30 Day Success Formula Review: Two-tier cash gifting mail fraud
The 30 Day Success Formula provides no information about who owns or runs the business.
The 30 Day Success Formula website domain (“30daysuccessformula.com”) was privately registered on May 20th, 2017.
Despite the age of the domain, 30 Day Success Formula itself only recently relaunched.
Looking at archived copies of the 30 Day Success Formula website, it seems the company has adjusted entry costs over the past two years.
As always, if an MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
30 Day Success Formula Products
30 Day Success Formula has no retailable products or services, at least not within its MLM opportunity.
30 Day Success Formula affiliates send money to each other through the mail.
As these payments are made, 30 Day Success Formula affiliates receive access to various marketing courses.
No information about who authored the courses is provided.
Outside of the business opportunity, 30 Day Success Formula’s admin sells access to its course for $697.
The company also markets “done for you business packages”. The packages start at $4997 and go up to $24,997.
The 30 Day Success Formula Compensation Plan
New 30 Day Success Formula affiliates gift funds to existing affiliates.
These gifting payments in turn qualify the affiliate to receive funds from subsequently recruited affiliates.
30 Day Success Formula track gifting payments down two levels of recruitment. That is the affiliate who recruits a new affiliate get paid (first level), as well as the affiliate who recruited them (second level).
There are six tiers within 30 Day Success Formula’s gifting scheme:
- level 1 – gift $89 and receive $30 on level 1 (personally recruited affiliates) and $20 on level 2
- level 2 – gift $250 and receive $100 on level 1 and $50 on level 2
- level 3 – gift $1000 and receive $400 on level 1 and $200 on level 2
- level 4 – gift $2500 and receive $1000 on level 1 and $400 on level 2
- level 5 – gift $5000 and receive $2000 on level 1 and $500 on level 2
- level 6 – gift $12,500 and receive $6000 on level 1 and $1500 on level 2
Note that 30 Day Success Formula Affiliates can only earn as much as the tier they’ve gifted into.
E.g. If a level 4 affiliate recruits someone who gifts in at level 5, they receive their $1000 level 4 gifting payment ($2500).
The $2500 difference is paid upline to the first qualified level 5 affiliate.
Higher gifting tiers grandfather 30 Day Success Formula affiliates into lower tiers (i.e. gift $12,500 at level 6 and you’re qualified to earn on all lower tiers).
Joining 30 Day Success Formula
30 Day Success Formula affiliate membership is tied to an $89 to $12,500 gifting payment.
The more an affiliate gifts the higher their income potential via the 30 Day Success Formula compensation plan.
Your first (and most important) red flag with 30 Day Success Formula is affiliates sending each other money.
This is cash gifting and it’s pretty much illegal all over the world.
Demonstrating that the scammer(s) behind 30 Day Cash Success Formula knows what they’re doing, they address this red flag in their FAQ;
This program is NOT MLM, network marketing or cash gifting.
Make no mistake, affiliates sending each other money in MLM is cash gifting.
It doesn’t matter what’s bundled with payments (some marketing course in this instance), the business model is still illegal.
New 30 Day Success Formula affiliates receive an “order” form”, on which are three addresses they’re supposed to send cash payments to.
You can see from the example order form above, that there’s an admin payment in “box #1”. Box #2 is the recruiting affiliate and Box #3 is the second level upline.
Once payment is cleared (presumably those in the boxes acknowledge receipt in the 30 Day Success Formula backoffice), the new affiliate gets order forms of their own to send out.
Their details will be in Box #1 and whoever recruited them (serial scammers Aaron and Shara Andrews in this instance), will be in Box #2.
Note the provided admin address is that of a UPS Store, which 30 Day Success Formula recommends affiliates use;
Do I need a P.O. Box to get started?
No, we do not recommend a P.O. Box.
We only recommend that you use your home address or a mailbox that offers a real street address, such as a UPS Store mailbox.
Pretending it’s not a gifting scam isn’t the only deception 30 Day Success Formula engages in.
For some reason, they want you to believe they’re the only company in the US that’s partnered with MasterCard.
We are the only company in the Nation to partner with MasterCard and offer a prepaid credit card made out of real metal.
Readers are welcome to call up MasterCard and ask if they’ve ever heard of 30 Day Success Formula.
Another point of deception are the testimonials on the 30 Day Success Formula website – in particular, that of “John Greene”.
