Lopoca Review: Nugget Game Ponzi points investment
While there is no readily available information about who owns or operates Lopoca on their website, the company does provide some basic information about itself:
Lopoca Gaming Ltd., was founded in Malta on the 15th June 2010 as a subsidiary from Lopoca Ltd., a company registered in Cyprus.
Whilst Lopoca Gaming Limited is the operative company, Lopoca Limited deals with the administraive (sic) and all member enquiries for Lopoca Gaming Limited.
Despite the mention of registration in Cyprus, Lopoca provide an address in Malta on their website.
This corresponds with a license issued by the Malta Gaming authority (MGA/CL3/709/2010), but does not confirm where Lopoca is being operated from.
The Lopoca website domain (“lopoca.com”) was registered on the 20th of March 2010, with a Klaus Saurugger of Lopoca LTD listed at the owner.
An address in Cyprus is also provided, however further research reveals it to belong to FiduciTrust Services.
On their website, FiduciTrust Services provide mail address and mail forwarding services, indicating Lopoca is unlikely to have an actual physical presence in Cyprus.
In Lopoca affiliate newsletters, Saurugger (right) identifies himself as CEO of the company. On his LinkedIn Saurugger lists his location as Malta, which matches up with the Malta Gaming Authority license.
Saurugger’s employment history reveals positions the telecommunications and insurance sectors, however I didn’t see anything MLM related.
This suggests that Lopoca is Saurugger’s first MLM venture as an executive.
Read on for a full review of the Lopoca MLM business opportunity.
The Lopoca Product Line
Lopoca is an online gaming company, offering users casino games, sports betting, IQ Game and Nugget Game virtual share trading.
The casino and sports betting are self-explanatory, with the following description for the Nugget Game provided on the Lopoca website:
The Nugget Game is a totally unique, Maltese Gaming License Sanctioned game, where you trade Nuggets on our Nugget Market with other members and players.
The IQ Game appears to be an IQ test, which Lopoca affiliates must purchase access to each week to qualify for commissions (€10).
All games except the IQ Game are available to retail Lopoca customers.
The Lopoca Compensation Plan
The Lopoca compensation plan sees affiliates sign up and spend money on offered Lopoca gaming services, with commissions also paid on the recruitment of new affiliates.
Retail activity is also paid out on, when non-affiliates participate in Lopoca games and services.
MLM Commission Qualification
In order to qualify for MLM commissions, all Lopoca affiliates are required to generate at least 1 residual commission point each week.
In their compensation plan material, Lopoca claim this is ‘most easily accomplished by purchasing a (IQ) voucher‘ each week.
Each period you place a qualifying order and after you register a single qualified partner in each team, left and right (“qualified” means he/she has purchased an IQ-Voucher), you can claim your earnings.
As above, taken from the Lopoca compensation plan, Lopoca affiliates are also required to recruit at least two affiliates who each also maintain a weekly IQ Game voucher purchase.
Lopoca Affiliate Ranks
There are eight affiliate ranks within the Lopoca compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Member – recruit at least two MLM commission qualified affiliates
- Apprentice – recruit at least four MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least one of which is Member ranked or higher)
- Mentor – recruit at least eight MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least one of which is Apprentice ranked or higher)
- Manager – recruit at least twelve MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least one of which is Mentor ranked or higher) and generate 2 residual commission points a week
- Director – recruit at least sixteen MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least two of which are Manager ranked or higher) and generate 2 residual commission points a week
- International Director – recruit at least twenty MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least four of which are Manager and 1 is Director ranked or higher) and generate 4 residual commission points a week
- General Director – recruit at least thirty MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least eight of which are Manager and 1 is International Director ranked or higher) and generate 5 residual commission points a week
- President – recruit at least forty MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least twelve of which are Manager and 1 is General Director ranked or higher) and generate 5 residual commission points a week
Recruitment Commissions
Lopoca affiliates paid to recruit new affiliates, paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
Lopoca cap payable unilevel levels at four, with commissions paid out as a percentage of newly recruited affiliate fees:
- level 1 (personally recruited affiliates) – 4%
- level 2 – 3%
- level 3 – 2%
- level 4 – 1%
Note that 70% of the commission is paid out as cash, with the remaining 30% awarded in Nugget points (see Nugget Game commissions).
