DOJ seeks to notify OneCoin victims of crim proceedings
The DOJ has filed for permission to notify OneCoin victims of upcoming criminal proceedings.
The motion is pursuant to the Justice For All Act, which guarantees OneCoin victims, among other things;
1. the right to reasonable, accurate, and timely notice of any public court proceeding, or parole proceeding, involving the crime, and timely notice of the release of the defendant; and
2. the right to be reasonably heard at any public proceeding in the district court involving release, plea, sentencing, or any parole proceeding.
The problem before the court is that there are too many OneCoin victims to notify individually.
As laid out by the DOJ;
In or about 2014, OneCoin Ltd. was founded by two individuals, specifically, defendants Ruja Ignatova, a citizen of Germany, and Karl Sebastian Greenwood, a citizen of Sweden and the United Kingdom.
Although OneCoin Ltd. is based in Sofia, Bulgaria, the corporate entity was originally registered in Gibraltar on or about March 27, 2014, under the ownership of Ruja and a German attorney named Martin Breidenbach of the law firm Breidenbach Rechtsanwälte.
OneCoin Ltd. has claimed to have over three million members worldwide. The potential victims in this case include, among others, the individuals and entities who invested directly with OneCoin.
The Government is aware of thousands such individuals and entities; however, the Government does not know whether its information is complete.
Indeed, there are likely to be thousands of additional individuals and entities who invested with OneCoin, many of whom have not yet been identified by the Government.
Moreover, because of the international nature of the scheme, many, if not the majority, of the potential victims reside outside the United States.
The Government respectfully submits that it is impracticable to give individualized notice to each potential victim.
As an alternative, the DOJ is seeking permission to post a notice on the website of the the Office of the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
The DOJ’s motion was filed on April 15th. At time of publication a decision on the motion remains pending.
A particularly juicy takeaway from the DOJ’s motion is “there remain a number of charges pending against various defendants”.
This suggests previously undisclosed OneCoin criminal charges are yet to be made public.
Who’s on your “there remain a number of charges pending against various defendants” wishlist?
Interesting statement as the 9th or 2nd circuit affirmed in January 2021 that predominantly overseas fraud/unregistered securities etc is outside of the US federal court system, whereby transactions predominantly occur overseas.
That included US citizens (it was a decision based on a US citizen investing in a Bahamian scam that occurred in NY).
Guessing they are trying to use this as a battering ram to extend jurisdiction.
natlawreview.com/article/second-circuit-reaffirms-federal-securities-laws-do-not-apply-to-predominantly
Unregistered securities would be SEC (civil). The SEC hasn’t made any OneCoin filings.
OneCoin scammers are going down on money laundering and wire fraud criminal charges.
Interesting, obviously must have missed all the documents.
I’m surmising they operated in USD (US Corresponding Banks) or laundered through the US financial system?
Mark Scott did a bit. A lot of it was set up in EU with funds winding up in the Middle East (Dubai).
Ah, yes the lawyer.
Though – aside from him.
If they had not touched the USD or US financial system it would be interesting to see how the DOJ could conclude this case.
I often shrug my head in disbelief that these frauds target the US market where it’s heavily policed and just as heavily enforced.
Instead of concentrating on countries such as China etc.
Then there’s the question, should the US tax payer continue to pay the costs for the enforcements that conclude only a small % of impacted Americans, but mainly overseas citizens of jurisdictions that don’t enforce nor police.
The senior members of the network who didn’t seem to care that Ruja could go missing or that her brother could be arrested must be starting to worry.
I would love to hear the thoughts of Le, Jaymes, Gordo, Adeel, Calina, Hye and that slippery Vietnamese-Australian whose name I can’t remember.
The lawyers deserve a thorough wringing. Schullenburg, Gilford, Courtneidge, Breidenbach, to start with.
