WakeUpNow to file for bankruptcy? Done in the US?
Chatter on the grapevine this morning is that WakeUpNow are looking to file for bankruptcy.
I haven’t confirmed this yet myself, but a significant number of affiliates in other opportunities have been observed making the claim in recent promotional videos targeting WakeUpNow affiliates.
I did check Pacer for any bankruptcy filings but at the time of publication none were on the record.
The closest I’ve come to being able to confirm the news is a Facebook posting by Eric Turner, made just a few hours ago.
Turner, widely known as “Seemore Green” in WakeUpNow affiliate circles, was a top earner in the company.
Turner claims WakeUpNow owes him over $300,000 in commissions and that he hasn’t been paid anything since last August.
The topic of bankruptcy doesn’t come up in Turner’s post, however he does state
I am saddened to have to say something that I honestly thought I’d never have to say, and that is that #WakeUpNow will no longer be the company you’ve come to know & love.
WakeUpNow, at least in the US, is no longer.
A video from another WakeUpNow affiliate, Logan Shippy, was uploaded on February 9th and claims that
Over the next week some information will be released and it’s not pretty.
Shippy also claims he is a “top executive” with the company and that he’s “not going down with the ship”.
People are owed commissions. People are distraught in this situation. People are stressed out.
People relied on WakeUpNow. They let me down, they let you guys down. And honestly they burned so much trust with so many different people.
Some people might learn from the experience, however judging by what is said by Trippy in his video, he’s already jumped ship into a new (and likely similar) opportunity.
Pending official bankruptcy filings or confirmation from the company itself, that’s all I’ve been able to find.
WakeUpNow’s Facebook page meanwhile boasts of “awesome new enhancements to the comp plan” announced on a February 4th affiliate training call.
Personally whether WakeUpNow formally file for bankruptcy or whether or not they’ve just ran out of money and don’t know what to do, it’s hard for anyone to say they didn’t see this coming.
I called it mid last year after revealing WakeUpNow generated almost $8 million dollars in losses over 2012 and 2013.
In response to our article, WakeUpNow
BusinessForHome also raised concerns roughly a fortnight ago, publishing a report detailing payment processor problems in the US and combined losses now at $15 million dollars.
“Word in the street” in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA where around 100 MLM companies are based, is that Wake Up Now is looking for a new investor, if not found, it would be possible Wake Up Now will terminate operations shortly.
The way I see it, at its core WakeUpNow was always about recruiting new affiliates. The losses incurred are a result of paying out recruitment commissions and blowing money on useless pseudo-compliance.
Rather than address the core of the business model, in which quite obviously little to no retail activity was taking place (legitimate retail activity shouldn’t result in millions of dollars in losses), WakeUpNow instead ignored the recruitment problem.
A perfect example of this was the now deleted response to the article WakeUpNow published on their official company blog.
In the response, WakeUpNow ignored the lack of retail sales and instead attempted to deflect attention elsewhere. The company claimed BehindMLM was working for their competitors and compared themselves to Facebook, Amazon and eBay.
With this sort of nonsense being produced by WakeUpNow corporate, it was hardly surprising to see WakeUpNow affiliates parrot the nonsense.then that at an affiliate level things weren’t that different.
One such example was the response that the hiring of “famous people” would somehow turn around a recruitment driven compensation plan that saw almost nobody make any money.
In response to our $8 million in losses article, WakeUpNow affiliate Rick Almeida wrote
They Also added 20+ famous people, we wont have any problems growing our distributor base and customer base..
Now, published on Almeida’s Facebook page a few hours ago, he writes
I cant help but to think that if all the Famous people that joined WUN actually tried, instead of just posting 1-2 pics…the company wouldve exploded…
Denial much?
Perhaps not. Almeida also confesses that he was one of the few who made money in WakeUpNow:
No matter what happens with WUN, I made money with WUN and reached the 2-3% who successfully make money in Network Marketing.
Given that, expecting acknowledgement of the fact that Almeida screwed those he recruited into WakeUpNow because they couldn’t recruit new affiliates is probably a stretch.
And I suspect this will be a common theme among the few who actually made money in the company.
Pending official confirmation of bankruptcy being filed, or at the very least some official information as to what’s going on at WakeUpNow from corporate – As always, stay tuned…
same ole deja vu pyramid crash. recruitment slowed and there’s no money to pay affiliates. top affiliates pretend hurt and run. company blames affiliate behaviors for downfall. sigh.
if they file for bankruptcy, i hope the court will be using financial experts to ascertain WHY the business failed?
a financial analysis will immediately point to an illegal pyramid, with money being rotated internally.
why should wakeupnow be able to get away with a bankruptcy filing? who will compensate all the people at the bottom? wakeupnow may not have enough assets at all, and not much cash, to be used by a bankruptcy court, to pay creditors.
wakeupnow affiliates should file a class action, alleging a pyramid/ponzi scheme, if wakeupnow file for bankruptcy.
master distributor resigned from WUN
On the claims of resigning, if WakeUpNow is indeed “no more in the US” it would seem they had little choice in the matter.
