OneCoin demotes Kari Wahlroos, Frank Ricketts returns?
Amid rumours Kari Wahlroos had, despite keeping up appearances, effectively left OneCoin, today the company announced he’s been demoted.
Wahlroos joined OneCoin in 2015, after jumping ship from Wellstar.
The departure of Wellstar’s “No1 and the most successful leader” didn’t go down well, leading to a public spat between Wahlroos and Wellstar management.
Upon joining OneCoin Wahlroos was given a cushy position in the compensation plan. With a seemingly endless corporate travel budget, Wahlroos (right) was titled “Ambassador” and spearheaded OneCoin recruitment globally.
Wahlroos credits himself with hosting “466 events all over the world”.
As at the time of publication, Wahlroos has thus far failed to explain what happened between him and OneCoin.
Questions from OneCoin affiliates on Wahlroos’ social media profiles have gone unanswered, with Wahlroos stating only that he’s “out”.
After the brief disappearance of Wahlroos’ “OneLife Ambassador” Facebook profile, OneCoin issued an announcement confirming termination.
Effective today, December 4, 2017, Mr. Kari Wahlroos, will no longer serve the role of OneLife Network European Ambassador.
This news follows a series of reports issued on his activities as an independent marketing associate.
Due to consistent miscommunication and misrepresentation of the OneLife Network operations and strategy, the management team of OneLife has taken the unfortunate decision to demote Mr. Wahlroos from all his activities and responsibilities for the Network.
The company has experienced serious legal consequences, following Mr. Wahlroos’ behavior on and off stage, indirectly damaging its credibility and reputation.
While at first glance it might appear Wahlroos has been terminated, if you read again you’ll find he’s only been demoted.
Kari Wahlroos is not a complete idiot, he as much as anyone else can see OneCoin’s growth phase is pretty much over.
At present all we’ve got to go on is an unconfirmed report that Wahlroos has attached himself to DagCoin, a OneCoin Ponzi clone launched by a former investor.
Be it DagCoin or some other company, at the very least Wahlroos appears to be positioning himself to begin promoting something.
Three hours ago Wahlroos declared on Facebook, “after successful meetings in Manila – next stop is Dublin!”
Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of Wahlroos’ demotion however is his attitude towards it.
Wahlroos has been touting OneCoin as a gateway to riches for over two years now. Given he seems to have just lost access to that gateway, I’d say he’s taking it rather well.
Like its recent other high-profile departures, the problem for OneCoin is that Wahlroos knows too much.
OneCoin can’t stiff Wahlroos out of money as they might a lesser affiliate, because the likely backlash would destroy the company.
The only explanation for Wahlroos’ attitude that fits is his demotion hasn’t cost him much. In fact I’d even go so far as to say it paid off.
OneCoin has been very good to Wahlroos. Most of his earnings though are from recruiting (direct commissions) and an under the table salary.
Wahlroos probably has somewhat of a OneCoin point balance, although I don’t think he’s stupid enough to privately put any value on it. Had Wahlroos been making enough on recruitment commissions at the time of his termination, there’d likely have been an uproar.
Instead he’s gone quietly, which means whatever Wahlroos was making, he hasn’t been for some time. MLM “leaders” don’t go looking for greener pastures unless commissions dry up.
As to why Wahlroos is being coy about his departure (OneCoin have after all blamed him for regulatory issues), I think that’s likely due to a pay off (probably the same as Pablo Munoz and Pierre Arens).
Either that or Wahlroos spilling the beans would reveal mutual liability for himself and OneCoin.
In any event, Wahlroos’ demotion has seen OneCoin dig up Frank Ricketts again.
After selling off his The Opportunity Network affiliate-base to OneCoin in early 2016, Ricketts, was given a Black Diamond position in OneCoin’s compensation plan.
Ricketts made an appearance at a few OneCoin events after the sale, and then retired quietly to live off passive OneCoin commissions.
With those commissions likely dwindling, Ricketts reemerged at OneCoin’s recent Bangkok event.
In a peculiar speech, Ricketts was adamant on distancing himself from OneCoin management;
Last night, round about midnight, I actually accepted, after long talks, to take on the role of Global Network Consultant to and for Sebastian, and for all leaders around the world and for every member of OneLife, no matter where you are.
That is the role I’m taking on. [APPLAUSE]
I am NOT joining the company OneLife in management, administration or anything else.
I’m an independent individual with my own letterhead on my own personal company where in the past I have done a lot of consultancy work for various companies, also outside of the network marketing industry, and please make that very very clear that that is what this is all about.
Reading between the lines and given the timing, it’s pretty obvious Ricketts is Wahlroos temporary replacement. Towards the end of the Wahlroos demotion announcement, OneCoin stated it was working on a “newly developed program” that will grow “a new generation of leaders and network marketing professionals”.
Unfortunately whereas Kari Wahlroos presented OneCoin with a seemingly narcotic-induced level of enthusiasm, Ricketts has the personality of a sedated Santa.
The rest of the OneCoin “leaders” doing the rounds are nothing more than large investors in their respective locales, with OneCoin evidently unable to attract any well-known talent.
OneCoin’s (part) owner Ruja Ignatova remains in hiding.
I believe Ignatova’s last public appearance was the July, 2017, FAQ video, in which it was announced public trading was yet again delayed.
That was five months ago, with Ignatova not seen or heard from in public since.
The image where it says “approx 24 hrs ago” is a bit confusing. Somebody might think Ruja was recently seen..
It’s the original I used back in 2015. Recycling FTW!
– That’s quite a demotion. What’s the title for a representative who has no activities and responsibilities for a company?
A small “s” scammer, rather than a large “S” Scammer
Inconvenient Liability.
Gardening leave.
Someone named Moin Uddin posted this on ONECOIN-Onelife FB page:
@Oz
Just to make sure that people don’t by mistake assume Ruja was seen 24 hours ago, here’s another picture of Kari that you can use:
https://i.imgur.com/L9HSK2a.png
It’s from his public speech at Tampere, Finland, 18-Jun-2016
If anyone is tracking Ruja, her brother claimed on stage in Bangkok that he had a breakfast with her last Tuesday. On that day, he posted a photo from Sofia on his Instagram profile.
So another one bites the dust. What is Greenwood waiting for?
So does this mean ONECOIN is trying to transform into something that isn’t related to the digital currency.
Which could or would move them into a position to grab more funds from members and distance themselves from making REAL PAYOUTS at all.
Reinvent reboot restart!!
This looks like the perfect exit strategy to me for the top scammers leaders starting with the Steinkellers who left with probably 50 million in their pockets stolen from people several other now this whale scammer.
Seems to me the best way to avoid legal problems once all falls down.
What has happened to the Steinkellers so far, NOTHING! They’re enjoying their fortune somewhere on a beach while brainstorming their next scam in a year or so.
Watch Wahlroos fb!
People are sorry for the loss. Even Tom McMurrain lol.
The following blog reports unconfirmed arrests of 3 Onecoin promoters in Uganda and Republic of Congo being transferred to another (jail?) in Bunia:
SOURCE (Weak): congoaujourlejour.blogspot.com/2017/12/3-agents-de-one-coin-one-life.html?m=1
I couldn’t find anything online to further substantiate this so far.
It’s a win win. OneCoin gets to blame the “independent affiliate” for their problems,
and Wahlroos gets to jump the sinking ship.