Cashback
A 7.88% cashback is paid out on of funds Lapoca generates from games and services.
These are funds that were not paid out to players, minus commissions paid to providers of the offered services.
An affiliate can also earn cashback on spends by their downline, with 5.26% paid out down two levels of recruitment.
Note that cashback is only paid out on funds Lopoca themselves keep that are spent on casino games (including sports betting).
Residual Commissions
Residual commissions are based on points generated by a Lapoca affiliate, with points generated as follows:
- purchase of IQ Game voucher = 1 point
- 200 EUR spent in the Nugget Game = 1 point
- 1000 EUR spent in the casino or sports betting = “approx o.5” points
- 100 EUR rake generated via poker = 1 point
- recruit a Broker affiliate (€500 EUR) = 30 points
- recruit a Broker Pro affiliate (€1000 EUR) = 60 points
- recruit a Broker Pure affiliate (€5000 EUR) = 120 points
Generated points are tracked through a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
Points are tracked across these teams, with 300 points generated paying out a €45.50 commission and €19.50 into the Nugget Game.
Note that these 300 points must be generated using a 2:1 ratio, that is 200 points on one side of the binary matched with 100 points on the other.
Finally, Lopoca affiliates are capped on the their binary earnings – based on their affiliate rank:
- Member – €455 a week
- Apprentice – €910 a week
- Mentor – €1820 a week
- Manager – €3640 a week
- Director – €7288 a week
- International Director – €11,056.50 a week
- General Director – €14,560 a week
- President – €18,200 a week
Note that if a Lopoca affiliate receives 400 binary commissions over 4 consecutive weeks, their binary position is terminated and they must generate a new binary team from scratch.
Matching Bonus (Binary)
A 50% Matching Bonus is available on binary earnings of recruited affiliates, paid out down a maximum four levels of recruitment.
Qualification for each of the four levels available is as follows:
- level 1 – personally recruit 4 MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least one in both binary sides)
- level 2 – personally generate at least 2 residual commission points and recruit at least 12 MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least one must be Mentor rank or higher)
- level 3 – personally generate at least 4 residual commission points and recruit at least 20 MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least four must be Manager rank and one Director rank or higher)
- level 4 – personally generate at least 5 residual commission points and recruit at least 30 MLM commission qualified affiliates (at least eight must be Manager rank and one International Director or higher)
How much of a Matching Bonus is paid is then determined by an affiliate’s rank:
- Apprentice – 2.5% on level 1
- Mentor – 5% on level 1
- Manager – 8% on level 1 and 5% on level 2
- Director – 10% on level 1 and 5% on level 2
- International Director – 10% on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 and 3
- General Director – 10% on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 to 4
- President – 10% on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 to 5
Nugget Game Points
In addition to receiving Nugget Game Points with Broker (€500), Broker Pro (€1000) and Broker Pure (€5000) affiliate membership, Lopoca affiliates can also invest up to €5000 in additional funds a year into Nugget Game Points.
Lopoca’s Nugget Game is a game in which Team Partners and Player can buy and sell Nuggets online.
The basic idea is that Nugget Game Points are accumulated and traded between Lopoca affiliates, on the expectation that they will indefinitely increase in value.
Lopoca affiliates are capped from selling nugget points each weekend, based on the following amounts pegged to affiliate ranks:
- Member – €195 a week
- Apprentice – €390 a week
- Mentor – €780 a week
- Manager – €1560 a week
- Director – €3120 a week
- International Director – €4738.50 a week
- General Director – €6240 a week
- President – €7800 a week
IQ Game Commissions
IQ Game vouchers cost €10 and enter an affiliate into a daily profit-sharing pool made up of 50% of IQ Game voucher sales.
At the end of each day an undisclosed number of Lopoca affiliates are drawn and win an equal share of the pool.
World Club
The World Club is a bonus pool made up for Lopoca company-wide revenue.
As a World Pool member, you are paid a share of Lopoca’s total global profit.
President ranked affiliates receive an equal share in the pool, however Lopoca do not disclose what percentage of company-wide revenue goes into the pool.
Joining Lopoca
Basic Affiliate membership is €49 and then €35 annually.
