Bob Roberts dead, Options Rider withdrawals discouraged
Bob Roberts was the public face of the group of scammers behind the BancdeOptions and Options Rider Ponzi schemes.
Purportedly operating out of China with a low-key US presence (top US investors were given speaking positions within the company), Roberts’ contact with Options Rider affiliates was typically over the phone.
Options Rider held no affiliate events, nor did Roberts ever appear in any recorded video footage (to the best of my knowledge).
A combination of running out of funds to pay off investors and regulatory actions saw Options Rider well on its way to collapse late last year.
Now, in an effort to revive the scheme, Bob Roberts has been killed off, investors are being “encouraged” not to withdraw and promises of riches are being made.
Health problems and death go hand in hand with Ponzi schemes. Typically when a Ponzi scheme collapses, the owner or owners blame its demise on a death in the family, if not the death of the scammer running the scheme itself.
The latter has been touted in Options Rider, with a recent affiliate email claiming Bob Roberts is dead.
Due to stress and overwork, Bob Roberts had a stroke and took several trips in the ambulance in Shanghai, China.
He was hospitalized for 3 weeks in October and due to his lifestyle and the pressure associated with working with Options Rider, he passed away a few weeks ago.
Another Options Rider ringleader, Michael Sloan, is also out:
We have since removed Michael Sloan because of lack of communication with our clients.
Sloan did a runner months ago, with Options Rider affiliates left in the dark as to the status of the company.
As for Bob Roberts death, whether Bob Roberts as represented through Options Rider exists is up for debate. My thinking is it was probably a generic pseudonym, with the individual or individuals behind it having now also done a runner.
This is based on Options Rider’s banking problems, which I believe are the primary reason the scheme collapsed.
We had a wonderful Q1, Q2, and Q3 but somewhere during Q3, we had issues regarding our bank accounts. Some were frozen, some were released back to us. Some were flagged and most were fine.
That was a huge blow for us.
In an effort to elude authorities, Ponzi schemes by nature launder large amounts of money around the world. If a scheme takes off, this inevitably attracts the attention of regulators (if not the banks themselves), who in an effort to avoid personal liability shut down suspected accounts.
That’s what happened with Options Rider’s accounts, leaving the company unable to pay off its investors.
Rather than admit this however, the affiliate email sent out instead blames Options Rider affiliates for the collapse.
My lawyers and my connections with the Australian banks told us that it was mainly due to the complaints of our clients.
Having multiple clients who just had technical issues with their account and were impatient, they called their banks and put a huge target on our backs.
We paid out thousands of people millions of dollars but a few rotten apples ruin the bunch.
Along with death and disease, investor blame is another excuse commonly offered up by Ponzi scheme operators.
The email sent out is signed off on by Bishop Lee, an Options Rider insider.
Following a last-ditch effort to drive new investment into the scheme, Bob Roberts and Michael Sloan have made off with their squirreled away funds.
Bishop Lee has been left holding the bag, only there’s no money left to pay anyone out with.
Because of the unfortunate series of events and massive number of withdrawals over the last few months, we encourage our clients to hold off on withdrawals for the next 8 months.
This is a brand new year! 2016 started off with a few rough patches but we will pull through and continue making you rich! Hang tight for updates.
Sincerely,
Bishop Lee
Options Rider CEO
Reading between the lines and assuming Options Rider doesn’t completely collapse before then, I imagine we’ll probably see some investment incentives announced over the next few months (after new bank accounts have been set up in new jurisdictions).
Lee will skim how much he wants off the top and before you know it, Options Rider investors will be back at square one. Communication will once again go dead and that will be that.
Still think Options Rider is a legitimate binary options trading outfit? Good luck with that…
Chances are Bob Roberts is as real as Roman Novak.
damn that’s funny
That sure is funny!
The guy is a Knucklehead of all Knuckleheads.
There is no Bob Roberts. There is no Michael Sloan. Those names were provided because of the number of identical names that litter this earth.
Please listen to me guys….This is over. “AH-STA-LAY-VISTA ” BABY.
Stop the knuckleheads from taking more coins from investors.