Y’all have spoken! Updated the Kari Wahlroos photo so as not to cause any confusion.
@garden
Konstantin lives in Sofia, Bulgaria. Unless Ignatova was in the photo it doesn’t mean anything.
In some of his Facebook posts he wrote:
Booker T Washingtons What is your position now from company?
– Kari Wahlroos Nothing… I am out!
Sk Sekaran Vr vry shock !! But ur stil OL member , tats Great !!
– Kari Wahlroos No But have my coins…. 50 muo
…
– Kari Wahlroos They Let me Keep my coins
I guess he means that he has 50 million OneCoins, but of course he knows damn well that their “blockchain” is a simulator.
OneConExpert
– Kari Wahlroos No But have my coins…. 50 muo
So, maybe he wait to become billioner and left OL
-50 mil.coins x 20 eur = billion.
Interesting article and to see what this Unit will acchieve in the future.
google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/the-secs-cyber-unit-launches-its-first-fraud-case-targ-1820998879/amp
@CZ
is the coin now 20 Euro (post 19) as i no longer have accees to the dashboard.
@ cryptokill
Dealshaker shows this today: “1 ONE = 15.85 EUR”.
Thanks Melanie as I had not heard that it had changed.
I predict that they will increase the price before Christmas as a present to the Affiliates.
It is doesn’t cost anything after all. HA HA!
Today Wahlroos updated his LinkedIn profile on NOLINK://linkedin.com/in/kariwahlroos/
“Dag Payment Units” might be a rather vague reference to DagCoin which seems to be based in Estonia, according to the Facebook account with handle @dagcoin.
DagCoin?
Source: https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/dagcoin-review-onecoin-affiliate-launches-ponzi-points-clone/
Regarding the post itself:
I don’t know if Kari has at any stage been making commission money from OneCoin. Heck, I don’t even know if he has a user name / URL to hand out for new recruitees!
Kari has been preaching on larger audiences and pushing the local recruiters to recruit more wherever he visits. Unless he has been silently adding those recruiters to his downline, I would assume he has been given either a fixed sum/month or some percentage of the income.
Interestingly, that Gerlachreport again has some wild claims, this time it’s Kari Wahlroos is out of OC because he stole some millions from them.
Maybe Onecoin “leaders” want to look into the possibility of having the police help them get back their already stolen money that has now been stolen again? Sick! No matter if it’s true or not, this is a really bad crappy soap opera which will leave only victims behind and some truly wealthy people (on boats or in Ferraris).
In the article Gerlachreport is still pretending that Ruja is in Jail… I guess these are new invented stories to keep activity on their page.
It’s hard to say if the official story of Wahlroos kicked out because of his own faults is true, but I don’t think that he had access to hidden accounts of onecoin, or at least to the ones wich weren’t his business.
I dare say that this whole story is part of Kari’s exit strategy from onecoin, he makes a much better figure being kicked out instead of leaving like the Steinkellers.
Hi Ruja is not in hiding. She is entitled to a private life looking after her baby.
OneCoin has not put off going public. It is happening at end of 2018. Wait until then. The real coin is coming. Prepare for the big disruption.
Yes what we are looking at is the big exit strategy soap opera (Ruja can’t take action cause she got locked down, others get out for differen reasons, and so on).
I so much want to see the reaction of all those belivers, e.g. Ken Labine, after the ship has finally sunk.
Nah, she’s in hiding. OneCoin is in shambles and the founder is nowhere to be seen.
Sure it has. Original “go public” was promised back in 2015, “when 80% of coins were sold”. OneCoin has been delaying going public since for nearly 2 years and counting.
So what have OneCoin affiliates been investing in since 2014 then? Lolololol.
Heise wondering where is Ruja. But noo, she doesn’t have time to make even a minute long video for the Mastermind event his brother could show.
She is so busy with the baby. And she is so poor she doesn’t have money to pay nanny.
https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Das-Verstummen-der-Cryptoqueen-3908655.html?seite=all
@whistleblower
Well, she did manage to do a video right after the first immaculate conception birth, pay year.
She must be H*ll to live with, as her husband lives in Germany and she lives in Bulgaria.
With the millions she has stolen, she could care less about OneCoin/OneLife now and the members. Otherwise she would have been making videos/statements to calm everyone down.
Instead she is sticking Sebastian with the task, and making him the fall guy. He’s just too ignorant to realize it.
Well apparently he is in the DagCoin scam now. New message on his wall some hours ago stated that 8000 people joined in the only 3 weeks.
He’s heading towards the millions again. Same story different coin.
There, fixed it for you.
Estonia is apparently part of the EU and has enjoyed the benefits Of Europe but has bypassed it’s irresponsibility. What more do you need to investigate this serial scammer -another high performance car? A billion dollar holding and nothing done?
No wonder UK wants to leave this red tape crap-although City OF London police are useless as well.
Capitalism and now Trump –America?
I need help. There was a link to a video Tom McMurrain did on his YouTube channel where he stated that the reason why OneCoin was not doing business in the US was because it was a security.
It was a short video. If anyone has this link, please post it here or contact me via email. Thanks for your help.
this one?
youtube.com/watch?v=WvajEG3YnsA
That’s the one. THANKS!
A new “statement” from Kari – two hours old on facebook:
facebook.com/KariWahlroosPage/
The important bit from among the spin doctored nonsense:
and from his other page on Facebook:
Sounds that Kari was fired — at least partly — for not being able to follow the official scam script or for not having the patience to wait the official formulation of the scam script.
I think he miscommunicated at least the Golden Gate ICO affair when posting a FAQ on his facebook wall which he had to later delete (see this).
This was a handy excuse for getting rid of him if nothing else. On his part, he can paint it like Mr. Arens, that he was “mislead by the company”.
He was cetrainly one of the most high profile and charismatic scammers in OneLife. His departure massive damage to the scam especially at the time when Ruja stays hiding.
And where is Mr. Juha Parhiala? People seriously miss his skull cane and pimp-gangster charm, the ultimate hallmark of true crypto currency merchant and financial revolutionary. 😉
He cares about people! Give me a break the only thing this gangsta scammer cares about is people that put money into his pockets as fast as possible.
Since he worked in Wellstar selling bogus anti-wrinkle ironing machines with 24 month refill subscription where thousands filled their cave and garage with, he went onto to the Coin scams where he saw stealing bigger money was a faster way to fill his pockets.
They should really put guys like this in Jail and up till today I can’t understand why victims of OneLife haven’t filed personal criminal complaints against Juha, Igor, Kari, Udo the Steinkellers as the list goes on and on.
It makes no sense to attack the company anymore I believe only personal will help. Look in the country of Belgium where an ex politician is personally brought to court for promoting this scam and he will have a hard time escaping his responsibility if this story comes to an end.
baloney.
it’s just a well orchestrated exit strategy so he could move on to his next scam without any responsibility for the losses he caused to thousands of investors in onecoin.
he was ‘voluntarily’ fired, if there is such a thing.
so far, the award for the best onecoin dumping excuse goes to pablo munoz, who was ahem, hit by a dumpster truck enroute to a onecoin event! 😉
lets see if sebastian greenwood, jose gordo, muhammad zafar etc can beat pablo’s most creative excuse at the finish line!
Udo C Deppisch has also (in Facebook) told he is “closing this chapter and starting a new chapter”.