Greene, whose actual name is John Green, is a US based author and fairly well-known YouTuber.
Not withstanding the 30 Day Success Formula website domain wasn’t registered until May 2017, I couldn’t find anything directly linking Green to 30 Day Success Formula.
He seems like a pretty busy guy with a lot to lose reputation wise, so I’m having a hard time believing Green is low-key promoting scams like 30 Day Success Formula.
Finally and although it’s outside of the offered MLM opportunity, 30 Day Success Formula is also potentially engaged in securities fraud.
The companies “done for you” businesses are advertised for a fixed investment with stated monthly returns:
30 Day Success Formula isn’t registered with the SEC, so any securities offering is unregistered and therefore illegal.
Note that how the security is set up doesn’t matter, 30 Day Success Formula are marketing a passive monthly return on an investment – that’s a security and requires SEC registration.
Oh and obviously if these businesses were legit, the 30 Day Success Formula admin would just run them themselves. Fast way to lose a quarter hundred grand though.
As with all MLM gifting schemes, 30 Day Success Formula’s business model requires constant recruitment of new affiliates participants.
As soon as recruitment slows down, so do gifting payments within the scheme.
This eventually prompts a collapse, which will result in the majority of 30 Day Success System affiliates losing money.
Tom Yater aka The Furry Hat Guy is another serial scammer involved in this.
He does a daily package opening party on facebook with his girlfriend Ania. They open priority mail & Fedex packages & count there cash. He claims to have made 6 figures in 6 weeks.
The sheeples are flocking to him looking to make a quick buck.
There ya go
I guess Yatar reinventing himself as a crypto scam lord din’t work out then…
The All-Star cast is there … Justin Verrengia, Alex Zubarev, Aaron Rashkin, Alfredo Delgado, Mack Mills, Mack Zidan, or whatever his real name is.
Tom Yatar , aka Tom The Furry Hat Guy, bought a new car with other people’s cash.
What’s even worse is some of these above mentioned “leaders” are encouraging people to take out business loans of up to $35,000 so they can get all in.
Sadly, all that’s “required” is a 630 credit score and $2500 monthly income.
To borrow up to $35,000.
The company is SBSFinancing.com .
Should be interesting to see who’s running that.
An interesting take, Oz, to point out the Securities violations, too.
Maybe mail fraud, too.
For many on this list, it’s already their 3rd or 4th “business” of 2019.
UPDATE: 30-Day Success Formula is bringing electronic payment options over the next 3 weeks (hint hint so they can expand outside the United States).
Plus, a Level 7 is coming so everyone can pay at a $20,000 level.
More opportunity for financing back end money for Tom and his team.
Gifting is gifting, whether it’s electronically processed or old school sending money in the mail.
From a legal standpoint, my understanding is: Cash gifting is when you give someone any amount of money without an exchange of goods or services. So HOW, exactly, would this opportunity fall within those parameters if purchasers ARE receiving a product, a physical product in the mail?
It’s like the old programs that charged XYZ for ‘advertising’ – a service rendered, that were later shut down for being illegal schemes BECAUSE the company wasn’t really selling or fulfilling advertising.
PLENTY of red flags on this one – but what’s the difference that makes the difference really if a product or service is honestly being fulfilled?
So glad to see truth reviews for this one are finally coming in.
What pisses me off the most is the “30 day success scam” is nearly identical to Big Profit System from a few years ago. That was when I had rosecolored glasses and I haven’t been screwed by these “leaders” before.
I joined it, and over the next few months essentially lost $4000 to it, to the scammer sponsor and to the fraudulent organization. Over time I thought about it and I’m GLAD to be one of the “failures” of becoming a criminal fraudsters.
I don’t want to make a living extracting money from poor people in need. If I actually had someone who wanted to join me with it, I think I wouldn’t have been able to go through with it.
So that is why these particular schemes strike a chord with me. I wish there were a way to open folks eyes to stop giving these schemes and these same fraudsters their money.
Thanks Oz for making this, getting the word out is the best way to save people from going through what I did.
False. Cash gifting is when you pay an existing participant, and that payment qualifies you to receive payments from subsequently recruited participants.
What you attach to the gifting business model is irrelevant. Same way you can’t legitimize a pyramid scheme by bundling crap with recruitment commissions.
Oz-Rob Fore posted your behind mlm article on his facebook page.
Please report all the people named in the comments in story and report to attorney general in North Carolina and Texas which is the strongest states to lock those people up.
