amount i made in my bankstatement not the virtual board of my company site…
So you all are here and providing me with different story to help me out, iam very thank full for that.
(Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
Hi Guys, are you living in the real world.
I am a sucessful honest Business mann and coach . If the guy would be such a good investor he would not need you guys. He would play in a different league. Do you not get it.
1) He plays with your Dream getting fast rich. And having a good live for your family.The only one who gets rich is HE and some people around him.
2) If you are lucky enough and you get out before it colpases you might have maid some money. But sleep well my friend this is money others money they lost. If you can live with this- then i am sorry for you. I can’t .
3) About MLM.
The problem i see is….
a) often the product is over priced to pay others out and you get similar products much cheaper.
b) The people get so greedy buy getting all this posses from the company ,that why they mainly focus on getting fast people on board to make money with them and forget all about the product.
c) The companies play with your dream and pump you up to succeed – what ever the cost…
d) main winner – Guys on the top.
So guys the best way to get rich is, connect with your gifts and creativity, do what you Love . And work hard. And change the world in a good way.
Please get real.
If you were intelligent enough to read up on all the failed ponzi schemes posted here you would have learned to avoid them at all costs.
Seeing as you posted a link here – you have shown yet another sign of not being so smart.
You have nothing to prove here – most ponzi schemes pay for a time – yet long term they do more damage than good.
Seems you are just making a weak attempt to prove you will get paid a few times.
This does not prove that it is legal or a good thing to join.
Many more will lose money than will be getting paid.
You can’t just think about yourself and your earnings.
Where do you think your profits come from in the first place?
Sooner or later it will come to a crawl from no one spending.
Don’t waste your time or anyone else here time by posting proof you got paid.
You were told it was a ponzi and why. IF you refuse to see that then you will have to learn that the hard way.
We don’t need your referral link posted here no one plans to join from your ponzi link.
What are you talking about? It’s a Ponzi scheme chief, you steal funds from subsequent investors. There’s no sugar-coating it.
I can read the headlines saying, “International Ponzie Busters Join Ponzie!”
Ah, the “juicy steak” argument. Don’t ask if it’s real or not, if it tastes good it’s fine (REF: The Matrix, Cipher)
But there are two questions you are not asking:
1) Is the company authorized to market this investment opportunity in your jurisdiction? Financial investments are closely regulated.
2) How are they making the extra money they are paying everybody with? Real investment places have traders making money on real markets.
1) It’s not yours until it’s in your bank account or in your pocket, not some webpage that says “you have this much”
2) Even then, if you don’t care about *where* did the money come from, there are much more lucrative opportunities than this, albeit there are risks involved. But then, you don’t even know the risk profile of this venture, do you?
Good idea. Would hate to have your friends and family coming after you if this thing fails, either crying “we trusted you!” or enraged.
PONZI IS JUST ONE PART OF OUR BUSINESS WORLD WHERE UNINFORMED LAZY US GOES FOR BUSSINESS.
Well all here so the update of the first week, i have made just $65 and its going good so well informed please frens here.
Well who is benefitting is not the important. important is that how the business making me what i am thinking about, I know i have not that good words for all here , point is how i am making money even when iam writing these words.
Its not that iam intellingent or not, as said u can take a horse to the water but u cant make it to drink it. So was good start for me.
FTFY.
Exactly, the how is what matters, not whether or not you’re successful at stealing funds.
The how sees you scamming people who joined after you in a Ponzi scheme. This is nothing to be proud of.
Amazing, You dismiss this business model yet advertise, stock, Forex trading platforms, seems to me this is not a credible review.
You say you guarantee that 150% cannot be met but what is your guarantee? Based on what? Another blogger looking for website hits with inaccurate information… this gets really tiring to research legitimate companies…
I just wish these reviews were done by qualified people who know the market. You don’t even know what the bidding for ads market involves.
Ahhh I said enough. This review is just hype and Sh ite.
Who’s dismissing it? Investors pumping $20 to $10,000 on the promise of advertised ROIs paid out of newly invested funds is a Ponzi scheme.
There’s a difference between calling out financial fraud and dismissal.
In the history of Earth, no investment has returned anywhere near 150% legitimately in the daily time-frame BeOnPush are advertising.
Because it doesn’t matter. If BeOnPush actually had anything to do with advertising, affiliates wouldn’t have to invest up to $10,000.
BeOnPush use that $10,000 to pay off existing investors, that’s all that’s happening here. The only people who don’t see that are investors in denial (same old Ponzi story).
i will like to ask the admin to tell readers on his website which programs people must join to make extra income. its good to expose scams but exposing alone does not solve our problems.
i am certain there good programs out there, so pleas do help us by telling us the good ones or else we get rather confused by leaving us halfway.
That’s not what BehindMLM is about. Your due diligence is up to you, we’re not here to make personally tailored recommendations.
I am not an investor, but I can feel that OZ has so much bitterness with such way of earning money.
I agree ponzi is like stealing money from other people, but the problem is we’re not even sure if it’s ponzi. OZ just claimed it is ponzi scheme lol.
And one more thing, something was brought up about why would beonpush need your money if they could generate such income daily. I guess you guys should search the meaning of the word “bidding” to understand why we need money. You might be thinking why doesn’t beonpush ask a friend in real life to invest for him/her.
Why make it online? Well another research you need guys, search meaning of Real time bidding online.
May be you’ll understand why. I am not an investor, I am saying this out of logic and fairness.
I’m just going to leave that there to sink in. Honestly, we get some of the most dumbass Ponzi cheerleaders posting here sometimes…
Nah, still a Ponzi scheme. “Bidding” has nothing to do with using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Nah, still a Ponzi scheme. “Real time bidding” has nothing to do with using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Hahaha,why do you keep on saying “to pay off existing investors” when you don’t have proof?
It is ponzi when they use new investors’ money to pay the old investors, that’s correct. But then, you’re the one saying it’s ponzi, and you’re the one saying they use newly invested funds to payoff existing investors.
Dude get your head up, everything came from you.. It’s ponzi because you say they use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. And then, they use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors, that’s why it’s ponzi LOL!!!
Everything came from you.. it really will be ponzi if u say they use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.. and they will really be using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors because it’s ponzi.. EVERYTHING CAME FROM YOU, YOU ARE JUSTIFYING YOUR OWN CLAIM LOL..
Stop claiming its ponzi and give me one proof they are using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors and then I’ll reconsider turning down my friend’s offer of referral..
Thank you.. pls be open minded, you are so biased.. bop might really be a scam, but everybody can feel your huge bitterness in this matter hahaha.
Poor guy.. may be you were scared before hahaha.. good for u coz you’re an idiot and a close minded person.. u don’t accept others’ opinion coz u only believe in what u think is right even if it’s wrong..
I pity u bro/sis.. live your life another way. You’re not a critic. Stop acting like you’re such a professional business man.. Stop posting or blogging coz it doest fit a close minded person like you..
So do you have proof that have OTHER income other than member dues?
What are you talking about? It’s right there in BeOnPush’s business model.
BeOnPush solicits thousands of dollars in investment from affiliates, and uses that to pay off existing investors.
It’s not rocket science where the ROI funds come from. Once again, the only people in denial are BeOnPush investors.
But yeah, hope against hope this isn’t a Ponzi when the obvious truth is staring you in the face. Good luck with that.
Just to be clear, i completely get the whole Ponzi thing and how they make money etc…. but if you were to put money in whats the lifeline on these things?
i heard about this from a friend of mine who has been suckered into loads of them … Trafficmonsoon was another he mentioned that i didnt bother going in for. but he has made some money doing it (albeit not a huge amount)
but i am now just thinking selfishly, if i did plough money in, how long till i stopped getting a return (whether that return is gained rightly or wrongly…) – or am i simply asking about how long bits of string are??
Online Ponzis schemes usually crash in about two years. There are of course exceptions.
Ultimately a Ponzi scheme crashes when new investment dries up. Which yes, is a bit like asking how long is a bit of string.
Ponzi or not, the new ‘investors’ are lining up to throw their money away.
Many of the big leaders with hundreds of followers under them are doing a mass exodus from the dying Ponzi scheme Traffic Monsoon. And guess what they are pimping to their loyal devotees now?
Beonpush.
It’s been going 3 years! No daily tasks required! Even a child could make money!
So, if you are a career Ponzi opportunist, beonpush is the next big thing to get in and get out with some easy money.
Not saying if that’s right or wrong, but beonpush popularity is rising and there’s s whole lot of money being dumped into it right now.
There was a program sometime back with similar claims called Briscofunds – that lasted 6 months before it disappeared with everyones money. It was registered in the UK with a bought address.
The full details of Beonpush are here:
companydb.uk/09714406-beonpush-ltd#.VtWRScfa6ek
With Ferki registered at a Macedonian address.
To mention the word “investment” in any marketing material available to UK residents the organisation has to be registered with the FSA:
register.fca.org.uk
…and display their registration number on all their marketing materials (including websites). Nothing relating to any name related to Beonpush is registered at the FSA and as they are not displaying a registration number the FSA have confirmed by telephone that the Beonpush website is operating illegally in relation to offering services in the UK.
All this is very similar to Briscofunds… so time will tell when the site disappears in June 2016.
… well that is unless they get registered with the FSA and publish their registration number that is…
The question remains to be seen as to whether it is a ponzi or not.
Surely if it were illegal to mention investments then will the FSA not take action against false claims.
(OZedit: Spam removed)
is many here involved and what is experience
@James
The business model is known, so why does the Ponzi question “remain”?
That’s the old “if we were illegal they’d had shut us down” argument. Ponzi regulation, particularly in the EU lags. This is no secret.
beonpush is widely talked about on the internet .would there not be already an agency checking it out by now if it is a legit business or not.
who wants to set up a group to find out if it is a scam or not. we can visit them, maybe bring a an expert in. or ask a journalist to do a story about it.