Yes it looks very much based on comments on his FB page that Udo is the next big name to exit the scam scheme.
Looks like he’s heading to Osaka Japan, more than likely to recruit his Russian/Japanese connection into the new gig he’s in.
Wondering when the other biggest nutcases from The Netherlands and his gang will leave the sinking ship as well and what explanation they will give.
What’s happened with onedream.team? Website down or deleted?
Ok,here we go again.
OL Newsletter:
mailchi.mp/54c7c08d5024/jxkey6m9c9-701138?e=a0e0b3336a
That’s online training that they claim to sell. If the teams would be studying together, they would buy just one ILP and all watch the same videos and read the same PDFs. They don’t even try to make sense anymore.
You looking way too deep into this – Thats like saying we all need one Cell phone. We can just gather around and use the same one. What fun is that and how does one grow the business?
You don’t want ONECOIN going out of business do you LOL!
Labine’s out. He’s deferring his OneCoin victims to Justin Hackenschmidt because he ‘will be applying 100% of my focus to this new venture for the next 90 days minimum‘.
Funny thing is Labine just came off a OneCoin “tour” across Canada and Ireland. Guess it didn’t go as planned.
yeah, udo has made a very blunt statement:
that’s it? he thinks all his victims don’t even deserve any excuse? at least kari made the effort to arrange for himself to be fired! but this udo chap is like wham bam thank you suckers. very shameless and non creative. boo.
who’s got ‘egg on his face’ now?
where’s the ‘sand in your feet’ scumbag labine?
labine is a loser, bigtime loser! on top of that he’s got egg all over his face. shame.
This is hilarious (but in a sad way) – how long has Labine been saying that Onecoin is superior to bitcoin? Now just “click” and he’s telling bitcoin is the future gold?
They shall fear that OC victims’ revenge could wait for them around the next corner and I hope it does, I hope they get what they deserve from both official and the victim’s side and that hey cannot run away like that, Gangsters. How can all that be real.
The godfather of all spotted a few days ago.
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1779260818750907&set=pb.100000010179527.-2207520000.1513082040.&type=3&theater
Eating with another Italian OC scammer.
Can you believe he’s referring to him as a legend in our industry. It’s just scumbags like these guys that make our network marketing industry look bad to the general public.
But at the end you have to stop feeling sorry for the victims too, as nobody files a complaint really. Seems like death sheep who want to be slaughtered and their money stolen.
Its funny reading his culty followers. Jeez, apparently clipart has magic power of those poor shmucks…..
They’re all bitching about the “fake news” behindmlm lol. What a bunch of dinks. God if I knew he was in Niagara falls on the 7th I woulda pushed him over. #missedopportunities
And Ken Labine also stated that “he’d never do anything bitcoin related” so Hes prolly gonna pump USI-TECH like everyone else….
I’d like nothing more than to get him put in jail i just dont think theres any appropriate Canadian laws out there. (Ozedit: threats removed)
Labile has quit actively promoting OneCoin and stopped making those funny braindead videos where he humiliates himself with his ignorance. But he sure as hell is still a believer, among with the next (and probably last) similar desperate apologist Igor Krnic.
It just seems promoting the scam doesn’t bring bread to the table any more.
He couldn’t respond to all the haters with the truth.
Reality really hits hard.
“future of payments” what a joke
So now the future is “bitcoin” gold.
Like many others see they could have just invested into BITCOIN all this time instead of wasting around trying to hype up ONECOIN and their promises and delays that never come true.
Someone need to out Labine on all his past ranting since he is moving on.
ALL of his BOLD Claims and lies he needs to be held accountable.
The problem with Latrine is he doesn’t have enough intelligence to comprehend his lack of it.
Every village has an idiot. He’s the one. Absolutely no point in ever trying to argue with him. Devoid of intellect and manners is a poor combination.
One can only hope that his down line become some upset with his puerile claims. He needs a spell behind bars and an asset confiscation order. Perhaps he’d then understand his level. Stacking shelves in Walmart.
WOW! He’s getting a promotion to stacking shelves? How exciting it must be for him to finally get the recognition he so richly deserves.
I do not know what to make out of this but this is from RTL Z a dutch business tv channel (Ozedit: link removed, see below)
@looking-g
That’s not this ponzi-Onecoin we are talking about here.
It that article they are talking about a chinese coin, which also translates to OneCoin, but they very recently changed the coin name to Lianke.
https://qz.com/1152564/the-hottest-cryptocurrency-in-china-isnt-bitcoin-its-onecoin-make-that-lianke-by-xunlei-xnet/
It’s Xunlei, has nothing to do with the OneCoin Ponzi scheme. Different company, same name for their altcoin.
I know still wonder what pipo the clown Igor E Albers has to say about that.
I noticed that Sebastian Greenwood has been awfully quiet of late, and Igor let it be known that he has taken a lesser role as they are going to regional directors. He still can’t accept that it is over. He will never admit this was a Ponzi from day one. It will be all of us haters that destroyed OC not it was always a Ponzi.
What these dolts don’t know is that the regional directors have now been setup to be the fall guys. Ruja out, Sebastian disappearing, all the major pimps out, and it is just a matter of time before the plug is finally pulled and this comes crashing down.
I think the only one left is Chris Principe, but of course he is not being paid to speak at their events nonsense. This is going to get ugly and very soon.
I saw that he was busy celebrating his birthday in Monaco with his friends. Better spend the money now before people start asking it back.
Well, If any Canadians here want to report Ken Labine for fraud.
securities-administrators.ca/aboutcsa.aspx?id=99
Thats the site. Now I dont know if you report the province he is in or choose the one you are in. Play safe and do both. I will.
Also, my terminology is dodgy at best but his crimes sound a lot like binary options fraud.
Expats in Cambodia reckon Parhiala might have purchased the Sharky Bar local establishment.
khmer440.com/chat_forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=54310&start=120
Can confirm. Article up shortly.
igor alberts and wife andrea cimbala hosted their onecoin ‘friends’ in monaco for their birthday party, showing off their ‘high life’.
ted nyuten and his wife of ‘business for home’ were also present.
ted nyuten has published at least 7 articles on his MLM news site tracking the success of igor alberts in onecoin, and hence helping him build his brand and downline.
i’m pretty sure he wasn’t publishing those articles for free, and suppose he ‘owes’ it to albert’s to fly down to monaco for his birthday. or is nyuten now getting paid to ‘grace’ occasions too? 😉
whatta pimp!
I can confirm actual gerlachreport OC article sounds like a summary of the latest bmlm oc-threads, IMO, LOL! 🙂
Where in the World is Ruja Ignatova?
Labile promised recently never to promote any other project with coin that is blockchain based. However I guess that means he leaves the door open for Directed Acyclic Graph based coins, like DagCoin..
Check out the screen caps of his recent Facebook posts. 😀
https://i.imgur.com/4wVVzMn.png
https://i.imgur.com/tSqOFz6.png
Yeah, got information Ken Labile is starting with DAG Coin. Of course nothing is 100% until confirmed by him publicly.
Maybe he gets another couple thousand dollars from his old believing downline, when promoting DAG coin to them. Or maybe Kari promised him a better deal and position.
I wonder how he sells this to his old downline after being all-in in OneCoin.. Funny to see.