Affiliates can also sign up with Broker (€500), Broker Pro (€1000) and Broker Pure (€5000) packages, all of which come with Nugget points.
Lopoca affiliates are also required to spend at least €40 a month for commission qualification.
Conclusion
Buried under a rather large gaming and sports betting facade, is a relatively straight-forward Ponzi points business model.
Back 2011 such were the problems this was causing, that Klaus Saurugger issued the following press-release in July:
I was distressed and deeply concerned when I realized that many Members are reducing Lopoca to the Nugget Game.
The Nugget Game is but one of Lopoca’s many games and you already know that there will be a lot more. Turnover and profits from the Nugget Game will only be a part of Lopoca’s overall turnover and profit.
The current price development of the Nugget Game doesn’t influence the goals and visions of Lopoca’s management. No, it is all of you who create this price because your goals are only short-termed and you don’t realize your chance to be part of something really big.
The current Nugget price is of no interest if you know where the journey with Lopoca will lead to.
I believe the issue was the Nugget Game points were decreasing in value, causing then Lopoca investors to panic.
Yet despite Saurugger’s pleadings, in 2015 it appears not much has changed:
Functionally the Nugget Game is pretty straight-forward. Lopoca get points when they sign up and then via direct investment into the scheme.
Each point (officially Lopoca refer to them as “nuggets”) is assigned a value by how many funds are currently invested in the “game”.
Withdrawals through the company aren’t possible, with affiliates instead having to sell the points to other affiliates.
This sees new affiliates buy points from existing affiliates, with recruitment and binary commissions also feeding new funds into the game.
The recruitment and binary injections are of particular note, as they provide (at least theoretically) a constant influx of new buyers.
Lopoca affiliates have three days to convert their assigned Nugget Game points allocations from binary and recruitment commissions, which is in itself designed to ensure hoarding doesn’t take place.
The problem is if recruitment slows down, all three sources of Nugget Game revenue are screwed.
Retail customers are permitted to participate in the Nugget Game, however I suspect there’s little to no retail activity taking place within Lopocos.
Indeed the fact that retail customers are permitted to invest in the Nugget Game complicates things, and I’d even go so far as to say those retail customers that do invest are no longer retail customers.
The Nugget Game is intertwined with the MLM opportunity, despite retail customers being barred from earning residual MLM commissions.
I’d argue the only true retail customers in Lopoca are those who play the casino games and participate in sports betting, and it is these users I believe are far and few between.
Prospective affiliates themselves can verify the existence of retail, by checking with a prospective upline as to how many MLM commission points a week they are generating from retail customers (excluding Nugget Game point investment).
Given there’s no real reason to focus on this side of the business, again I suspect retail activity will be little to none.
As to the rest of the services offered by Lapoca, there’s no issues as far as I can see. Gaming and MLM don’t really go together in my opinion, but if Lapoca have got their license and are operating that side of the business above-board, more power to them.
The Nugget Game Ponzi scheme however cannot be ignored, and unfortunately drags the rest of the business down.
In the US you’re looking at unregistered securities, with the scheme itself (outside of Malta) quite recognizably a Ponzi investment scheme.
There’s also a distinct “pay to play element” within the scheme, with affiliates required to spend money each month just to qualify for commissions. Recruitment of affiliates is an alternative, but unlikely to be a main source of qualification.
As with all Ponzi schemes, once new investment dries up the scheme goes bust.
In that regard Lapoca affiliates are at a pretty severe disadvantage, as funds are trapped in points and if there’s no buyers, remain trapped.
And nobody’s going to see that coming until Lapoca affiliates go to sell their Nugget points and realize there’s no buyers. By then of course it’s too late, with the price of the points going into freefall before the scheme collapses altogether.
Much like ZeekRewards… Is there enough “gaming” to actually pay for the return / appreciation?
Apparently not. Not to mention this is basically another altcoin, albeit without the crypto.
the author seems do not unterstand lopoca :-)… just cynical…but fans of lopoca would say this – the aim ist 10% of den EU-citizens….
there are rumors that in my city already 25% are members of lopoca – some are millionairs right now…and spend money with two hands….
Sounds like it’ll be a wonderful place to live when the Ponzi busts.