As I understand it it’s only recently promotion has ramped up, following the relative collapse of a few ad-credit schemes.
Either way, that’s the “if it was illegal authorities would have shut it down” argument. Doesn’t hold water as it’s the business model that determines legitimacy.
None of that addresses what’s right in front of you, BeOnPush’s business model. All you need to do is follow the funds, and it’s pretty obvious thousands of dollars in newly invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Thanks for all your comments. I got here while researching the Beonpush company and decided not to trust them.
It is not about RTB; it is about recruitment and the structure (MLM). I will stay away from this venture.
Cheers all!
the so called beonpush headquarter/office in dubai turns out to be just a PO box number, according to taratalks:
the UK and luxemborg offices of beonpush are also PO box numbers.
like all ponzi/pyramid schemes the initial excitement is high, with recruitment racking up alexa ratings.
within a few months of launch, beonpush alexa ratings have plateaued already, with a slight down slide. with 150% returns promised, beonpush will crumble fast with recruitment slowing down.
alexa.com/siteinfo/beonpush.com
@ anjali say me one thing who is this Tara talks … pls tell me about this person… if u dont know then ask me. I have some fans here as promised i come here to say about my earnings in Beonpush.
Made raise in my earnings … still money coming..
Pls dont use people who are Sued okay for saying other as scam or sponzi …. to good info Tara talks is being sued and here articles or blog has being completely shut down …. when tara talks looses the case then i will let you all know here.
So please without proof dont blame any company, as and when the company will or take actions.
thank you very much.
Attempt to deflect attention from BeOnPush’s business model: check.
Boasting about ripping off victims: check.
Chief, BeOnPush’s business model makes it a Ponzi scheme. You’re paid with newly invested funds…
“The company” is not going to anything, lest they have to explain to a judge their Ponzi business model in court.
OZ I would like to introduce you to a new social platform and it’s affiliate program. Can you email me?
Gary
Thanks, You can call the owner here in the US and talk. the company is a US company 100% legal.
@Gary If you want to request a review, contact button is on the top right of every BehindMLM webpage.
court and case number please.
As a man with over 18 of web development an internet marketing experience, plus countless hours of researching and studying MLM, I would like to “chime in” for a moment.
I have heard of BeOnPush for a few months now, but I’ve only started examining their website today. As far as people on Earth using false identities is concerned; how many people really believe that the presidents real (Ozedit: Completelly and utterly offtopic derail attempts removed)
Now, as far as you jumping the gun to call this a “Ponzi Scheme”, here’s how you’re very very wrong.
People who are seriously uneducated by today’s sophisticated business models claim that all Multi-tiered Affiliate marketing and MLM are “Pyramids, or Ponzi Schemes”.
The definition of a “Ponzi” is when a company uses money from new investors to pay the dividends to older investors.
BeOnPush, and all other ad rev-shares are not “Investments”. Customers are not “buying shares” to a share of a certain company or commodity, but rather they are customers (mainly marketers) that are “buying” advertisement packages, and because we are talking about “digital advertisement (no ink and paper to buy, no film or broadcasting equipment and crews to rent)” we are talking about “ad-packs/packages” that carry very little overhead, so the companies can afford to “share” profits from their revenues, and unlike “Ponzi’s” they’ll never collapse as long as marketers have a demand to buy their products.
Like the telephone, the internet is here to stay. The telephone change business by the way of telemarketing, and the internet has transformed business by the way of internet marketing, so there is no argument to prove that “ad-pack rev share” should collapse like “pyramid or ponzi schemes”.
This is not likely and to understand the reason let’s use “Traffic Monsoon” as a prime example. So-called “watchdogs” were saying they were going to take the money and “split”, but when is it going to happen?
It hasn’t and that’s because members agree to withhold about 40% of their rev-share profits to repurchase more ad packs and this leads to the long “sustainability” of the ad rev-share business model, but most important is the reason why customers do this this in the first place; that reason is because “THEY” understand the business model, and “THEY” are making decent money!
Now, why has PayPal and you so-called watchdogs been legally cleared to slander and attack so many honest businessmen and companies without a shred of evidence or even “probable cause” is a topic that I would like to have discussed.
This is the total ignorance behind your bogus “expert” opinion:
“They’re ALL ‘Ponzi Schemes’ because the only reason they are able to continue paying revenues is because people keep buying those damn ad-packs!”
OR
Hey Google is (Ozedit: not an MLM company. Derail attempts removed.)
In MLM (or any legitimate business for that matter), there is no justification for the use of false names.
It’s fraud, and goes hand in hand with the running of a Ponzi scheme.
Purchasing advertising packages doesn’t pay a ROI, investments do.
You aren’t seriously going to contend the oldest pseudo-compliance bullshit in the book are you?
AdSurfDaily tried that years ago. It didn’t work and their founder is now in jail.
BeOnPush use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. That makes it a Ponzi scheme.
You mean in 18 years you have no seen the dozens of ad-pack ponzi schemes come and go over the years?
You sound just like an owner that wants to justify his own agenda in his own scheme. You put up all the excuses – yet the poof is non of these ad-pack schemes are sustainable.
Unlike a real business providing a service – you don’t expect to be paid by the phone company for paying your bill.
This is where these schemes go off the rails each time.
You better go look up “Ad Surf Daily” case then, since you clearly did NOT study past case laws before sharing your… “uneducated” opinion.
It has been fun reading the comments from the promoters of this Ponzi. I have to admit they have actually have come up with some new wrinkles in defending their Ponzi de Jour.
On March 16, the IAB, Internet Advertising Bureau, UK, held their Real Time Marketing Conference in London. Representatives from companies that actually trade in the RTB marketplace were there. Wanna guess who was missing? Yep, you guessed it Ferki Demirovski, or anyone representing BeonPush. Rather odd since this is one of the premier events for the RTB community.
Along other lines, BeonPush says they have traders in London, but conveniently do not mention who they are, where they are located, and of course no registration with the regulatory agency in the UK governing traders.
Inquiries to Ferki Demirovski about other discrepancies between what is said, information on their website have gone unanswered. Now why would he be ducking answering simple, legitimate questions if BeonPush is real as claimed?
I give this six months ops before the wheels come off the bus. The people behind this have no clue about the RTB marketplace and neither do any of the people joining. It is all smoke and mirrors. As the old saying goes: “A fool and his money are soon parted.” It certainly applies to anyone joining BeonPuah.
But BeonPush legal and real? Not in a million years.
You should do better researches before publishing…
What do you think why his address is from Brussels, Belgium ?
He is member of the european parliament, and latest since yesterday (bomb terror) all people should know that the european parliament is located in Brussels.
Why do he need money from Investors ?
All companies need money and this is just one way for Beonpush to let the companies capital grow.
Watch the introducing video. They explain why a company needs money. It is because they can buy larger charges and larger charges are in relation more cheap and the company earnings are bigger…. That is how business works.
So, before posting something like that, do your researches and try to understand marketing..
Right, because anyone who lives in Brussels, Belgium is a member of European parliament. No worries.
Perhaps, but they don’t source investment from new investors to pay off existing investors.
Paying out Ponzi ROIs is not capital growth, is an ever-expanding liability that will eventually see the company collapse.
The BS marketing videos Ponzi schemes put out tend to make a lot less sense when you lay off the koolaid chief.
done. see above review.
Two problems.
1) Espace Leopold in Brussels Belgium is a SECONDARY location for the European Parliament. Primary location is Louise Weiss in Strasbourg France.
2) The names of European Parliament members are easily found online at europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/full-list.html It does not have anybody named Ferki.
Kinda do your own research before repeating nonsense relayed to you and accuse others of doing no research.
@OZ
I am still wondering why people are still dumb enough to think that Beonpush is not a scam, just by looking at their unknown money exchanger (Payza and Payeer), you can tell it’s a fraud.
Since when a money exchanger company hasn’t got a phone number. Moreover what they are actually doing is exactly what you said, they are using the money of the “investors” to pay the other investors. This exactly the Madoff scam Idea.
Finally that @Jerome guy is probably part of the scam, since he is doing videos to promote the scam: vimeo.com/user48839460
This is ridiculous and has to stop NOW!!
Hey guys,
Look what I just found from a german website
A woman made a screenshot from the website beonpush.com on 17th february 2016.
Beonpush copied the terms and conditions from the well known fraud AdBrook and forgot to change one time Adbrook into Beonpush. LOOOL 😀
fs5.directupload.net/images/160227/goav34b6.jpg
We must do something.. We must warn the government. In Gemrany we had in 2015 a ponzi fraud with 23 million euro taken from investors and never payed back.
Hey guys,
Look what I just found from a german website
A woman made a screenshot from the website beonpush.com on 17th february 2016.
Beonpush copied the terms and conditions from the well known fraud AdBrook and forgot to change one time Adbrook into Beonpush. LOOOL 😀
fs5.directupload.net/images/160227/goav34b6.jpg
We must do something.. We must warn the government. In Gemrany we had in 2015 a ponzi fraud with 23 million euro taken from investors and never payed back.
So hi.. everyone ..iam still here earning in beonpush…. my $20 invesment has paid to out till now $11.75 .. going good .. having in account till now .. will withdraw when i get $30 in myaccount…
Iam simply testing it and Nothing else iam doing.. Well when iam successfull here to get this money i will show my account pic here too…
idont come under any pressure …investing small amount is okay to give a try …
I am aware of what are sponzi and scam… i dont want to prove this is scam and that is not … iam just to prove myself what iam happy with challenge.
Ihave challenged myself to prove that Beonpush is good place to make money. I had done this before in year 2015 in Feb When taratalks said about My advertising pays is scam…
What is the endeffect TARA TALKS IS SUED IN USA NOW and all her blog have being forced to come down.. and what i got from this challenge… iam earning from My advertising pays monthly around 4.5k…
That is what i have won. Similar manner i will win again.
