Elomir CEO attempts to address compliance issues
Elomir CEO Van Nguyen recently attempted to address compliance issues on a July 11th “Team Relentless” webinar.
Unfortunately Nguyen missed the mark. She also doubled down on her husband’s crypto securities fraud.
Speaking on behalf of Elomir corporate, including company owner Terry LaCore, Nguyen revealed Elomir is currently operating as a pyramid scheme.
During the pre-enrollment phase of July, only distributors were allowed to enter in at $250.
And one box will be shipped sometime in the month of July. And of course the rest of the (ordered) product will be fully fulfilled, starting August 15th.
Nguyen blames product shipping delays on broken machinery. That’s fine, things happen and so are shipping delays as a result.
With respect to regulatory compliance, why not just delay the launch altogether? If you’re an MLM company only letting distributors sign up for $250 a pop – and you’re paying commissions on those fees – you’re running a pyramid scheme.
We have 6500 Brand Partners registered in the tree. Over 5000 successful transactions went through.
The ethical thing to do here upon realizing you’re not going to be able to fulfill orders, is stop taking money from people.
When you’ve fixed up whatever machinery needs fixing, then reopen – both to distributors and retail customers.
Nguyen goes on to reduce regulatory compliance as “rumors”, specifically how the FTC regulates the MLM industry.
I know that over the weekend it was kind of mentally exhausting for some of you guys, hearing about the FTC, the FDA. That I’m operating illegally because I’m not allowing customers to come in, and NAC is an illegal drug.
Guys, trust me when I say, we have a legal team that is backed by a billion dollar brand.
The FTC would only shut me down if I was illegally operating a business, that wasn’t fully disclosed about what was happening.
When we went public on July 5th, there was a discussion had, with the current leadership that was enrolled in the tree before it went live, and everyone understood that if we were going to go into this pre-enrolment phase, that means it was actually only open and limited to the three-box order for Brand Partners.
Thereafter, once we caught up on inventory, we would allow customers into the system. Because us as the owners, did not feel confident in taking money from your consumers and your customers.
And guys, that was fully disclosed and publicly announced in the ATM page called “Live Your Best Life”.
So will the FTC supposedly try to come after me and the company?
Guys, the only reason why the FTC pursues companies… for multiple reasons; one, are you doing medical claims in the field?
The second thing that the FTC looks for is are we screwing over Brand Partners and customers. And what I mean by that is are we not refunding them, or addressing the concerns that they have about the product or our opportunity.
That’s the only way the FTC will really pay attention, if our own customers or own distributors are reporting theft or fraud.
Are disclosure violations and “screwing” over distributors and customers on refunds potential FTC violations? Absolutely.
But it’s patently false to claim these are the only two reasons the FTC “pursues” MLM companies.
By and large, pyramid fraud is the primary reason we see regulatory enforcement initiated by the FTC against MLM companies.
That is to say, when an MLM company’s distributor order revenue outstrips retail order revenue.
There are additional caveats to that, which can alter the magnitude of alleged fraud (advertising, “screwing over” distributors and customers etc.), but at its core not having significant retail sales volume is a problem.
The FTC has been pretty clear about this in the past.
With respect to Elomir, 100% of sales revenue generated is attributable to affiliates. This means in turn that 100% of any commissions paid out are defacto tied to recruitment.
With not a single retail customer, Elomir is currently operating as a pyramid scheme in violation of the FTC Act.
Is the FTC going to come in guns blazing and shut down Elomir?
Probably not just yet. Like I said, machinery breaking down is a reasonable cause for delay and, while not the most responsible decision, soliciting Brand Partners isn’t necessarily an issue – yet.
Elomir have essentially backed themselves into a corner. If this drags on (for whatever reason), and retail still isn’t a thing months from now – that mess could trigger an FTC investigation.
One thing that might also interest the FTC is the motivation behind Elomir Brand Partnership.