Get their names and addresses from their PDFs instructions and post in comments here so we can all file complaints also.
From Tom & Ania’s Abundant Lifestyle Facebook Group:
And one post below is a new member of his team wondering how she will make money between now and the end of May because the “company” has announced no more letters are going out.
His response? “Not bad news. We will teach you how to market this (offline) program online.”
In other words, let’s just pretend this is an offline program and we’ll share it with our online friends.
This guy knows no bounds.
Texas residents should report Rhonda Roscovius and Frank Calabro Jr. to the Attorney General in Texas, as they both reside there.
Frank Calabro Jr could also be reported to the North Carolina Secretary of State Securities Division by anyone residing in that state.
Marybeth Angiolleli is still in Poland, Ohio as far as I know. I have no idea if Ohio gives a damn that they provide refuge for one of the worst cash gifting referral whores in the USA or not.
Online or offline, gifting is gifting.
I screwed up and joined this program. They are full of bs just like you describe on this site.
They do not give refunds. I won’t be making this kind of mistake again.
I will stick with my ebay and retail sales. Most everything else out there is garbage.
Who’s your sponsor, Phil? At least he could give back his portion.
Contact the local Postmaster in Racine, WI; Lake Worth, FL; Whitehall, PA; and in every city where the pimps of this Ponzi live.
Also file an online complaint with the United States Postal Inspector General’s office.
No, he won’t give a refund. No individual would ever give a refund on this especially when the company is saying that they will give refunds.
I’m confused, if we all know these guys are frauds taking money from people from one program to the next, why are they still able to do it?
A combination of a never-ending parade of gullible saps and existing Stockholm syndrome victims that follow them from one scam to another.
In other words, the reason they are able to do it is cause they manage to consistently find stupid people that buy into their bullshit..
Calabro is in this too. I called north carilina, united states secretary of state to find out about the earlier investigation they had on him and me losing money in USI Tech.
They told me that he was arrested a few months ago by secretary of state special agents and has been indicted on security fraud for USI-tech scam. He is awaiting trial BUT if you haven’t called them, you will not be named as a victim in the case.
So tell everyone you know who got scammed by Frank Calabro to call the nc secretary of state. ask for Sunni. (numbers removed)
All of these guys mentioned in this thread are all about themselves. They are on to the next deal as soon as another one starts.
Just look at their track records. Many of them have their own private Facebook groups where they gather their sheep for the next slaughter.
In these Facebook groups, they’re pitching multiple offers encouraging bonuses their followers to join them all. And if you don’t have enough cash, apply for business loans up to $35,000 so you can.
Another reason they can keep on doing this —- victims not reporting when they have been scammed.
Everyone see my post two above! If pulled in by calabro, need to report as described above…..otherwise, they continue to get rich off of other peoples money,
REPORT NOW Folks.
Dewey is right. They are getting ready to move to onto a new ICO starting in 30 days.
Michael Mansell is another scammer in 30 day success formula and on his FB page he announced some of the scammers onboard with the new ICO scam.
Jason Stone, Michael Mansell, Justin Verrengia, Vitaliy Dubinin, Ankur Agarwal, Brad Heck, Jason Bto, Peter Humphreys, Roberto Hector, Gary Simpson, Cian Dafe, Daven Michaels, Héctor Rodríguez Curbelo, Rasham Sharma, Kelvin Carwell, Ankiit Nallwa, John Halpin, Jennifer Zukowski, Brandon Kelly.
Do we have any evidence of an indictment? I removed the phone numbers until we have confirmation.
The 30-Day Cash Gifting Success Formula promises a 90-day money back guarantee.
Ha! Good luck getting anyone like Justin Verrengia to send back your $6,000 for getting all-in with him if you’re not happy.
Or, better yet, when this implodes within 90 days.
Here’s the email he sent out to his list today:
top of the heap at pizzaboyprofits…
Chris Campbell is finishing up building a mansion for himself with all of that pizza money. He had an epic fail of a launch of a deal last year. He probaly needs lots and lots of suckers, I mean team members, in order to pay for his new house.
All of these guys have posted pics of themselves with other people’s cash.
Total mail fraud.
Alex Zubarev, Aaron Rashkin, Mack Mills, Tom Yatar, Justin Verrengia, Robert Mercado,
There are more. List their names below. Get into their free facebook groups a d copy their pictures.