Say alll my friends against BEONPUSH that will make me more stronger to believe in it .. find out more about negative points … that makes me more to grow.
iam experienced and well known to win the challenge. Wait all my good friends who can write against Beonpush write it…
iam back after a month here to write on my progress till then happy SPRING TIME … IAM LOVING MY TIME WITH MY FAMILY AND my success.
bye friends
Case number please.
And for the love of god spend some of that stolen Ponzi money on a grammar lesson or two.
REALLY ????
It sure looks like the Tara Talks blog is still up to me.
Perhaps you’d like to give us some proof.
You know, like case numbers, screen grabs of an empty webpage – stuff like that
Oh, and one other thing.
That $4500 a month, is that the amount in your back office or the amount you withdraw to your bank ???
@NPandey-
Tara Talks is going strong. I just came from there. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, then shut up.
@NPandey-
Here, go look.
taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/2016/03/beonpush
You will need to look on the right for beonpush scam…it’s there.
You are happy of being a knowing participant in a Ponzi scheme and a scam. That makes you a co-conspirator.
So you want to prove you can withdraw from a scam?
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
I have to wonder who us being challenged here.
I get it, you missed posting this on April 1. But it is still is a great April Fools day joke. Thanks for sharing and giving us all a great laugh.
Mike Deese and his crack legal team are still trying to figure out just where TaraTalks is, a requirement for any suit to be filed. But Deese and MAP suing anybody is also a great April Fools day joke. Two thumbs up for a great belly laugh!
Guys … i am using beonpush from three months invested $200. Got till now $210 back from direct and commission income.
My money back into my pocket. Rest is bonus everyday coming into my pack… I did it and make it ….u guys just scratch ur back …
Fixed that for you. Something to be real proud about.
is there a way to post some screenshots in here? i got some nice evidence about his beonpush scam.
You can upload images to a hosting website and then post a link to the image here.
Scamy, upload it here and post the link postimage.org
Thanks OZ & Doggy81 for your reply… I will keep my info offline for now.. The collapse will come anyway.
If my source is right — > thats it for beonpush. Last nail has been put in the coffin. GAME OVER.
What are these last nails ?
Doggy81 ..I may post a full report in the near future ..not now. not taking any risk.
Sounds great.
@jerome
Been reading this site since last year. I hear everyone on this site, but I always look at the positive side of things. I tried it, I bought a pak for 20 and 100. I watched everyday as I kept receiving more and more.
I then bought 1000 pak. Waited as my account accrued 18 dollars daily. After the 8 weeks i withdrew the profit of 512.34 and kept the 1000 inside for another pak purchase, same thing happen again, 504.78 dollars profit, I wired it out and now the 1000 is pure profit since I got my money back and wired back to payza.
I am amazed Jerome at this. Now I am planning to with no risk at all, to keep removing profits for as long as I can… if it sinks one day, I won’t care.. I love this!!
Remember do not ever be angry at others, do what you feel is a good move and know the risks, so far this is great. Thank you for being to forward and truthful, at the end of the day, everything is a scam and or ponzi scheme.. I don’t care if they call it legal or not, just words. Whatever works works period.
Spoken like a true scammer. Props however for owning your dishonesty at the expense of others.
Likewise my friend. Props right back at you ozzie!
I am just shocked at the number of ppl doubting this review, my suggestion to the ppl who think they’re onto the deal of the century, read the comments on Zeek rewards.
First are the doubters of the review then the cheerleaders then the angry insults and finally the crying. (I’m sure I’m missing a few steps, that’s K.Chang’s expertise).
Do yourself a favor and read the Zeek review comments, and you’ll find the comments there are the same as the ones being posted here. At the very least you can research some of the pro-ponzi arguments an try to put your twist on them.
I love hearing OZ call b.s. on this ponzi nonsense.
Kent you definitely need to read up, “everything is a ponzi” line has been over used, can I suggest using social security, or the US government as a lame assed comparison to your Ponzi scheme next time.
Indoctrinated people blinded by the system would be shocked by this, this is understandable. So just stay in a a state of shock Polar, you are obviously to slow and scared, and that is fine too.
BTW nobody said this was the deal of the century other then you! Just a good way to make a few extra bucks, and there is nothing wrong with that.
No insults and anger allowed from anyone on either side..
There’s some more of those Ponzi cliches Polar was talking about.
Okay, have it your way. Makes no difference to me. 🙂
Yet, here you are rationalizing and justifying your participation in a deliberately fraudulent illegal and immoral scheme.
Hypocritical, much ???
I’m not rationalizing or justifying anything. There is nothing illegal about anything that I and so many are doing (it is called investing)!
That is you rationalizing much.. and to even mention immoral makes me want to LOL!
Since you asked, I will now answer your last question,,, yes you are very hypocritical! 🙂
Does not really bother me, just funny littleroundman, because it is always the ones who use words like you do, that are the biggest fraudsters.
Cut the crap, Ponzi schemes are illegal the world over.
Oh-bloody-dear
lol. if it didn’t, you wouldn’t be here.
so how does RTB actually work? When they say bidding are they/we bidding for position? I’ve seen it as an option (I think) with Google Adwords?
AND I’m sure it has no relation to the Forex market as mentioned above….
I’m not on here to get in to a pissing match or a back and forth name calling war. This will be my first and last post on this subject.
I’m also not on here to say that BeonPush is or isn’t a scam. This is just a viewpoint of posibility of how BeonPush may be able to pay the ROI they claim.
OK OZ as hard as this may be for you to do please open your mind to all posibilities. What if BeonPush takes the money they get from the packs people buy to buy advertising spots on the internet and that the more spots they buy at a time the cheaper they can get those spots.
They leverage the money they get from pack purchases to buy more spots in ever increasing numbers at lower and lower prices because of volume.
Now let’s just say they are able to always auction these spots they have purchased, for at least double what they bought them for. Now we are also going to assume there is an unlimited number of spots to buy and unlimited demand for these spots.
If BeonPush is constantly earning 200% on the sale of advertising spots then they should be able to pay the 150% ROI. Now using this explanation and only this explanation would you admit that the ROI they promise IS possible.
@aarees50
Then they wouldn’t need to solicit thousands of dollars in investment from affiliates. They’d get a small loan for $10,000 from a bank and over time scale up their investment to make bajillions.
That’s a lot of assumption, without any proof. And 200% ROI on bought advertising with an infinite source of sucker buyers willing to pay a 200% grossly inflated price?
Please.
The bottom-line: The advertising world isn’t full of idiots and quite obviously doesn’t pay the ROIs BeOnPush provide.
You’re talking about a multi-billion dollar industry in which BeOnPush isn’t even a blip on the radar.
Look, no doubt a fraction of a percentage of newly invested funds is put into advertising.
This is so BeOnPush investors can run around the internet going “SEE, advertising!” But let’s cut the crap, for a $10,000 a pop Ponzi scheme offering 150% ROIs, they’re obviously shuffling the majority of newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
The only condition anyone should even consider BeOnPush are providing ROIs through advertising is if they submit to a public audit and/or register themselves with the SEC and provide detailed financials showing so.
We both know that’s not going to happen though, because Ponzi.
There is an audit report from PWC
That shows dollar for dollar every ROI paid out funded by advertising?
Yeah, right. Pull the other one.
Hello people, well I will give my personal opinion.
Beonpuh does not seem to be legit at all, you put money on it and it grows thanks to the real time bidding?? What is that? As you said: why would they need poor soul’s money to do that?
And also you are dealing with money, so why don’t you even have a trusted server certificate? Or maybe a strong protocol version or cipher suite? not, you just put your user name, password and you are in…
There are many things that don’t fit to me but anyway on February 24th I put $50 on it and on April 8th I got $20 which I reinvested, now I just checked it and I have $1.24.
I have no intentions of withdraw that money, I just want to see how it turns out, I will keep you guys in touch.
It is an audit report from Price Waterhouse Cooper…so you will have to ask them.
Dubai operates under Shariah Law so any business there has to comply to Islamic principles. One of the pillars of Islamic business is transparency which means every dollar earned has to be verified, it cannot come from an unknown source and Interest is a strict No-No so what comes out as payouts have to come from ACTUAL earnings and has to be verifiable.
As BeOnPush is operating out of Dubai under Shariah, it cannot be a ponzi… period.
@ Beonpusher…
Well, nice. But there is no official Beonpush registred in Dubai. For more informations just ask dubaichamber.com
There is no company called Beonpush in Dubai. I checked this 2 weeks ago.
You dont need to have a registred company in Dubai to rent a office… it cossts you 150 € to rent a virtual office in Dubai. eoffice.net/en/dubai-media-city-virtual-office-premium.html
lmao! by all means….post it.
Haha yes the max business loan they could pay is 8% but they are soooo good at advertising that they are happy to pay 150% returns AND manage thousands of these small loans as well.
Does this make sense to you?
Wow, and we’re often called negative, lol.
Nice way to try and rationalize criminal behavior. Might as well go club some little old ladies over the head and steal their retirement funds while your at it.
Oh wait, it’s much easier and more civilized to smooth talk people out of their money or let others do it for you in order to earn a profit.
@beonpusher
No I don’t. You mentioned the report. As far as I’m concerned the audit claim is bullshit until proven otherwise.
Right. That’s some pretty dumbass logic fail right there.
Shariah has nothing to do with BeOnPush being a Ponzi scheme or not, BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because of it uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Does the stock market (Ozedit: Offtopic waffle removed)
If you wish to discuss the stock market, doubler scams you stole money in, oil and “the banks”, do it elsewhere.
They have nothing to do with BeOnPush using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors and being a Ponzi scheme.
How do banks charge interest then in the UAE ?
All of the usual suspects (Ponzi Pimps) are participating: Ari Maccabi, Ian Michael Bigg, Rob Fraser, etc.
