Legacy Builders Review: Digital Growth Community gifting scheme
Legacy Builders, which also goes by Digital Growth Community, fails to provide ownership or executive information on its website.
Presently Digital Growth Community is set up on Kajabi, specifically on the subdomain “digitalgrowthcommunity.mykajabi.com”.
On its website Kajabi pitches itself as an all-in-one “profitable business” platform;
Kajabi is an all-in-one platform that equips you to build your ideal business. No matter your creator needs, we’ll provide the tools to succeed. All under one roof.
Further research reveals Legacy Builders marketing citing Michele Oneil as “creator” of the company.
In one Legacy Builders marketing video, Oneil claims she created the company because she was “burned out on network marketing”.
Prior to launching Legacy Builders earlier this year, Oneil was a promoter of Infinity Processing System.
Infinity Processing System, or IPS, is a three-tier gifting scheme launched in 2022.
IPS was created by Adriana Villegas, a serial promoter of fraudulent MLM pyramid schemes.
Read on for a full review of Legacy Builders’ MLM opportunity.
Legacy Builders’ Products
Legacy Builders has no retailable products or services.
Affiliates are only able to market Legacy Builders affiliate membership itself.
Bundled with Legacy Builders affiliate membership is access to various digital marketing products and services.
Legacy Builders’ Compensation Plan
Upon signing up, Legacy Builders affiliates then participate in a four-tier gifting scheme.
- LaunchPad – $100
- Passive Daily Pay Blueprint – $300
- Digital Mastery – $600
- Legacy Builders Program $900
Buying into a Legacy Builders gifting tier qualifies an affiliate to receive gifting payments from recruited affiliates who also buy into the tier.
The MLM side of Legacy Builders exists by way of lower tier affiliates passing up higher tier gifting payments to their upline(s).
How this works is whatever tier a Legacy Builders affiliate buys into is the tier they qualify to earn up to.
E.g. Buying in at Digital Mastery qualifies you to receive $100, $300 and $600 gifting payments from recruited affiliates.
Digital Mastery doesn’t qualify you to receive $900 Legacy Builders Program tier gifting payments. These payments are passed upline to the first affiliate who has gifted in at the Legacy Builders Program tier.
This qualification tied to gifting payment tiers allows Legacy Builders affiliates who have gifted in at $900 to receive non-qualified gifting payments from anywhere in their downline.
Update 11th June 2024 – While the upline pass-ups are very much a thing in Legacy Builders, the way it’s implemented is worse than your typical gifting scheme.
Upline pass-ups in Legacy Builders are paid straight to the top admin position, owned by Michele Oneil. In this way Oneil screws Legacy Builders promoters out of higher tier gifting payments made by their recruits.
This makes Legacy Builders a substantially worse scam than your typical MLM gifting scheme. /end update
Joining Legacy Builders
Legacy Builders affiliate membership is tied to a $100 to $900 gifting payment.
The more a Legacy Builders affiliate pays the higher their income potential.
Legacy Builders Conclusion
While Infinity Processing System’s website is still up, SimilarWeb tracked just ~2400 monthly visits to it for April 2024.
For an gifting scheme, which relies on constant unsustainable pyramid recruitment to survive, this is as good as collapsed.
With that knowledge, why Michele Oneil went off to launch her own clone illegal gifting scheme earlier this year becomes obvious.
Top recruiters in MLM gifting schemes make more than their victims but there’s one person who makes even more; the owner of the scam.
And so we have Legacy Builders, wherein Oneil has replaced IPS’ Adriana Villegas with herself. That’s pretty much all there is to Legacy Builders.
As to Legacy Builders’ business model, what I wrote about IPS in 2022 applies here;
The gifting element exists by way of 100% of membership fees being paid out as recruitment commissions. This is most noticeable at the Pro tier, where every recruit gifts their membership fee to the person who recruited them.
Lower tier affiliates pass-up portional gifting payments to upline affiliates who paid more in membership fees.
This is “pay to play”, one of the hallmarks of an MLM pyramid scheme.
We can confirm Infinity Processing System is a pyramid scheme, by way of 100% of commissions paid out being tied to recruitment.
In light of Infinity Processing System operating as a pyramid scheme, the digital products bundled with membership fees are neither here nor there.
MLM companies without retail sales operate as pyramid schemes. Bundling products to membership fees doesn’t change the otherwise fraudulent business model.
MLM pyramid schemes require a constant stream of new recruits to pay commissions out.
When they inevitably collapse, math guarantees the majority of participants in MLM pyramid schemes lose money.
IPS has effectively collapsed, resulting in the majority of participants losing money (such is the unsustainable math of gifting schemes).
Many of Oneil’s IPS victims (and those she recruited early), will have likely followed her into Legacy Builders.
Oneil’s victims, those she personally recruited towards the end of IPS, will be hoping to recoup their losses by recruiting new victims into Legacy Builders.
Oneil’s early recruits, who like herself stole money from those who were recruited after, will be looking to keep the gifting payments gravy train rolling.
One last point I want to touch on is Kajabi hosting Legacy Builders.
Michele Oneil is based out of Kansas. Kajabi is based out of California.
In the US gifting schemes are illegal. They are investigated and prosecuted as fraudulent business opportunities by the USPS, FTC and DOJ.
A recent example of a gifting scheme being taken down by US authorities is Blessings In No Time (BINT).
The FTC filed suit against BINT’s co-founders in June 2021. The DOJ followed up with criminal charges in November 2023.
Whether Kajabi is aware its platform is being used to defraud consumers through an illegal gifting scam is unclear.
I also noticed Legacy Builders is processing payments through Stripe, which provides access to third-party payment services like Google Pay, Link, Klarna and AfterPay.
I’m not sure if this is being accessed through Kajabi or another platform.
Either way, it’s another point of failure if any of these companies investigate Legacy Builders’ fraudulent business model.
Stripe has now banned all accounts that sell “digital” products. This could spell the end for Legacy Builders.
Don’t count on them being around for much longer when this ban goes into full effect, as I feel that many other credit card processors will follow suit.
Another one bites the dust!?
Hopefully PayPal and cash app follow. Why people buy these mlm schemes is beyond me.
So Oz? From my understanding, and I checked with a couple people involved in the LBP, your statement is false??
No moneys or balances get paid upline. THAT would be considered MLM?
I was told/assured that it was 100% profit and “resale” rights. None of the $100 to $900 program purchases go past the person you directly purchase from.
It kind of sounds the same as if you bought a Tony Robbins package/program from him “directly”. One would purchase his package because they felt there was value for them right? Honestly, how is this any different?
Hopefully we might have a civil discussion on this. I would think the couple friends, who are involved and well aware of the other program, would understand that no monies get passed upline making it an MLM.
Your thoughts…
I gift in at $100 and recruit a sucker who gifts in at $900. I get $100 (or nothing), where does the rest of the money go?
Typically in gifting scams the difference is passed up to the first qualified gifter (whoever has bought in at the applicable tier).
Don’t tell me Michele Oneil is just pocketing it. That would indeed make Legacy Builders not MLM, and also an even worse scam than it already is.
Purchasing a Tony Robbins ticket isn’t the same as paying a gifting scheme to qualify to receive gifting payments through a scam. This should be obvious.
First off, your terminology is 100% one sided. So if you purchase the $100 program, your abilities are limited to the $100 program purchase. You do not even have the option of showing/sharing the other options to anyone “beyond your purchase” they are not accessible to share. I hope that helps you understand that misinterpretation in judgement.