The most successful Ponzi points businesses created only a handful of millionaires. Lopoca is not in this category.
Numbers on a screen != income.
@ Oz – it is a wonderful place and if it will bust (and i guess it will some day) it would not be the first time 🙂 – our region can handle this – but no ponzi before was bigger than lopoca.
Of course, you are right the “millions” are mostly in virtuell nuggets and in cash paid sportscars, bikes, pools, flats and some funny night in babylon 🙂
Almost the whole (western) world life with numbers on a screen especially the “world´s police” USA….
one additional comment: Madoff runs his Ponzi-Scheme almost 17 years without buying “one share”….
some of the new “ponzi schemes” are very delicious and with many jurisdical homework “waterproof” for the moment for the authorities…. i think the times are good for “such things”.
It is never a good time to rip off people in fraudulent investment schemes.
And look at what happened to him… have his underwear and everything auctioned off, stay in jail until he die, sons committed suicide… lieutenants going to jail or dying of cancer left and right…
Not exactly worthy of emulation, unless you’ve gone over to the dark side.
Hi Guys!!
Thank you for explaining the Lopocacompensationplan so clearly. I will ask Lopoca to put it on there site.. if you do not mind.
You see Lopoca as a sceme…in my opinion its taking care of MLM rules as MLM is ment to be.
I wonder if you realy took the trouble, to talk to people and the board of directors….i did actualy, i found them very transparant, honest, pure and they realy knew were the were talking about.
I my opinion you bad informed… and go out from assumptions.
What did you see on there website about Katmando……….. We give 1% of our income to That city…and Lopoca doubles what we pay….That iss apositivestory, isn’t it..but YOU are not interested in positive stories.
You are so bloody negative about yourselve not to be able to figger out a plan like this on your own.
I see you as a very negative vinnager pisser. Not very well informed, and spread your over our beautifull compagny.
After you take the trouble TO READ every detail {and believe me…itsa lot avaible and very transparant as well
Also note that you are not very accurate, refurring to LOpoca as LApoca.
Shame on you BRO!!!!!
^^ What does any of that have to do with Lopoca running a run-of-the-mill Ponzi points investment scheme?
It’s fraud and you are just another deluded scammer.
Lopoca seems to be most active in German speaking countries, e.g. Austria, Switzerland, Germany — collectively 89.3% of the traffic.
Alexa:
yeah oz, how dare you refurring to the spelling of LOpoca as LApoca you negative vinnagar pisser 🙂
the legitimacy of LOpoca lies in getting the spelling of the beautifull compagny right! go figger!
Lopocasport doesn’t seem to be very active.
Alexa:
The Swiss website pokerfirma.com had a look into Lopoca, e.g. by trying to register a new user. It wasn’t very impressed. But the date of the review shows that Lopoca first became visible in the market in April 2011.
It seems to have “relaunched” in 2013 and in April 2015 (based on the activity on the blog / other websites).
Hi there,
I feel sorry about the issues negative people have in their lives.
I know a bigger group which is playing in Lopoca since months and we are really happy about the outcome…
Lopoca is NOT a ponzi scheme or pyramid selling, both of which are illegal..the only people who allege this seem to be those looking in from the outside.
Interestingly none of the thousands of people involved in Lopoca and enjoying it as a business post such concerns.
The company has been fully checked in Germany and found to be entirely legitimate.
So hopefully people will stop using such terms as Ponzi and pyramid selling when they nothing about how it really works.
Incidentally it is also a very ethical company which donates to children’s charities around the world, and is also funding the building of a school in Katmandu after the destruction caused by the recent earthquake there.
It is by virtue of its business model.
Ponzi investors not complaining as long as new investors continue to sign up? Well I never…
No it hasn’t. You’re full of shit.
Either provide proof or stop making up BS.
There’s nothing ethical about using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Hiding behind charitable donations does not change your business model, which is what makes Lopoca a Ponzi scheme.
Maybe to calm down all emotions let´s make a difference between LOPOCA as gamingplattform and the NUGGET-Game.
Providing Online-Gaming is a real business-modell. To sell this in a MLM-Structure (instead of classic advertising in TV-Spots or sponsoring sports-teams) is also a business-model.
