Rippln to resurrect initial recruitment model?
A phoenix is a mythical bird that, upon dying, resurrects itself from the ashes of its former self.
Rippln went down in flames last year, following the revelation that the company had failed to secure new investment and was being sued for trademark infringement by Ripple Labs. More thermo-nuclear apocalypse than phoenix, nonetheless and despite months of non-communication and evacuation orders from top affiliates, Rippln now appears to want to resurrect itself.
Well, at least if a recent affiliate email is to be believed.
The email, which places the blame on the tired “we’re doing something ‘that has never been seen and something that has never been done before‘” excuse the company loves to trot out, was sent out to Rippln’s affiliates sometime in the last twenty-four hours. Signed off on by “Rippln HQ” (Brian Underwood?), the email proclaims
Rippln is still in business. We continue to pour a lot of investment money into the company, and our employees are still coming to work everyday.
Rippn (sic) continues to put a lot of resources into development, support & streamlining this unique business model. We have NOT shut our doors at all.
This statement is in direct contrast to what Rippln co-founder Jonathan Budd sent out to his downline last month, claiming that
Unfortunately, Rippln lost it’s financing capability to keep going in the Fall of last year, and without proper financing there was no way to continue to build out the technology to get it to a mainstream worthy product.
Whether or not Rippln has secured new investment and whether or not Budd is still involved with Rippln is not clarified in the email.
Going on to address the lawsuit, which was recently settled, the email states
Over the last 6 months, we have been in a lawsuit with Ripple Labs, as many of you know. The lawsuit was for a trademark and the use of the name Rippln & Ripple.
We have been in Stealth Mode since December when papers were served and the process of working with Ripple Labs to settle this began.
Our attorneys advised us to limit all communication until we could settle the suit with Ripple Labs, Inc. We have finally come to an agreement with Ripple Labs and will be updating the Rippln Community with the details in the upcoming weeks.
I noted that a Standby Order of Dismissal had recently been filed in BehindMLM’s coverage of the infringement suit, indicating that a settlement had been reached. Whether any money has changed hands is unclear but, as part of the settlement, “Rippln” and its branding would appear to be dead (and not coming back).
What followed next in the email immediately set off my alarm bells:
Rippln is currently working on a Re-Branding Strategy. We have been in many discussions over the last 4 months with potential investors, partners and companies that wanted to acquire Rippln for what we have developed.
Through this business development phase of the company, we have made a decision that we are going in a direction of a Re-Branding strategy & Business model revision. This will be in alignment with what created the 1 million-person community in the first 100 days.
Rippln is currently streamlining the business model to create a more simple, efficient and powerful way to execute the original Vision.
We will be updating all 1.5 million Players & Fans in the next several weeks on the forward direction for the Vision & Mission that we all got behind so passionately.
Uh, the same “original vision” that was an out and out recruitment driven pyramid scheme? What on Earth are these guys thinking?!
There’s a reason that initial model was scrapped, and it’s because all you had to do was pay your fees, recruit others who paid their fees and get paid. Sorry to break it to the 1 million people who might feel passionate about the model, but legitimacy wise it’s not going to fly.
As accustomed to the process as all Rippln affiliates should be by now, they are told to wait because ‘there will be some powerful releases over
the next 60 days‘.
We too will be waiting to see what comes next, so uh… stay tuned for the next chapter in this trainwreck I guess.
Footnote: My thanks to BehindMLM reader “Angel” for providing readers with the email communication in its entirety.
I’m not sure this email can be construed to really mean anything including a return to the original comp plan. But if it isn’t just a massive chain yank I don’t claim to know what it is.
First off there’s a elasticity with the facts that’s both dishonest and self serving. The lawsuit was filed less than two months ago and not the six that was claimed.
What’s the difference? Well when they’re pretending the lawsuit was the reason they stopped talking it would be inconvenient if it was pointed out that they stopped talking to the field weeks before the suit was even filed.
The lawsuit is being used as a convenient excuse in another way here. Focusing on it draws attention away from the problems of their own making. App Share isn’t paying and Ripple Labs had nothing to do with that. They don’t address this in the email and if a solution was forthcoming it would have been a bullet point.
The message also states that Rippln stopped charging people’s credit cards “a month ago” but it’s clear that doesn’t mean they didn’t bill for last month. Do they mean they will refund the charges they already billed? I’ll look for evidence either way.
But all told, paying people to drive free app downloads is as close to their “original vision” as they ever claimed to have accomplish. And they ain’t accomplished the paying for them part yet.
