Healy World Review: €497 “informational field” medical devices?
Piecing together Healy World’s corporate history is difficult.
This is for two reasons:
- Healy World natively operates in German; and
- Healy World provides no company formation information on their website.
The earliest I was able to find on Healy World as it exists today is a mid 2017 YouTube video titled, “Marcus Schmieke about the new Healy system”.
On Healy World’s website, Schmieke is cited as ‘the inventor and developer of the Healy and TimeWaver products‘.
Another possibility is that although Healy World as a company has been around since mid 2017, the MLM opportunity launched earlier this year.
TimeWaver was launched in 2017. There’s various devices for sale on the TimeWaver website, however the MLM opportunity seems to only be offered through Healy World.
Both Healy World and TimeWaver appear to be operated out of Berlin, Germany.
As far as I can tell, Schmieke doesn’t have an MLM history prior to founding Healy World.
Read on for a full review of the Healy World MLM opportunity.
Healy World Products
Healy World is marketed as a wearable device. If that conjures up images of a smartwatch, armband or some such… yeah, no.
Healy World is positively cumbersome in comparison.
The Healy World device is bulky and worn on the body as shown in an official marketing video above.
Attached to the Healy World device are two ear clamps, wrist bands or electrodes placed elsewhere on the body.
Something something a mobile app, and Healy World claims the device can be used as
a medical device for the treatment of chronic pain, fibromyalgia, skeletal pain and migraine as well as for the adjuvant therapy of mental illness such as depression, anxiety and associated sleep disorders.
There’s a bunch of other stuff Healy World claims its wearable can do.
These include fitness, beauty, skin care, bioenergetic balance, sleep, mental balance, learning aid, job performance, meridians and chakras.
The company states however that these
applications of Healy are not recognized by conventional medicine due to lack of evidence in the sense of conventional medicine.
This suggests that Healy World has documented evidence of its device in relation to the treatment of the first set of disorders, right?
Wrong.
Healy World makes the unsupported claim that its wearable has been “developed in cooperation with practitioners”.
Not one independent study confirming any of the claims Healy World makes about it wearable is provided.
As to how Healy World’s wearable works;
Healy’s functional principle is based on the theory of Becker and Nordenstrom stating that many diseases or dysfunctions in the body are caused by an unnaturally reduced cell membrane voltage.
This means that the voltage difference between the cell interior and the cell interspace is too small. A healthy cell shows a value of approximately -70mV or millivolt.
A lower voltage potential than this normal (physiological) value leads to a disturbed cell metabolism and often results in various diseases and health problems.
By introducing currents into the body, Healy is designed to bring the cell voltage back into the healthy (physiological) range.
Again, this isn’t recognized by any governing medical body around the world.
Not because there’s some big “orthodox medical” conspiracy, but because there’s no supportive documented evidence.
Finally, Healy World states their wearable is a medical device (EU Class IIa), however this has nothing to do with medical claims the company makes.
Medical device classification pertains to “safety requirements of the European Union”.
That’s in relation to operation of the device itself, not what the applicant claims it can or can’t do.
The Healy wearable retails for between €497 to €2497 EUR.
There is only one Healy device. The difference in retail costs is attributed to “programs” run through a customer’s cell phone.
The €2497 Healy Resonance package purportedly comes with “120 Healy frequency programs”.
These programs can also be purchased separately:
- pain/psyche – €94 EUR
- learning – €96 EUR
- fitness – €97 EUR
- job – €82 EUR
- sleep – €54 EUR
- beauty – €94 EUR
- skin – €75 EUR
- mental balance – €99 EUR
- bioenergetic balance 1 – €210 EUR
- bioenergetic balance 2 – €210 EUR
- meridians 1 – €122 EUR
- meridians 2 – €122 EUR
- chakras – €85 EUR
- protection programs – €97 EUR
- “resonance + aura module” – €1097 EUR
The Healy World Compensation Plan
Healy World affiliates sign up and purchase a Healy device plus app programs.
Commissions are paid on sales to retail customers, as well as recruited affiliates who also purchase Healy devices.
Healy World calculates commissions based on points.
These points correspond to Healy device packages as follows:
- Healy Gold device package (€497) – 250 points
- Healy Holistic Health (€997) – 600 points
- Healy Holistic Health Plus (€1497) – 900 points
- Healy Resonance (€2497) – 1400 points
MLM Commission Qualification
In order to qualify for MLM commissions, each Healy World affiliate must recruit two affiliates who each purchase a Healy device package.
These two affiliates must be placed one on both sides of a Healy World affiliate’s binary team.
Healy World Affiliate Ranks
There are twelve affiliate ranks within Healy World’s compensation plan.