The NUGGET-Game is not more than a Game (under Malta/EU-Licence) which looks like Stock-Trading. If the NUGGETS would be a company, the marketvalue would be now approx. Euro 516.600.000,– (105.000.000 existing Nuggets multiplied by the actual prisce) – this is a huge amount !!
Every day approx. 1 to 3 Million Euro run as fresh money into this system (= 30.000.000 to 90.000.000 Million Euro per month).
These new inflows are responsible for the increase in price – under the assumption, that LOPOCA doesn´t increase the number of nuggets behind the scenes and the no. of existing Nuggets remains the same……
my question now is – Who ist selling 30 to 90 Million worth in nuggets every month????
LOPOCA-Believers please look at the Numbers – the Nugget-Game must be a Ponzi-Scheme !! 500 Million Marketvalue of just “virtual Nuggets” ist worht ….NOTHING
Investing in points/nuggets, the value of which is pegged to the rate of new investment, isn’t a game. It’s Ponzi fraud.
the endgame has begun, i think – on 6. Nov. price of nuggets tumbled approx. more than 60% recovered than to 2/3 of the All-time-high and fall again…..now it seems to be a little bit stable at 2,80 to 3,40…
Then the communication of all the sellers changeg to typical ponzi-scheme seller: everything is ok, price will rebound, the way is the same AND bring in a lot of people (and new money :-)) ….
The inner circle try to push the price with severel arguments, it worked for while the last days…….the next weeks will show whether lopoca survive or not…
Lopoca nugget game seems to be recovering. the bottom value of a Nugget was 0,73€.
What happened in November was staged to happen by Lopoca’s rivals. The combination of MLM and gaming as Lopoca is practicing it, is the first on the market. Many out there have been practicing numerous marketings before, where one has to sell products.
But this MLM is based on spreading information and as such is very interesting for people with marketing experineces, since it requires almost no private invertment (only payed membership of 60€, while 10€ticket for IQ game can easily be payed from provisions in relatively short time frame.).
The upside is the fact that Lopoca spends no money on advertising since recruiting new members and users is their way of paying for commercial and surely gaining new members.
The members range is very wide – from the ones looking for implementing their money in relativery short time (via Nugget game), to gamblers, proffesional poker players, sportsbetting enthusiasts… And finally for MLM proffesionals and the ones trying to become one.
As the CEO said, Lopoca is not all about Nugget game – it surely is a biig upside, but it’s not all there is to it.
There are some powerfull individuals out there who saw that Lopoca is not building it’s empire solely on gaming addicts.
And when certain information ‘came around’, people with thousands and tens of thousands of nuggets started selling up. We all know one has to offer a lower price to sell the same thing someone else in selling to. And those were the two reasons Nugget value took a blow and tumbled down. but all that really happened was a change of ‘ownership’ of those imaginary stocks. others bought more nuggets by more accessible price.
the value of Nuggests has been slowly increasing for some time now. and since not even 1% of the possible EU market has been informed about Lopoca, the Nugget value will grow for some time to come. most likely decades.
Not to mention market on other continents is opening up, where gaming is eighter barely legal or already very popular with weaker providors than Lopoca.
By the way. I haven’t found any information about splitting. Have you (the auhtor) overloked it or were you unable to find it?
And overall objective part of article the was indeed very good, as much as information and breafness is concerned.
This is what they tell first-time Ponzi investors such as yourself. The only variable that has an actual impact on the Lopoca’s Ponzi points is new investment.
No new investment = worthless Ponzi points, which is what happened.
It’s the only reason people join the company. You’ve really got to fine-tune your bullshit meter if you want to get involved in Ponzi schemes.
Again, marketing material fed to the gullible. The only people interested in Lopoca are Ponzi scammers, looking to recruit new victims so they can get paid.
Ponzi schemes typically collapse within 2-3 years. But don’t let reality get in the way of chasing pie-in-the-sky income projections.
Don’t recall seeing it in the original comp plan. They might have introduced it after seeing how it was used to lure suckers in similar Ponzi schemes (OneCoin etc.).
Either way 1x worthless Ponzi points or 2x, does it matter?
i was trying to be polite, and won’t give up the effort now althow you have proven to be a big dissapiontment in that field.