Yes DAGcoin it is for all the runaway escape artists scammers such as Kari, Udo, maybe even the Steinkellers and Juha were involved more early stage and guided them into this next scam.
I wouldn’t be surprised many more of the top crooks have already positions and spots reserved there to move when it all collapses and having a downline ready day one that again produces millions for them.
The only way to stop these clowns I liked the word used Pipo by somebody for Igor. Back in his Organo gold days when he received his sword and jacket, many escaped at his trainings being decapitated by him swirling that sword stating OG was the best and there for ever to stay. Few months later he was in OneCoin.
Nobody was surprised to see Ted in Monaco at their party. What surprises me although is that when he organizes a European Direct Sales event, some of the top speakers and leaders that will be present at his event when you know he has been promoting and supporting the biggest scam ever in the history of our industry and by doing this damaging the image even more people have of what we do.
Incomprehensible those speakers take that invitation !
Maybe we all want to go one day visit Amsterdam Europe, that must be it. Don’t forget free airline tickets and hotels covered, must have been very appealing as well.
And in the end it’s all but a farce. Onto the next Ponzi lads.
Truly, there is no honor among thieves.
3 other coins are now being marketed in Ireland —DasCoin,PlatinCoin and Giracoin -mainly by defectors from OneCoin but I am separately being advised that these do not have authentic verifiable blockchains–Like OneCoin.
Apparently Kari’s wife’s family live in Irewland and that is one of the reasons he visited here quite a lot so we can expect DagCoin in the Emerald Isle soon-what is the status of their blockchain—see 76 above.
Is there any published analysis available on these and indeed the other 3000 coins that are supposed to be in existence?
I reviewed DagCoin months ago. It’s literally a 1:1 clone of OneCoin.
well, kari’s doing his best to get all the onecoin crooks into dascoin, and has boasted on facebook :
onecoin fertig, heil dascoin. the king is dead, long live the king. etc.
Onecoin has no blockchain!
Anytime you want to see if a coin is legit go to any of the big exchanges.
Polonix, bittrex…
These REAL exchanges are not going to risk their reputation on scam coins that claim to have a blockchain.
Its like you never see penny stocks on the stock exchange.
^ @anjali I think you mean DAGcoin not DasCoin.. 😀
Well, both are MLM coins..
omg now these crooks cant even think up distinct unique names!
they’ll have to run around saying – i’m doing dagcoin with a G, not dascoin with an S!
The phrase “honour among thieves” assumes that there are “thieves” and there are “victims”, and the thieves avoid stealing from each other alone so they can better concentrate on their victims.
But in an active Ponzi scheme all the thieves are stealing from each other right from the get-go.
No honour in a barrel of rats either.
So lets launch a SCAMCOIN with the purpose of fighting back? LOL no.
OMG what a chance …loooll
OneLife proudly presents: The first ever OneLife FLASH SALE!
mailchi.mp/392e3aefe870/jxkey6m9c9-701141?e=a0e0b3336a
see 80 above
I know that these coins are not publicly traded -Like OneCoin but is there away of verifying whether they have a valid blockchain?
Bjorn was able to do this for OneCoin so I assume this can be done for DasCoin, Giracoin and PlatinCoin.
Is there a direct straight forward reference /source which confirms this basic test?
it’s amazing how most of the responses [on FB] from affiliates to kari’s dumping of onecoin and joining dagcoin, are along the lines of – cheers! how do i join?
^^these are the guys who made money under him and will follow him to his next scam.
his victims barely have the guts to confront him and their posts remain unanswered [or deleted?]:
instead of addressing the concerns of his victims, kari declares:
..and kari smoothly gets on his new train with a wave and a kiss and nary a guilty thought.
Now Kari says that Onecoin closed his accounts.
He had 50 million coins right? That’s about 800 million euros lost!
Strangely he seems to be ok with that…
it is not 800 k—it is nothing and that is why he is ok with that!!
He already has millions in commission so why worry about delusional money -just agree an exit and move on.
All we have to do ins maintain the internet memory on Kari database if and when he ever gets arrested.
Seems like Mister UDO might be going for this one too: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10210863835740358&set=pcb.10210863837580404&type=3&theater
He was spotted at a meeting of the TheCryptoGroup TCG. Posing with distributors outside and inside the room of their event in the Philippines.
The new scam has landed.
Bjorn was the one who was interviewed by OneCoin, no? I doubt other scams have made such a stupid mistake to involve a real expert to their playground.
TBH there are few problems to prove the nonexistence of a blockchain (that also Mike Rowland faced in his blog):
1. By the philosophical fact the burden of proof is to prove that something does exist, not that it doesn’t exist. (Google for Russell’s Teapot).
Therefore it is very hard to prove the nonexistence of a blockchain that – well – doesn’t exist. It is very easy for the scammers to prove that it DOES exist and unless they do so, everyone should assume the blockchain does NOT exist.
2. Mike caught the clear disconnection between the actual actions taken with OneCoins and what OneCoin said was their blockchain explorer (such as being able to “mine” coins at the time no blocks were mined for the blockchain).
If the other fakecoins do not provide blockchain explorer, such an evidence cannot be gathered.
3. Any of the evidence like Mike gathered is in the end easily nullifiable by the scammers by just saying that the blockchain info in the web “is not full information“, which means the proof becomes incomplete.
And once again it would need the scammers to prove that they do have a blockchain, not others try to prove they don’t.
kariboy is being trolled on his FB page and it’s a bit funny!
yesterday, kari the proud new promoter of dagcoin, proudly announced:
this invited a flurry of comments:
^^looks like some of his onecoin victims are finding some humor in the situation as a balm!
o kari kari, you look stupider than stupid. every new ponzi train you clamber onto will just keep stripping off your credibility and dignity. such a pitiful joker of a scammer!
Which role plays Konstantin Ignatov, the brother from Ruja, now? Is he the new “CEO”? I found this new video from Thailand:
youtube.com/watch?v=PDEJJsSZUCo
His facebook-account:
facebook.com/konsti.keks
Konstantin has been standing in for Ruja since she disappeared in June/July.
He was clearly higher up than her from that video where she cracked the shits at the investors asking questions and deferred to him.
For whatever reason Konstantin was happy being shadow management, but since Ruja disappeared and OneCoin recruitment collapsed has decided to enter the public eye.
he looks like a somewhat dumb bouncer of a local nightclub. must be the coffee boy for the mafia running onecoin from bulgaria.
lil’ konstantin seems too dumb to be the boss.
He does appear to be another self-absorbed millenial, but when Ignatova couldn’t answer those two investors he is who she called in.
Maybe she just called him in to muscle the investors out. There was after all no audio for that part of the video.
It looks to me from the body language in that video that he was called in as a bodyguard.
He is definitely self-absorbed, but not stupid, check out his instagram: instagram.com/boogeyman_k_/
@Garden: What was it on his Instagram that impressed you about his intelligence? The showing off his muscles, the Rottweilers, or the rather wonky amateur photography?
Kari’s “Lets TaKe the World ! And This time… properly !”
Really sounds like
“Let’s fuck the world! And this time… straight in the butt!”
@WhistleBlowerFin
I found this on facebook:
share-your-photo.com/img/965e121dc3.png
This morning Onecoin increased its coin “price” from €15.85 to €20.75 LMAO!
Market cap is 120 billion coins (20% more than Ripple) at 20 x the price of Ripple (the most transactional cryptocurrency in the world, already adopted by many banks).