It’s a sale not a gift? You are buying a complete marketing system (Ozedit: snip, see below)
OZ grab this screenshot before this program jumping PUNK takes it down and moves on to the next one.
facebook.com/photo?fbid=7538002319646879&set=a.204457576334760
“$27,000 in 10 Days” SCAMMER Caujuan (MLM JUMPER) Mayo.
I can’t make this stuff up.
He went from LiveGood to selling CBD to SoFi to Nexus Rewards to Legacy Builder all in one month. I done lost track of how many deals this clown has done in just 2024.
Always that one person who defends an mlm lol. Why do you think they changed their name? Because IPS wasn’t getting anymore recruitment.
Their is no value in it. Nothing more than what you can read for free online or from a $30 book from Amazon.
Legacy Builders is an illegal gifting scheme. This “terminology” is factual.
That’s nice. Now what if someone I recruit signs up, gifts in $100 to join and then logs in to their backoffice and upgrades to the $900 tier. Where does the money go?
A “sale” doesn’t qualify you to scam people by recruiting them into an illegal gifting scheme so they can scam others.
Arguing terminology when it comes to fraud = pseudo-compliance. Doesn’t work with regulators and isn’t tolerated here.
@jon
You must be:
1. New
2. Naive
3. Both
4. Pretending to be both
These “digital courses” programs don’t last. The same group of people promoting it will be promoting other similar programs when Legacy dies down.
They’re already promoting 6 to 10 other similar programs as we speak.
Hardly anyone looks at or completes the digital courses.
The scheme is to get everyone on board (preferably at $900 ’cause you won’t make much at $100 a pop) Spam social media with promises of lots of daily, weekly, monthly, thousands of dollars earnings as quickly as possible before the authorities start knocking on doors.
Meanwhile, you paid up to $900 to be on someone’s mailing list for “The Next Big Thing” a few months down the line.
Rinse and repeat.
Exactly what I thought would happen??? You answered my questions with “your” assumptions??? Can’t verify anything except “your thoughts??? (Ozedit: dummy spit removed)
You didn’t answer my simple question so spam-bin.
Thankyou for confirming Legacy Builders is an illegal MLM gifting scheme. Best of luck with the scamming.
I am the founder of the Legacy Builder Program which is an interactive program that teaches how to grow a following on social media, how to build and email list, how to create content that converts, comes with a complete automated sales funnel system and how to master getting income earning activities done in 2 hours a day.
There is no gifting and there is no tiers and no upline. The information that you are sharing is not even close to the truth.
We have a community of over 22,000 and we proved 5 live zooms weekly to help our community grow a successful business if that is through master resell rights, through affiliate marketing, through their own product service or program.
My best recommendation before you try to tear other people down you may want to make sure you have the correct details. I am more then happy to speak with you even get on a zoom and walk you through the process.
Why 4 programs. It’s no different than anything. Not everyone wants the same thing. So each program is equip with strategies to help them achieve certain goals.
Let me know if you’d like to talk so you stop putting incorrect information out there.
It’s also an illegal gifting scheme, which first and foremost is the problem.
Historically denying fraud hasn’t worked well for scammers.
No different than other illegal gifting schemes? Sure. From a regulatory perspective there is no difference between Legacy Builders and other illegal gifting schemes like Infinity Processing System, Blessings In No Time and countless others.
Reboot schemes don’t last as long as their predecessors. Best of luck with the scamming Michele.
Because you love the phrase “gifting scheme” I googled it
You are so off the mark. Legacy Builder is an educational interactive program. (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Legacy Builders is absolutely “a type of illegal pyramid scheme where people are recruited to give money to other members in the hope of receiving more money in return from future members”.
Adding bullshit to an illegal gifting scheme doesn’t make it legal. Any more so than adding bullshit to a pyramid or Ponzi scheme.
Your honor I didn’t murder the guy…
You were apprehended at the scene, standing over the body with the weapon in your hand. Police heard you screaming, “I KILLED THE GUY! IT WAS ME! I DID IT!”
Yeah but I was eating an icecream at the time…
Oh in that case totally not murder then. You’re free to go.
Most of you seem old enough to know being disingenuous about fraud won’t work. The old “eDuCaTiOn” + illegal gifting scheme has been around for over a decade. Used to be ebook libraries back in the day.
I’m in Legacy Builders. I actually joined for the training instead of reselling the program to others. Bad decision on my part, the training is not worth $900.
I know I can’t get my money back but I’ll definitely be reporting them to Stripe and PayPal. I’m not going to resell the “training” to get my money back, I’ll just chalk it up as a loss and lesson learned.
I found out about this article because Michele is whining in the group chat about getting a good lawyer to go after Oz. Lol, silly woman.
Ah. I take it this is where the flood of old bitties trying to spam the comments came from.
Re. legal action, any competent lawyer will advise gifting schemes are illegal in the US. It’s not like there isn’t decades of FTC and USPS caselaw as supporting evidence.
Michele Renee O’neil is a known con artist.
File a report against her and her company Expect 2 Win LLC (business id 9988562) with the Kansas Attorney Generals office and FTC if you were ripped off like I was.
Her business address (virtual address) is:
2611 SW 17th St. Ste. 265 Topeka, KS 66604
I have lost thousands of dollars with her between her Nerium pyramid followed by being suckered into Infinity Processing System.
When Michele ran out of people to scam with IPS she took Adriana Villegas gifting model and ripped it off with rehashed garbage known as Digital Growth Community/Legacy Builder.
Legacy Builder is just another overpriced MRR bullshit like Hannah & Zachs roadmap course.
In fact MRR (master resale rights) is nothing but a spin off abbreviation of PLR (private label rights) and is nothing new. Same old, rehashed cheap training that you can find for FREE on YOUTUBE!
The one theme I noticed with IPS, Legacy Builder and the MRR crap is that everyone peddling this scam on zooms are mostly women.
Michele is targeting gullible and naive women on social media, both young and old, stay at home moms, single moms, etc. Basically the bottom of the barrel, low class, lottery mentality idiots.
They then teach them to turn around and do the same thing to sucker other people in with TikTok dances and lying about how much they make.
They don’t even show substantiation of income, they just say “I made $900 while I was at the doctors office”, no screenshots or anything just a bunch of liars to lure you in.
Michelle is teaching the fake it method. There is a YouTube channel sharing all her training that she teaches members to lie about making sales and telling the booger eaters to exaggerate how many sales they have made in a week.
This is no different than digital altitude. I expect that she will receive a TRO from the justice department and freeze all her assets in the near future once the FTC complaints accumulate.
this is Michele’s video from her “community group” from the skool app.
loom.com/share/ea2716d86de947d79f14eca8f326eb69?sid=c555c68e-b81f-40b0-9b62-803ef1468ba7
I was part of her tech support team when legacy first launched. I have seen first hand what she has her tech team do to rip off unsuspecting people that can’t figure out the tech side of things.
Michele also talks a lot about “no tech skills needed” that’s a bunch of bull crap. she takes advantage of the non tech savvy ppl and hides links to her stripe in their websites and such.
all the “upline” sales go to her and only her. she is 100% a scam artist.
The reason you can’t sell the $900 Legacy Builders Program when you only have the $100 Launchpad is because how can you market trainings or products you don’t have? (Ozedit: snip, see below)
@Kiel
Right. Just like everything else in life, you can’t market something unless you’ve personally bought it. RIP airline/travel sales teams, medical equipment sales teams etc.
Stop making excuses for fraud.