This is a unintentional mistake in your article I am sure, but this Shippy character sounds more like Trippy to me. You should fix this typo anyhow.
Maybe that’s his middle-name? 🙂
“Logan Trippy Shippy” would be one hell of of the name.
No more ridiculous than Seemore Green.
How does anyone take these people seriously?
Wrong generation, Oz. Apparently the guy took “branding” to mean “use my nickname”.
Reminds me of Seymore Butts. That was great use of nickname for business.
I feel bad I had a lot of close friends who made the jump over there and tried to convince me to do the same. I’m glad I knew better.
WUN was easy to see through the scam, to make like 600 you had to have like 64 people under you if I rem correctly.
Then again, there are all those people who join all the scams though and can’t see through the thick fog of idiot that they are (Achieve $50 gives you $400), then when you say dude this is a scam, they claim you are a bad person and bash you instead.
Had a look on Pacer this morning, still nothing.
WakeUpNow are maintaining radio silence on their website and social media channels too.
Ethan Vanderbuilt is reporting that Brandon Boyd of Team Builders announced he has left WUN after 5 years saying it was time to take his talents elsewhere. Since he was one of the major promoters, this is definitely not good news.
Just surprised this lasted this long as it went to the dead file at MMG in early 2014.
That should have been a major red flag if they couldn’t get those people involved. They join about everything under the sun hoping and thinking this will be the “ONE” that will bring them untold riches.
Logan trippy shippy lol.
I saw a video of him being high not too long ago when he was younger, he was a fool and people still believed these kids…
I have a feeling they are full of lies, why would they keep charging peoples accounts if they are not paying their reps?? Makes sense..
I see yall are talking, but none of yall know anything true and real about WakeUpNow, it’s downfall, or these IBO’s your speaking of and saying bad stuff about!!!
1: Only 12 on your team to make $600 residual p/m
2: Only 3 to make $100 residual p/m
3: It’s Logan Shippy, he has resigned and moved on, he was Sapphire Executive in WUN which payed $28k-$30k residual p/m + bonuses
4: Brandon Boyd was a Master Distributor in WUN, a non-official title, but he was an actual Diamond Executive which pays $105k-$110k p/m residual and was in the company since It’s official launch in 2009
5: Name one company in network marketing that isn’t in “Pyramid” structure? WUN had multiple products and services in multiple industries within WUN…travel, cell phone, tax, health, fitness, energy drink, skin care, mobile apps, language, finance, and so on!!!
Things happened that were out of our (IBO’s) control, we did our part, we made or exceeded our sales volume requirements each month which allowed us to het paid, not solely based on recruiting, but we actually had to sell products and meet a volume quota each month!!!
6: WUN created more 6&7 figure a year earners in this industry than most (ie: Vemma, Vippassana, Visi, World Ventures, DS Domination, MCA, Novae, It Works, Leaf It, Modere, and etc…)
7: Yall are extremely ignorant and it seems like yall enjoy seeing a company fold! It happens, Amway and Avon and Mary Kay all suck…they have been around for more than 20 yrs but they suck…they don’t pay like other companies and no one likes that crap, but they are around because they were 1st in a new market which is now older and more unstable
8: WUN reps did not take our/people’s money…WUN corporation did, we don’t pay IBo’s to join, we pay WUN corporate
9: WUN IS NOT BANKRUPT!!!! dumbasses!!! Learn facts 1st!!! He say-she say is a disease!!!!
WakeUpNow had several losses and changes that ultimately led us here.
We worked hard at being the best. It only required 12 people OR product volume to make $600 NOT 64 as originally stated in the comments earlier.
Its the same as if a business went through financial hard times. and closed. This was a legitimate business model and could have pulled out with the correct leadership.
@Ex-Wun
Yes, recruit affiliates to make money… just like every other pyramid scheme.
Sorry, what was your point?
You can’t resign from something that is no more.
Nice try, but we’re not talking about pyramid structures.
WUN had no significant retail activity, making it an obvious pyramid scheme. Case in point, marketing spiels like: “Get x (affiliates), earn $x”.
Selling products to recruited affiliates, who also sell products to affiliates they recruit, who sell products to affiliates they recruit… Yeah, totally not a pyramid scheme.
Look up product-based pyramid scheme chief. There’s a reason WUN generated massive losses – they had no significant retail activity taking place and the pyramid scheme commissions killed them.