Nugget value does not depend solely on investment directly into it’s value. as I pointed out before – it’s a gaming-based website.
people don’t join it only for Nugget game … again, other products are offered. As of recently the best sportsbetting provide has launched a whole new range of possibilities, other online gaming sites don’t offer.
No. of poker players is increasing, and most often they have absolutely No intention regarding Nuggets. the same thing is happening with sportsbetters.
as you have said it yourself, it was all started back in 2010.
and Yes, it does matter. A lot. but since you are not informed, I shall not interprete the details.
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your overall comeback was very offensive and centered on one (little) detail YOU believe to be a deception for masses.
naturally, lots of knowledge must be gained to be a good marketing-man. and yet so far, no one has been deprived of their earnings. only canceled, payed out and forbiden a new membership for violating basic rules of discretion.
If however Lopoca is to fail, much money can be made till then.
And if you are so disgusted about the idea, I urge you to come up with a mlm focused/based company you would recomand as a good scheme. or even John Doe company you would recomend as fair in every possible way.
Why game in a nugget-based Ponzi scheme when there’s plenty of legitimate alternatives out there?
Next you’ll tell me Zeek Rewards was about penny auctions, or TelexFree was about VOIP…
Of course it does. What little gaming activity may take place will be affiliates. Probably to shoot YouTube marketing videos claiming how awesome the gaming is.
The only source of revenue is affiliate investment. Think about it, why have affiliates invest if the gaming was profitable?
Riiiiight. Because nobody ever bet on sports over the internet before. Revolutionary that is.
At the end of the day the Ponzi aspect of Lopoca is all that matters. I won’t be making any apologies for that clashing with the fictional marketing spiel you’ve been fed.
Ponzi schemes continue to pay out as long as suckers such as yourself continue to invest. This is not rocket science.
And that’s the bottom line for you. You’re happy to scam so long as there’s money to made. Best of luck with that.
That’s what they tell you, but they can’t tell you HOW exactly values are calculated. It’s black box. It’s basically “give them your money and hope they give back a bit more than you put in”.
So where *did* your money go?
Meanwhile time goes by – almost one year after the Crash of Nuggetprice we face the following Situation in a Region which is realy infected by “lopoca” or “Nugget-game”
1.) almost no new Clients came in – remember bevor 6/11 there was approx. 500tsd to 3 Mio Euro new Money-inflow which drives the Price of the 105 Mio Nuggets to nealr 5,– Euro per Piece….
2.) meanwhile a few big nuggetowner began to sell their sportscars or bikes to get some cash ….do not know why? some pretend to buy more Nuggets at this cheap Level…..mybe the Need Money???
3.) in Austria the sue for “ponzi-scheme” is rejected….but what the prosecutors did not check was the lopoca-internal Servers in malta or Zypern – they only check austrian directors and there homes…..Point for lopoca, in autria the stand the lawsuits….
4.) a lot of lopoca-guys no very active in other fields (one-coin, swiss-coin, questra, and some ponzis which already failed..)
5.) still a very old-fashioned Homepage with a lot of bugs inclusive the possibility to check some private informations of the users…
6.) big nuggetsholder now face the Situation that they had millions of virtual assets which are now not possible to Change into real cash (almost no payin)…
Lopoca lives with a normal gaming-page with average offers and quotes, some are playing, few earning also Money from provisions from other Gamblers but nuggetgame seems to be dead….
..you will not believe it, the game is still existing and old-members are continuosly run for new members….
there are rumors that meanwhile after the crash, aproxx. 80% of 105 Mio Nuggets are in the hands of a few lopoca-believers… i am afraid (and sad), but for the moment it seems to be unstopable…
Does not looks like a fair deal.
they deleted accounts in ca 20 different lands and you cant go in your acc now and you cant do nothing about it.
I gave ca 1500€ there and they will pay me (maybe) only 400€ bcs thats the price of nuggets not but i have no possibility to wait until the price is higher bcs they have fcking deleted all accounts! And the worst part is that they laugh at home how they fcked with normal ppl!
after closing 21 countries like described above – lopoca wants to spread out to Vietnam, South America, Belgium and UK – especially for UK they expect “big busines”, because it is an Nation of “Gamers” and “Betting”.