@Adam
This alone constitutes violations of the FTC Act (deceptive marketing, deceptive income claims etc.).
@Db
Thanks for clarifying that. Neither Michele or anyone in Legacy Builders wanted to address this.
Michele keeping all the “upsell” gifting payments makes Legacy Builders a worse gifting scam than your typical MLM gifting scheme (IPS, BINT etc.).
It’s still MLM; Michele is the ultimate upline through her admin position(s). Instead of members stealing “unqualified” gifting payments though everything goes to her. I’ll make a note of this in the review.
It is great seeing the scammers get shown the door! Looks like there is trouble in Michele’s future – which seems to be totally deserved!
Master Resell Rights (MRR) and pyramid schemes differ significantly. (Ozedit: snip, see below)
bravo encore oz. keep up the great work. and thank you! SB
@Rand
You can call a gifting scheme whatever you want. It’s still a fraudulent business model that is illegal in the US.
Need to add something here. When Michele Oneil launched her Legacy Builder program she was promoting for $29.00 website fee for 7 streams of income. This was the same time IPS was updating their website for $23.00.
What Michele was doing is if you had the IPS levels $50 $150 $300 $600 she was adding her $100 $300 $600 which after everyone jumped over to Legacy there no longer was 7 streams.
You can’t promote both. This is where IPS lost. Michele Oneil is one of the biggest scammers out there.
There is so much more to this! MO rips off her own team members. Everytime she has a webinar and sends you the registration link your potential client is snatched up and Michele (with one L) starts sending you emails (over 40) and drives all sales to her.
further to a comment up above Michele was already accused of hyperlinking her websites and pages back to her domain amd when she created legacy she did the same thing again.
The naked eye cannot catch it. No one’s mentioned that any opposition to her is met with snide comments and complete shut down.
She has a group of henchmen (or women.. Mathia) that creep your social media pages and your lives reporting them back to Michele!
This environment is complete cultist and Toxic and if you are not successful you are deemed uncoachable.
When ppl actually stop (cause they stopped in IPS TOO) It takes a lot of strength to continue on in the money making space.
BTW.. the 7 streams of income is completely true.. she loaded and tricked all.thise that joined ips in March to purchase now.. so that they would have 7 streams of income!
When legacy was launched…guess what? no more talk of ips but Michele is still on the 7 day leaderboard in IPS. THIS PERSON IS RUINING DIGITAL MARKETING!
Boy, there is SO MUCH to unpack with this article and all the comments.
I watched the loom video posted by commenter Db above where Michele says dogs don’t bark at parked cars. Not only might dogs bark at moving cars, they also bark at intruders! It’s not one-sided.
I was looking at Legacy Builders but have found out many concerning things from reputable people that have proof. Here is a list.
1. She has spies who go to people’s LIVES to screenshot/record to send back to Michele. When she sees that someone said something she doesn’t like she kicks them out of the community.
And, if any of that person’s customers showed up in the chat of a LIVE, she booted them as well. Crazy!
She has kicked people out for speaking out about the 2hr workday, doing a video where no names were mentioned but spoke about not feeling right about something (guilty much to boot them), and about the bait and switch of the marketed 7 streams of income which the average person would not be able to manage or pay the extra cost to maintain 2 domains or manage 2 funnels, or the cost of a Stan store.
Those specifics were apparently left unsaid when she gave the marching orders to market 7 streams of income. Tsk, tsk!
2. She puts hidden links inside of the funnel system SHE gives them for free. It’s her funnel with already created emails where she puts her ‘hidden link(s)’ which when clicked on go to her website in essence stealing customers.
3. Regarding the funnel she gives you, she is an affiliate. She doesn’t show you how to give your funnel link to your customers so you can receive the affiliate commission.
She is therefore making affiliate commissions off of everyone in her community that need to upgrade their funnel after 2,000 emails in their automation funnel. Shame on her!
I did some research and maybe that’s why she is listed as #3 in affiliate commissions with Systeme.io. Interesting, very interesting!
4. Webinars – Boy oh boy! She makes you register with your email and she takes that email and puts it in her email automations.
Why does this matter? It matters as that person did not give consent to subscribe to her and people were wondering why they started getting emails from her when they never subscribed to her domain landing page. That has to be some kind of illegal privacy offense.
It also matters because she is attempting to lure that person to purchase from her as she made more money and can give a better offer for someone to join with her such as gift cards, one-on-one time with her, etc. where someone who is struggling cannot make such offers. That, to me, is attempting to steal.
5. I did attend a webinar and wow, how people are talked to that had legitimate questions and/or concerns was mind blowing to me. Holy Moly!
I watched a couple of webinar replays and 1 guy was going to not pay his bills to join in hopes of recouping that money to pay his bills when he was ‘launch to profit’ in 7 days.
Another one was in mortgage foreclosure and wondered if he was making the right decision to not make any payments and join so he could make $900 in a week.
Of course, she always says, yes, do it. I personally would never advise someone to stop paying their bills or mortgage to join a business where there are no guarantees. Good for her business, bad for their lives!
It’s a hard NO for me. I wouldn’t want to give her $29 for a website fee even if I would have purchased from someone else. And, certainly wouldn’t want to bring anyone else on board to give her $29 knowing what’s going on behind the scenes!
If Db’s comment is accurate, and I believe it is, then the incredibly bad business practices continue.
6. Let’s talk about what I see all over the digital marketing side of TikTok. There are tons of people with the name dailypay as their username and, I would guess, their business name!
Just stop! You are branding Michele who coined the term.
She doesn’t mind at all and I would guess she has never once, at the time of this post of mine, explicity told anyone to stop doing that besides just her saying to brand yourself.
She should be telling everyone NOT to use her business name in their name! Marketing 101 right here folks!
7. Michele has mentioned in her lives that she is successful because of her ethics. Let me provide a different perspective.
There are PLENTY of people who would be seen as successful but have no ethics. We all can name some. You can be successful in the world of business without being ethical.
People steal, cheat, and lie there way to the top all the time. It happens every day. Don’t be fooled by her statement.
8. All the income claim videos splattered all across social media. PUHLEASE! (Yes, spelled incorrectly for emphasis). Those are FTC violations you are willingly and glady, although maybe unknowingly, putting into the mighty hands of the FTC.
Do typical wealthy people promote every day what they made? Where are those videos? Does Warren Buffet flaunt his income daily? I’m looking for it.
If the only way you can attract your customers is through income claim videos then you are short-sighted, my friend.
The FTC took down a guy from 1, just 1, income claim video to the tune of 30 million and settled for 3 million. Wait until the FTC gets their hands on the hundreds out there from Michele and her community.
It seems to me that O’Neil/Legacy Program/Expect2Win LLC are ripe for the FTC to take swift action.
I’m all about having a diverse business portfolio but adding this would not be adding any value but actually put my business, if purchased, in jeopardy. I would not be the least surprised if a class-action lawsuit resulted from the hundreds or even thousands that feel ripped-off, taken advantage of, mistreated by, and disgusted by the slimy marketing techniques employed by Michele.
Let the chips fall where they may. I walked away and now all I have to do is sit back, eat some popcorn, and watch the movie unfold! Chomp, chomp!
From reading all the testimonials in the comments it appears Michelle created Legacy Builders for all the wrong reasons. Serious corruption.
She should close down and disappear before the ftc takes all her money and family members money that benefited from the ponzi scam. Or worse “Bernie Madoff”.