Irrelevant.
Irrelevant.
And they gave it to those who recruited. So you did take it.
At least own your thievery.
So what do you call running out of money then?
Wow didnt expect the mention haha flattering…before slandering my name you should learn if people in my team made money, and God knows I helped…
What happened here is something that happens to more than half of businesses in the country, they go out of business when their vision wasnt executed.
@Mike
No legitimate business generates a ton of sales and goes bankrupt, not without something shonky going on.
In the case of WakeUpNow, the shonky was the lack of retail sales and affiliate-heavy recruitment-based compensation plan.
Why is that Rick? All that would show is there’s affiliates under them who didn’t make any money.
Someone at the bottom of your pyramid scheme lost out. And you’re responsible.
a lack of significant retail activity and affiliate-heavy recruitment-based compensation plan opportunity imploded.
All pyramid schemes collapse. WakeUpNow is no different.
Everyone had the same opportunity, If I made money, they could’ve made money had they put in the same work as me.
I left WUN sometime in October and so did my team when we learned how to Day trade, so nobody I know was affected by this and I sleep good at night.
That you made money is not the problem, how you made it is.
That is by ripping off people you recruited who couldn’t find anyone else to recruit.
couldn’t find anyone else to recruit. Got it.
Well, except those you and your team conned into WUN who didn’t manage to recruit anyone. But don’t let that get in the way of your “success”.
“That you made money is not the problem, how you made it is.
That is by ripping off people you recruited who couldn’t find anyone else to recruit.”
I “Ripped” them off by giving them an opportunity to make money lol ok….its Funny, its not “Ripping” them off if they go out an make money right? but if they’re lazy and do nothing I’m “Ripping” them off.
Your argument doesn’t make any sense and never made any sense.
You’re telling me in a world with 7 billion people, where millions turn 18 everyday and are eligible to join a network marketing company, people “couldn’t find anyone else to recruit”…give me a break man…
theres no such thing as “couldnt find someone to recruit” in this world, thats like saying you can’t find 12 ants/stars/grains of sand.
If someone in my downline recruited just 10,000 of the billions of people in this world, or sold them a case of Thunder Energy Drink (which people still praise and believe a company can revolve around it), they’d make well over a million a year.
Please tell me again how I “Ripped” them off?
recruiting them into an unsustainable pyramid scheme. There’s nothing funny about it.
And dismissing your victims who failed to recruit others into the scheme as lazy is just low.
Not to somebody who made money in the scheme and is in denial, no.
WakeUpNow’s business model and compensation plan is not unknown. You know full well what it is.
Pyramid scheme excuses 101 do not trump basic mathematics. You recruit four, who recruit four, who recruit four… etc.
Furthermore this tired scamming logic is flawed. Not everyone on the planet wants to participate in a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme. Infact the vast majority of the Earth’s population don’t.
That’s why you and your buddies moved on when you found there was nobody left to recruit.
Let’s not waste our time discussing your fantasies shall we.
Those 10,000 would have to find 10,000 etc. etc. Somewhere down the line someone would get ripped off and it’d be a direct result of your recruiting people into an unsustainable pyramid scheme.
No retail? Scam. There’s no explaining your way out of it.
In the real world, WakeUpNow was a recruitment-driven pyramid scheme. Rick Almeida participated in said pyramid scheme, ripped off those at the bottom of his team who failed to recruit and is now evidently in denial about it.
Those are the facts as they stand. That is your MLM legacy.
You say no retail, yet we had Thunder in stores…we had customers buying cases…
again, your argument doesn’t make sense but I see I can sit here all day with you so imma let you be. Have a good one laughing at companies failing, true american patriot you are.
Maybe, just maybe, there aren’t as many vulnerable suckers you thought there were.
Could it possibly be that WUN was so transparently bogus it was even more unsustainable than the usual garbage Rick Almeida sells ???
Obviously that paled in comparison to affiliate recruitment, otherwise WUN wouldn’t have gone belly up.
Come on son, you’re only mentioning retial now (via vague anecdotes) because I brought it up. Everything up until now was about “your team” (of recruited affiliates).
Oh it makes perfect sense. If you’re not selling products to retail customers in MLM you’re doing something you shouldn’t be.
Man up and own your scamming Rick. The excuses won’t get you anywhere in life.
if you were selling cases of thunder energy drink to real consumers, WUN wouldn’t be going bankrupt.
your posts suggest it is all about recruitment, recruitment , recruitment and making money from recruitment rather than sale of the products to real consumers.
inspite of your long experience with ‘MLM’, it seems you have not bothered to study the space you work in. read up on amway and koscot case law, to understand why WUN is a product based pyramid scheme. this may help you stop blabbering.
uh, you sold thunder through store formats competing directly with your distributors? who’s grand idea was that ?