In a legitimate MLM company, distributors sign up to run a business selling products to retail customers.
Here with Elomir there are no retail customers. Thousands of Brand Partners signing up for $250 without being able to actually sell anything to retail customers. All they can do is recruit.
“But I signed up for the product!” is also a very difficult argument to make, when product shipping is backed up for a month and you can’t sign up for the product without buying into Elomir’s business opportunity.
In their Vemma and Herbalife litigation, the FTC made it explicitly clear that distributors aren’t retail customers. This was challenged in court in both instances and the FTC prevailed.
The choice to not suspend business operations till product fulfillment issues are sorted out casts doubt on the motivation of Elomir distributors signing up.
Given Elomir is in “pre-enrollment” (what does that even mean with 6500+ Brand Partners enrolled), it’s a shaky foundation to build an MLM company on.
Somewhat disturbingly, Nguyen goes on to discredit and dismiss consumer complaints to the FTC.
There’s so many anti-MLM’er out there reporting every company. Calling them a pyramid scheme and doing all these things.
You think the FTC has the time to look at those complaints?
In researching Elomir, BehindMLM didn’t cite any pyramid scheme concerns. We also weren’t aware Elomir had signed up 6500+ distributors without a single retail customer either.
Elomir needs to either refund Brand Partners and suspend enrolment, or get this issue sorted and start taking retail customer orders immediately.
Moving on to the N-acetylcysteine (NAC) being a product in Axis Klarity, something we did comment on, Nguyen mischaracterizes current FDA regulatory guidance.
Our legal team is fully aware that the FDA is looking at NAC and possibly moving it to prescribed drug status.
No they’re not. NAC is currently an approved drug that can be bought OTC or prescribed by a physician. Putting it in dietary supplements is currently illegal.
If the FDA does nothing, the status of NAC being illegal to include in dietary supplements hasn’t changed.
As of April 2022 the FDA is looking at allowing NAC in dietary supplements – but as of yet no decision has been made.
Like running an MLM company with no retail customers, I consider selling a product with an illegal ingredient a bad business decision.
Instead of acknowledging that, after mischaracterizing NAC’s current legal status in dietary supplements, Nguyen trots out a “big pharma” conspiracy theory.
I don’t know why they’re doing what they’re doing, but big pharma is trying to take NAC off the market for supplements.
I’m working closely with our legal team. They did update me in January and said, “Van, as of right now not a full decision has been made. You don’t have to be concerned about it but if something does happen in a ruling, then we will have to address the ingredient.”
I don’t know what LaCore Enterprises’ lawyers are looking at but here’s the current NAC status and proposal from the FDA (April 2022);
If an article has been approved as a new drug under section 505 of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 355), products containing that article are outside the definition of a dietary supplement unless either of two exceptions applies.
First, there is an exception if the article was marketed as a dietary supplement or as a food before such approval.
Second, there is an exception if FDA (under authority delegated by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) issues a regulation, after notice and comment, finding that the article would be lawful under the FD&C Act.
FDA has determined that NAC is excluded from the dietary supplement definition under section 201(ff)(3)(B)(i) of the FD&C Act because NAC was approved as a new drug before it was marketed as a dietary supplement or as a food.
Specifically, NAC (i.e., acetylcysteine) was approved as a new drug under section 505 of the FD&C Act on September 14, 1963 (see 28 FR 13509 (Dec. 13, 1963) (announcing the approval)).
FDA is not aware of any evidence that NAC was marketed as a dietary supplement or as a food prior to September 14, 1963. As discussed
below in Section III, FDA recently confirmed NAC’s exclusion from the dietary supplement definition in response to two citizen petitions.However, we are considering initiating rulemaking under section 201(ff)(3)(B) of the FD&C Act to permit the use of NAC in or as a dietary supplement (i.e., to provide by regulation that NAC is not excluded from the definition of dietary supplement), and, if, among other considerations, FDA does not identify safety-related concerns as we continue our review of the available data and information, we are likely to propose a rule providing that NAC is not excluded from the definition of dietary supplement.