Turn in these crooks.
Just do the math…
The company claims that they automatically mail out 200 letters on your behalf on their dime, and they recoup their money for the advertising when your cash payments start rolling in.
They say mailings are bringing in between 3% and 8% returns. Total BS if you just do the math.
Let’s say 1 person, just 1 person joins … amounts of payments or level joined doesn’t matter. We’re simply looking at the number of letters being mailed here:
Look what happens if you just do a 3% return:
200 letters go out. You get 6 first line payments. 6 people signed up.
So now, according to the company, 200 letters are mailed out for each of those 6.
1200 letters. 3% of that is 36. 36 more people joined.
Company mails out 200 letters for each of them. That’s 7200 letters.
3% of that is 216 new members
216 x 200 letters = 43,200 letters
3% of that is 1296 new members
1296 x 200 letters = 239,200 letters
3% of that is 7176 new members
7176 x 200 letters =1,435,200 letters
Ok now. COME ON!!!!
That’s just 1 person joining. Imagine that there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people that have joined this already.
According to the company, this is what will happen, based on their statement that they AUTOMATICALLY mail 200 letters for each and every new member.
They would be literally mailing BILLIONS OF LETTERS a day if this was real. This is clearly FAKE!
RUN, RUN, RUN from this nonsense!
UPDATE: Tom and Ania with an update.
Basically, “Why we haven’t been making videos.”
For anyone who’s been around the block even a little, this is the classic “damage control” video. Things are already going wrong. Tom and Ania have been hiding.
She’s even dumb enough to admit the 1st round of “letters” were non-compliant.
And that people paying for their 200 letters to go out won’t be getting them sent anytime soon.
But, hey, go ahead and join now!
By the way, great math above, Mike.
I still can’t believe people are falling for this scam of scams. This thing will totally implode by the end of the month.
Then the real fun begins.
Let’s see if
offer to send cash back to all their “customers”.
Grab your popcorn.
Yeah nah, social media promoters don’t just go on unannounced week long vacations.
It’s very odd that Tom Yatar & Ania are the only people who know about the changes taking place in 30 Day Success Formula.
Tom said he got an email from them but apparently they have not notified everyone
This is so sad … this Tom furry guy has been ripping people off for what like over 10 years now??
All he cares about is himself – i know multiple people who’ve gotten hurt by his actions and he has no regard … what needs to be done to stop him?
From what I can tell, the only way to really stop the cycle of these mail fraud scams are to keep getting the word out and prevent people from believing it in the first place.
Sadly there will always be gullible suckers. Emotions win out over intellect, combined with laziness.
In my experience from being screwed by a similar scheme a few years ago all the same big names are promoting this and it’s basically the same thing.
As long as there’s a fresh sea of gullible sheep, the fraudsters will lead them to slaughter.
Perhaps the FTC or mail services can implement some sort of cash gifting screening such as if a flyer and cash appear in the xray, put the package on hold for inspection.
Mike, a minor correction to your numbers. When I multiplied 1296 x 200 I got 259,200 not 239,200 which makes the numbers even more outrageous.
The truth is that they will be lucky to get a 1% response rate.
The reason being the names list they are using are lists of former suckers who lost money and won’t respond this time around.
This update from 30 Day Success Formula is circulating on FB. Only a few select people have received the email
NEW PDF is RELEASED.
30 Day Success Formula
I am happy to inform you the new sales letter is finally here! Take a look by visiting this link:
Thanks for the heads up!
Who do people think they are running this “offline” business “online, lying to people about the information that they’re giving, and running a cash scheme?
How do we put this to an end? I see the same people constantly advertising their “work from home” opportunities and so far they’ve all turned out to be scams!!
One thing to do, Jessica. Get into all of their funnels with a fake email address and you’ll see the magical sales letter.
On it, many have their home address. Might be nice to know where Tom Yatar lives.
If you have a copy of one of the letters showing the address, feel free to upload (imgur) and link. But no residential addresses in comments thanks.
The FTC website has good information for who to report these scammers too.
One person in the forum had be scammed out of $88k
These people should be ashamed of themselves!
I just want to say! I dont know if this is a scam or not (Ozedit: snip, then try reading the review again.)
Cassandra Goode doesn’t even know what is going on with 30 Day Success Formula. The owner isn’t communicating with anyone.