They claim to “mine” 72,000,000 coins a day. Therefore 72M x €20.75 = €1.494 billion. In USD that’s $1.77 BILLION in value creation A DAY
In other words, at the wave of her magic wand, Ruja Ignatova and company decided from henceforth, and as of this morning, they’re creating am ADDITIONAL
$418,166,784.00 DAILY, DAILY value, moving forward!!! PURE FANTASY ISLAND!
This is now more than 25% more money than even the United States Federal Reserve is capable of minting!
@ Timothy Curry
Don’t wonder! I can confirm: Rujamama works very excessive every day – 24 hours nonstop and 365 days every year! Easter and Christmas included! An investigative journalist shot this photo from her:
share-your-photo.com/0453f6b2e1
That’s the finally proof… 🙂
And not a single “Whoop” about that more than 30% jump from you and Oz’s old buddy.
As predicted OC increases the price /value of the Coin despite only 53 k Traders on Dealshaker. No of members stalling at just over 3 million despite goal of 10 million for year end.
Ignatova at last year’s Xmas party targeted the Coin at 25 Euros so that is possible as the “COINS” are worthless. You cannot lose on OneCoins as they don’t exist
Meanwhile nothing about the public offering –remember that. Ignatova disappeared ,leaders defected, money being laundered.
The future of Payments -really????
That 53 000 could just as well be 53 million. The counter has zero connection to reality.
You can go to Dealshaker and count the amount of open deals from left hand pane. Sum up the category totals – there are less than 12 000 open deals.
Out of the alleged 53 000 merchants more than 3 out of four simply never have created a single deal to the market place. Not even one.
Merry Christmas to one and all!
Only a fake or a real sign of life from Ruja herself?
share-your-photo.com/img/d7ad48dd9e.png
Best joke of 2017! The picture looks like made with poor photoshop skills, probably the foto of Ruja is an old one.
@ Santa Maria
Yes, I think the same. I found this video from September 2016: The same dress, the same necklace and the same earrings:
share-your-photo.com/54f6a24f39
Source: A fake-“interview” with Mariana López de Waard (“Black Diamond”): youtube.com/watch?v=y28BIu0A4IY
This picture is at least one year old. The same picture has been used twice before on the Facebook page of @onedreamteamofficial.
2 January 2017:
NOLINK://facebook.com/onedreamteamofficial/photos/a.334855103534556.1073741837.331131833906883/377034092649990/?type=3&theater
30 January 2017:
NOLINK://facebook.com/onedreamteamofficial/photos/a.334855103534556.1073741837.331131833906883/392389227781143/?type=3&theater
24 December 2017:
NOLINK://facebook.com/onedreamteamofficial/photos/a.334855103534556.1073741837.331131833906883/547116875641710/?type=3&theater
Zero proof that it is Ruja’s message.
OneLife Newsletter
mailchi.mp/e5cf1e499483/jxkey6m9c9-701149?e=a0e0b3336a
All the same BS as in the previous newsletter, except that this time they have Christmas ornaments!
Well and also this:
If there will be anything sensible for sale for the face value of the coin, THAT would be a huge surprise! The OneMillionShop cars have been the best joke so far – the euro part of the deal already equals to the sales price without taxes…
…and the cars are sold without taxes.
@Otto
Lol. We all know OC is A Big Joke from day 1.
Ill keep on posting these idiotic newsletters as long as OC/OL is still around. Hope it want be long now.
Saw a lot of resemblance to Kari, Sebastian, Juha and Tom. They must all be related to her somehow. Possible cousins, uncles, brothers separated at birth?
poor kariboy is under attack on FB by despairing onecoin affiliates, but he’s not taking any responsibility and giving silly excuses:
even after the macau event in may 2017, when kari claims to have started having doubts about the company, he continued promoting it heavily and getting paid by onecoin to be it’s ‘ambassador’.
he must have been paid Big if he wasn’t making any recruitment commissions as he claims, because he was living the high life and buying expensive cars.
whether he was ‘not recruiting’ and only ‘promoting’ the scam doesn’t change the fact that he convinced lots of people to invest in onecoin and make losses.
i was just the hired help ruse doesn’t work kariboy, you shameless scummy scammer.
Latest news she was hit by a cement truck but the truck lost.
Top scammer and hypocrite Kari Wahlroos:
Yes indeed, luring in other people and getting commissions always worked perfectly.
Yes indeed, OneCoin is not a cryptocurrency, it currently only has a blockchain simulator with fake transactions.
@anjali
Well, Ruja’s “disappearance (ie., escape/ runner? incarceration? Mafia hit? …or as OneCULTists/ Disciples may actually believe: ascension into heaven??) reminded me of Macau too, and the infamous Onecoin “whitepaper” which had been announced and (3 years too late, but nevertheless…) promised to be debuted in Macau.
While Global SCAMbassador, Kari Wahlroos, was still pocketing money bags of clearly stolen Ponzi funds, hand-over-fist, and breaking in the fine leather seats of his McLaren (or any of the other three “supercars” his admirers had collectively handed him the keys to within just the previous few months) …I’m sure he would have been happy to put on his sunglasses, grab a camera, invent some Bullshit and do a massive rail of bouncing powder (which allegedly got him red carpeted to the emergency room in Lisbon), and come up with a proof (of non-proof) that Ruja’s fine by reading a letter which she herself had just “hand delivered him, herself,” back-stage. ….reminiscent of his pathetic, “Ladies and Gentlemen, ….We have the WHITEPAPER!!!” AS SEEN HERE: m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=6MjkOYszSS4
In other Onecoin News, Igor Krnic, Site Administer for “onecoin-debate” online pseudo-debate sect (from which I’ve been permanently banished); and someone who appears to have direct access to janitors who once spoke with Ruja, or whatever, seems to think Sebastian (Greenwood) will soon be following suit:
^^^”Scam Detector,” Ari Widel, had just released an update as to some of Wahlroos’ recent Facebook posts:
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kusetukset.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/wahlroos-claims-ignatova-disappeared.html?m=1
The plot thickens.
Meanwhile, Chris Principe’s alternative Twitter account: @ChrisPrincipe1 is returning the message, “The account you are trying to view has been suspended.”
OneForex is finally opening, with new education packages on sale for the OneLife members. Turns out contrary to the hype, OneForex is purely an educational site, where you can practice trading in simulated environment. You can’t do real trading there.
https://oneforex.eu/en/
OneForex has partnered with SmartHub Ltd, which is a licenced broker registered in Vanuatu, to where they hope to direct people to trade with real money. Smarthub Ltd doesn’t currently have a public website open:
http://www.smarthubfx.com
Yeah sorry, meant to put out something myself when anjali posted yesterday.
Did an office refurbish yesterday, still catching up.
No shame:
So uh what, friends and family who watched the Labine’s Ponzi implode are all of a sudden going to want in on the second?
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
What was it Labine used to say, egg on his face or sand in toes?
Mate, that’s not an egg the OneCoin chicken dumped on your face.
