Veelive is a Harald Seiz MineBase Ponzi spinoff
Veelive has surfaced as a spinoff of Harald Seiz’s failed Minebase Ponzi scheme.
Before we get to Veelive though, we need to look at where MineBase is at.
MineBase emerged in mid 2022 as a Karatbars International recovery scam fronted by Russians. BehindMLM reviewed MineBase in June 2023, confirming it was just another MLM crypto Ponzi.
Seiz’s involvement in MineBase has remained shadowy. Instead of fronting Minebase himself, Seiz has hidden behind AI generated avatars.
The original MineBase Ponzi was built around MBASE tokens. MBASE has since collapsed and been abandoned.
In February 2024 Minebase announced new XON token packages. XON was set up on its own domain (“xoncoin.com”), privately registered on December 30th, 2023.
As of July 2024, XON website traffic is too low for SimilarWeb to track. MineBase is also dead, sitting at ~7600 monthly visits (77% of which originates from Russia and Ukraine).
Although MineBase’s website is still up, for all intents and purposes it has collapsed. MineBase abandoned its official Telegram channel and Twitter profile in February and March 2024 respectively.
This brings us to Veelive.
Veelive operates from the domain “veelive.net”, privately registered on April 22nd, 2024 (i.e. about a month after MineBase was abandoned).
Veelive presents itself as a “social media metaverse platform”.
That is to say, Veelive is your typical MLM crypto metaverse AI NFT grift Ponzi.
Participate in the Veelive economy through Metaverse Stock Tokens (MST). Earn annual dividends and a share of the overall metaverse profits by holding MSTs.
Since the original MST launch, Veelive has introduced VLT and VimeTokens. And, as of August 23rd, MineBase’s failed XON token has been relaunched.
I don’t see an MLM component to Veelive, but there is both “partnership” and “influencer” options.
Through Veelive, anyone with a social media following is given the opportunity to steal money from their followers through a curated crypto scam.
Brand Partners recruit influencers and get a cut of what they steal.
Heading up Veelive we have CEO Yana Seiz.
Yana has been with Harold Seiz since at least 2020 and they have at least one child together.
It’s unclear whether Seiz met Yana before or after he fled Europe for Thailand.
What is clear is Seiz is directly involved in Veelive.
Like MineBase’s and XON’s websites, SimilarWeb is tracking Veelive website traffic as dead. Such to the extent anyone has invested, they are likely to be Russians and Ukrainians rusted on from MineBase.
Yana being from Ukraine likely accounts for recruitment there. There is also a large Russian community in Thailand to build from.
Not expecting any significant updates, other than perhaps MineBase’s website disappearing at some point. Pending anything further happening with Veelive, we’ll keep you posted.
Oz wrote:
Yana Seiz has had a private YouTube channel with 70 subscribers since February 2023. She describes herself as an ICF Personal Growth Coach, Creator of Miracle Mechanics and Entrepreneur & motivational speaker.
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youtube.com/@yanaseiz
Her private Instagram account with 1,033 posts and 22,400 followers has existed since November 2013.
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instagram.com/yana_seiz/
An Instagram account veelive.official has existed since April 2024 with a location in Thailand, 35 posts and 546 followers.
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instagram.com/veelive.official/
A Facebook account Veelive Metaverse has existed since August 2024.
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facebook.com/VeeliveMetaverse/
Oz wrote:
I can’t confirm that. On the YT channel MineBase – Creative Token Production with 7,080 subscribers, there are several videos with Harald Seiz as the speaker. The last video with him was uploaded on February 13, 2024.
Harald Seiz says literally in this video:
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youtube.com/watch?v=xDzUS5-88pQ
@Melanie
That’s one of the AI generated avatar videos. I linked to it in the article as an example.
Apart from the janky face and fake accent, play the video and stare at Seiz’s hands. It soon becomes obvious.
I don’t think I’ve seen a MineBase promo video actually featuring Seiz.
@Oz
In Germany, the term avatar is not commonly used, but I have now read that an avatar can move its lips synchronously. That explains the misunderstanding.