Right now they work to get a gaming-license but the do not specify whether the license is for der gaming-plattform and the Nugget-game…..
i cannot imagine that uk-officials are giving a license for this Nugget-game??? ..within next few weeks everything should be ready to “rumble UK”….
Maybe a rumor but all the people (who will be in the second row with lopoca and the nuggetgame) in UK/Great Britain should be warned that “Insiders” now (june 2017) know that 5 Mio pieces of virtual created and worthless (shit) Nuggets are probably preorderd by the first row ….
that means to all others in this kind of gambling is almost no factor of luck, just only a factor of “who knows things first”.
Hands off this game in UK my friends, if you are not in the first row you probably loose Money and you definately get informed wrong by your Sponsors…
latest newsflow:
the mega-Event “lopoca Sensation” in Salzburg (Austria) was cancelled and replaced by a small Party for the last active sales-force (approx. 120+ People)…just a shade, if you consider the lopoca Sensation before the Nuggets-Price-Crash in Nov. 2015 – approx. 5.000 People were in Salzburg…
Lopoca try to get a license for UK – they pronounced it for Mid 2017….now rumors says that it will be not before 2018 – one question is still not answered: a license as a gaming Plattform or also a license for the ponzi-near nuggetgame too???
i would be surprised if the uk gaming authority will give green light for the nuggetgame…we will see
Lopoca try to buy one physical Casino in Switzerland (maybe st. Moritz from Casinos Austrias AG) – due to coming regulations in one of the present mainmarkets for Lopoca, only owner of a physical Casino-Location in CH can also run online-gaming-plattforms – it is extremely important that lopoca can operate in CH, a lot of big nuggetholders are sitting there…
in the last few weeks more and more YouTube Videos try to present lopoca an the nuggetgame as a Kind of Investment…not a good developement…
It seems that Lopoca and all things attached to it will soon become completly unknown. Even old online users from the very first day, who tried to push Lopoco on any onlnie board or on any webpage are slowly leaving the stage.
There are thousands of people who invsted a lot more than their current nugget game balance mirrors back to them.
The price of one nuggets seems to float between 0,80 Euro and 1,00 Euro in best case. I can’t see a realtic chance for those people to take any earning back home.
With so many people waiting to get back into profit from 1 Nugget = 4 Euros and obove – there will be no chance to see the value rising to 2 Euros or more. After such a long time, most nugget holders are happy to loose “only” 50% of their investent.
Millions of nuggets will be ready for sale as soon as the price goes just a little obove 1,50 Euro. With most of the people willing to sell at any price above 1,50 Euros, the Lopoca Nugget Games can be seen nearly dead.
Sad for those, who invested huge amounts of their saving, based on from impressions, built in fake advertising.
Co-Foundert Mr. Saurugger died unexpected at the Age of 55 on 9th of Oct. 2017.
Mr. Saurugger moved from Austria to Cyprus to run the lopoca-support-entity in Cyprus and he was responsible for most of the technical Details in the Company.
This is a tragedy for his Family – but how far he was in the Position to share his knowledge of the Details for running the Business?
People how know Lopoca for a Long time know that many Details and Announcement needed a Long time to be done and some are not still finished yet….. Beside the tragic Event in my opinion some Things will need in future still more time to be settled and the remaining Company owners and the heirs have to find a solution……that means again: be careful to cooperate with this company.
As supposed in post #32 of October 2017 now the absence of died founder mr. saurugger seems to be visible…. for the Moment the LO(tto)PO(ker)CA(sino) platform doesn´t provide POKER-Games what is essential for this Kind of businessmodel…….
second Hand poker Provider went bankrupt and lo(po)ca is not able to start another cooperation some rumors say…. and they also say that (in comparison with other gaming-providers) not too much People played via Lo(Po)Ca…….
Dear all,
I just receive an email 2 days ago, where is written “romanian accounts closure ” and they are giving details how to take out money.
I been the 3rd in Romania as register and I bring under me some member of family and friends who trust in me. Unfortunatelly other person who I GET IN TOUCH, they didn`t believe in project + the 1st member register in Romania make some bullshits and people doesnt trust anymore.
Ok, back to my problem and not only. After email we cannot log in our accounts to updated, some of us, change bank, closed bank accounts, change addresses, leave abroad.