What absolute lowlife scumbag Labine is! I hope he doen’t get any suckers to follow him into his next scam!
the oneforex domain is registered to ruja’s mother veska ignatova, with a sofia address, and was last updated on dec 19th, 2017.
selling educational packages on oneforex is just another attempted reboot of the onecoin scam. with no talk of IPO or ICO, they probably needed something new for leaders to sell for commissions.
btw, igor alberts and his wife andrea cimbala were in sofia, bulgaria, around the 20th of dec, 2017. wonder who they went to meet? i think the handful of top leaders left in onecoin are helping the steer the course ahead for onecoin, as there is no official management left.
the smarthubfx domain was registered privately on 28th april, 2017. IMO it’s another shell company in the maze of offshore dummy companies set up by onecoin. if anyone is dumb enough to send any money in to smarthubfx for ‘trading’, they’ll probably get a ponzi ROI if they’re lucky or lose their money.
these are just last ditch attempts by whoever is left in onecoin to pinch the last penny from the public.
i don’t see oneforex recruitment surviving more than a few months. the onecoin dead horse and been kicked into pulp and juiced too. nothing much left there.
There’s a certain irony to OneCoin switching from ICO to forex and USI-Tech from forex to ICO.
Affiliates on either side would do well to look over the fence at the failings of both.
the shameless ken egg on his face labine is being careful with his new scam. he doesn’t want ‘haters’ all over him asking uncomfortable questions.
so he’s going to promote his new scam via zoom calls which will:
i guess labine realized stomping across the internet promoting and defending scams doesn’t work out too well, as he ended up getting his ass kicked blue when he did that with onecoin.
this time he’s keeping ‘haters’ at bay:
we know you love free stuff labine. you love your free money stolen from friends and family to feed your pathetic ass life. you can live rent free in my mind, with your wispy character and zero weight integrity, you don’t occupy any space at all!
Don’t underestimate the power of the OneCult! In the darkest cornerns of the Earth, they are even forming roadblocks to spread their Gospel.
Ruja has not disappeared, altough not physically available anymore, She continues to live in the hearts/farts of OneLife memebers. She is gone so that OneLife could live eternally! In the Gospel of Ruja, it says:
“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of Ruja.” (Ruja 19:24)
She went away with their money of so that they could find redemption from their greed and to spiritually evolve.
Anyway,
Happy New Year to all those who have been fighting to expose OneCoin over the last year and it looks as if it will not be around in any meaningful term in the next year.
Lte us hop that the authorities actually get arounfd to arresting the leaders and upline in all countries and that people like Wahlroos are put away for along long time.
For those of you who are just hoping it will come good if you keep quiet don’t disillusion yourself any further. contact the authorities and make formal complaints -two and a half trillion Euros liabilities and worthless assets.
Actually all you need to do is to recognise you were duped and try and get some of your hard earned money back.
Kari promoting DagCoin:
facebook.com/KariWahlroosDAG/videos/554428828238812/
I hope there will be more articles about DagCoin at behindmlm.
My former friend became a close associate in it, after jumping from OneCoin. I don’t want to publish his name tho, due to my misplaced loyality I guess.
We’re not exactly on speaking terms after he continuosly tried to “pimp” OneCoin to me and has not tried to “pimp” DagCoin.
But his facebook feed is hilarious. His videos with him being pumped and excited and his emotionless “followers” chanting together “It’s all about you!!!” A comedic cult.
If DagCoin goes anywhere we’ll cover it. For now nothing much has happened since launch, other than the mass OneCoin defection.
@Kari
Two months to the launch? Launch of what? DagCoin already launched in mid 2017.
Don’t tell me we’re in for another few years of endless failed launches. I know DagCoin is a 1:1 clone of OneCoin but come on guys, even Labine isn’t that gullible.
Actually there is heavy promotion in India and other Asian markets.
Also problably Egipt, cause my “friend” posted a pic with pyramids behind him (appropriate I think 😀 )
And there’s an event coming in Estonia with Kari himself: facebook.com/events/159698131315115/
Poster of the event: scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26055763_552854345062927_6591928612311724206_n.jpg?oh=068dfc4b06d298c234530c17aba4035c&oe=5AC69E5D
in a video on his FB page dated 31st dec, 2017, kari wahlroos calls himself the ‘Mighty Eagle’ and declares that since he wants to do things right with no compromises, he’s gone and – That’s why I made my own company.
i don’t know about Mighty Eagle, but he looks Mighty Silly in his flowery tshirt over a pot belly, flailing his arms around pretending to be an eagle! 😀
i think he is a part owner of dagcoin and has anointed himself the CNO [chief network officer].
it seems he has been in negotiations with dag university for several months before he got ‘fired’ from onecoin, according to this dag university announcement on dec 17th, 2017:
according to alexa rankings, daguniversity has been dragging it’s feet since it’s launch around july 2017. from around december onwards, we see a sharp rise in the ranking corresponding to increased recruitment.
alexa.com/siteinfo/dagcoin.org
kari has proudly announced that 50,000 members have joined up in the last six weeks. so, it seems he’s brought in most of his onecoin team and will start touring and promoting dagcoin heavily in 2018.
the top major sources of traffic to dag are sweden, the US and india.
dagcoin is a clone of onecoin, and onecoin stopped it’s ponzi business in the US fearing regulatory intervention. in india, over 30 onecoin affiliates were arrested and it was labelled a ponzi scheme.
so the Mighty Eagle should keep his ass out of the US and india, unless he wants to be flailing his arms in a cage.
@anjali
A very good source shared information linking Kari’s recruitment into Dag by Juha himself. I believe Parhiala is a major investor/ silent owner, as well.
On the subject of Ponzi investment/ silent ownership, in late 2016 another source who had a few good leads check out, implicated that there is a major financial/ funding connection between Onecoin let players (both at the highest levels and “behind the scenes”) with Skyway Capital.
That trail didn’t lead anywhere that I was able to solidly uncover or document, but it seems that starting a Ponzi is big business.
As seen in Onecoin, as a perfect example, “new school” Ponzi Schemes require sophisticated design, planning and often grooming of characters.
What I find dangerous about Dagcoin Ponzi, besides its alleged backers and growing “leadership,” is that it’s modeled after IOTA, a real and promising technology based on Directed Acyclic Graph (AKA: “Tangle”). And it’s NOT “blockchain” based – albeit technologically similar, cryptographically speaking; and “Explorer” enabled for search functionality.
A key feature of IOTA’s iteration is its “partition manageability,” meaning that since nodes in the network “verify” previous transactions behind it in order to execute a transaction of their own, they can “park” stagnant outside of the chain (or “Tangle Network) without having to “reenter” until needed; or indefinitely. This is why IOTA transactions are fee-less (100% free) and don’t require mining.
One difference I do know about DagCoin is that DagCoin will charge a small fee per transaction (I believe it’s 0.005 DAG). So it isn’t a 100% ripoff of IOTA. But I’m unclear of how the coins are generated.
At the beginning of December IOTA absolutely skyrocketed and it, hypothetically, could be a real competitor, transaction-cost-wise, to bitcoin and other cryptos.
Dagcoin likely qualifies As a ‘quote’ “REAL” ‘unquote’ cryptocurrency – albeit an obvious MLM pump and dump scam coin at the same time.
The worrisome part will be that instead of using Bitcoin’s sensational rise (like 100% of MLM scam coins do) they’ll use IOTA coat tails and will loudly tout their “better than blockchain” technology to their newb to crypto victims. Kinda genius, frankly. But sinister.
A small thing to add – DagCoin uses the Byteball platform, a direct competitor to IOTA using the same technology.