Hands up retail customers who are upset they can no longer purchase WakeUpNow products!
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*crickets chirping*
oh look, people who aren’t or never were in WUN asking if theres any left..
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“if you were selling cases of thunder energy drink to real consumers, WUN wouldn’t be going bankrupt.”
They failed, just like Blockbuster failed and couldn’t go on any longer. Nobody is denying the company couldn’t stand on its own legs, but calling it a Pyramid Scheme when there was valuable products being sold is ignorance…
Yu guys can believe what you want to be honest, people in WUN who lost money and are crying right now are crying because a company failed and thats life (look up statistics on how many companies actually succeed in any niche) , not because they think they got scammed into a pyramid.
Yes, people who “have never tried it” looking for firesale discounts, as desperate ex-affiliates try to offload their recruitment commission qualification inventory surplus.
Cut the crap Rick, you and I both know that’s got nothing to do with retail sales in WakeUpNow.
Blockbuster sold a service to retail customers. WakeUpNow had no significant retail activity taking place.
Do not try to compare pyramid schemes with legitimate businesses. It’s a waste of both our time.
you and your team ripped them off by suckering them into an unsustainable pyramid scheme. Grow a pair and take some responsibility for your actions.
it’s not about the ‘products’. the product may be a half drinkable bottle of something, who cares.
HOW the product is sold, and WHO consumes it, are the chief questions you need to answer.
WUN mainly sold products to commission earning distributors, who were buying, to earn those commissions. fail.
So who bought the drinks? And where did the money go if they lost like 15 mil in past 3 years?
Clearly it went to people like you, the top affiliates, since the people at the bottom didn’t get it.
So you are willfully blind toward the whole situation. And you are near the top. Don’t claim **** flow downhill. You got paid.
Had a weird feeling about WUN from the get go. The so-called savings didnt live up to all of the hype. One had to pay more to be part of the travel club/membership. Something just didnt sit right even during the corporate hq video tour.
Then, news started to surface about the money they were blowing through. Guess, there were those who wanted to believe everything would turn out right even though they were on a sinking ship.
I don’t doubt there were insiders who knew it wouldn’t last, but needed to keep up the facade for whatever reason.
After Len Clements dug deep and published his scrutinizng report, the writing on the wall was pretty obvious by then.
there is a document from the court on all of the complaints against WakeUpNow
dropbox.com/s/nyxz1kv0zy5rhd8/Complaint%20Part%201.pdf?dl=0
Apart from making up excuses for WakeUpNow, Dooly’s lates video mentioned Cochran split with WakeUpNow due to bankruptcy fraud in an unrelated venture.
Why wasn’t any of this disclosed to WUN affiliates at the time? What else are they hiding?
Dooly claims WUN US is terminating its MLM operations and focusing on selling WUN products themselves.
Lol, why were they competing against their affiliate-base in the first place?
oz, this requires a write up i think. this document was filed on 27th day of January, 2015.
it marks the beginning of the judicial jugglery, WUN will lay out, to get out of their pyramid financial mess.
blamegames and courtgames, let the WUN FUN begin !!
WUN is done…
omg, what a masterful performance by troy dooly.
like a bigbear scolding daddy, covering for the company just the ‘right’ amount, blaming the company just the ‘right’ amount and ‘cuddling’ the hurt affiliates just the ‘right’ amount, and talking them into sleep — just forget about your money now, go play somewhere else tommorow, and make it whole for yourselves! why worry?!
Let’s just say Dooly’s credibility never really recovered after the Zeek hit. Now everybody looked at his various announcement with a jaundiced eye.
Thanks for the heads up Freddy. Hadn’t seen this out in the wild.
@anjali
I agree, I broke it down and put my thoughts up – https://behindmlm.com/companies/that-free-thing/wakeupnow-file-70-million-lawsuit-against-kirby-cochran/
I’m sorry to hear the news. I remember how WUN reps were promoting WUN heavily on Instagram last year; and then not so much the last couple of months.
Now I know why…they weren’t getting paid.
(Ozedit: Spam removed)
Logan trippy shippy lol.
I saw a video of him being high not too long ago when he was younger, he was a fool and people still believed these kids…
I have a feeling they are full of lies, why would they keep charging peoples accounts if they are not paying their reps?? For Kirby, the guy who looks like that evil doll called Chuckie ruined the whole company..
Makes complete sense..
Tough to feel sorry for all the idiots who fell for this scam.
Pyramid clubs and their paid shills have been around as long as, well, the pyramids. Can’t talk sense to the get-rich-quick idiots, though.