You claimed it exists, it’s up to YOU to prove it exists. Else, you are just full of hot air. Are you?
Then this scam can’t possibly exist, yet it did:
NOLINK://www.thenational.ae/uae/investors-warned-over-double-your-cash-scams-in-dubai
Got any more uninformed opinions you care to share?
Just because you do not understand it does not mean it does not exist…what it does mean very clearly is that you do not have the capacity to understand it.
Shariah compliance means no shuffling around of money…profits have to be earned before it can be distributed.
islamic-banking.com/prohibition_of_interest.aspx
Given that Ponzi schemes are already illegal, it’s a safe bet BeOnPush doesn’t give two shits about adhering to Sharia law.
No, it just means you can’t explain it properly, so you decided to use condescending language, which suggests you don’t understand it either.
Nope, Shariah compliance means a lot more than that. Better look up the terms “gharar” and “riba”.
In any case, there’s no proof that BeOnPush is Shariah-compliant other than they supposedly have an office in Dubai. Assumption is unwarranted.
Onecoin has/had an office in Dubai also…. I suppose that means they are legit now as well…
Beonpush is 100% legit, don’t know what you guys have been talking about ever since, there is risk in all business.
What a compelling argument. You totally negated the fact that BeOnPush use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
And what does risk have to do with anything?
How do you know that newly invested funds are used to pay off investors??… It is just an assumption on your part.
In any case, BeOnPush is halal certified… that means it is Shariah compliant.
Shariah compliant means that every dollar paid out must not be an interest element, it has to have been earned, verified and accounted for.
It does not matter even if new investors money are used to pay off investors…money is fungible !!…as long as investors are not paid in the form of interest but from ACTUAL earnings from business activities, if it is not then it will no longer be Halal and thus not Shariah compliant…
As long as it is Shariah compliant and Halal it is not and can never be a ponzi.
Because newly invested funds are the only verifiable revenue source of funds going into BeOnPush.
Ergo newly invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Nevermind the fact that advertising and 150% ROIs are… do we really need to have this conversation.
Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors is all that’s relevant here. The assertion that BeOnPush operate from Dubai and therefore cannot be a Ponzi scheme is a joke.
I’m going to start marking comments waffling on about shariah law as offtopic.
Halal Certified ? Are you eating beonpush ?
Halal and Haram do not just refer to food. Ignorance reigns.
As proven by every one of your posts trying to legitimize a scam so you can get your money back.
IT refers also to foods, cosmetic , lotions, vitamins basically items applied into or on the body etc. Although I have not ever seen it referred to Advertising etc..
Please feel free to show me other companies. nolink:ifanca.org/pages/certified-products.aspx T
he reason for this is because of the supposed cleanliness of the product based off the religious believe. I would have to say though via all the reading on here I have not seen anything that would disprove that the company is not a ponzi.
If it using other peoples payments to pay off previously registered members then it is a ponzi and any certificate from any law would not change that fact.
Ha ha … I don’t need to get my money back. I happen to own it.
So a one year deal has been done with Lufthansa, I’m confident they will do Due Diligence.
According to who, BeOnPush or Lufthansa?
beonpusher: So you own it do you. Well Ferki, great because then you can answer these questions I have:
On which major exchange do you have a board seat (Rubicon, Appnesus, etc.)? Which service does BeonPushhe have advertiser (Xaxis, Accuen, Amnet etc.) demand from?
On March 16, the IAB, Internet Advertising Bureau, UK, held their Real Time Marketing Conference in London. Representatives from companies that actually trade in the RTB marketplace were there. So why weren’t you there, or at least have a representative there?
Why are the names of the traders and their registration numbers missing from the Home Page? Ferki, you did say that you have traders in London, and this is a requirement to trade by the UK Financial Services Agency.
Funny that your company said their headquarters were in London, BeonPush was not registered with Companies House as required by law. As soon as this was made public almost immediately the headquarters moved to Dubai, where you still are not registered as a business. Please explain why the sudden move?
But please answer all my questions instead of ducking them like you have for the past 3 weeks when asked. Yep a real business here my assets.
What is your user id ?
^^ Offtopic. If you’re not going to answer Lynndel’s questions – just say so.
Not surprised…
beonpusher: Why would I need an user ID for you to answer my questions?
You are running a program that is open to the public and no user id should be required to answer simple basic questions that should take a whole two minutes to answer. That is of course predicated upon you can answer the questions. By not doing so proves you can’t.
Sucks doesn’t it when you got called out and can’t respond for all to see. But prove me wrong and answer them.
Probably so they enforce some sort of non-disclosure buried in the membership fine print, and if any of the exchange is made public, they’ll claim they changed it, and revoke that member’s membership for violating AUP.
If you are not a partner you are not entitled to any answers
And there you have it folks, confirmation BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme.
Yes it is a ponzi scheme… please run for the hills.
So you have to join to learn about the scheme.
Are you aware that “non-disclosure” can make a contract unenforceable, which renders membership agreement null and avoid?
Are you authorized by corporate to make such a decision? Or are you just trolling us here?
No need to run for the hills, but will run to the authorities.
But seriously, this is the best you can do? Do you really think people are that stupid to believe you? Not one question is requesting confidential information.
By the way, just because you have your headquarters in Dubai does not mean you are subject to Sharia Law. In your case, you should be thankful because in Sharia Law when you steal they cut off your hands.
@beonpusher- Stupidity never wins.
@Beonpusher/Ferki, I have asked you over and over again to simply clarify what your company does in RTB and you have been UNABLE to do that.
Let me explain as clearly as I can why there is overwhelming evidence that BOP is a ponzi:
In RTB, 100% of the money for the ad space comes from the client, and the RTB trader buys that media on the exchanges for cheaper than they are being paid for it (on any metric). Someone could give me $1million but without an advertiser, there is no space to buy with that – make sense?
You could shut Lyndell, Oz, and everyone else up with just couple of sentences saying which tech you use, or which exchanges you use – I happen to be friendly with seniors at all of the major RTB tech business and could easily verify what you say.
I promise you, that I would be your biggest affiliate and would put $50k in tomorrow and recruit everyone I know if you could simply verify something that is in no way a business secret. I would also be able to put north of $100k worth of advertiser spend a month with you if you could provide some credible answers.
I expect you to ignore this comment as you have done my emails. If you were a credible CEO running a legitimate business you would answer this now and put to bed this scurrilous opinions.
Again, I look forward to your response.
Jon:
You can forget beonpusher coming back. He has realized that the vast majority of us who post here are not gullible fools that he preys on, and we aren’t buying his BS.
When confronted with real questions to answer that anyone in the RTB Market could answer immediately, he knows he cannot answer because it would show he has no clue about the RTB marketplace, and BeonPush is a straight up Ponzi and all smoke and mirrors.
He now knows people reading here know it too, so he is to chicken to even try and reply here. Hopefully I am wrong and he will answer you, but since he hasn’t before, there is no way he will do it here.
He can’t answer yours or my questions. In attempting to do so will expose BOP for the Ponzi it is to the masses, and that means this will collapse even faster than it is going to do on its own.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Lets be totally outright here, I get anything from 3500 to 8000 signups a day… even at $20 a piece it is more money a day then you can tease me with… lol… your tiny “north of $100,000” will excite me ???… hahaha.
I will close this very soon, I don’t need much more. I will take the program “Private” and you all should know what that means.
You cannot get in so you cannot lose your money….Simple.
It means you’re about to run out of newly invested funds and we’re going to be hearing from a whole lot of your victims…
Too funny. What CEO turns down over $150K in business income because they won’t answer questions on a public forum? NONE that are not running a Ponzi that is.
Worried about law enforcement shutting you down so thinking if you go private it will save you? You really are more stupid than I gave you credit for. Would you like for me to name all the other Ponzi’s that tried that and it didn’t work?
But going PRIVATE! Now that’s hilarious. But thanks for confirming without a shadow of a doubt BeonPush is a Ponzi for all to see.
… sheeple to fleece, then I’ll retire to an island under an alias, suckers! 😀
Just think, it was just a week or so ago that the BeonPush members were gushing how “real” BeonPush was because they held a meeting in Dubai, they had cell phone covers with the BeonPush logo on them, pens with the BeonPush logo, their cell phone screens showing the BeonPush logo and of course the obligatory hotel signage announcing that BeonPush was holding a meeting in their hotel. So much for proving BeonPush was real, right Ferki?
But you don’t need that much more before you run? Seriously? Just think of how much more you could have stolen if you just kept this going for another couple of months. You are a disgrace to all Ponzi admins everywhere.
Yep… this ponzi will closed down… err.. I mean go private and I will have the next ponzi in… (Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
beonpusher: OK enough of your pretending to be Ferki. Try sending the real Ferki here, that is if he has the gonads to come here and answer the questions. Funny how he also keeps ducking answering simple questions just like you did pretending to be him.
But then it really doesn’t make any difference if it is you or Ferki posting here it doesn’t change the fact this is still a Ponzi.
Thank you, now I m sure beonpush is just a ponzi.
Amazing5 was registered as a company in the UK and look what happened to them! Not even 5 months in they just disappear.
Where is the real time bidding done? Where do bidders go to bid? Can Beonpush show where this is?
If an advertiser wants to use the real time bidding how do they find it? What is the website for the real time bidding?
I want to thank behindmlm.com for this review, which has confirmed my doubts about this beonpush stuff:
It is curious and funny that this beonpusher guy has rejected in many occations the chance to “prove” his business right. This also left me more skeptical.
Having failed in a similar project, I have learned a good lesson and my Number 1 Test question is this:
What legitimate product does your business offer for my money?
beonpush cannot answer this 🙂 and he knows deep within that once there are no more people innocently joining there will no longer be any inbound cash flow, so the scamming must, and will stop.
Letshavecash was a similar example/model: They were offering a nice profit for your money, however, No Products were given…
Until one morning people type letshavecash.com to be redirected to Twitter.com!