Its unique selling proposition is going to be that the project is actually posted on Github, and solely on grounds of this fact it is going to be presented to the technically illiterate masses as “revolutionary”, “innovative” and “100% legit”: github.com/dagcoin/dagcoin
So… like OneCoin then.
on bitcointalk a thread about DagCoin was started by Sergio Demian Lerner on sept 11, 2015:
sometime in 2016 lerner stopped working on DagCoin and moved to another project.
bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1177633.0
in july 2017 nils grossberg [ex onecoin ponzi promoter]launched the presale of dagcoin. he hired a company called ignite OU of estonia to develop the DagCoin for him and write a whitepaper based on lerners initial draft.
i don’t know how things work in the crypto world, but can grossberg just pick up the name and concept of ‘DagCoin’ [introduced by lerner] and run with it?
what started out as a serious conversation on bitcointalk back in 2015, about dagcoin and it’s blockchainless tech, has deteriorated to comments like these from july 2017 onwards [when daguniversity and nils grossberg took over the dagcoin name]:
dagcoin was not launched on exchanges in october 2017 as promised, the launch has been postponed to the second half of 2018. till then grossberg and his new partner kari wahlroos would have raised a lot of money from the public for their ‘revolutionary’ new coin.
i wonder if the crypto world knows that dagcoin is out of the hands of it’s original developer and in the hands of a ponzi crook now?
Anjali:
The Byteball authors released the code to the public under a free software license, and therefore anyone is legally entitled to make derivative works, as long as they respect the license conditions: github.com/byteball/byteball/blob/master/LICENSE
The license they are using in this case is extremely loose.
Making a copy of a project and then developing the copy independently from the original one is called “forking” — this is only tangentially related to the idea of a fork in the blockchain sense.
Forking a free software project into another is definitely allowed and legal; it is useful to do so in some circumstances, and the original authors certainly did permit it on purpose; this is even a prerequisite for the kind of software we are speaking about. But of course, since anyone can fork a codebase, crooks can as well.
The real question here is whether the fork introduced some substantial value or all the innovative work was done by the original Byteball people; I have not checked that, but I would be very surprised if dagcoin were technically interesting in itself.
By the way, if that were the case, the dagcoin code could be forked again into some other project, as it is also free software, using the same license.
Parts of it could even be legally re-imported into the original Byteball codebase, and the original authors have not “lost” control of their project.
this is a recent twitter conversation with lerner about where dagcoin is today:
hmmm ‘scam’ with a ‘copy pasted’ whitepaper?
who’d have thunk it? 😉
i guess when sergio lerner decides to work on dagcoin again, he’ll have to change the name because of it’s ponzi infamy.
So Ken Labine use 500 OneCoins to buy his fiance an engagement ring??? But isnt the real question really “How much REAL MONEY did you spend IN ADDITION to the garbage Onecoins you so generously handed over???”
This is classic LABINE. Meanwhile he has moved onto DagCoin it looks like… Pitiful this guy will now will steal more money from his follower…
Facebook post below from the Scammer Labine …..

Ken Labine Lets chat bro, back when I first talked to you about this back then you were saying same thing meanwhile the coin value has went from 1.05 to 20.75 since May 1, 2015 … ;)
ALSO!!! I used 500 OC to buy my ladies engagement ring so regardless if we listed on a crypto market or not that is hosted by a third party cant deny just how real OC has became :)
Most people in crypto currency are excited to use it or hang onto the appreciating value assest, not sell it for devaluing fiat currency too but we discuss this more in person :)
Lets get together for Coffee today bro, do you work?
Love the last question. Do YOU WORK… Um…most peopel do Labine because we dont like SCAMMING INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!
@anjali
I’ve read the topic you are referring to. As I understand it, the name DAG means “Directed acyclic graph”: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph
So basicly Byteball, IOTA and “DagCoin” are in the DAG family. The topic also states that it was only a concept or a thought experiment.
How “DagCoin” actually came to be is not known to me but I’m sure work on it didn’t start in 2015.
@FromEstonia
1. Correct
2. Many cryptos Are forks of bitcoin or other cryptos with slight variations and changes to algorithms.
For instance, Verge (XVG) picked up algo’s from Dogecoin Dark and tweaked it a bit, adding some code from a few other coins As well.
So, it appears that Dagcoin was an abandoned open source project which Dagcoin founders picked up and Are now running with. Due to open source coding, shit coins can simpl steal code and rebrand.
thanks for all the useful info guys.
nils grossberg did not even change the name ‘DagCoin’ coined by sergio lerner, probably to retain some legitimacy by association.
the ‘new’ dagcoin attempted to start a conversation on bitcointalk on nov 25, 2017, announcing:
yeah, they lost me at ‘universe’.
these are the promises made:
hmm, public exchange by feb 2018? is that the ‘launch’ kariboy talks about when he says – launch in two months!!
anyway, that new dagcoin bitcointalk thread hasn’t attracted any interest. which is telling.
i’m pretty upset that anyone can steal crypto code and add a potato and a fork to it and then run around screaming that they’ve invented the best coin in the ‘universe’.
so i wrote to github asking why they’re encouraging conversation and work on a pump and dump ponzi coin promoted by known scammers.
but i guess github only discusses tech, and not how a coin is marketed or whether it is a scam.
anyway complaining is free so i did it! 🙂
kari wahlroos on FB, 10 hrs ago:
so, kari thinks onecoin might not be publicly traded?!
and he’s worrying about ruja’s safety? has he been reading the gerlach report or has he sourced his suspicion from somewhere else?
@anjali
Wow! I forgot that this was a project Lerner had worked on originally!
Sergio Lerner is an absolutely amazing computer scientist and architect who was contributed to Bitcoin Core since 2011, finding and debugging several early security flaws, etc.
Lerner is now Chief Scientist for RootStock (RSK), which essentially brings all of Ethereum capabilities, Smart Contracts, DAO’s, and DaPPS, etc to the Bitcoin blockchain. In fact it’s the most excited I’ve been about a product launch since IOTA, itself.
This also reminds me that what Lerner created through the original Dagcoin actually DOES include “blocks;” whereas IOTA’s project figured out how to eliminate them. So, that’s why there’s still going to be transaction fees in Dagcoin pump & dump scam.
I think I’ll message Sergio and let him know the kind of people hijacking his technology!!!
This was inevitable, but still the cringe level is over 9000…
Dude got lashed out at just because he didn’t want to get pitched on Labine’s latest Ponzi under the guise of catching up.
This is how you destroy your circle of friends and family people.
Hopefully my report to The authorities about Ken Labine won’t go ignored. He’s lucky Canada’s a big country.
I’m also researching if I can get him federally. I’d love some jail time for him.
yes. what a greedy low life.
ugh. i can imagine this meet up at shanks. labine egg on his face talking nonstop and bullying his friends to join his latest scam, with his friends not able to get a word in sideways.
don’t think many of these guys will show up at shanks to meet labine ever again! 😉
am i reading this right? is labine saying his friend bought $8000 worth of plagiarized onecoin education from him 3 years ago, and now has $996,000 worth of useless onecoin ponzi points which he cant encash anywhere?
sheesh, i’m surprised his scammed friend turned down his invitation for a meet up quite cordially, and didn’t kick his ass!