Along with their respective qualification criteria, they are as follows:
- Member – sign up as a Healy World affiliate (no MLM commissions)
- Builder – qualify for MLM commissions and generate at least 600 points in weekly binary team volume
- Team Leader – have at least two Builders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 2000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Senior Team Leader – have at least two Team Leaders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 4500 points in weekly binary team volume
- Manager – recruit and maintain at least one Builder ranked affiliate, have at least two Senior Team Leaders in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 10,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Senior Manager – recruit and maintain at least two Builder ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 22,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Director – recruit and maintain at least two Team Leader ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), maintain at least two Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 50,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Senior Director – recruit and maintain at least two Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), maintain at least two additional Managers in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 100,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Vice President – recruit and maintain at least two Senior Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Directors in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 200,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Senior Vice President – recruit and maintain at least two Director Manager ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Senior Directors in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 400,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- President – recruit and maintain at least two Senior Director ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Vice Presidents in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 800,000 points in weekly binary team volume
- Senior President – maintain at least two personally recruited Senior Director ranked affiliates (one on both sides of your binary team), have at least two Presidents in your binary team (one on both sides) and generate at least 1,500,000 points in weekly binary team volume
Healy World’s compensation plan documentation states that while early ranks are applied on qualification, ‘higher ranks … may have to be confirmed several times before the corresponding title is granted‘.
No further information is provided.
Retail and Recruitment Commissions
Healy World affiliates are paid on the sale of Healy device packages to retail customers and recruited affiliates.
Commission rates paid on retail and recruited affiliates packages are the same.
- Healy World affiliates who didn’t buy a package themselves are paid 5%
- Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Gold package are paid 20%
- Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Holistic Health package are paid 22%
- Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Holistic Health Plus package are paid 24%
- Healy World affiliates who purchased a Healy Resonance package are paid 26%
Fast Start Bonus
The Fast Start Bonus is a time-sensitive recruitment bonus.
If a Healy World affiliate recruits three affiliates within their first thirty days, they receive an upgrade to their purchased package.
- Healy Gold package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Holistic Health package
- Healy Holistic Health package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Holistic Health Plus package
- Healy Holistic Health Plus package affiliates are upgraded to the Healy Resonance package
These are stepped upgrades, with each upgrade tier applied per group of three affiliates within the same thirty-day qualification period.
E.g. If a Healy Gold affiliate recruits six qualifying affiliates, they are upgraded to Healy Holistic Health Plus (two upgrades).
Note that if an affiliate already purchased the Healy Holistic Health package, they receive ‘another free Healy Resonance package instead of an upgrade.‘
Residual Commissions
Healy World pays residual commissions via a binary compensation structure.
A binary compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a binary team, split into two sides (left and right):
The first level of the binary team houses two positions. The second level of the binary team is generated by splitting these first two positions into another two positions each (4 positions).
Subsequent levels of the binary team are generated as required, with each new level housing twice as many positions as the previous level.
Positions in the binary team are filled via direct and indirect recruitment of affiliates. Note there is no limit to how deep a binary team can grow.
Each week Healy World tallies up points generated on both sides of the binary team.
Affiliates are paid a 15% commission on points generated on their weaker binary team side (the side with less points).
Once paid out on, points are matched and flushed from both sides of the binary team.
Any leftover volume on the stronger binary team side is carried over into the following week.
Matching Bonus
Healy World pays a Matching Bonus on residual commissions earned by downline affiliates.
The Matching Bonus is tracked and paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
The Matching Bonus is paid on residual commissions paid to unilevel team affiliates, based on rank:
- Builders earn a 10% match on level 1
- Team Leaders earn a 10% match on level 1 and 3% on level 2
- Senior Team Leaders earn a 10% match on level 1 and 5% on level 2
- Managers earn a 10% match on level 1 and 5% on level 2 and 3% on level 3
- Senior Managers earn a 10% match on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 and 3
- Directors earn a 10% match on level 1, 5% on levels 2 and 3 and 3% on level 4
- Senior Directors earn a 10% match on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 to 4
- Vice Presidents earn a 10% match on level 1, 5% on levels 2 to 4 and 3% on level 5
- Senior Vice Presidents earn a 10% match on level 1, 5% on levels 2 to 5 and 3% on level 6
- Presidents earn a 10% match on level 1, 5% on levels 2 to 6 and 3% on level 7
- Senior Presidents earn a 10% match on level 1 and 5% on levels 2 to 8
Car Bonus
Manager and higher Healy World affiliates qualify for a weekly Car Bonus.
- Managers receive €25 EUR a week
- Senior Managers receive €75 EUR a week
- Directors receive €125 EUR a week
- Senior Directors receive €250 EUR a week
- Vice Presidents receive €325 EUR a week
- Senior Vice Presidents receive €375 EUR a week
- Presidents receive €425 EUR a week
- Senior Presidents receive €500 EUR a week
Note that the Car Bonus must be put towards a “Healy branded vehicle”.