I challenge you both, beonpusher, and the other fellow, to prove me wrong on that.
Moreover, a good friend of mine who has invested money in beonpush told me you guys went to Dubai to establish the “business” because the U.S. and Paypal were not willing to trust you. What is your answer to that?
@NPandey this does not compare with MAP. MAP is legitimate business and they have a valuable product for your money (you already know, right). My advice. Don’t spend another penny on this because it is going to crash soon.
Oh dear god no.
MAP is a Ponzi scheme because newly invested funds are used to pay off existing investors. Hate to break it to you but every modern Ponzi scheme has an attached product.
The AdSurfDaily shutdown busted the ad-credit/Ponzi marriage. It doesn’t matter what product or service you attach to a Ponzi scheme.
Dear Oz,
A co-worker is gently pushing this on to me, and after looking into their website several red flags popped up. “What’s the product”, “Why is there such emphasis on recruiting?”, “how come the website looks ‘off’ compared to regular businesses?”
I can’t help noticing many staunch defenders in this thread seem to use the same type of poor English (leaving out words, typical for people with an Eastern European background).
It is also interesting to see how YOU keep repeating simple facts, whereas THEY consistently try to undermine your authority (“You know nothing!” “RTB is genius!”, “Why should we believe you?, We have proof!” “BBC”, etc.)
Thank you for an expert debunk and getting the word out!
No worries Fonz, hope things work out with your co-worker (report him to whoever’s in charge?).
Ok,.. sorry my englisch is not the best! My Question,… look the Police in England after beonpush?
the same like amazing5?
I believe that beonpus is one of the biggest ponzi system… bigger like Onecoin,… and I don’t understand that the Police do nothing,.. it is so clear, that beonpush have no RTB Buisness, only but the money from the new people to pay the money for the provision for the old people…
help that this buisness stopping….
This is bullshit!! I am in Beonpush, and I can attest that you will make money in this, and it is not a Ponzi Scheme. (OZedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Look into this for yourself…..(Ozedit: Attempt to take discussion offsite removed)……
I get paid every day……and I am very happy with the results. May the blogger of this site work for someone else for the rest of his life…..slave. LOL.
Whether you succesfully steal from subsequent investors has no bearing on BeOnPush being a Ponzi scheme.
BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because they use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
That you are “happy” about participating in financial fraud speaks volume about your character.
You can prove the first part, but you have NO proof for the second part.
First part does NOT disprove 2nd part. Every ponzi scheme pay until it collapses or were closed down by authorities.
My money is on he’s far more well off than you to begin with.
Well, it looks like you’ve been in multiple ponzis/pyramids, so please forgive us if we question your expertise.
Getting paid by a ponzi doesn’t make it any less of a ponzi. 😉
Scam fighting does not pay, scam does, so scamfighters *have* to be better off than scammers to start with. 😀
Why is this ponzi still not dead yet?? At 175% returns this cannot last anything more than 2 months… why is it still alive??
What is this? I don’t understand. I make Magistrate Report on Beonpush in London. They tell me it is legal business?? Ponzi is legal?
Doesn’t sound like the right avenue for securities fraud. They might have only checked for a corporate registration, which costs 20 GBP and requires a PO Box.
Ponzi is ponzi is ponzi…
This is a Magistrate… how can he say beonpush is legal.
Their 20 GBP registration might be legal. Doubt the magistrate looked at their business model, that’s generally not how things work.
The Magistrate is not stupid..how come he can say it is not illegal??
It is a ponzi…wtf
Looks like the site is down, could that mean the UK authorities have got him lol?
Great reading. I have a contact on Facebook who keeps posting articles about the latest MLM and HYIP. I can’t work out if he know’s he’s scamming people or not.
I feel he, and the majority of people defending beonpush here are people who are down on their luck who have been truly suckered by a con artist.
Even if you convince yourself that somehow the payments you receive are legit, just stop and think: if you could earn 150% returns on your investment in a day, why would you ask other people for their money?
You don’t need it, your pot will continue to grow. Anything in life that seems too good to be true generally turns out to be that way.
I read Oz’s early posts and I really hoped he would help those people who are looking to or have invested. But alas, it would appear they can not be saved.
Oz is not trying to shatter your dreams and make you look stupid, he is trying to save you from wasting your hard fought money.
Yes… great. Finally the ponzi has been killed and is dead for good.
The site is still online for me. Maybe a temporary glitch or a local blocking?
@Will
Why do you say, that you can earn 150% a day? Thats wrong. It’s 0,5-3,5% earning a day.
In addition, there were published new features in backoffice yesterday. Classic and premium membership. It not seems that the system will collapse soon.
The site is not accessable anymore. The ponzi has run off.
Are you serious? They’re just integrate new updates.
These days, there is a lot work at the page, so it is sometimes slow for a while.. But this has nothing to do with “run off” 😀
Hahaha… they are introducing a cellphone for Africa??…wtf…it is new evidence that it is a ponzi
It will be dead in a week
And it’s STILL stupidly high.
I invested 100 dollars yesterday and I can’t buy packs today, it gives an error , do you think it is the end and I just lost my money ? 🙁
@K. Chang
It’s not the rate of return, just the payout of the package, there is a long distance to reach the break even point.
@Alex
Why should it collapse today? There is just a lot work at the page these days, try it later in some hours.
I came here to read real news/facto and not to follow conspiracy theorists..
Of course there is, that’s how ponzis work.
At .5% per day, the fraudsters have your money for 200 days before you get back your initial deposit.
So, you’ve sent your money off to someone you don’t know, somewhere you’ve never been and trusted he or she won’t disappear before the 200 days are up and that he / she is, in fact, depositing real money in your account.
Recipe for disaster.
@littleroundman
What you say about ponzi schemes is right. But why do you assume that Beonpush is only a ponzi without own earnings? Any proofs?
I prefer to discuss about facts.
The said that when there are enough users, the binary bonus will be cancelled.
Good news,
how about you go away and find a business which can offer between .5% and 3.5% a “DAY” without being a ponzi, a pyramid or a combination of both.
(Oh, in this world, please, not some alternative universe where returns of over 1270% annually are possible)
If you want to believe, fine, go ahead and throw your money at BoP.
But, please don’t expect to be able to come here and spout nonsense about 1200% plus annual returns and expect to go unchallenged
Someone just withdrew 19,000 Euros !!… the ponzi is dead for sure now. They will have no more money to pay out.
Because such rate is impossible with a legitimate business. Do you have any idea what sort of return can be generated if it can generate 0.5% DAILY, if you compounded for 6 months?
Sorry for my mistake DeluXe. But as the others have pointed out, that’s still incredibly high.
I’m no banker or accountant but I know that if I want to invest my money then 3.5% a day is insanely high returns! If I put in $10,000 then I’d be earning $350 a day! If I were to put that back in each day, I would be earning nearly $1,000 a day with $26,000 in there to withdraw!
Don’t you think anyone with with $10,000 in the bank would do this? I could earn $1,000 a day after a month with zero effort. And this would grow and grow, no-one would ever have to work again!
I’m not just saying this because I want to be right. I’m saying it because I believe that you are NOT a con man. I believe you have been tricked by an offer that is too good to be true yet you desperately want it to be true.
The people who sold you this incredible offer know that you will feel this way and so they have surrounded their lie with all the information that you are seeking to confirm to yourself that you are right and the doubters are wrong.
Step back and look at BoP with respects to all the other investment opportunities. Why don’t others offer the same rates?
How can they survive when such great opportunities as BoP exist? Without having to know any of the facts surrounding how BoP make money and how they pay people, surely you can see from this that something isn’t right.
I genuinely hope that anyone reading this who is already caught up in this scam realizes what is happening and gets out. And please, please, please…don’t just search google for the next one!
Is anybody here even serious for 3s ? Does anybody know anything about RTB here?
Ponzi-killer, even by your name you are a troll. I know the people who withdraw 19k and it was mid-April, your information is outdated and guess what Bop is still alive and pay me $250 everyday.
There are 2 sites : benonpush.com and beonpush.pro, the two sites underwent big changes lastly cause Bop is about to release an Android/IOS application for Mobile RTB and a complete mobile phone specially for Africa and India.
There is actually no real RTB leader in Africa mainly cause they use way more Internet mobile, so we are going there with a complete working phone with mobile RTB integration.
I think everybody here is juste a little too much tight-minded (if this word even exist).
2009 straight after the subprimes, was one of the more profitable year for traders all around the world and they made billions OUT OF NOTHING, just speculation!
So, making 150% after 4 months is easy. The fact that making money is hard is something you think cause we are all brainwashed by rich people and society, but believe me, making money is way easier that it seems.
Us here, are on a totally new market which is expanding very very fast.
If this market was possessed by few leaders, making them rich like never and you would see in the news “Ferki Demirovski, ceo of Beonpush is now on the list of richest people on earth”, I’m pretty sure you would say “Yeah, right time, right place, I guess….”.
What is disturbing you here is that anybody can be successful too, me, you, Jerome, anybody.
Peace my friend and never forget making money is easy as hell.
I forgot to say that I have actually 0 affiliates on any of my business. I’m just managing my money.
Right. And you can account dollar for dollar for all funds flowing into BeOnPush and prove ROIs are paid from RTB revenue and not affiliate investment?
No, you can’t.
The fact is advertising does not pay the ROIs BeOnPush are paying out and the only demonstratable source of revenue is affiliate investment.
What’s happening here is not rocket science.
You don’t need to personally recruit people in a Ponzi scheme. So long as someone is doing the recruiting, new funds will continue to flow into the system.
Lets just dupe people in Africa that know nothing about this at all.
It’s so easy to get rich that way.
I am sure the same effort won’t go over so well in USA.
Epic fail.