To be fair after Oneil did her video a bunch of participants rocked up to try on the ol’ “i JoInEd FoR tHe EdUcAtIoN!” nonsense. Spam-binned as you can’t make that claim when everyone is a participant in the gifting scheme.
Also if you run a few searches you soon realize income claims is what Legacy Builders is primarily marketed on.
@barb. I 100% agree with every statement you made about O’Neil. I have first hand knowledge of everything she does/doesn’t do.
I was on her payroll for her legacy builder before it launched. I was 1 of her top tech support ppl. I’m also still in her community because I’ve shut my mouth and “left” so I could gather more evidence about what she is doing so I can file a lawsuit against her for everything she’s done to me.
I won’t disclose everything but she has lied, manipulated, stole and scammed me and all 22,000+ people in her community.
she has been doing this since 2016 and those that speak bad about her get shut up real quick because of her “minions” that I’ll get your social media’s taken down and get your business shut down.
she will lock you out of your training but still let you have your website. but she will have her tech support ppl go in and change the payment links to hers on YOUR website. so she makes the money and then you feel like you’re not doing enough to get sales.
Comment from OZ…
OZ, since it is marketed primarily off of income claims, what will it take for the FTC to get involved?
This has put a huge stain on the online business field from which many will not recover. If you want to file a complaint here is the info….
go to ftc.gov/complaint and bbb.org
It is best to give them as much detail as possible about anyones personal experience and how many income claim videos are out there, shoot, even put some of the links to those income claim videos inside the complaint.
There are reputable ways to really learn digital marketing and I know several products/courses/entrepreneurs that are worth learning from and Michele O’Neil is not one of them.
Ask lots of questions in this space and listen to what is NOT said as well.
If someone tells you there is no follow up…. RUN.
If they say that the only time in your day you can count towards building your business is the highly marketed ‘2hr income earning activities’… RUN.
If someone says if you follow everything I do step by step you will be in profit mode in 7 days… RUN.
It seems to me that ALL the effort you put into your business from attending learning sessions, attending webinars, building a community are all income earning activities as it makes you better at what you do, more confident to speak about your business opportunity and drives more customers to you.
IT ALL MATTERS! So, it will take more than 2hrs of your day. I would bet money that Michele works even more than 5hrs/day total with her daily vidoes, Zoom meetings, hiring support, her subscriber lives, and creating yet another level of income where you can now make even more than $900/day…now it’s $1,150/day. That’s 419,750/yr. WOW! Who wouldn’t want that opportunity for just working 2hrs/day?
I even heard her talk about staying on a mentor call for 5 hours to answer questions. Well, now, that’s more than 2hrs in your day. Let’s stop the gross click bait marketing tactics and really help people in a truly ethical way!
I am aware how much time gets invested in creating modules and building a sustainable business. It’s ALOT!
Most people in that community are NOT making DAILY pay. Michele is probably the only one. I saw a video where Aimee, one of her minions, commented that Michele is the only one making daily pay and that Aimee herself was struggling.
People inside her community that don’t align with her stay silent because they know they will get kicked out if there is any sort of disagreement as the Db commenter stated above.
People stay for the hope and promise of making $900 every single day. Most will not. I would love to see an actual percentage of people who follow everything step by step and have yet to make a single sale.
And another thing she says all the time is that ‘inside her community, on average, 1 out of 20 buy’ What she is saying is that for every 20 emails in someone automations a single purchase is made and that is considered the goal standard.
Let’s look at this. How in the world can she even know the community average? It is just a number thrown out there to have a number to say consistently. In order for her to know that her community average is 1 out of 20, she has to know every single person’s conversion numbers and average them together.
What are the chances she knows 22,000 people’s numbers? I am going to take a wild guess and say SHE HAS NO CLUE about everyone’s individual numbers because everyone would need to report their own numbers (# of emails in automation system against # of purchasers) to her (which some would alter to make themselves look better).
Then and only then can she state her COMMUNITY average. With ‘22,000’ people in her community, many are not active, left, or were kicked out.
I would venture an educated guess that the stat inside the community is not nearly 1 out of 20. But 1 out of 20 certainly sounds good!
I believe in everyone having an online business and finding their niche to help people solve a problem. Just find someone and vet them and not get caught up in the glitz and glamour of making $900/day. You most likely will not and that my friend is the truth not stinkin’ thinkin’.
@Db well, you can and should create your own LP/site instead to promote the program. You will have control over your own links and everything is yours.
problem solved!
Michele is a manipulative liar. I purchased from her when she was selling IPS and she kicked me out of the community just because I was recommending others to brand themselves and post their own videos.
She has her links and videos all over her templates and sends them to her YouTube channel as a way to redirect your customers to her. And guess who ends up getting the sales.
She preys on the technically challenged people. She tells her followers that she started with no knowledge, yet her LinkedIn profile clearly indicates that she has been helping small businesses grow their business for over 25 years.
linkedin.com/in/michele-o-neil-abb95522b
Michele your day will come and soon everything will come to light. Keep up with the income claims as the FTC is watching and will come for you too. I just pray it happens soon before you continue scamming more people.
It’s amazing to see Michelle on this thread in the character of “I’m just a sweet woman helping people” when I have a group of 10 friends who signed up together this last winter with her scam, are not making any money, and in two cases they invested their last savings into the program because they believed in Michelle so much.
She steals their leads by giving them funnels that direct traffic back to her.
By not having links that track where people first entered funnels, most people do not realize she’s stolen their leads.
We’re not “tearing you down” we’re exposing what is obvious to those of us watching from the outside.
I also encourage people to check out Michelle’s lives from six months ago compared to now, she’s cracking a bit, meaner, and clearly having to work harder to keep up her sales.
That will continue to trickle down to those who have bought from her.
Which will double the second she releases the full program in Spanish soon. Awful.
Maybe she’s tricked herself into thinking she is helping people – in which case, she needs to wake up. She’s too far removed, because I promise you I’m seeing people go down in real time.
I don’t know how she sleeps at night. Either she’s a fool who can’t see how deeply she’s harming people, or she’s evil.
Two very bad options, both inflicting a lot of stress and pain on her victims.
So no, Michelle, we’re not tearing you down. We’re tired of watching you use people. Try and spin it any way you’d like. I know the truth, and you’re a horrible person. I hope the gov. catches up with you and you’re held accountable.
I find this article and the comments very sad.
You are saying things that are false. This is not a gifting scheme. Its an interactive online program (Ozedit: snip, see below)
What’s sad is the level of cognitive dissonance from grown adults pretending an obvious gifting scam is not an obvious gifting scam.
If you give someone a fixed sum of money and that payment qualifies you to receive fixed sums of money from subsequently recruited people, you’re in a gifting scheme. Whatever else is attached to or built around that core business model is irrelevant.
You can call this fraudulent business model an “interactive online program”, an “ice cream sundae”, “the space between your ears” or any other name you want, it’s still an illegal gifting scheme.
And lying to people about what Legacy Builders is is part of the fraud.
If you can’t even admit that basic truth you don’t get to carry on like a disingenuous pork chop. Own your thievery and stop lying to people.
The ultimate pick-me-up is logging onto behindmlm and seeing everything is updated.
You come for the reviews, you stay for the comments.
Sucks to be Michelle right now.
For the non believers on here. Wake up I was part of this scam. Michele Oneil only looks after herself. Will take your email list and email her information to them taking away your sales.
She is very rude to others in her community. If you say you are not making any money and you did everything step by step as being told to do.