It’s actuslly schanks. I left a bad review on their FB about hosting “investment fraud” dinners… they should know their customers. And also should care about the others.
Don’t get me wrong, if I ever get screwed financially, I hope it happens at Schanks too.
I also made sure my yelp review of schanks included ponzi fraud and Ken Labine.
github has responded saying their team is looking into my report:
if more people write to github reporting that dagcoin is a ponzi scam, they may kick it off their forum!
awww, looks like ted nuyten of ‘business for home’ is not being paid by onecoin/onelife anymore.
he hasn’t even put onecoin/onelife on his list of top 100 companies for 2018:
yet, just one day before on dec 31st 2017, ted nuyten published an article about igor alberts and andrea cimbala earnings millions from onelife every month:
i guess igor and andrea are paying ted nuyten directly now, to advertise their personal success and help them scam some more.
this disconnect between eulogizing igor&andrea’s success in onelife, yet keeping onelife out of the top 100 list for 2018, attracted this comment from a confused reader:
errr, not political agenda, with ted nuyten it’s more like a backpocket agenda. you slide some money in his backpocket, and he will strip dance for you!
I saw someone ask why OneCoin wasn’t on the list, the next day the comment was gone.
In Germany we would say: The dream of the onecoin-payment-“revolution” eats its children – and the (expensive!) dream turned into a horrible nightmare.
So I’m totally in a back and forth dialogue right now with the Alberta Securities Commission about our main man KEN LABINE!
I am supplying all the links and info and I let them know that hes starting again and wants “to get as many of my Edmonton friends and family in from the start on this one”.
If that doesnt light a fire under their butts nothing will. Also said that Alberta seems to be a ponzi scammer paradise and no one takes them seriously.
He didnt mention anything about an alert yet for USI-TECH but I’ll just keep forwarding anything new I get. So if anyone has more dirt on Labine and links that I can forward please let me know.
@ Dickie D.
Do you know this facebook-account from the IMA at OneLife, Ken Labine?
facebook.com/IMAatOneLife/
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I’ll look into it. but GOOD NEWS!!!! Schanks! I just talked to the owner…. NO MORE KEN LABINE ALLOWED!!!!! lol!!!! #littlevictories
Kari Wahlroos and his dagcoin travel plan. Thirteen countries – but I miss the United States:
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aha. that celebration of the good times they had with onecoin was igor&andreas way of saying – goodbye! see ya tomorrow with our new scam!
somebody left this comment on their FB page yesterday:
onecoin finis
In the past, we were told by the Canadian authorities that since they do not have a national SEC like the US, that each Province’s Securities Commissioner is responsible for violations in their Province.
If the scammer is not in their Province they can do nothing about it. If the person is in their Province they also have to have victims in their Province or they can’t do anything about him/her. Has this now changed?
Igor and his brother in law clown also n Dagcoin now, this is the death of Onecoin for sure as now all the biggest scammers have moved on. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156854622587699&set=a.10150485126402699.392341.756092698&type=3&theater
Wonder when some of these guys end up with a gun on their head in a country soon. Curious the story they will tell after having cheated, lied and stolen millions from other naïve participants.
@ scambuster789
Your facebook-link shows me only an error message:
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What’s happened?
And this one: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156854622587699&set=a.10150485126402699.392341.756092698&type=3&theater
Some of the pictures are put still on private, you can guess why. But on the latest pictures you see Igor, Kari, Iulian Cimbala, Kent Kruusmaa, al having done their tour in Onecoin now in Dagcoin. The story restarts allover again.
Im not sure if anything has changed but I sent in the link where he specifically said he wanted to recruit locals from Edmonton. So that would fall under the old rules i assume.
@ scambuster789
Many thanks, but I received the same error message. By the way:
I took a look at deadcoins.com and found there the OneCoin of course, but not the DagCoin. Not yet, but in the future?
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Hey there OneLife, its time to throw in the towel…
OL Newsletter: mailchi.mp/4478cc69733e/jxkey6m9c9-701165?e=a0e0b3336a
Evidence OneCoin recruitment was dead throughout 2017:
Now that there’s no money to be made, onto the next DagCoin crypto Ponzi.
So much for everyone being a millionaire in OneCoin points.
I think when KL talks about the 3 C’s Choices, Chances and Changes, he for sure means changing suckers and victims of who I will steal the money now. But hey he still believes in Onecoin, it’s the future of his kids.
Looking at all the pictures of the Estonian Dagcoin training, you see the same faces preaching Onecoin up till a month ago. But inside news tells us they were involved since months in Dagcoin and preparing the swap.
I think it’s a matter of time until the first of these scammers and crooks ends up with a serious beating if not more serious problems.
Time the governments get alerted about Dagcoin too. Someone that reported Onecoin to plenty of countries should send a repeat email now to the same people dealing with Onecoin. It’s early stage that might stop them from creating momentum at the start.
Heard rumors that almost 50.000 people already bought into this new gig. Unbelievable !
I was approached by a friend of a friend at lunch trying to recruit me into USI back in Sept / Oct.
After 2 minutes I was sure it was a ponzi and when I got home googled and came across this web site. Ever since I have been absolutely fascinated how many people get suckered into these things.
It absolutely amazes me the people that invest in these and swear up and down that they are not ponzis. Their ability to deny and deny is astounding. I really will never understand how they cant see through it.
It appears they go from one to another… so amazing.
This web site does good work.
Newest Bullshit For Homies article opens with this: “Recently, top leader Kari Wahlroos, former Global Ambassador of a crypto currency network, joined DagUniversity – DagCoin to become Chief Network Officer….”
No where is Onecoin mentioned in the article. Lol.
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Prediction: No more cotton candy Onecoin coverage from BS4H. Too risky – although fellow publisher, Chris Principe, may still be trying to milk a few bone(head), presuming any MoonLearning Gift Code channels still remain.
Coincidentally, those domains registered to TSG and Herve Lacorne were just recently abandoned and only the “hidden domain search” sites remain now.
In both cases, thankfully, the internet never forgets.
What happened?
His message was hijacked.
I think Ted’s check from Onecoin bounced because now this article: businessforhome.org/2018/01/onecoin-out-of-control-ruja-ignatova-disappeared/
and of course the reporting in a positive way for Dagcoin will start, as we have Igor and Kari involved. Probably they will take over the payments to spread the word.
This is hilarious, especially the bold text: 😀
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Im sure all of these people hired bodyguards a loooong time ago. Remember, those are professionals, they know hot to survive in this business, literally!
@Gary
that’s pretty much my story as well. only thing I got “introduced” to onecoin first, and later on to usi-tech by the same dude. Im pretty sure next time I see him he is bringing up dag coin…
This stuff really is amazing, and mind boggling in the highest degree. the human mind and its flaws are simply inscrutable.
@peterrenner95
Don’t wonder! Many people – OneCoiner and DagCoiner included – have left their tiny brain in the pawn shop.
By the way: Is this funny or confusing? Now Kari Wahlroos is OneLife-Ambassador and CNO of DagUniversity at the same time on facebook… 🙂
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This came in via email today: Kari Wahlroos arrested for speeding – auto.geenius.ee/uudis/kiiruse-uletamisega-vahele-jaanud-mclaren-720s-omanik-on-rahvusvahelise-petuskeemiga-seotud-arimees/
Millions in stolen OneCoin investor funds in Wahlroos’ garage…