Here something about Ferki… it sounds not good…:-)
transparency.mk/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=124&Itemid=4
and from the telegraph:
telegraph.co.uk/investing/news/beonpush-the-new-ponzi-scheme-thats-sweeping-facebook/
It’s pretty obvious that there is no RTB at all. This is just good old investment autosurf Ponzi (i.e. Ad Surf Daily) with a fresh coat of paint.
When you throw away all the buzzwords, all that remained is “buy packs” -> “profit”. There is nothing else relevant.
@Gautier. I’m pretty well versed in RTB, having run $million’s of campaigns using various DSP’s and SSP’s.
A good friend of mine was the founder of Admeld (an early SSP) that was sold to Google for $400 million in cash. I know people at Board level at all of the major RTB players (Appnexus, Rubicon Project, Pubmatic, Infectious Media, MediaIQ, BrightRoll, Adap.tv etc).
For Beonpush to be legitimate, they would have to be working with at least one of these tech companies. In addition, they would have to be getting demand, predominantly via the Agency Trading Desks (ATD’s) which is where the overwhelming majority of RTB demand emenates.
BeonPush does not have any form of relationship with any of the RTB pipes/tech. they have no connection to the demand side, and further to that, they have no advertiser/industry facing marketing – don’t you think that’s very strange?
Beonpush describes the way they make money like the stock market i.e. they use affiliates money to buy impressions en masse upfront and therefore buy it cheaper to then sell it to advertisers later at a profit this is a total falsehood.
RTB is performed in real time… Every impression is treated as a single entity due to it’s timing, position, and most importantly, who is viewing it! You simply can’t buy upfront that which is traded in real time.
If I was the CEO of BeonPush and there was so much negativity swirling around my business, I would be quick to come out with backend screenshots of the DSP I’m using showing live campaigns, quotes attributed to both advertisers and tech companies about how great we are to work with, interviews with the relevant industry press (AdExchanger or ExchangeWire). None of this is commercially sensitive and would shut up any naysayers.
BeonPush is a very obvious Ponzi scheme.
Hello everyone, first let me say: beonpush has never paid 150% of revenue, they had just paid 50%, i mean: if you invested $100, after SIX MONTHS (long time) they would give you $150 TOTAL, meaning that they had just paid 50% of your investment.
Also they have made some changes recently, now you dont even get 50%, now it’s just 30%, if you add $100 after 6 months u’ll get $130.
the 150% was just a propaganda to get more people, i mean: if a business gives you 150% of revenue, it should be 150% besides your investment.
Source: i’m a beonpush member.
Opinion about it: yes, even though i’m on it, i think it’s a scam, it will eventually collapse.
Wow, so you think its scam, you know its scam but you earn from the people who are under you in the pyramid. Can you go to police and tell them that please ?
Doggy: that’s a usual way of “a mindset control” of some participants in these scams:
“I am undergoing the same risk as others.” “Nobody forces me and the others to join.”
hehehehehehehehe, who told u i have people under me?
A friend of mine who is crazy about beonpush begged me to join under him and to please the poor fella, i did it.
Doggy i put 50 dollar on February 24th and after 3 months it has not generated my investment yet, i dont even think it will.
So you’re just an accessory to the crime? Would you lend your friend your gun to rob a bank?
I know you were trying to appease your friend. I get that. But seriously folks, we need a change of attitude!
We have got to get to the point where there is accountability to PARTICIPATE in these things. If there was, I think more people would refrain and not feed the beast.
Beonpush has paid $71 million to investors since inception.
This is a very rich ponzi and a very rich scammer…or…..
Says who, your upline?
Cmon man…
I guess you are not in the know…..
If by “in the know” you mean what your upline told you, then no.
Meanwhile back in reality…
The reality is that Ferki has some very strong credentials…mostly from social ngos and United Nations….THAT is the reality.
What are yours??
That thing between my ears does a pretty good job of sussing out whether newly invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Yours meanwhile seems to be making excuses for Ponzi schemes.
You got proof of that that’s NOT from BOP or Ferki himself? Or is it just a bunch of bogus titles he bestowed on himself?
money is not received on payeer!!!! SCAM
I almost fell off my chair laughing of the claim that BeonPush has paid out over $71 Million Dollars. Talk about a whopper.
But just for a moment, let’s assume that is true. Then please explain why Ferki made this update to the members, and I quote:
Interesting isn’t it that this CEO of this great company can’t use proper grammar and punctuation. But at least Ferki did admit that BeonPush is a Ponzi.
There is no way in Hades that he can pay those kind of returns when he himself stated the profit margins were very thin. In short, he is blowing smoke up your skirts claiming he can pay those kind of returns with such thin profit margins.
Now what was this again about BOP paying out over $71 Million Dollars?
Putting aside the investment amount required to pay out $71 million dollars on “thin profit margins”, anytime a suspected Ponzi scheme that operates in English claims they’re targeting China… watch out.
Only one reason to operate there, they can’t sell their business model in the west.
Please explain me why they don’t have any accounting and auditored accounting (obligatory ), and why luxembourg doesn’t recognize beonpush and they say beonpush was never registered (because if they take deposit they have to register themselve)?
Right answer is because it is a scam.
nobody knows something about Ferki in the EU parlament, why???? it is a fake….
BeOnTel smartphone manufacturing contract is finalised in China and going into production.
Will be released soon.
Google Ferki and President of Albania Parliament and you see pictures of his meeting with the President of Albania Parliament.
The Albania Parliament supports ponzi ??….must be I guess.
Only if the Albanian Parliament has invested in BeOnPush.
Your amateur-hour attempts at legitimacy by association otherwise fall flat.
where can i Advertise with Beonpush? show me, please!!!
Goldman Sachs has taken a 20% stake in Beonpush.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Source or permanent spambin.
Right, and Obama is my uncle. 😀
That would be the Fred Goldman-Sachs who owns a deli in East Los Angeles.
@boper
Please bring the proof that goldman sachs invest für 20%….. :-))) you are grazy….
Thank you very much for the sound reasonings Oz. Best regards!
Glad you found the information of use.
RTB?? Real Time Bidding? Where do these companies do this online bidding, if they do it for themselves, then why wold they buy any time from BoP?
What BoP sells to the advertisers? no proof!
and what about this ?
learnhowtoearnfromhome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BeOnPush-Scam-Scandel-revealed-1.jpg
SELF help!
I have been following this site’s advice with regards to Beonpush now for several months and have been convinced by the experts here that this is truly a ponzi and a scam.
I have seen so many people being paid out great amounts of money by beonpush and now just seen another payout in excess of $20,000
This is his 63rd payout and all have been big.
What REALLY is the truth here?
Is this a scam or are we being led to lose BIG TIME ??
As long as new investment rolls in, existing investors will get paid. That’s how a Ponzi scheme works.
Is that not the same way that any other company works??
No. Only Ponzi schemes.
Big impressive event in Paris. Now big event in Brussels…next will be London and New York?? Factory in China. Launching of Beonpush Smartphone.
This does not look like a dying ponzi.
This looks like a flourishing Multi National.
Are ponzis supposed to behave this way??
If you ignore the business model and pay attention to stuff that doesn’t matter, sure.
Recruitment events, claims that have nothing to do with using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors – pretty standard Ponzi behaviour…
Hmmm…are you then saying that recruitment is required to continue to make money on beonpush?
Do you really know what beonpush is about…have you got an account to see what happens internally?
Oh no !!!!
Not the old “Are you then saying” waffle, waffle, waffle pyramid schemers’ nonsense.
You obviously have comprehension problems, so I’ll type this really slowly,
In MULTI LEVEL MARKETING if it is possible to make the majority of any income earned by recruitment and NOT from sales to those not directly involved in the “opportunity” i.e. “retail” customers and / or it is a requirement that members “pay-to-play” then you are in pyramid / endless chain recruitment territory which is both illegal AND more importantly, from a potential members’ point of view, mathematically guaranteed to fail once recruitment slows
Nope.
Sure. Invest money and collect a ROI from newly invested funds. At least that’s what’s in the compensation plan.
Good joke. “International events, conferences, meetings” are the engine and feeders for pyramid and Ponzi scams. Their purpose is obvious:
a) Give a feeling and impression of “legitimacy” to the current members
b) Harvest some new members
What next?
Yes, some do it this way. World GN, Kairos… they use some cheap re-branded phones from China and include this stuff in their “business packages”.
This business model is close to “dropshipping”. You don’t produce and develop anything, but you can buy cheap no-name stuff from Asia, put you brand on it, and sell it with higher margin and ship it with aid of the high level logistic provided by Amazon etc.
A false impression of your “brand” is essential there. Works fine on some specific markets (like MLM enthusiasts and scam promoters). Added value is closed to nil.
Reason why to do that?
a) To legalize business – scammer can shout: “Hey, we have physical products in our packages!” or “We have a factory in China – we are real!”
b) To provide false impression to affiliates they bought something valuable and physical in their packages.
Well, phone for 110 USD in package for 2777 USD (Kairos) is a nice example.
This looks like a flourishing Ponzi.
BTW, how is a branded phone related to RTB?
I’m sick of trying to educate idiots into saving their money. All i get is the same bloody responses.
Wake up morons. You are only getting paid because some other poor sucker has come in and invested some money with the same expectations that another sucker will come and they will get paid.
That is not a business, nor are you an entrepreneur. It’s just plain stealing and throughout the process you are stealing money the people below you are likely to never see again.
If you are happy to take money then that says a lot for your personal ethics and morals. Remember: whatever you are stealing, the owner is stealing 10 or 100 times more than this and laughing at you.
If you make it big and become a top affiliate then be prepared to show up in court to justify your earnings. You could try the Faith Sloan approach and claim ignorance “I never knew i was stealing money. I didn’t know it was a ponzi!”
You can see how well that has worked out for her.
Real marketers actually build something with substance and work their asses off to do it. The difference is you know it will not just disappear within a few months.
People who have no idea and just want to get along by stealing join Revshares/Ponzis.