She makes it your problem You are not consistent You don’t have the right mindset. Even though you followed her so called coaching. This leaves a person feeling defeated and broke.
Her so called top earners are just as bad. Lying about not having any success before but clearly did. Michele Oneil also clearly lying about her previous experience also.
She was never struggling as she always says that before she started with this program. Made 7figures in a previous marketing business. See a pattern here.
It is all about how good of a lier you are the better you will do in this program.
Do not waste your money on this. And you believers please report her to the FTC so no more people lose their money and become broker than before.
lol..like someone said..come for the article and NOW wait each day for the comments! there have been some really great ones added. OZ, great work.
The issue is that all the ppl and their are 1000s that didn’t make money they have their voices drowned out by the top money makers. the ultimate grifters.. I mean gifters!
I encourage all of you who read this article and haven’t made any money to leave your comment, not to fear anything and trust that you can make money in another viable online business.
there are 1000s of us out here, great ppl who are ethical and will help you. What everyone doesn’t realize is the the DGC only supports big winners!
if you are not successful then your confidence, moral and self esteem can suffer. I urge you to leave a comment (type an alias) so that others can know they are not alone! Don’t let this stop you from earning income another way!
MICHELE ONEIL CAN SUCK IT. The devil appears in all forms!!!!
Very sad to see caujuan mayo continue to brag about personal sales but can’t show even 10 people that paid him $900 make a sale after paying him.
wow good to know.
I had those links in my emails..email 4 and 7 if I remember correctly, they were blue little hyperlinks… I went through the whole funnel and redid every punctuation… should not have to do that. But I did…
she is jet setting now… trips and porsches… teslas.. alot is curiously Givin to her kids as far as businesses.. hair salons and real estate… hiding the million and a half???
I have the video of her fake crying when she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar!!! But her cult following backed her up as they will now.
I cannot watch her without thinking you con artist.. she talks to people horribly and she has kicked people out but brought some back too… weird in itself.
I got one statement to make… “How come she’s the only one that made a million and a half US DOLLARS… not Ran..?”
RUN.. Get out… and you had people like amie drinking her koolaid and leaving a job after 18 years smh…
Michele is a very vile person… don’t tell me different, watched this for a longggg time.. She has her clique of individuals that she thrives upon.. they better jump ship cause the o’neill tanker is sinking!!!
ps Mike ya need to maybe jump ship too… hahahaha
Seriously Not understanding how this is considered A scheme. I come fromMLM. There aren’t any uplines HERE (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Legacy Builders being MLM isn’t what makes it a “scheme”. Legacy Builders being an illegal gifting scam is what makes it a “scheme”.
If you’re not understanding the review maybe hire someone who finished elementary level math to explain it to you.
If you’ve read the review and comments and are still pretending you don’t understand what an illegal gifting scheme is, you’re being dishonest.
I like many others got sucked in by the promise of money and 2 hours work day. I soon realized this wasn’t possible.
I started from scratch no online presence in years. When I asked for help I was belittled. I gave 2000% more in that Cult Community than I got.
When I questioned who Michele was I got h€ll unleashed against me, her minions tell every thing said or questioned.
Michele wasn’t poor or single yes 6 kids & grandkids. She lives with Boyfriend of over 8 years they scammed people in some of the same ways she is doing now.
Her earlier videos she claims being single on vacations filming, he’s doing the same thing at the same places they’re both scamming people.
They both claimed 7 figures before she stole IPS and added her MLM draw to it. This was built for MLMERS to resell downline.
The so called program is complete no value at all unless you want to listen to nonstop lies on their enteractive atta boy circle jerk.
This wasn’t built for sales for all it was built for sales for Michele and her Cult of MLMERS, Victoria, Tim, Aimee, Maryanne, Darrell, Mathia, Tracy, Jeffrey, I hope your not spending that money. The FTC DOJ will be coming for it.
To all you sniffing Lying copy cat tattle tales rating on everyone to keep the crumbs Michele allows you to have. KARMA is a ..itch and your day is coming I just hope the cuffs are put on live.
I’ll fly to see Michele get cuffed and her fraud money possessions auctioned off.
OK first of all I didn’t come on here disrespecting you. I wanted to share my experience and honestly wanted to know what you were calling a gifting scheme exactly. (Ozedit: snip, see below)
@FEDUP
If you can’t logically read this and figure it out there’s nothing anyone can do to explain it to you. MLM’S are different today than 20 years ago. GIFTING is also an old scam.
When your community is filled with top earners all being from MLM backgrounds that brought with them huge email lists of their uplines downlines sidelines that’s a problem. You recruit (zoom) in that manner for quick money quick build of community which destroys your product.
It was never about the product it’s about money. Thats why she copied it to Legacy and added a bunch of thrown together modules to appear as if, including interactive to appear as if.
If Michele is doing just half of what’s posted here the Gov is already on her, and anyone in that group. I believe it’s the tip of the iceberg.
You seriously can’t listen to this women speak for even a week without questioning everything she’s said, it’s quite obvious she’s a master at spin & hope which is worse.
And people making fast money out of thin air, bring their people with them, they will quite literally tell you anything to keep that money rolling in.
There are thousands who’ve no made zero or very little. I believe there will be multiple lawsuits with Gov action and anyone connected will pay the price.
Take it with a grain of salt it’s not going to end well for thousands. They can’t play innocent now.
Your eXpErIeNcE in an illegal gifting scheme doesn’t matter. In fact we already know what your eXpErIeNcE is; The only people who want to share their eXpErIeNcE in an illegal gifting scheme pre-collapse are scammers who got in early and are stealing money.
This is not constructive with respect to due-diligence of consumers (potential victims). Nor does it change the fact Legacy Builders is an illegal gifting scheme in which the majority of participants are mathematically guaranteed to lose money.
If you want to know why Legacy Builders is an illegal gifting scheme, scroll up and read the review.
This message iS directly to Michele Oneil I know you are reading these comments. When you degrade others like you said in your loom video about this article when you said “Sure people you talk to are going to see this probably not a lot because they do not get a lot of views” Can you not see how she is degrading others.
She is the worst of worse. Not only with her proven HIDDEN LINKS Her proven STOLEN EMAIL LIST. But the whole fact you prey on the vulnerable and desperate.
If you have 20,000 plus community members and you say all the time “THIS IS A PROVEN BLUEPRINT” then they should all be making money RIGHT? But they are not.
So I hope everyone big or small goes after you and reports you to the FTC for your corrupt misleading information “YOU ARE GIVING TO OTHERS” like you think this article is.
We have fallen victim to your BS and no one else should have to. SO EVERYONE REPORT HER TO THE FTC. If you do not know how please comment and we can help you. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.
Michele Oneil makes a living stealing money from people through gifting schemes. I don’t think she cares whether she’s degrading people tbh.
These comments about Michele, Legacy and her ways…are so spot on. We out here are trying to do something for our families, trying to make a difference for them by supplementing our income.
To read these comments brings me happiness in the sense that so many others are spreading the word.
To Oz, thank you for starting this… the gifting and FTC will take care of her, but to have this forum to reveal Michele Oneil as a person and possibly help others… well this is the best!
This article… I believe started the ball rolling and is what I hope is the beginning of the end!
Special HONORABLE mention… and I mean that to Anette and Sandy cook! I encourage all (use a pseudonym) to post! The stories are all the same so they won’t find out) Today is another great day!!
As someone who mistakenly bought into the Digital Growth Community, lured by the promise of quickly escaping financial debt, I deeply regret getting drawn in. I want to help others avoid making the same mistake.