But why let facts get in the way of “big pharma” conspiracy theories.
So we’re going to leave (NAC) in there, as long as possible, and I pray and hope that it doesn’t become a prescribed drug.
It already is, and has been for fifty-nine years.
If the FDA changes the classification of NAC, great. Axis Klarity is in the clear. But that hasn’t happened.
Instead Elomir appears to have pre-empted the FDA’s course of action, choosing to offer an illegal ingredient in its flagship product and roll the dice on regulatory consequences.
We are fully monitoring it from a legal standpoint. So just know, I’m not neglecting or just throwing stuff together and praying to God it’s going to work and hoping they don’t catch us. That’s not our mentality.
As explained above, it kinda is. It’s exactly Elomir’s mentality.
Like having no retail customers, selling products with illegal ingredients is not a great foundation to build an MLM company on top of.
At this point BehindMLM gets a mention, with Nguyen begging Elomir distributors not to visit our site
If you run into someone that says, “Do you know about the BehindMLM article, please don’t go Google search and click on it, cuz then it just rises up guys.
An MLM company not wanting your distributors to inform themselves isn’t a good look.
By all means if something published on BehindMLM isn’t factually accurate, let me know and I’ll address it. But that hasn’t happened.
Instead we have the CEO of Elomir ignoring the primary reason the FTC goes after MLM companies, and mischaracterizing the current legal status of NAC as an approved drug.
Next we get into Nguyen’s husband, Toan, peddling crypto Ponzi schemes while he role-plays co-CEO of Elomir.
I was expecting a BehindMLM article about me. I knew they were going to say my husband does Ponzi schemes, because we do invest in crypto.
Obviously investing in Ponzi schemes and, more importantly, promoting them, is an indefensible position. And so we have Nguyen reduce her husband’s Ponzi scamming to “investing in crypto”.
With respect to BehindMLM, I don’t have a problem with “investing in crypto”. I couldn’t care less if Van and Toan Nguyen are crypto investors running Elomir.
What I have a problem with, and what is crucial for anyone doing their due-diligence into Elomir to recognize, is that Toan Nguyen is promoting crypto Ponzi schemes. And has been for some time.
If you invest in a Ponzi scheme and profit, you are a scammer.
If you promote Ponzi schemes, you are an even bigger scammer.
Toan Nguyen does both of these things, and I’ve provided documented evidence to back up these claims.
Reducing Toan Nguyen promoting Ponzi schemes and scamming people through them to “investing in crypto”, is the height of disingenuousness.
Guys, we fully disclosed everything to everyone and you can ask the O.G. team.
When they came over to our house, I told them at my dining table, “Hey guys, when BehindMLM comes out be mindful they’re probably going to say Toan does Ponzi schemes.” Right? Because he does do crypto.
No. Toan Nguyen “does Ponzi schemes” because “Toan does Ponzi schemes.” Whether wire and securities fraud is committed via crypto or any other vehicle is irrelevant.
Van continues to defend her husband’s Ponzi scamming by piling on even more disingenuousness;
When it does come about, please be honest to people and let them know that yes, my husband does do crypto.
Crypto is very controversial in the United States but he doesn’t knowingly take money and scam people. He has a YouTube channel that reviews crypto projects, NFTs, all those things and so I want you guys to be completely transparent to the people you talk to.
That would entail disclosing Toan Nguyen recruits people into the crypto Ponzi schemes he “reviews”.
I want to take a step back for a moment and explain why, from a due-diligence perspective, Toan’s crypto Ponzi scamming was such a big deal in BehindMLM’s Elomir review.
Passive investment opportunities are securities offerings. If that sentence makes no sense to you, go and read up on the Howey Test and how it’s used to establish the existence of an investment contract.