Which are you? I am pretty disappointed with a friend of mine at the moment because all they do now is promote revshares despite building a reputation in the legitimate advertising industry.
I keep saying to them “you do realize that as each site shuts down your own reputation is being diminished to the point where no one will join you in anything again?”
Maybe one day they will listen. Here’s hoping.
Beonpush will be closing down soon. It will stop taking new members when it reaches it’s goal of 500,000.
This ponzi is going down soon…poof!!! It cannot survive without new members.
Get on Alibaba. If you order 1000 units you can get it for $31 USD each.
NOLINK://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Android-smart-mobile-phone-3Gmanufacturer-hotselling_60498350481.html
There is no BeOnPush factory. Stop dreaming.
jajaja this ponzi is such a joke, just copy/pasting other ponzi terms and conditions without even changing the names.
nitram02.free.fr/bop.png
Bingo! The structure and the levels of BOP’s compensation plan sounds familiar too.
AdBrook’s terms and conditions: goo.gl/6RB0gw
BOP’s terms and conditions: beonpush.com/conditions
Many clauses are the same. BOP is a restart of AdBrook.
Yes it is a restart of Adbrook and making lots of money…great ponzi but don’t join now…you missed the boat…you can only lose money now if you join.
It looks like beonpush has stopped paying.
It is bye bye.
Interview with Ferki, it is spread as a sponsored content on the Facebook: youtube.com/watch?v=NGth1OGtBS0
The interview itself is in english but it is intended for german speaking audience (investment-network.eu/2016/06/03/invenet-zu-besuch-bei-beonpush-interview-mit-ceo-ferki-demirovski/).
@-
It’s not an interview it’s a promo piece from Igor Horst, who is obviously BeOnPush affiliate.
Horst’s website was only created in April, 2016. Other schemes promoted on it include the Ponzi schemes BitClub Network and FutureAdPro.
BeOnPush is right at home there.
Beonpush is going to die soon.
It just paid out more than $120,000.00 to a member. It cannot survive after this already.
It’ll survive for as long as new investors continue to pump money into it.
Trying to second guess when is a waste of time.
OMG…they just paid out $200,000 to one of the leaders. They will disappear after this for sure
they have the $ 200,000 paid to a MIM Leader, or to an investor?
there is a difference, because the MLM only get up to $ 3000 so a day, and an investor most 15,000 $ which he has earned from the $ 10,000?
They gave out “career gifts” to a few leaders from $50,000 to $200,000
This proves it is a pozi scam.
Paying commissions alone doesn’t make an opportunity a Ponzi scheme. Using newly invested funds to pay those commissions does.
Many ponzi schemes are known for handing money out to key players just to keep up the front they are paying out big money.
When the truth is the money really never leaves the system.
Right… so this is a ponzi scam for sure no???
If BeOnPush had anything to do with advertising, they wouldn’t need affiliate funds.
Those ROIs have to come from somewhere, and in the absence of any verifiable revenue source, that leaves newly invested affiliate funds.
So it is definitely a ponzi scam right??..It is a 100% thing no?
YES!!!!!!
Yes!!!
Allow me to combat the admin for one minute please because I don’t quite understand his rant. First, let me say that I am NOT a member of BeonPush, or any other RevShare program; however, I am HOPEFUL that eventually some CEO will get it right and create a fair, legal, sustainable, and profitable way for poor, working class people or “have-nots” to make a living using the internet like all (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Let’s take the admin’s argument against “RTB”. He says “so what if RTB does make profits or it’s doubtful that ‘RTB’ does make profits because Beonpush would NOT need $20 -$10,000 from investors”.
That’s NOT wise or intelligent logic because Google (Ozedit: Google is not an MLM company soliciting up to $10,000 in investment on the promise of an advertised ROI, offtopic derail attempts removed)
Conclusion: If you don’t know what RTB actually is then how can you slander a man’s business and reputation.
RTB could actually be generating millions of dollars in revenues that is actually used to pay members and sustain the program and Beonpush could be using the capital generated from their MLM to develop software, cloud based servers, and advertising campaigns. HOW WOUL “YOU” KNOW?
Many people are relying on the success of Beonpush and they don’t feel too kindly about publishers scaring or turning people away with slander.
Let me ask: could you make these attacks in court and win?
(Just MY two cents, please don’t block, edit or censor any of my words) – Mindsilver
In which case there’d be no reason to solicit investment revenue from affiliates.
Because obvious Ponzi is obvious.
Advertising isn’t some magic money hole, where you deposit $x and get back a fixed 1.5x ROI.
Yup. Ponzi schemes don’t file lawsuits, because all the plaintiff has to do is serve discovery on verifiable revenue sources.
Ponzi scheme either runs or provides documents that demonstrate all the revenue is sourced from affiliate investment.
Judge rules against the Ponzi scheme and they lose.
If BeOnPush are paying ROIs with advertising, what difference does it make?
If BeOnPush are using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors, I can see how pointing out it’s a Ponzi scheme would hurt your ROI.
Oops, you just buttfucked your own bullshit argument. Take care now.
For the 2 that claim that beonpush is a scam. I would like you to answer just 3 questions.
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@mlmpro
Both of those questions (you only posted 2) have nothing to do with BeOnPush using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Don’t need to to realize BOP ain’t that.
The logic is very simple: if it is that profitable, they can go to a bank and ask for a loan, even a short-term one, and save all the commission and revshare and whatnot they are paying out. Why would they need YOUR money?
You do realize bank rates are MUCH lower than whatever they’re paying out now, right? Heck, with all the connections Ferki allegedly has, bank should be lining up to lend him money.
You can’t explain this. Don’t bother. BOP makes no sense as a business, even by their own explanation.
RTB and all that? Just smokes and mirrors. It’s just buzzword that you think you understand, but don’t.
I know precisely what RTB is, know senior directors at dozens of companies in the UK, US, and Eastern Europe that are involved in RTB (advertisers, agencies, RTB tech businesses etc.), and I can guarantee you that BeonPush is not in the space.
Even the way that BOP describes how they use affiliates funds simply can’t be true. For claritys sake, YOU CANNOT BUY A POSITION IN RTB – IT’S REAL TIME FFS!
I’m very happy to have an open conversation with anyone from the company, and I’m even happy to introduce them directly to advertisers that spend $millions per month on RTB. They will never do it, as they aren’t able to have a conversation with someone who actually understands it.
made no RTB advertising on weekends, or why pay Beonpush only from Monday to Friday …. :-))), are you thinking what to …..:-)
It is a Ponzi system…
Hello there, I’ve read alot of comments now… You know what banks (Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Oz I’ve read around 10000 times now that Beonpush is a ponzi, because they use the money of new investors, to pay out others. Your missing a proof that RTB is generating profit, which I can understand. This is secret company data to not share their customers with others – which I can understand.
@Jon Walsh I think Beonpush is just using this description “buy positions” because most of the people are stupid and wouldnt even understand, it’s just for the ease.
Anyways, Beonpush is ONLY their investment sector, they work with companies investing in RTB, they dont do it themselves. That’s why Beonpush is not named directly in combination with RTB.
Kind Regards.
Oh Oz I forgot… just to get your things right. Beonpush is generating 130% – 150% only for premium members (who actually invest into the company – pay 25$/month).
The calculation behind their system is very good in my opinion.
You never get a fixed value every day. It is between 1% and 1,8% most of the days, depending on how their trading worked on this day.
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@Daniel
Advertising doesn’t pay a fixed (1% to 1.8%) daily ROI like BeOnPush are advertising.
Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors does though…
Face it, the only verifiable source of revenue into BeOnPush is affiliate investment. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what’s happening here.
And the source of this information is… Beonpush, which is NOT verifiable via a third-party.
Other words, you’re going around in circles.
A: I earn 130-150% profit
B: Is there proof?
A: Yes, I said so.
B: Okay
In case it’s not obvious, you’re B.
@Oz “a fixed 1% to 1,8%”???? i don’t get it or you don’t get it. Let’s say I buy an advertisment space for 100$. I sell this space via RTB (since these are auctions, it’s always sold for more – as in every auction house) for 140$ – I’ve a profit of 40$.
The next day the same auction goes out for 130$ … so ofcourse there are differences daily. It even went down to 0,8% 1 day on 100$ pack.
@K. Chang I don’t understand your nonsense. 130% for normal members, 150% for premium members. I started with 150$ on Beonpush and after ~2 months I had 13 people in my direct line and 900$ profit (which I completely reinvested).
Now I paid out my 150$ so all I get is +++ Anyways, there are dozens of people who can proof that you get your 130%. But its not the topic here, the big question is if there is a product (RTB) behind Beonpush or not.
I ve seen a live video of Sergej Heck sitting in a presentation about RTB from Beonpush. Ofcourse you can say the video is fake.
@Oz you know the falsification? It’s the only truth. So if you want your theory verified, falcificate it. Give me a proof that its a scam. You can’t. Can we proof its not a scam? How could we?
So ofcourse we are turning circles here, no?
Kind Regards
@Daniel
That’s a cute story.
1. BeOnPush has nothing to do with RTB until you can independently verify that it does.
2. Advertising does not pay consistent ROIs daily. Investments do, advertising does not.
3. If BeOnPush was able to consistently generate fixed ROIs from advertising, they’d have no reason to solicit thousands of dollars of investment from affiliates.
Go to a bank, take out a small loan for $1000 and retire as the richest people on the planet in a few years. Yet here we are…
The only verifiable source of revenue entering BeOnPush is affiliate investment. Ergo new affiliate investment is being used to pay off existing investors.
Now it’s your turn to provide proof BeOnPush has anything to do with advertising.
the onus is on you to prove it’s legit as you are asking people for money. you can’t as it’s a scam.
You say BeOnPush is generating revenue via RTB, but you can’t provide any proof other than “BeOnPush said so”. I ask you do you have any third-party verifiable proof, you call my question nonsense.