Master Resell Rights (MRR) itself is not a scam. It is a legitimate business model where individuals are granted the rights to resell a product, usually a digital product like an e-book, course, or software, and keep 100% of the profits. However, the legitimacy of an MRR offering depends on how it is marketed and implemented.
The DGC lead by Michele engaged in misleading and deceptive marketing practices, such as making false claims about potential earnings, guaranteeing success, or exaggerating the benefits of the product.
My concerns were further heightened upon engaging with the course material, community messages and live trainings, which I found to be deceptive. The encouragement to “fake it until you make it,” coupled with the promotion of fabricated testimonials, raises serious ethical questions.
The product I received is substandard and does not deliver the value that was promised. The course does not enable participants to create and sell their own digital products; rather, it is designed to perpetuate the reselling of the same course. All of the digital marketing tools in this course are focused on that instead of a broader picture.
The business model relies primarily on recruiting new sellers rather than selling a valuable product to end consumers, which resembles a pyramid scheme, which are illegal.
The income claims are so worrying to me because even if you do have success in the short-term, it’s not going to continue forever. MMR will hit a ceiling, as people will begin to understand what it is and it will crumble just like MLM did.
The main problem I had with the course is that the course doesn’t help people add value to their own businesses, or start their own businesses, it’s just a course to show you how to sell onto another person.
You’re not adding value to anyone’s life, you’re basically creating click-bait for people to follow and trying to sell an idea, that for the majority of people will never come true. That is disingenuous.
for you all defending her… there is evidence to prove all of this… I literally had the stuff in mine… others had customers of theirs receiving multiple emails from her… I tested it on myself as well…
look at her linkedin… poor single mom… look at her old pics.. struggling single mom … NOT…
Michele you are vile and rude and shame on you… you talk to people to the point they cry… but you serve the FLUFF to support your jet setting life style… which will end…
she talks about other course creators accusing them of stealing your ideas… came out your mouth.. but didn’t you do that with ips…
this legacy program has links and funnels all over it to steal your leads.. don’t think crystal and the crew pull out the stops on your fraud and you faked cried about it smh..
people get what they give and I am so glad I pivoted from this trash before it was available ick.. there are great ways to earn money online… this is not it.
I am so glad I found this thread, just wish I had found it sooner before I fell victim of this scam. I had been researching for months on different courses to learn digital marketing.
I kept seeing this program and all I could find on it was positive information. I soon found out that the reason I was seeing so much positivity and was that no one wanted to speak out on how BS it is cause they are trying to get their money back.
The “program” leads you to believe that you will learn how to digital market and set up your systems where in fact it is just step by step…copy this here, put that there with no explanation on how to actually set up a system for your own products and it’s just about the legacy program.
As soon as I started diving in I realized I made a big mistake… lesson learned. I cannot try to resell and recoup my money cause I refuse to be a part of another victim falling for this fraud.
I am glad I found this cause it really just confirmed what I was feeling about this.
@Lessonlearned
I was part of Michele’s tech support crew when she first launched legacy. if you have bought within the last 90 days you NEED to contact your bank and report the transaction as fraud.
they will get you your money back. but if you are past 90 days they can’t do anything.
I was naively sucked into the legacy builders scheme, under the false pretense that this program would help me learn expert digital marketing skills to launch or grow any business online.
That is the farthest from the truth. The whole program is designed to have you resell the program to all the poor folks who got suckered into the click bait via income claims just like you did, perpetuating the cycle of high dollar money transfer.
Everyone in the community is then biased and incentivized to act like it’s the greatest thing ever to continue making these high dollar sales.
The step by step instructions to set up the sales funnel were horrible! They make it very difficult even for someone pretty tech savvy, so that you are compelled to pay $150 extra to their tech people to set it all up for you.
They count on you wanting to do this to get up and running, knowing you will be anxious to start recouping the probably $900 you just invested!
In order to have their tech help, you have to give them access to the various accounts with your login info and passwords! And the waiting list to have this service done for you is weeks long!
The website domain cost me an additional $48 right off the bat (this was before I realized the mess I had walked myself into), which was not mentioned in the info video/opportunity call I watched other than that would cost a few dollars to buy a domain. (Seems like they had mentioned $3.00? It was way more than that!)
Watching the posts in the community, I quickly saw that those making big sales were highly popular & celebrated, lots of support and celebration. But the ones who were lost, mostly crickets, telling them to reach out to tech support for help, but then there’s a post telling people to be patient because tech support is backed up and that they should be gracious and understanding because tech support does this for free. Yeah right!! lol!!
And to top it all off, the biggest red flag of all: SO many members in the community posting of having their Stripe payment accounts denied or shut down.. because their business was considered fraudulent or potentially harmful and wasn’t supported.
They were having to finagle their way around in the wording to not give them a reason to deny their business account so they can actually receive payments for reselling the digital “program.”
There is no way I would ever promote that for others to get involved with. Seems the FTC must already be alerted and on their trail, it’s only a matter of time before this whole scheme gets shut down and possibly spells disaster for the many involved with perpetuating it.
The whole fiasco is fueled by income claims, suckering in the vulnerable, naive, and desperate folks who mostly don’t have the money to risk and lose. No refunds either.
Of course there wouldn’t be. Take it to your banks. They will work to help you get your money back if it hasn’t been too long.
I’m flagging these one-time comments from people using phrases as names as suspicious.
Any new comments using phrases as a name on this review will be marked as spam.
well I just entered my email to make comment. I entered my email to find out about Legacy builders.
I ended getting in at the $300 level. I am really impressed with it. The content is amazing and I have learned so much. If it does turn out I don’t become a millionaire. I still will have learned some very valuable things. It has caused me to change in so many ways.
I find a lot value for myself. As far as tech support goes. It is phenomenal even I am not able to get my question in. It is always answered by someone having the issue. I have seen questions people were asking that I could have answered because of what I learned. Your making M.O. out to be some kind of monster.
I hope this is not true about hidden links and such. I’m not sorry I bought a program and I love what is doing for me personaly.
Why would that matter unless you’re hoping to scam people through the gifting scheme?
Being disingenuous about why you joined an illegal gifting scheme is scamming 101. I know that’s what you’re taught but it’s doesn’t work on anyone with half a brain.
I don’t know about being a monster but Michele Oneil has definitely demonstrated she’s a serial promoter and now owner of fraudulent gifting schemes.
If you feel that makes Oneil a monster, you do you.
The DGC is created mostly for the benefit of the creator, pushing it to sell the program more so then to have people learn what is needed to make an income from digital market.. the upfront sells makes money for the creator multiply the website fees by the number of members right now .. that’s over a half a milllion, CAN u see how fast the members is GROWING?
Do the math , the website fees bring in at least $80,000 a month for the Creator that’s her passive income .. really .. and to upgrade? You have to pay another pre – build website fee?????
Well that the gift for the creator ONLY !! So go and learn system io .. it’s Greed !!!
@DB
How do I report this as fraud when I willingly paid for it? Do you know what I should say to my bank?
It would be amazing to do this and get my money back. I am less then 90 days. Thanks so much for your help in this.
Not sure why you’re using the term “gifting”. Nobody is gifting or giving away anything. They are literally buying information … (Ozedit: snip, see below)
“Buying information” doesn’t qualify you to receive gifting payments from other participants in a gifting scheme.
Stop denying Legacy Builders’ illegal business model.
Exactly. In a legitimate business world, a salesperson gets paid a commission for selling a product or service. But not a 100% commission.