She did an update on youtube on Sunday 6/19. People were told to request a new pdf & it would take 72 hours to receive it and they aren’t getting the pdf’s. They are not getting the new welcome packages either.
These people should wake up & admit that it’s over!
Cassandra Goode appears to be a nice lady.
I hope she’s has all of that money in escrow that she’s been collecting in case the “business” goes under.
Everyone joining has been promised a 90-day money-back guarantee.
What happens when all of those people ask her to send back those cash commissions?
Hopefully she didn’t give out her home address on those welcome packages.
So Cassandra Goode is the mastermind behind the whole scheme?
Or who lol seems like a bunch of smoke & mirrors to me.
Cassandra Goode made out well because Yatar signed up under her. I have to wonder if she is regretting it now. Once Yatar got involved he blew it up online and I feel he knew what he was doing, having those package parties flashing cash! He is also milking his followers $10 for expedited PDFs and now milking them for $35 to make a cover letter to mail out offline.
Calling the company if you can get thru leads you to people answering the calls who have different info from each person you get. And no one really seems to know what is going on.
Yatar is living large but at the rate he is going, he will have to find another scam to join as he will be broke in no time. Going on cruises, to going to Hawaii a week after a cruise to the Bahamas.
Ironically, the so called letters the company mail out for members was put on hold beginning of April and at the time it was to resume in 2 weeks. It is now close to heading into June and the response is letters will start mailing out in 2 weeks. It’s been almost 2 months for those waiting on their mailings to go out.
It’s gone from Karen Osbourne as owner to Simon Petroski as president. Neither have any online footprints and no pictures of either. Have to wonder who really is behind this thing.
Okay, I so recognize that this is a scam and I did not fall for this but I see these people online and I followed this down to the rabbit hole and what’s going to happen to these idiots now?
how long until this shit explodes and if it’s not illegal how is it just going on like this if you type in that 30 day success formula on google it will take you to a website that looks sketchy but operational.
So you’re saying this guy is running it hiding a corporate veil doing this through these other scammers online? Lol
I live by that post office to about an hour away lol.
Regulation is reactionary. We can’t speak on behalf of regulators in terms of whether they’ll take action.
All we can do is point out 30 Day Success Formula’s business model is illegal. The regulatory side of things is up to regulators.
I wrote something here and you took it down because it did not agree with you.
You are not out to help people that is for sure I hope people research this like I did for you are a lier.
No, I didn’t. You’re just too much of a dumbass to realize you left the comment on another article.
Your apology is accepted in advance.
Figures.. Gwenda is a constant nagger about articles like this. Could not find her way out of a closet… let alone describing how this crappy program is sustainable.
Question for OZ. You state that “Cash gifting is when you pay an existing participant, and that payment qualifies you to receive payments from subsequently recruited participants.”
I in no way doubt you, but rather I have searched to find the legal definition or statute, and have been unable to find it.
Since your language seemed very “legislative” in nature, can you point me to where this definition/statute language is? Thanks in advance!
If it sounded legislative it was unintentional. I try to explain illegal business model in as simple terms as possible.
If you want to read up on the legality of cash gifting schemes in the US though here are some DOJ sources:
Note the gifting model. Attaching a product or service to the model wherein you pay to qualify to receive payments from subsequently recruited participants is what differentiates a gifting scheme from a product purchase.
Straight out of Tom (Yatar) The Furry Hat Guy’s Private FB Group. They’re on to a new cash gifting program …
Ugh… so this is a thing now?
It gets worse, Oz.
Maybe federal agencies can plan to be in attendance on June 20, 2020.
I don’t have a problem with scammers getting married.
But what’s this about:
Oh right, it’s a joint that literally bans children. Fair play.
Looks like Tom and Ania have moved on to another scheme that looks… extremely similar to 30 Day Success Formula, complete with a lengthy sales letter.
MailboxProfits.com use code 887158 to get in.
I “signed up” under a dummy email and they gave some interesting instructions to send the money to the company:
Uh, more like tips on how to commit mail fraud because what we’re doing it totally illegal and we don’t want USPS to find out.
Seems Yatar has moved on to what looks like another 30 day program called mailbox profits.
Yatar has given himself a new name same address “abundant lifestyle profits” lol. This one is so identical to 30 day and I can’t find info on who owns it.
Yatar has also followed some guy named Long into some sms texting crap. Wonder when people will wake up.