Oz and Jeff,
You guys are right . They probably used different names to hide their true identities. But please take a look at the following entries and posts–
harrythehorse.asia/post/june-2012–youtube- Montenegro Estate Angeles City Philippines, Montenegro Estate 30 seconds commercial , Montenegro Estate Red Carpet Launch.
We may be dealing with the one and the same (Australian) KRISTIJAN KRSTC / KRISWORLD COMPANY in the OPTIONSRIDER review. The company KRISWORLD owner of the Montenegro Estate represented by Kristijan Krstc embezzled over a million dollars of buyers money.
He is believed to be in China according to authorities. Hope you guys keep us posted.
Thanks, Bob
Angels, and anybody else for that matter, contact me regarding anything you know about this guy. I’m willing to go to the wall to find him and get mine, and anybody else’s money back.
Thanks,
Charley
No trading more in April, the homepage is dead, that’s it with option rider, shit.
This is so wrong. I want at least the money that I borrowed to join OR. Greed is an awful thing.
What is your strategy so far. This is the 2nd time, I’ve personally been duped!!!
am with some members of a complaint with the police and the prosecutor on to consider now is done with funny.
Bob, Ive seen the posts in you tube. I saved the images of their faces for comparison and sent it to the Canadian Embassy in China and the Philippines together with my complaint.
They will be the one to contact me in case there there will be news from the financial and criminal authorities in both countries regarding these scammers.
I suggest you do the same with your embassies. You might be surprised how much they wanted to help.
What is the process suggested to proceed with authorities? I would love to commence an investigation and complaint. Thank you.
any News about OR?? does somebody have some more informations?
I mean the do trading but still nobody is answering any emails?
It is verified Bob Roberts a.k.a. Kristijan Krstc together with other Australian, Filipinos and Eastern European cybercriminals responsible for Options Rider are in Manila Philippines engaging with 24/7 Philippine Forex Laundering our money.
Please warn all your friends, relatives and other victims!!!!!!!!
Eve, where is this verified? What factual evidence do you have?
Seems ludicrous to believe that it would take 8 months before they could resume withdraws. Before that they spread a rumor that it is the banks that cannot keep up with the withdraws.
I was told that Ponzi schemes honor the withdraws of initial investors but then close up shop when the rest of the investors want their money. This seems to be the case.
What convinced me that the it is a scam is when I read that there is no Security and Exchange commission in New Zealand yet Options Rider claimed to be a member of such non existent organization. And what company refuses to answer emails?
Let us accept that we were scammed and better luck next time.
The only time that my concierge answered any of my emails was when I acted like I wanted to deposit more money. She ignored all other emails I sent. And Bishop Lee failed to reply when I suggested that his company has been mismanaged.
Since they are an offshore investment, I can think of no government agency that has any jurisdiction over them.
I believe that all of us had fair warning from our own bankers when we asked for a wire transfer to send funds to Options Rider. The bankers immediately spotted it as a fraud which is why I only sent the minimum amount, figuring on a longshot that just maybe I could get some money out of it before the conmen left town.
Johnny, Option Rider was formed to SCAM. The people you are talking to are all cyber-criminals.
Bob Roberts DID NOT DIE, He dissapeared. All these aliases were cooked up names Bob Roberts , Bishop Lee , Jacobs Kristien , Sam Perkins etc. etc…list of names go on.
List of On-line forex scam trading sites too. All points to sites owned by Kristijan Kristic who is the leader of an Australian and Filipino and European Cyber-criminals operating in Asia, now in the Philippines according to Interpol. Interpol wants them to stay in the Philippines.
Multiple Fraud cases are leveled against them by Commonwealth Bank of Australia. Their virtusl office Regus are soon to follow. At least two foreign embassies in the Philippines are teaming up with Police anti-cybercrime division together with Tax executives for illegal dollar source, fraud and Money Laundering.
They are on the run but no where to go. Some who got to contact these scammers were paid off just to stay safe in the Philippines. Sad thing is that their crime is still going on victimizing other people with their hard earned money.
So please Johnny, dont sound like your one of them. complain to the proper authorities in the Philippines if you really even care about your money. Fall in line like the rest of us.
We are just hoping to get our money before the authorities put them away for life. And Yes, Ive seen their records, pictures, location in Makati, Manila. I just follwed what the others did.