And, honestly, how many people are paying $900 because they responded to an ad about “Cutting-edge marketing information.” LOL. Ummmm. No. They responded to an ad, “Make $900 a day working 1-2 hours a day.”
If you go to Michele ONeil’s YouTube channel and scroll back to her first videos, they don’t match her testimony about her track record of success.
As OZ has pointed out earlier, she has a track record of destruction.
@Adam comment #19 you said “there is a YT channel showing all of this”. can you share that? Oz do you know about it and can share?
I’m not aware which YT channel Adam referenced.
Could this YT channel be meant?
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youtube.com/@modernmomsuccess/videos
Michele Oneil‘s website is dailypaybusiness.com.
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The domain was registered on October 3, 2022.
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Thanks Melanie. I thought there was a different YT channel (other than here own) from inside her paid programm. Not custoer facing like YT. But i guess that may be it.
Let’s not forget to wish Michele Oneil a happy birthday today. She has been contacting me regularly by email for several days now.
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Ugh, imagine turning your child’s birthday into a marketing. With a “that totally happened” story too…
The main problem that I can see is the value for money. Apparently, they only teach you what to say everyday on social media, we see same vedios from different people.
I am sure that only 10% or less are making good income and other are just left behind. Most of these guys who promote DGC were on IPS including M.O, IPS is going down, most of people left it to other programs.
I would not say it’s a SCAM but it’s unethical to attract people by income claims.
Zac – MBA, Marketing & Sales professional.
Marketing an MLM income opportunity with deceptive income claims is literally a violation of the FTC Act. Notwithstanding all gifting schemes are, by definition, scams.
Buyer Beware:
I know people that are jumping on this bandwagon and I get it.
All you need is one person to buy the digital program you bought and you have your money back. But is the program material actually being used, other than being resold to others, who resell to others and so on and so on?
I understand that digital marketing is the place to be. However, when I listen to the “Legacy Builders” training, it becomes clear it’s all about marketing the marketing.
Comment #55 by “Former DGC Recruit” is the best summary of this program, I’ve read so far.
@Lesson Learned
All you have to do is contact your bank and let them know you unknowlingly got involved in an illegal scheme and want your money back.
Even though Legacy states that there are no refunds, if the bank sees anything as illegal you have a very good chance of getting your money back. And don’t forget to file a complaint with the FTC and BBB at ftc.gov/complaint and bbb.org.
It certainly is worth a shot. When the FTC investigages she may have to repay all of the people.
There’s a reason she now shows an income disclaimer in every webinar she does. Someone contacted her but doing a disclaimer does not absolve you from legal problems.
Please familiarize yourself with the FTC and what is not allowed to be said or done. You might be surprised!
If you are not convinced yet that the Legacy Builders Program is a scam. Here is a few more details.
It is a pyramid because you purchase the 100 you want the 300 you get one month to UPGRADE by just paying the difference after a month you have to pay the full 300.
The upgrade will go to the person you purchased from. The 29 website fee charged on all levels 100 300 600 900 goes directly to Michele Oniel. See the pyramid?
You are always encouraged to get up to the 900. Now you can promote the 100 300 600 900. You are encouraged to basically just resell. So now you have 30,0000 members selling the same thing.
This is a total scam with constant income claims and lies. Michele Oneil needs to be reported if you have not done so because she is a total scammer leading people to believe you can make 900 a day by showing her top earners brag about how much they made.
Those top people are not revealing exactly where their whole income is coming from except saying they have 14 or so streams of income.
You ask them they say it is all in the program. Can you not see a total gifting scamming program this is.
Let’s get Michele Oneil stopped before she takes advantage of more people.
First off Michele is selling a digital product (Ozedit: snip, see below)
When a product is attached to an illegal gifting scheme it is in fact the gifting scheme that is being marketed.
bUt We HaVe PrOdUcTs! hasn’t been a scam defense for decades.
Let me E.D.U.C.A.T.E you meaning: Illegal gifting scheme definition: When people gather in person or online because they are recruited and the recruiter receives money or gifts for each person recruited, that is a gifting scheme — which is also an illegal pyramid scheme.<<<<Michele O'neil DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN)
(Ozedit: snip, see below)
This is literally Legacy Builders’ business model. I mean yeah, thanks for confirming it’s a scam.
Fun fact: You can’t discard reality by lying about what Legacy Builders is.
You are OBLIVIOUS They pay for a digital product! (Ozedit: snip, see below)
…which provides access to an illegal gifting scheme, the business model.
If you don’t have the integrity to even acknowledge Legacy Builders’ fraudulent business model I think we’re done here.
With Legacy Builders are you really building your online sustainable business?
Consider the following:
* How much time do you spend in motivational zoom calls, listening to the same presentation and the same people giving testimonials of their success, while getting pumped up to sell something you didn’t create?
* The entire business model revolves around being an affiliate for Michelle O’Neil’s program material. You do not own the product – only the right to resell the product. You’re essentially selling someone else’s program.
* Despite the hype and excitement, it’s not truly “passive” income. It requires constant hype and efforts to encourage people to buy the same program that you bought.
* By focusing solely on selling the program to others, you risk building your entire business on a foundation that you don’t own or control. What happens if this program loses popularity or the creator decides to shut it down? Your income stream could disappear overnight and the people who just bought in are at a loss.
* Are you able to take the information from Legacy Builders and build your own real business, selling your own products and/or services where you truly own 100% of the assets?
Legacy Builders is an illegal gifting scheme. ^^ None of that matters .
I agree with you, Oz.
Just reaching out to people who are invested in this scheme.
Hoping this might help them ask the hard questions, before they get their friends to buy in.
I would like to just ask what the differences between the legacy builders program and all of these other courses that are out here? (Ozedit: snip, see below)
The attached illegal gifting scheme.
I am wondering if anyone was able to get their money back. I feel victim to this ridiculous excuse of a program.
I did use the payment feature as I was genuinely trying to get started with digital marketing and of course this program “offered soooo much.” NOT.
I want to at least be able to stop the recurring payments so that they no longer get my money, but not sure that’s an option.
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen, preying on vulnerable people to put money into their own pockets to do work for them so they can get rich.
Just some feedback would be helpful if anyone has been successful getting their money back.
Stopping payments should be as easy as contacting your financial service provider no?
As for getting your money back, you know who you sent your money to. Ask them.
Can someone help highlighting the differences between a gifting scheme and the master resell rights? (Ozedit: snip, see below)
In MLM if affiliates are paying affiliates you’re in a gifting scheme. This is irrespective of how the fraudulent business is set up or what’s attached to it.
If you want to discuss non-MLM business models do it somewhere else, thanks.
The difference is essential to the review you made. As you are describing the Legacy Builders Program as an MLM business.
I am not aware of the multi-level component of the Legacy Builders Program. (Ozedit: snip, see #23)
Please don’t waste my time if you haven’t read the review and comments.
I have read them in fact but I don’t think anyone is convincing to apply the MLM terminology. I would really love to clarify it. I am not trying to discredit anyone. On the contrary, I would gladly see the truth. I think this is what we all seek.
I must address your review first.
You say “The MLM side of Legacy Builders exists by way of lower tier affiliates passing up higher tier gifting payments to their upline(s).”
“Upline(s)” is a MLM terminology. In my opinion, there is no referral in Legacy Builders and the “s” behind “upline(s)” cannot apply because only one person is selling the course and receiving the commission (=”master resell rights”).
I cannot see the MLM component.