It’s obvious that you have no idea what nonsense is.
It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush can be a ponzi and a scam but no one dare say it is for sure.
It would be a pretty poor fraudster who left “evidence” laying around the ‘net for anyone to find.
Tell you what, why don’t you sell the farm, access your parents’ savings and cash in your life insurance and invest the lot in BeOnPush ???
Don’t believe what you’re being told ????
Fine, go ahead and sink your money into BoP.
There’s no compulsion to believe a word that has been said
Believe or don’t believe, no one here is going to lose money, either way.
There’s no “for sure” until BoP’s books are audited, but then, what fraudster would do that?
Remember, Madoff’s ponzi lasted decades, involved tens of BILLIONS of dollars, and was signed off by multiple accountants and even routine SEC inquiries. And some have repeated warned that Madoff’s numbers don’t add up.
Did we listen to him? Nope.
It is entirely up to you to believe the evidence or not. But there is no “smoking gun”. The entire point of Ponzi is to NOT show you all the numbers. If it’s that obvious, it’s not much of a scam, is it?
Instead, take the “cockroach effect”… If there’s one roach, there is bound to be more. And how many “hmmm…” signs have you seen? You can ignore one or two, sure, but there are too many.
FTFY.
@Daniel, the video of Sergei Heck was a fake, and was then taken straight out again, please where is the video now???
If beonpush is so good, why does not use any other company this model?
I just visited Juha Pariah’s FB page (#1 onecoin pimp/ $4 trillion a month top earner, or whatever) and he appears to also be pimping this now! Telling sign??
@James the video of Sergej Heck is still online in the Dropbox. It was never uploaded because its showing company data. They gave us the link intern with the request to not share it. Maybe because its a scamm?
You guys might missunderstand me. Why am I here? To clarify. I would not be here if I had no sceptisism.
The point is, it is very easy to say its scam coz it sounds unreal. Thats exactly what you d have said to bitcoins. And yet we all would be millionaires.
@littleroundman only one very stupid would invest more than you are able to lose. Since everything, EVERYTHING can have a crash nowdays. Even Facebook will not last forever.
The point is. Even if it is a ponzi, it is generating profit if you participate or not. So I’m not quite sure what to do, but believe me I’m very glad to have a discussion about beonpush here.
Even though its not neutral, and yet, @Oz you don’t bring up any arguments except: “fixed ROI (whatever u mean with fixed since its variable) is not possible with adverts – so its a ponzi”.
Kind Regards
It seems to be stated quite clearly in the review.
Just in case you missed this part:
I don’t see that anywhere Tim. Care to share a link or screenshot?
@ Chris Bailey
Juha Parhiala: facebook.com/juha.parhiala.1
It might be a copycat who tries to exploit Parhiala’s name to build a downline in Onecoin and now in BeOnPush as well.
YOU, I, ANYONE CANNOT BUY ADVERTISING SPACE FOR $100 (OR ANY AMOUNT) AND THEN RESELL IT VIA RTB.
Apologies for the caps, but I need to shout this point. Online ad space is ephemeral, as it is all boils down to ad impressions.
You cannot pre-buy ad impressions tomorrow from a website or from a network without dealing direct with their sales team and drawing up a contract (known as an insertion order).
The website/ad network will want to know who you are (agency or client) and will want to know and approve the advertiser (no guns, no tobacco etc.) YOu would then need to create what is known as third party redirect tags, that would house tags from an SSP to allow the impressions to be sold in real time.
As the buy you have done is done as run of site/run of channel, you would have no data targeting on it, which means you would have no granular understanding of the audience to which you have bought your impressions, so there is no understanding as to whether the impressions you are then hoping to sell on the ad exchange will create you a profit.
This whole description is a nonsense and can’t work. It cannot happen in the real advertising world for multiple reasons, and even if somehow it could, there would be very little chance of making any arbitrage or profit.
Beonpush doesn’t even understand RTB to talk about it. Questions they would have ti answer to any potential advertisers (assuming that they are legit) are:
1) what tech platform(s) are they using?
2) what is their ‘secret source’? why should advertiser spend with them and not Accordant Media (for example)?
3) What advertiser case studies can they share?
4) Who is their Head of Trading/Account Management/Data Science?
5) Why can’t you give me better rates rather than pay your “members”? My advertising results are the only thing that matter to me.
I am happy to have a recorded conversation with all/any of BeonPush team and ask questions that only someone with an intimate understanding of digital marketing and RTB can ask.
Thanks MLM Broken Model.
Color me skeptical as that FB page appears to be all of about 5 days old.
Two different accounts:
facebook.com/juha.parhiala is the ‘real’ one
facebook.com/juha.parhiala.1 is the referral scammer “siofelcapo”
False. BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because it uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
You cannot show any evidence advertising has anything to do with BeOnPush. The only verifiable source of revenue is affiliate investment, ergo ROIs are paid with invested funds.
is it true Beonpush stopped the payouts! allegedly because too many partners had multiple accounts?
200000 accounts and apparently only 35,000 partners, funny …….
@James too many people abused the system yep. So why would a “ponzi” or “scam” have troubles with this?
They stopped the payouts and transfers until friday or sunday.
I don’t know where you guys get your information from.
1. There are alot more than 200.000 Accounts.
2. 50.000 different payments registered though.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN there are only “35.000” or 50.000 partners… Several people manage the accounts of their investors.
People leave too much shitstorm and spread rumors because they are not informed. Funny …
@Daniel:
here are the information from the CEO… Hey… it is a Ponzi, ferki say in this Video:
now we are making adverdising with the mobilphone… :-))
and before ???? ha ha ha.. not..
youtube.com/watch?v=TFGs_GFhLLI
Reading this I recall all the hate I got when I told people that ZeekRewards was a ponzi. I have been getting hammered with this for months and it’s 100% a ponzi.
Fact is we’ve seen ponzi’s have legit businesses and still fail. A big one is PIPS from about 12 years ago. They had offices around the world, etc..etc. Fact is unless you can look at the books, you don’t know.
I’ve read reports that advertising companies have tried contacting Beonpush and haven’t heard back. So, are they so successful that they don’t need more business?
This thing is a ponzi, it will die. Just because it’s paying you or has paid you doesn’t mean that it’s not a ponzi.
A lot of the people in these threads online can’t see the truth until it slaps them in the face. Then they decide that anything MLM is a scam. When in reality it’s because they get to emotionally attached to earning money the EASY way that they can’t accept their own screw ups.
Don’t let this happen to you. There’s way to many ways to make an honest dollar, working for it. To chase these golden dreams, that should sound to good to be true.
Now, that being said, if you like to gamble, these things can be fun, but don’t BS people and tell them it’s real. It’s a ponzi!
This guy didn’t find some secret advertising business model and decide he would share it with thousands of strangers around the world. He could have borrowed 10k from a bank and retired by now.
He came up with a good story, found a bunch of idiots to invest in it and he’s skimming off the top.
beonpush is closed…. it is over….:-)))))
They didn’t close but they stopped the entire mlm system. People are not longer allowed to recruit new people.
You can still invest up to 50k and get 150% of your investment. Doesn’t look like a ponzi anymore.
HYIP scams are still Ponzi schemes.
it is over… you will never get money back…. that is only for winning time…:-)
If someone need the private address from Ferki Demirovski:
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It’s from NOLINK: companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09714406/officers
That link is 404, removed the information.
Here is his address according to beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/: 2a, Goce Delcev, Delcevo, Trabotiviste, Macedonia (Fyr), 2325
But I don’t think it’s real.
It is real…the just had a leaders meeting there.
Beonpush is now a totally private program accepting NO MORE members… it’s profits are totally self generated and pays out for life.
What kind of a ponzi is that ??
One that still has a sign up page on their website and still uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
We’ve been hearing about “accepting no more members” for months. Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.
Ferki Demirovski had an own page on WIKIPEDIA.org, but the site was deleted. NOLINK://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Ferki_Demirovski
That is it for BeonPush, one more Scam is game over. Ferki explains in a video (on youtube 19.07) they lost over 100 mio $ .. I hope this guy ends up in Jail.
can you send the video….. ?
This is called an exit strategy.
They didn’t lose anything, the money is sitting in an offshore account somewhere.
@Oz Of course that is how they put the money in their pockets .. Actually the video has been taken off youtube just moments ago … It was also available on the Facebook Group: BeonPush WinGroup.
ok,… clear….. the poeple have no chance to get the money back… crazy….
But ferki promise, that hey pay back the money… to the people who will it…:-)
@ James you are right ..unfortunately for all the believers and investors …but that money is gone.
Sad for the people but it is a life experience for them to be carful with all these onlin e. scams… Ferki has to be very careful because there have been many Russian Investors and they do not joke if one screws them 🙂
What have you learned in just over a month since you posted that comment?
It really was one the whole time!!
NOLINK//beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09714406/filing-history
BEONPUSH LTD. – GAME OVER since yesterday!
Melanie… whats means this… that the company is from the goverment cloesd?
@James:
No. It means, that Ferki Demirovsky has packed all his bags with participants money and is ready to fly away.
There is an application to close down (strike off) the company BeOnPush from UK companies register. An application was filled and signed by Ferki himself.
The game actually ends.
I had an account with beonpush and was sent a refund form.
I filled it in and sent it back in September but up to now I haven’t heard from them. How can I get my refund back?
Unless an agency intervenes and a receiver is appointed, your chances of obtaining a refund are negligible.
You’ve been defrauded and the money is gone.
What can be done to report beonpush efficiently?
They stole a lot of money and kicking out complaining members form social media, a group should be made, this ferki demerivoki must be in jail!
Local authorities are your best bet. Don’t expect much though, this Ponzi went under some time ago.
yeah… I think the whole refund thing was just a TIME STALLER/ SAVER for the company.
they blocked my account and have no response to me regarding why???