Securities in the US are regulated by the SEC. Both companies offering securities and promoters of securities need to be registered with the SEC.
Offering and promoting unregistered securities is illegal in the US (and anywhere in the world with financial regulation).
Toan Nguyen’s latest scam is Yield Nodes:
Yield Nodes is a crypto Ponzi pitching a passive 213% annual ROI.
Toan Nguyen actively promotes Yield Nodes on YouTube and social media, actively recruiting investors into a Ponzi scheme.
Neither Yield Nodes or Toan Nguyen are registered with the SEC. You can verify this yourself with a search of the SEC’s Edgar database.
Again, offering and promoting unregistered securities is illegal in the US.
This isn’t about “investing in crypto”, Toan Nguyen is committing securities fraud.
I know I’m not lying. I know my husband’s not lying. And for us, why would we disclose this publicly if we know we’re doing something illegally.
As demonstrated by her own words, neither Tan or her husband Toan have actually disclosed Toan’s investment and promotion of crypto Ponzi schemes.
To BehindMLM’s Elomir review, I pointed out that having an executive openly committing securities fraud by promoting Ponzi schemes isn’t a good look.
I wholeheartedly stand by that.
To be clear: I’m not suggesting or insinuating Terry LaCore or LaCore Enterprises has anything to do with Toan Nguyen scamming people through Ponzi schemes. It’s worth noting though that Terry LaCore himself has a history of securities fraud.
Given that I’m particularly surprised this is a topic I’ve had to address again. Maybe LaCore, Van and Toan need to sit down and talk this one out.
This isn’t “investing in crypto”. This is full-blown financial fraud via serial investment and promotion of Ponzi schemes.
Or perhaps LaCore doesn’t give a crap one of his executives is scamming people through Ponzi schemes. I’m not here to make that judgment call, I’m just pointing out facts as part of due-diligence into Elomir.
Poor business decisions and misrepresentation of regulatory compliance seems to be a recurring theme here.
My thanks to Mombie #Anti-MLM for drawing my attention to Van Nguyen’s misinformation webinar.
How come it just seems like this is NOT going to end well? I must admit, I did laugh at the end with the term MISINFORMATION WEBINAR (LOL!@_)
I do want to try the product though (seriously). I saw videos and either those people were really good actors or… this stuff is so good IT WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE MARKET.
Thank you for the link about NAC regarding the FDA and the truth.
Reposted below for everyone:
fda.gov/food/cfsan-constituent-updates/fda-releases-draft-guidance-enforcement-discretion-certain-nac-products
I’d probably be in this deal except my kids (which both have moved back home with me now) have put a ban on me if I ever get in aonther MLM again.
And since they are paying RENT and I need their income for my mortgage there is nothing I can do because they said they will move out if I get in another deal>
Last MLM I did well with was NUTRITION FOR LIFE (NFL). Loved the products and pay plan. Got checks for years.
Seems those days are over. Everything now is all show and no go. Hype hype hype and just a big herd of cats running from new deal to new deal. Getting old is not for sissies (just my .02 cents).
If anyone has a TRUE review of the product WHO IS NOT IN THE DEAL please send or post here. I want to try the product. Thank you.
Well, if that semi-literate waffle doesn’t convince you, I dunno what will.
Counting on the FTC being too busy to go after you, Van?
As Oz said, you’ve demonstrated that that is your mentality, 100%.
Note to those who are unfamiliar with stuff like this: when you see a YouTube video titled “[Name]: Is It a Scam?” the correct answer is always “YES.”
Videos that claim the answer is “no” are in on the scam and looking to sign you up. You can tell because they’ll always include a sign-up link. Do not be fooled by how sincere and objective they sound; they are neither.
@Phil
Elomir has only sold Axis Klarity to Brand Distributors, and even then orders haven’t been completely fulfilled.
Why are the comments to this article posting with vastly differing future timestamps? (I’m assuming different countries)
Anyway, the info is much appreciated.