Sent 30 day success formula $799 for 1000 DIY package. They said they received $79, RIPPED ME OFF FOR $720. One person fucked up my order, ripped me off, they all pay.
Fuck them, they are liars and thieves, worst “at home” company and business I’ve ever dealt with.
Hope they get sued, their buildings burn down, and they go out of business.
Harsh, NO, PISSED, YES!! How many people have they lied to, stolen from, how many families are financially fucked by them. SO TIRED OF B.S. SCAM SHIT.
I HOPE I SAVED SOMEONE TIME, EFFORT, MONEY, AND HELPED SOMEONE AVOID ANGER FROM THE PITS OF HELL.
I have lost money to with 30 day success formula.
they emailed me in July telling me my letters had been sent off on the 23rd of July and I sent them $599 for a mailing of $400.
I sent them a very nasty email a month ago and they sent me a email a few days ago telling me they understood what I was saying but they also had the nerve to tell me since my letters were sent out on the 23rd of July I was not eligible for a refund since it had not been 90 days.
they full of shit and I’m gojng to send them another email and what can people do about Tom the furry hat guy I received a email from them today they gave another program they are doing now.
They have a new program called direct mail pro it’s backed up by some big company that claim they have been in business for over 20 years.
Direct Mail Pro just launched a few months ago – https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/direct-mail-pro-review-peter-wolfings-2019-pyramid-scheme/
Anyone who tells you it’s been in business for 20+ years is lying.
I joined 30day Success Formula in may 2019. Since then they have not mailed the 200 flyers for me.
I joined at the first level I mailed out some 400 flyers and nothing has happen.
I called them and they said they would get back to me but nothing so far. some 5 months has passed and still nothing.
I would like this to work but I am stuck. Asked for my money back but never got a response. Help.
Gary Van Maanen
(Ozedit: personal details removed)
Hi Gary, 30 Day Success Formula is a gifting scheme.
You sign up and hand over your money to the scammers who recruited you. Unless you can find new victims, you lose out.
No matter how many bullshit flyers are sent out, all gifting schemes collapse once recruitment tanks. Which it appears to have done in 30 Day Success Formula.
Your money is with the person who recruited you. Sorry for your loss.
30 day success is complete scam, joined March 29th 2019, sent them initial $89 then another $309 to mail out another 200 flyers, should have been 400 altogether.
they never mailed a single flyer and have lied to me many times and still not sent, after the third lie I cancelled the order and demanded all my money back, they took $309 and sent nothing in return, flat out stealing and fraud.
they refused refund, they are for sure liars and theives for sure.
I have filed complants with the SEC and internet crimes division of FBI and received a response that the complaint would be investigated and they have assigned case numbers.
they all need to go to jail as they are all assholes and I hope they eventually do.
Good News, FBI is now investigsting.
Simon Petrosky. The dumbass behind this Scam
I happened upon this thread by searching for Tom and Ania Yatar. I met them in Cabo and they were pushing what sounded like mail fraud and MLM. Glad I searched before I gave them money
Tom Yatar and Ania Ewelina are now pushing vibrationalwealth.com. Same hustle, but Tom claims it is now “legit” because an attorney joined into it and made it so.
Ania is from Poland, so not sure if she’s a US citizen. They left the country suddenly last year, way before COVID.
Now back in Texas, and state they are “staying with a friend”. Why would someone who claims to make so much have to live with someone else?
Sounds like they’re trying to not to have a physical address to be traced. Just a shame I saw an elderly lady hand over money to them.
Hope the FBI catches up to these crooks.
Is it actually an opp? Looks like they’re just shilling “we’ll show you how to scam people too” facetime.
edit: Nevermind. Vibrational Wealth is a feeder website for various opportunities they’re in, dressed up as personal development.
Tom… Yatar? The “Furry Hat Guy” from the Big Dog Gifting Community back in 2008? If it’s the man I am thinking of, he’s about as “honest” as Faith Sloan.
ANYTHING he promotes is going to be a unfunny money scheme of some kind; get poverty fast schemes are his schtick.
Happened upon here searching for Tom Yatar. I met him once about a year and a half ago. Never spoke about his bs to me, but he was memorable in a strange way.
I’m getting all his nonsense on my Facebook reels of him dancing and thought there was more to this. Low and behold, I was right.
He is in a bunch of the same Tampa Bay group I’m in. I will be contacting the admins of these groups.
Someone said it would be nice to know where he lives. He lives in Pinellas county, Florida.