Leadership Bonus
Healy World sets aside 1% of company-wide sales volume for the Leadership Bonus.
The Leadership Bonus is paid to “top leaders according to their turnover”.
Further specifics are not provided.
Joining Healy World
Healy World affiliate membership pricing is not provided on their website or in their compensation plan.
Although the purchase of Healy device package isn’t mandatory, purchasing one does increase income potential.
The purchase of a Healy device package adds €497 to €2497 EUR to the cost of Healy World membership.
Conclusion
Where to begin?
Disclaimer: Science and orthodox medicine do not accept the existence of information fields, their possible medical or other relevance, the TimeWaver systems and their applications due to a lack of scientific proof in accordance with orthodox medicine standards.
I suppose with the reiteration that there is absolutely no science or medicine backing up what Healy World claims their devices can do.
This is worrying, considering Healy World claims to have 500,000 customers and that
more than 1,500 doctors, alternative practitioners and other therapists have used the frequency therapy.
You’re going to tell me that after twelve years and supposedly hundreds of thousands of device sales, there isn’t one peer-reviewed study into Healy World’s marketing claims?
It is generally accepted that running around making very specific claims about a device that you can’t prove, is illegal in most jurisdictions.
As I write this Alexa pegs Romania as the only notable source of traffic to Healy World’s website (42%).
The FDA/FTC equivalents in Romania are the National Agency for Medicines and Medical Devices and National Authority for Consumer Protection respectively.
If you’re wondering how Healy World is getting away with unsubstantiated medical claims in Romania, it’s probably because measurable traffic to their website only started last month.
Germany’s FDA/FTC equivalents are the Federal Institute for Drugs and Medical Devices and Ministry for Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture.
Quite frankly I’m surprised they haven’t made a move yet on TimeWaver and Marcus Schmieke (right).
I put it down to none of these agencies having ever heard of TimeWaver or Healy World devices.
Certainly research into the devices puts a big question mark over the “500,000 customers” claim. Outside of Healy World marketing, there’s not much out there.
Irrespective of how many Healy devices may have been sold though, again there’s no basis for any of the unsubstantiated medical claims made.
I mean representing that a Healy device can be used to treat mental illnesses such as depression? That’s not only irresponsible, it’s downright dangerous.
Given Healy World’s devices are complete rubbish (as least from a medical perspective), analysis of the company’s compensation plan is somewhat of a moot point.
Quite obviously the idea is that every Healy World affiliate will purchase a device.
Not only does this make sense from a “how the hell are you going to convince anyone this quackery works if you don’t use it yourself?” perspective, but also because how much you spend dictates your retail/recruitment commission rate.
By registering as a Healy World Member and purchasing your personal Healy product package, you define the percentage of direct commission you will receive from personally recommended customers and Healy World Members
In MLM this is “pay to play” and is another regulatory compliance red flag.
On the plus side Healy World offers a nice incentive for retail customers referrals, by way of points they can use on product upgrades.
Said upgrades are woo frequency treatment options that have no medical basis however, so really back to square one.
The rest of Healy World’s compensation plan is neither here nor there. With any other product all they’d have to do is get rid of pay to play and it’d be workable.
Coupling any MLM compensation plan to Healy devices however is a lost cause.
Before I’m inundated with devoted Healy World affiliates who swear their device cured their goldfish’s cancer, helped them win the lottery and who knows what else; let me clarify I’m not adverse to alternative medical treatment.
What I’m adverse to is unsubstantiated medical claims.
Marcus Schmieke has had plenty of time to put one of his TimeWaver or Healy devices through appropriate trials.
So why hasn’t he?
As simple as it seems to be on the outside, Healy’s inner workings are very complex.
There is no need for you to understand all the scientific details in order to enjoy its effects, though!
Perhaps some insight lies in Schmieke’s academic history.
Seriously… I wish I was making this up.
According to the esotericist Marcus Schmieke, extraordinary experiences can be found inside a so-called Kozyrev mirror:
85.1 percent of the test subjects report that they have stepped into space. 75.4 percent want to have observed UFOs. 55.7 percent had telepathic contacts. At 30 percent it came to personality changes.
The Kozyrev mirror is nothing more than a simple aluminum tube.
An accompanying thesis somehow wound its way into a “Cultural Studies Complementary Medicine” post graduate course, which once made public was widely ridiculed.
If Healy World wants to operate legally in any country with consumer protection and medical regulation, they need to get their devices approved for use as to the specific medical treatment claims they’re making.
Until this is done, avoid like the plague.
And look I’m not a doctor but please don’t go around telling anyone with medical conditions that your little plastic Healy electrode box can cure them.
You’re not only risking their well-being (or even their life in extreme cases), but also your own reputation.
God forbid something adverse happens to those you’ve convinced your Healy device can treat, you might even find yourself in prison.