Timestamps are server time, not local.
This article is very well put together and it chines with receipts. It seems as though Elimor is operating as a pyramid scheme. Van told in herself during this webinar.
Here’s hoping that the FDA or FTC or someone steps in and stops this train wreck before more people get scammed.
I am in no way affiliated with this company but cabe across a friends post about it. I was curious and then came across your article.
NAC is NOT a prescription. I have a bottle in my cabinet I got at my local herb/vitamin shop. There was some controversy early in during COVID and the FDA suspended shipment because they wanted to make it Prescription only. That didn’t happen.
As far as the rest… they’re sales people/influencers. If the products work use them (if they ever get to market) if not, don’t buy them.
When the general public will begin thinking for themselves these “influencers” won’t have any power.
A bottle of what? A supplement?
I’ve literally quoted the FDA on this as of April 2022. And that appears to be the latest guidance.
You might be able to buy supplements that illegally contain NAC but that doesn’t change the current law in the US.
I assume you’re referring to the illegal claims made during the Elomir webinar? That’s not how regulation works.
There’s no “but I’m just an influencer!” exemption clause in the FTC Act.
If a trained and licensed pharmacist was selling NAC over-the-counter, that might be reason to question whether their interpretation of the regulatory status of NAC is correct and Oz’s is wrong.
Why anyone should care about your local woo-woo shop selling NAC I have no idea.
“When the general public all have black belts in krav maga these “muggers” won’t have any power, therefore it’s their own fault they get mugged.”
Why do you write an article that’s an opinion piece then shut down everyone else’s?
NAC is a available as a supplement. This is 100% true. I don’t give 2 sh&!# if this company is successful or not, but if you want to give a true account, then gather the correct information.
There is a prescription that a Doctore can give you, but they can also prescribe Vitamin D. Maybe the prescription form is different. I don’t know.
But NAC is definitely available as a supplement and not just at my Woo/Woo store. Amazon, drug store chains, and WooWoo herb and vitamin shops.
webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/n-acetyl-cysteine-uses-and-risks
Please don’t create fictional scenarios.
The research here is presented as fact. Arguments contrary to facts typically shut themselves down.
I have provided current FDA guidance on NAC’s inclusion in dietary supplements. It’s currently illegal as of April 2022 (and has been for over 50 years).
Feel free to provide a statement from the FDA to the contrary.
…has not yet reached a decision.
Seems like they don’t to say yes or no. Leave it in limbo.
Marijuana (Ozedit: derails removed)
The petition seeks a decision making it legal to include NAC in dietary supplements. The FDA has yet to issue a decision on the petition.
The petition was filed because it is currently and has been illegal to include NAC in dietary supplements. That is and remains the case unless the FDA states otherwise.
The FDA might very well make it legal to include NAC in supplements in the coming months, or whenever.
As pointed out in this article and the preceding Elomir review, this is not a stable foundation to launch an MLM company with a single flagship product on. Not withstanding the inclusion of NAC in Axis Klarity is currently illegal.
If you want to discuss marijuana or anything else not related to Elomir, do it somewhere else. Thanks.
1) Send a letter to the government asking if it’s ok to mug people
2) Within the six months it takes the government to reply “no”, mug a bunch of people
3) Claim the regulatory status of hitting people with a tire iron and taking their money is “in limbo”
“Woo woo shops, Chinese wu wu shops on Amazon and more woo woo shops” is not materially different from “woo woo shops”.
Name a licensed medical professional selling NAC over the counter, and then ask them to explain why Oz is wrong.
Sean …..
I have NEVER seen Anything like this …..
I am just watching what is going on in their Private Group in Facebook ……
This Stuff is HEALING Everything ……
NUTS !!!
NAC is not prescription only. It can be prescribed, but it can also be purchased over the counter with no prescription whatsoever.
Literally have two giant bottles of 1000mg of it sitting next to me, fresh off a amazon truck. I can walk into my local wal-mart and ask for a bottle of it, and it will be sold to me.