In Sofia: Valkova, Veska Ignatova and Dilkinska must be objects of interest
@Stevie
I assume you mean Thanh Duong (“Thanh OC”) from Adelaide:
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@ Melanie
That’s him! That creepy looking scammer makes my skin crawl. I mentally blocked his name.
It would be absolutey fantastic if he got picked up by the US.
Of all Crypto bros, Thanh Duong has to be the most reptilian one.
Oh, there were plenty of money laundering channels based/ Registered in USA, beginning as early as 2015!
“Wow wooow woooow” – Thanh OC
Thanh OC is my favourite ancillary character of the OneCoin parthenon of colourful scammers.
He churns out videos almost daily and his ability to speak for one hour without actually saying anything is remarkable, especially given the fact that OneCoin is essentially dead, so he repeats topics beaten for years now.
Hey Cositorto, is that you?
Thanh actually still tells people on his webinars, as late as three days ago, that if they buy a package, the Euro value of the purchase multiplies unrealistically. He will never be able to try and hide behind the lie that he was seeling education.
I hope he reads this: Thanh, you are disgusting, even amongst OneCoin promoters. And that takes a lot
Ted Nuyten supports every scammer – including Thanh Duong of course!
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businessforhome.org/2017/07/interview-with-thanh-duong-from-vietnam-onelife-blue-diamond/
Ted Nuyten must be a complete lowlife pos. Who would support a loser like Thanh?
Doesn’t Ted have an arrest and extradition record?
I’m not aware of Nuyten having an arrest record or extradition. Think that’s a miscommunication.
Bulgarian Interior Ministry announced OneCoin’s Ruja Ignatova is wanted by means of an European Arrest Warrant issued by the court in Bielefeld. She no longer has Bulgarian citizenship and is referred to as a German.
Google Translated
mvr.bg/press/%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8/%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8/%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0-41-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%83-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81
Hahahaha. Bulgarian authorities just palmed off their biggest Ponzi scammer in history to Germany.
Fucking useless.
Haha, Bielefeld didn’t exist!
wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_conspiracy
Anybody thinks Ruja is still alive?
I wonder if Ruja was really born in Ruse Bulgaria, how is it even possible she could lose her Bulgarian citizenship as the Bulgarian Ministry of Interior says? It shouldn’t be possible..??
behindmlm.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/passport-ruja-ignatova-onecoin.jpg
I think Bulgarian authorities just make it up as they go along.
They’ve been probably wanting to burn Ruja’s passport the second the US let them in on the indictments.
It seems if she was really born in Ruse Bulgaria, the only way she could be released from Bulgarian citizenship is that she asked for it herself.
When was this done, would be interesting to know, because it could imply if she is still alive or not.
bulgarian-citizenship.com/bulgarian-citizenship-act/#:~:text=Person%20who%20has%20acquired%20Bulgarian,does%20not%20remain%20without%20citizenship
Wouldn’t be a surprise either.. But it’s a bit much that they’d blatantly lie on the Interior Ministry’s web page? 😀
I’ll have to look into it tomorrow but I think every country reserve the right to revoke citizenship? There might be an issue only if it’s sole citizenship (can’t make someone stateless).
Ruja has dual German citizenship though so no issue.
I remember dual-citizenship played into TelexFree’s Carlos Wanzeler getting stripped of his Brazilian citizenship.
@WhistleBlowerFin
If foreigners have lived in Germany for at least eight years, they can also get German citizenship. Ruja attended a German school in Schramberg and studied in Germany. That was more than eight years.
With a German passport she was able to buy the casting plant in Waltenhofen. As a Bulgarian, that would not have worked.
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Germany, at least until relatively recently, was a single citizenship country, as in you had to denounce any other citizenship you carry in order to obtain German citizenship.
The Ignatov family might have denounced their Bulgarian citizenship when they migrated to Germany in order to obtain German one.
So how did Bulgaria cancel citizenship that didn’t exist then?
Or is this some PR bullshit because everyone goes “Ruja Ignatova the Bulgarian”?