Its all in these posts : “Bob Roberts is Dead…” U.S. will be coming up with their own charges for mail, wire and bank fraud. Just dont know who made the complaint.
These leads might help you. facebook Xeah Faye Jacobs (not real name) but known wife of Jacobs Kristijan an alias used by Bob Roberts. Contact also Vicky Barbera and Robert Koop. They were also mentioned by Interpol for complaints coming from Australia.
i lost 2000$ in OR, and 179639$ the 7 october2016, but im not angry, then GOD will acting later against the authors Bishop Lee. and associates scammers.
Actually i investigate AEONoptions and CToptions to see eventuels problems, good luck to all of you.
It is October, Option Rider did not the paying out, start there, did not even get an answered email.
News????????
“Bob Roberts” and friends stole everybody’s money. Options Rider affiliates, most of which are embarassed to admit they got scammed, scurried off into hiding.
No news since then.
Hasta la vista money, for ever.
Regards… after reading this thread of emails, there is everything but hope, does anybody where can we file a case against this people?
we lost 5 numbers in investment with them. does anybody knows if there is an open case in USA against this people to add in? Thanks.
No case in the US AFAIK. This one’s long dead.
I lost all my money 🙁
Good news for Aussie investors at least – I received the following letter from Veritas Advisory via the Commonwealth Bank – where many of us deposited funds to this scheme (aka Fund options Australia).
For anyone interested, the letter can be viewed here. I have managed to find all email and bank correspondence regarding options rider and will be doing all I can to recover my funds.
drive.google.com/open?id=0B3eQclu_4wWYeXVkVmRfMGh3Y1g3WGlPUk1yVnZXb1VQZlE4
Tim will you and any other party that has been scammed by these fraudsters please call me (removed).
I am not a robot or a con! Susie
We can’t verify who you are so please don’t attempt to take the discussion offsite.
Especially if you’re targeting victims of fraud.
You can call me on (removed). I am wishing to help those victims in Australia. My email is (removed).
If you want to verify me please go to my website (removed) and see what I (and my staff) do for a living.
There is a reasonable chance to get all of your money back. Veritas have about a million dollars which they will split (less fees and legals).
Whilst it is good it is far from it all. I can show you a way to (potentially) get it all nett of what Veritas give to you.
If you’re going to pitch here, full disclosure please (fees etc.).
Thank you very much – I will provide costing and an outline of what we can do in about three hours.
Rather than pitch to an open forum….not knowing who you are…..I have spoken with my General Manager – Tom Jollye…and he suggests you call us (Ozedit: Attempt to take discussion offsite removed)
No full disclosure, no pitch.
BehindMLM isn’t a platform for you to solicit victims of scams through for your own personal gain. Especially if you’re not going to be upfront about the specifics of those gains (other than a 10% fee on claims).
You are being overly protective. You have lost a lot of money and there is a way in which to get it back. I’m not seeking to solicit victims. I am a well known advocate with a very good track record.
The question is not what are my fees… shouldn’t you be interested in what I can do?
We never charge any clients more than $3000 over 6 months for a job like this. So $500 (plus GST) x 6.
I don’t know how many will join in and I don’t know what the losses are. So the question of the fees is a moot point. So I’ve given you the top end…and hopefully it would be lower.
If that is the real Susie Bennell, her phone number and email address are on Facebook if you want to compare the contact info you edited out of her posts with that.
1. Yes, I am.
2. I haven’t lost any money to Options Rider.
I think we’re done here.
I believe it likely is the actual Bennell, I’m just weary of anyone claiming to help victims of scams that doesn’t offer up full disclosure.
Options Rider victims have enough information to pursue Bennell’s service offer if they wish.
I am Susie Bennell – and I too am sick of the imposters who try and part you from your money – when you have lost so much.
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I am surprised that no one has reached out. The whole price is cost and obligation free until they choose to sign.
Have people been badly burned (other than by the fraudsters) during this process.
I think it’s more that Options Rider was two years ago and most investors have likely moved on.
Wow….how many can afford to lose like that? Well we are not going away and if they do make contact I’ll be very pleased.
You’d be surprised. Often embarrassment outweighs financial losses. Especially if they’d recovered financially since.
Yes I understand the embarassment. Many of our clients confront that aspect.
I will wait and see