Oh Boy ……
Now in the Group this Strip is Healing Every Possible Issue in the World ….
There is a woman ini there giving 4 strips a day to her grandson of 5 years old ….
And it Changed his Life ….. It is Amazing Me that …. It matters Not what the Issue is …. I’ve seen it ALL and Everyone is Cured in the Group …..
Absolutely Nuts ….
The strip has 45mg total, including the ‘sugar’ strip which is the bulk of the 45mg. To get an effective dose of NAC – you would need to essentially consume the entire box, as effective dosing is 600mg to 1200 mg per day.
Curcumin bioavailiabiity is low, and the amount in the strip is likely in for color only, as studies show you need 1gr to 6gr to have a benefit.
So no – this strip is not going to do much of anything.
There is a reason large supplement companies don’t have strips – you can’t get effective dosing on a strip, and many ingregients taste bad.
This strip will not do anything and when they move to glutathione bec.
@mouses
Thanks for the input. I’ll edit that sentence in the article that mentions prescriptions to make the distinction between direct-buy and buying NAC in a supplement clearer.
But when I said it was OTC I was totally shut down and pretty much ridiculed.
Good Day Sir!
The first thing I asked was “A bottle of what? A supplement?”
You never answered.
Read mouses’ comment and see the difference.
Don’t act clueless. I replied NAC is a Supplement. (Ozedit: snip, see below)
I asked it if it was bought as a supplement because including NAC in dietary supplements is illegal.
You seem to have a comprehension problem.
I don’t want to argue about this because your inability to express yourself clearly and understand what is being asked isn’t my problem.
Good day indeed.
Sara- it looks like you think there are two categories, ‘prescription medicines’ and ‘supplements’.
There aren’t, actually it is at least three: ‘prescription medicines’, ‘over the counter medicines’, and ‘supplements’.
What Oz is saying is that currently the legal situation is that you can sell it as a prescription medicine and an over the counter medicine but not as a supplement.
This is important because supplement standards are much much looser and easier for companies to meet.
If you make an over the counter medicine you need better manufacturing standards and you need to make sure for example that it has what it claims to have in it.
If you sell aspirin it must have actual aspirin of it, of the right amount, and you can only sell it in certain ways and places. You also have to show it works.
If you sell something as a supplement you do not have to show that it works unless you make a specific claim about what it does.
Obviously Elomir will want it to be sold as a supplement because it is more profitable for them, so they are currently selling it as if it was in that legal category, when right now it is not.
The piece you quoted did not say that the FDA didn’t say yes or no and left it in limbo.
It said that it is not legally a supplement: “While the FDA’s response to the citizen petitions confirmed NAC is excluded from the definition of a dietary supplement.”
“Excluded from the definition of” = “not legally a supplement.” This is clear and confirms what Oz wrote. They just did not say whether they might change that category in future.
You can’t do something illegal now and claim it is okay because it might be legal someday.
Often they have drugs in them that are illegal to sell as supplements. This is probably what your health food shop brand one is doing, unless it is lying on the label and does not contain any NAC at all.
They do that too sometimes and it’s difficult to get anyone to do anything about it.
sciencebasedmedicine.org/where-science-meets-supplements/
So this explains a bit more about drug vs supplements and why it matters.
I wonder if there’s any connection to the Cardiffs and Redwood’s Rengalife strip making machines?
Also, I’m hearing a similar MO with their VPL mask making machine breaking down. Or, maybe the Cardiffs sold LaCore old, faulty strip machines, and the scammer got scammed? That’d be funny.
Given LaCore’s got his lab to develop stuff I doubt it. He’s also been making strips for his other companies so no need to outsource.
Thanks. I didn’t know he was already making his own strips.
The article I read on the FDA and products labeled as dietary supplements containing NAC stated “the FDA intends to exercise enforcement discretion with respect to the sale and distribution of certain NAC-containing products that are labeled as dietary supplements.”