If you lazy/corrupt/whatever fucks in Bulgaria did your jobs over the last 8 years you wouldn’t have this reputation.
AND THE ONECOIN OFFICE IS STILL OPEN AND OPERATIONAL IN SOFIA. HELLO?
Bulgaria tomorrow: We are proud to announce we have given OneCoin’s Sofia office “German territory” status. Not our problem now kthx.
Oh don’t get me wrong, for as long as the OneCoin office operates freely in the center of Sofia the Bulgarian government is complicit.
But as nothing in the press release says that her Bulgarian citizenship was revoked by the Bulgarian government, I presented a more plausible scenario.
I’m not even sure that the Bulgarian government has a legal right to revoke the citizenship of a person born in Bulgaria, but don’t quote me on that.
I realized I might have sounded a bit harsh.
The first two sentences were directed at you. The rest was for the Bulgarian government :D.
I’ll accept your apology in the form of 100 OneCoins so I can finally buy that sweet second hand fur coat from Mongolia I’ve been eyeballing on DealSheaker!
The UK successfully revoked the citizenship of Shamima Begum, a UK citizen who defected to Islamic State and then wanted back in when it collapsed. Despite her not having citizenship anywhere else.
So it isn’t totally impossible, whatever the UN may like to think.
Revoking Ruja’s Bulgarian citizenship may be legally dodgy (IANA Bulgarian or UN lawyer), but her biggest problem is the practical difficulty of appealing against it when you’ve been locked in a suitcase full of rocks at the bottom of the Danube for five years.
Or living permanently on a yacht under a new identity, which has exactly the same problem.
The German law for citizenship is very complicated. In exceptional cases, dual citizenship is also possible.
share-your-photo.com/a4b6361c5f
anwalt.de/rechtstipps/doppelte_staatsbuergerschaft
Whatever. Until Bugaria shuts down the OneCoin office operating in the centre of Sofia, this doesn’t mean dick.
I doubt a poor migrant family from the Balkans would qualify for any exceptions under the German law.
At least until very recently, you had to present a translated and notarised document stating that you have renounced the citizenship of your home country in order to obtain a German citizenship.
If I remember correctly, the UK claimed that they have a right to revoke her citizenship because she’s eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship by birth right.
Bulgaria is a “jus sanguinis” or “right of blood” country, meaning that as long as you are Bulgarian by “blood” you’re eligible for Bulgarian citizenship, I don’t know under what circumstances you might be deprived of your “right of blood” citizenship. But I’m not an expert, just talking from my arse here.
Bottom line governments can do whatever they want, twist the law as they want so who knows.
Perhaps her family fudged the documents to obtain German citizenship, god knows they are very capable of fraud.
wouldn’t it be hysterical if the German government withdrew the crime family’s citizenship?
Chances are that they lied at some point in the applications.
@Stevie
The crime family no longer lives in Germany and the German authorities are, as always, sound asleep.
Also: Björn Strehl married the Bulgarian Ruja Ignatova, not the German Ruja Ignatova. German naming law is clear.
After marriage, the woman takes the man’s name, i.e. Ruja Strehl. Ruja Strehl-Ignatova would also be allowed.
The German reports mention two Bulgarian women with German citizenship.
That narrows this down. We know one is Ruja. The other must be Mama Veska. Unless anyone knows better.
Why would she also be named?
bulgarian-citizenship.org/news/ruja-ignatova-bulgarian-citizen/
New article by Martin Himmelheber:
nrwz.de/schramberg/onecoin-us-justiz-will-opfer-informieren/342155
What lies does OneCoin scammer Thanh Duong spread in this video?
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Here Thanh Duong shows part of the roadmap:
youtu.be/YDIpFZczVZo?t=519
youtube.com/watch?v=YDIpFZczVZo
Short video from January 2018:
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youtube.com/watch?v=rsQeUr_8TxM