I took that from
The original vision, the one they presented at their bHip meetings to get the early recruiters on board was the model I initially reviewed. I can’t recall whether they yanked it within the first 100 days but it was definitely the spark they used to light the fire.
Afterwards you had the mess they ploughed on with. So I take it they’re going to ignore legal advice and attempt to resurrect that initial model. Otherwise I don’t know how else to read the repeated emphasis on the “initial vision”.
It’s just that this isn’t a group that’s well comprehended by taking them literally.
(BTW, it was IZigg, not bHip)
There was a time when the vision and the dream had yet to be sullied by the futility that followed. People were excited, people had energy and no one had noticed yet that Brian Underwood never had a workable plan for bringing that dream into reality.
That, I think, is the “original vision” Brian wants to restore. The innocence, the optimism, that naive pliant gullibility that had hotel conference rooms filled with smiling people falling over themselves to give him both their praise and their money.
Now most of those people feel ripped off and think he’s a schmuck. If he does have a conscience, it probably stings a bit.
“over the next 60 days” (Or whatever time frame the crooks over at RIPn set) is as reliable as other favorites – “The check is in the mail” and “just the tip”!
This ridiculous excuse for a company couldn’t hit water if it fell out of a boat – let alone formulate a strategy.
Want a RED FLAG to focus on before even THINKING there’s a glimmer of a chance they could pull off a re-anything other than failure? “We will be updating all 1.5 million Players & Fans” THERE’S your Red Flag! There isn’t, wasn’t, and NEVER WILL BE 1.5 Million of anything in the scam formerly known as Rippln – besides FAKE / COOKED numbers!
Put me on record right now. This turd CAN’T and will NEVER be polished!
It’s an obvious strategy. They will create some new business and market to their current users. If they convert X % for Y $ they make some amount of money even if the new business fails, they cash out on the backs of the ignorant.
The original vision and mission was to create something unique, something not done before, something that would reflect their true skills as business leaders, something that would make people talk about them and give them the attention they truly deserved.
So the “Vision and Mission” worked exactly as described. 🙂
Jonathan Budd quit Rippln months ago. It was never announced officially, of course and I guess it never will be! I wrote to him via his Facebook wall and you can see his reply:
I think it’s also good to point out yet another truth…
You can’t RESURRECT something that wasn’t alive to begin with.
Smoke -n- Mirrors and Vision Casting doesn’t count!
RIPn HAD the growing nose from lying – but stayed the Pinocchio Puppet without ever having become a real live boy!
Ah, but it WAS alive, only not the way people have assumed.
Most people have (naturally) assumed Rippln was set up for the long haul. A genuine MLM company designed to be around for years.
What if, as some suspect, Rippln was designed to recruit as many members and make as much money as it could in as short a time as possible.
What if it then deliberately set out to shake off as many not-fully-committed-to-the-cause members, by giving implausible excuses for non delivery of promised services until it was left with a membership which had self qualified itself as willing victims for a “round 2” of new fees and charges.
Why would anyone give Rippln the benefit of the doubt bybelieving any of the stories about new finance, new partners or a new direction when virtually none of its’ previous announcements bore any resemblance to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”
I don’t think Rippln can come back no matter what investment they get because they have lost confidence. Once people lose trust not with all the tea in China can they ever come back.
All the Fans and Players lost more then money they lost face to all their family, friends and contacts not to mention they were fooled by the con and now they want a second chance. No thank you Brian Underwood, Michael Rutherford and the rest of the pack.
Littleroundman has the right of it:
Why should we believe that any company would be interested in investing in Rippln or Rippln 2.0?
No company is going to invest without proof of execution: what does Rippln have to show? A mediocre game app, some scammy coaching programs (one from a guy who lies about having a neuroscience degree) and a mediocre chat app which duplicates the functionality of SMS.
Their business model is based on “eyeball engagment” but the social media and download numbers for their apps show very little to no engagement. It’s certainly not worth investing money in.
In fact, the App Craze/App Share business model which they claim to be unique and “never done before” is the one they used a third party for, one that had the connections and software infrastructure to pay for app downloads (Applift.com). Not that unique after all!
To put it in perspective, the highest numbers Rippln achieved for “engagement” was in April of 2013, when Chriss Voss, a well-respected investor, ran a news piece on his blog pointing out the scammy history of Rippln’s partners and that HQ’s address was a fire station.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rippln&date=2%2F2013%2013m&cmpt=q
Current social media numbers are less than 1/800th of April of 2013. Does anyone honestly believe there are investors?
Weekend at Bernie’s!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_at_Bernie's
The Rippln Chat apps have been removed from both the Apple and Google app stores.