This certainly does not sound like a black and white issue to me. Government and double speak!!
I have heard that if NAC can no longer be used in the Elomir product, they will replace it with glutathione. As I am sure you know, NAC is necessary to make and replenish this powerful antioxidant.
The diffusion technology used in the strips is such that it encapsulates selected ingredients with a carrier molecule that facilitates optimal absorption and bioavailability.
Absorption of a substance in the mouth has advantages in that it is usually more direct, often faster and by-passes degradation in the digestive system and first pass metabolism in the liver.
NAC bioavailability is 9.1 % if taken orally. Not great. No wonder people feel they need to take large oral doses for optimal effect.
Anyway, just some thoughts to throw in the mix. I really am turned off by people on both ends of the spectrum. YEAH YEAH. GO TEAM GO. BEST STUFF ON THE PLANET!!! and THEY ARE SCAMMMERS, WORST THING OUT THERE!!!
I find the truth usually lies somewhere in-between and I try to think things through myself.
As has been stated, regardless of what might happen, NAC is illegal to use in dietary supplements.
This is not a solid foundation to launch an MLM company with a single flagship product on.
And there goes the whole marketing campaign. Nobody cares about a yet another glutathione product.
Peer-reviewed studied please.
I don’t see BehindMLM as being on a spectrum. I research each MLM review I publish as best I can.
The article I read on the FDA and products labeled as dietary supplements containing NAC stated “the FDA intends to exercise enforcement discretion with respect to the sale and distribution of certain NAC-containing products that are labeled as dietary supplements.”
This certainly does not sound like a black and white issue to me. Government and double speak!!”
I think you’re not really understanding what they said. Nothing there was ‘double speak’.
It’s clear. They have their eyes on some NAC products that have been marketed as supplements, which is not allowed, and they will enforce those laws.
The people selling those products for profit tried to sell them using lower standards, which is bad for consumers, and wasn’t legal. They knew or should have known that.
Oz has also pointed out the promoters have promoted scams before, and has demonstrated lying above. You haven’t been able to refute that, so that seems to be where the truth is.
He has evidence. You have a belief that when confronted with claims by scammers, and claims with evidence, you should go somewhere in the middle of those two points.
The claims you said are dancing around claiming that their formulation increases bioavailability in some clinically meaningful way. But without actually providing any evidence, just some wishy-washy claims designed to have people draw that conclusion and to sound ‘science-y’ to people unused to this area.
Do you usually ‘research’ things by parroting sales pitches from pyramid schemes ? Or do you actually have independently-funded well-conducted decent-sized studies in humans backing up those claims ?
Elomir has changed their comp plan – again. They are on version #5 – in just 7 weeks.
Adding more breakage at lower ranks. Plus the CEO said they are changing packaging since the box is too expensive.
And now they are backpeddling on claims and saying some people may never ‘feel’ it.
Elomir article in The Daily Beast..
NOLINK://www.thedailybeast.com/mlm-elomir-is-slammed-for-yellow-tongue-strips-they-claim-will-relieve-things-like-anxiety-and-joint-pain
…it is not complimentary.
Got to love her understanding of Alpha Waves! Was the doc being sarcastic with his supposed compliment?
facebook.com/van.nguyen.35728
This?
This obviously isn’t a substitute for medical studies. I wonder what’s being discussed behind closed doors at Elomir?
Scrolling down and looking at some of those Nguyen’s other posts…
And this…
Axis Klarity and how it’s being marketed sounds positively dangerous.
If you are suffering from mental health issues, please go see a professional. Putting a strip on your tongue isn’t going to address the root cause.
And you as an adult at least have a choice to potentially further harm yourself. Don’t push this onto your kids.
Taking mental health issues lightly and shilling an obvious quack fake remedy… I have no words. No wonder the Chinese execute MLM fraudsters.