Now lopoca is asking us all details in order to take money out from them.
Few months ago I ask to send me money in a bank what I use now, but because is not in the country where lopoca is active, they say ” NO “, because of security reason.
My point of view is, they dont want to return ANY MONEY to us. When I get register, it was not written, we should be active, play or make transaction with nuggets.
I will write to gaming authorities everywhere about this problem. No, access denied to register to see how many nuggets and money we have in accounts.
I know they are strong and have relations, but maybe few thousands of euro doesnt make them poor, less then 5000 euro for 6 accounts.
But bad reputations I guess is not ok for them in the future. So, if you dont play, you are not good for them.
By the way, I found yrs ago people, they said “we will register when poker platform will came out” and they were waiting and waiting.
Regards
Of course not. Lopoca is a Ponzi scheme, giving you back your money isn’t part of the plan.
As I see, a lot of people are not happy, just the whales maybe.
What about if all of us we are making complains to Gaming authorities from Malta, Cyprus Austria?
They cannot play with people, closing accounts and asking the same details as you been register. Some people change countries, bank, address, no utilities in your name if you rent a house, so HOW THEY CAN DO THIS?
If you can prove with ID, PASSPORT, you are the same person who been register yrs ago, why they ask this shits?
JUST TO DONT GIVE MONEY BACK!!!
Shame on you.
possible CHANCE to get money partly back (only for Austrian Players of the Nugget-Game) !!!
Due to a special jurisdiction in Austria, “Gamblers” (with losses) have a Chance to get back Money (partly) from gaming-companies which operates from abroad without any austrian permission to run online-gaming in Austria.
Please contact your legal advisor and Show this jurisdical decision (below your find the link to official juristical decision database in austra) of July 2017 (ris.bka.gv.at/Dokument.wxe?Abfrage=Justiz&Dokumentnummer=JJT_20170727_OGH0002_0040OB00124_17I0000_000)
of course, an attorney costs some money, so only for bigger loosers, such a lawsuit makes any sense, please consider this.
These are really good News to stop this Kind of businesses !!
@XXX
How likely do you think it is that the Austrian courts will successfully recover money that is held in Malta, or other offshore jurisdictions, on behalf of Austrian investors?
Naturally, if you have significant losses, you should consult an attorney, but beware of throwing good money after bad.
A decent attorney will not charge you money to take a case where there is little hope of recovering damages, even if you win in the Austrian courts.
@Malthusian – i understand your Position, and normally i would argue in the same direction…. but there has been already some Decissions in exactly that direction and parts of Money came back from gambling-losses (strange also for me that this is possilble, believe me) – but, all the Decissions were made under exclusion of public, so not many People know about that possibility and only companies with employees or founders in Austria pay back Money.
in case of Lopoca, the founder, the main Investor and a lot of other key-peoples still live in Austria and want to make Business in Austria, so they could be forced to pay and the will pay to Keep the peace and chances for further Business…..
how likly it is, i cannot say but the Basics are already worked out by lawyers, several decisions are made by high Courts any further case will be cheaper than the first case…..
i think it depends on how much People go this way and how expensive this could be for companies with key-people in Austria……if it is too expensive, it could happen that you win, but nobody gives you the Money…
the field is still fresh and i hope some could get back parts of their losses, but definately not all….
460 pages, 11,479 posts and 2,019,520 accesses about LOPOCA (unfortunately only in German) with lots of tips and tricks and recommendations:
NOLINK://ariva.de/forum/lopoca-524070?page=459
the consumer protection agency (Arbeiterkammer Vorarlberg) of on state in Austria is collecting informations and data of Persons suffering losses from Lopoca Nuggetgame……maybe they check out or prepare a “pattern suit”???
If you are from Vorarlberg and you have losses please contact them….
UPDATE – Consumer Protection Agency Actions – for the Moment only one Country-Agency is officially collecting Information against lopoca (pls address Dr. Valandro in Vorarlberg) and its most active sellers.
Any given Information, Video, text message, Posting can help to bring lopoca and/or active Members to pay back Money for losses – but as an austrian citizen you can also go to your local Consumer Protection Agency, they will cooperate on national Basis, bring all the material you have – take your Chance 🙂