The reason you can’t “see” the MLM component is because Oneil has made herself everybody’s upline. Unqualified buy-in tiers are passed up to her, bypassing everyone else.
Legacy Builders is an MLM model but manipulated to maximize payments to Oneil.
Since the only fee going to Michele is the $29 fee (Ozedit: snip, see below)
If someone you recruit buys into Legacy Builders at a tier you’re not qualified to receive gifting payments on, those payments are passed upline to Oneil.
I have been watching her since IPS – I too fell for the IPS hype – and then saw her create the Legacy Builders and was shocked (although probably more in disbelief) that she literally took IPS and copied it almost exactly (from what I could tell from her landing page, videos, etc).
and now I see so many top mlmers getting into this LB progam too – how do they sleep at night?
“payments are passed upline to Oneil” : this statement might have been true in the past, I cannot say. For sure, it is not true now.
If a person bought a $100 package, that person would only be able to sell a $100 course, nothing more. Please have a look.
Like I said; If someone you recruit logs in and gifts into a tier you’re not qualified to receive gifting payments on, that gifting payment is passed up to Oneil.
“gifting payment is passed up to Oneil”: you are repeating it but it is still not correct. Anyone who has gone through the process would be able to confirm.
In all cases, no exception, Michele only receives the $29. If you love the truth, you may decide to make few updates.
Yeah we’ve already gone through this song and dance. See #20 and #23.
I don’t have time for dumbasses who don’t understand the gifting scam they’re in. Goodbye.
We should not mix the way Michele promotes it which people can have opinions about and what is in the law.
I am trying to clarify whether Legacy Builder is legal or illegal, and whether it is an MLM. Your point is not clear
All gifting schemes are illegal. You can clarify this with your local authorities.
We agree. However you cannot make a clear point (without insults) (Ozedit: snip, see below)
Regardless of whether I use insults or not, Legacy Builders is an illegal gifting scheme. I can’t be any clearer than that.
I think we’re done here. Best of luck with the scamming and/or sorry for your loss etc.
This a reply to Nicholas. You clearly do not understand the whole gifting scheme.
Take it from someone who was in it. Michele Oneil is not totally honest with all of you. She is receiving money from all of you. Read the comment from the former tech person.
She has you all brainwashed to believe everything she says. How do you think she had made her million it is not by her just reselling. You just don’t want to believe what you are hearing.
Also why is it you cannot change your capture page? She is getting all your people’s email so she can send her own emails out to them.
Don’t believe me I am getting emails from her. I entered my email under someone else and now I am getting her emails.
it is not about brainwashing. It is possible that you did not follow the process and setup your site by yourself to understand my point.
The money trail is clear. When I paid for the course, the whole amount when to the person who sold me the course. Then there is a fee of $29 that goes to Michele. That’s all.
With regards to emails, I have set them up personally. I know where they go and they don’t go to Michele.
Many people make adjustments to the capture page but it is not recommended as the system is promoted as proven. If you change it, it’s not proven anymore.
It’s interesting that you say that you now receive her emails. Maybe the person who sold you the course did you change the links properly and you ended up on her page…
Again I am trying not to mix the work ethics and the legal/illegal question.
@Oz, you are exactly right. I contacted them regarding this (and to the person who is supposedly my “sponsor”), they will not give any money back.
They also told me (the tech folks) that they “advise me to watch my words as they have legal ready to take action.” All I can say is “come at me, bro. I’m ready.
This gifting scheme/scam/pyramid scheme is going to be exposed and I’m reporting this as soon as I finish this post. I’m done.
Thank you all for helping me and opening my eyes to never falling for this crap again.
Nicolas… you’re a dumbass. Or you’re a crook. Rather be a dumbass. Own it.
Re: #112 … LOL … Michelle The Gifter saying she will stick her attorney on you! (That must be SOME attorney, right?) Keep us in the loop, Melissa P!
Same with me. Someone I know is involved and decided to look into it. I entered an anonymous email address and began receiving automated emails everyday from them.
Seemed a little sketchy to me, so I spent a lot time researching and eventually landed here.
A couple of weeks later, I enter same email address to Michele’s “dailypaybusiness”. Now I’m receiving emails from her daily, but none from the other person.
I know it’s not because they aren’t involved anymore .. they are building their following on social media daily.
Another program just like this got shut down in Dec. Called Blueprint to Wealth. Legacy is going to be the next one. Then all you guys will have nothing.
Re : #114, it is done. Yes, one of her “tech” people specifically told me that legal team is in place. I have reported and I’m not afraid to say so.
I cannot believe, and for the life of me cannot remember EVER receiving an email like this, that an organization, or scheme, or whatever they are, would have the nerve to write something like this after someone paid hundreds of dollars to be a part of their community. This is why I trust no one anymore.
I am watching every site that I’ve seen someone post their “claims” to and will call them out on every single one of them. It has to stop, and it can only stop if those victims (others and me) step forward to call them out.
If no one does anything, they will continue to do so and scam others. I hope they understand what they are putting people through. Ridiculous.
And I’m also going to respond to #111 Nicolas : how in the world do you know where the money goes? You have no idea!
I’ve seen the conversations in the forum. There are people in there genuinely asking why they haven’t made a sale or can’t get their money back from one sale to even break even. It’s heartbreaking!
No one responds to those folks, but to the ones who are faking it? “Oh, I got 5k followers on TikTok!” “WOOHOO, congrats! You got this sista!”
Come on, man. To completely ignore those who need the help and respond to those who fake it to get the praise? There is something wrong with that picture.
Truth is that it is not a trusting site. They only congratulate those on fake accomplishments rather than focus on those who need the help that they so incredibly promote on their many emails they send out a day.
And believe me when I say, I do not and did not only receive emails from my sponsor. I received 3-4 emails a day from different email addresses asking me to sign up when I already had an account set up (paid the $929!!!)
Someone is not monitoring or doesn’t care that they are trying to scam you out of another $929. So, all of the comments above calling this “community” out are legit.
Some are in the same boat I’m in. They believe it is a scam, why? Well, because it is. It is and will continue to be a scam until someone or a group of someones calls them out and does something about it.
They preach “integrity” in the community. Integrity is basically doing what’s right even when no one is watching. This forum wasn’t in my sights before I signed up and I so wish it was.
I think that people are just now seeing that they cannot profit from this scheme. It saddens me, but this goes with integrity right?
If I sat back and said nothing and let others join this community and lose their money, I’m just as guilty as they are of not showing integrity.
Melissa,
Thank you for your persistence.
You see the end game and where this will lead and are calling it out.
Most of the people I’ve seen jump on this bandwagon are connected through ministry and long term church relationships. They are posting how much they are making. People trust them and the FOMO is a real fear. Some are using Biblical references to “building a legacy” for your family through Legacy Building.
Some people will make money and bank it, while others will not despite following the outline and “2 hour” a day work schedule.
May they have “ears to hear” and “eyes to see”.
Hopefully this will help explain why this is a gifting scheme. I unfortunately fell victim to this because I trusted the person who was promoting it.
When you purchase let’s say you buy the $900 Legacy builder level. You pay $900 to the person that is promoting it on their social media.
That money doesn’t get you anything or go anywhere except to the person you sent it to. It is essentially a gift. How you get access to the program is you have to pay the $29.
Pam,
So sorry you got involved.
Great explanation on how this MRR is a gifting scheme. Without being able to access the program, you have nothing and the $29 which gives them to access to the programs goes to Michele, who will always be at the top of the pyramid.