Update 12th May 2020 – Following claims Healy World’s device has been “cleared” by the FDA, we’ve examined what exactly the device has been cleared for in the US.
Update 8th April 2024 – LumiVitae has emerged as an unofficial Healy World reboot.
Ryan Conley, who never met a crypto mlm scam he didn’t like, is branching off into woo mlm’s. He’s calling himself the first US based promoter of Healy World.
imgur.com/a/utTC4c6
I hope the suckers haven’t fallen for this one!
The scam here is the different packages for different ‘frequencies’ there are better devices on the market that have more advanced technology/frequency programmes for a fraction of the cost.
If the suckers buy and the $$$s roll in, I’m sure more will succumb to this deal.
Give it some real thought – WHY do you have to pay a fortune for an upgrade to the phone app that ‘gives more frequencies’? either the hardware has the oscillator or not! the ‘upgrade’ is merely money for a few electrons !
There are no guarantees with regard to investments in devices, it would have been better to have a lower amount for the device and a monthly subscription fee for the database connection and the programmes.
In this way, customers can stop if Healy turns out not to be functional for them, and on the other hand, it is much more interesting for the Healy company because there is recurring revenue if it does work.
The database connection is also not guaranteed, what if it’s hacked, what if it’s not backed up, what if there are technical problems?
A company that works with information technology must always keep it up to date, it is best practice to improve, modify, supplement software and databases in a development environment, to migrate the new version to a test environment, to test, including a user acceptance test, and if everything gets a green light to be ligated to a production environment.
Healy’s system is flawed and the explanation given is that people are “working on the database,” which is very worrying because it points to a lack of professionalism.
I put some time otherwise wasted on waiting for a delivery to good use to see if I could find something more on German websites, and I did find out some things.
1. They are clearly keeping a very low profile in Germany itself. That’s always a good strategy if you’re engaged in legally dubious activities: keep your nose clean in the country where you’re based.
They’re managing to fly below the radar of any of the sites where such devices are normally debunked or made fun of.
I only found one mention in German that isn’t advertising in an article in the eminently respectable Spiegel weekly.
There it’s mentioned as an example of the burgeoning woo-woo practice of claiming to be quantum-something-something, in this case “quantum medicine”.
Or as the article calls it, “quantum bullshit”. Because when somebody tries to sell you something medical that is claimed to be based on quantum physics, they’re by definition selling bullshit.
2. Marcus Schmieke must be hired help. The current Healy World GmBH was the latest of several small companies clearly involved with the same device, all of them still registered as active.
They all have a sole director, one Babak Jafarian. There is a nice automatically generated graph of Mr Jafarian’s little corporate empire on this page:
northdata.de/Jafarian,+Babak,+Neuruppin/trp
There is Healy GmbH, founded 02.01.2018, Healy International AG, founded 19.10.2016, then TimeWaver International GmbH, founded 13.12.2018, which changed its name to Healy World GmbH on 13.12.2018.
Their stated fields of business seem to be identical. There is also TimeWaver Home GmbH (2014) and TimeWaver Production GmbH (2013), but I grew weary of checking what are clearly yet two other Jafarian DBAs.
The name Schmiecke does pop up in yet another company, Schmieke Holding GmbH (2016), but that, too, was set up with Babak Jafarian as sole director, and seems to only hold the intellectual property to the device.
He also runs Quantica GmbH, which was founded in 11.09.2013, but that was founded by two other people and had a much broader and vaguer remit (except that it had to do with the general field of woo-woo) than the subsequent companies.
The two founding directors left together in 2015, and Jafarian became sole director. Of course, there could be more comapanies in this tangle, if he’s using fronts for other companies.
All of these companies have capitals in the order of only thousands or tens of thousands of euros.
Why people with such small companies in this field so often seem to need so many of them is a bit of a mystery, especially if they’re all legally one-man bands.
I can’t check ownership from free public records, but if a small German company has a sole director he’s also probably the sole owner, or at least has de facto ownership control.
That’s all the publicly available corporate information I was able to find, anything more detailed costs money.
This review is based on outdated info.
The parent company Timewaver has been around for over 12 years with over 2000 German Doctors using the sysyem. It has recently been approved bybrhe FDA to test 8 Medical conditions.
It will beca gamechanger in the field of Wellness as Electroceuticals are the Medicine of the Future!
How so?
Proof please.
Your article reads like a bunch of annoyed competitors looking to dump on Timewaver.
Your knee jerk reactions to claims about no Professional development behind Timewaver are bogus as the company has already introduced their timewaver hardware and modules for over ten years, Dr Carolyn McMakin and Nuno Nina are Frequency Specific Microcurrent Doctors and developers of wellness frequencies based on Rife Technology.
You remind me of the style of reporting that CNN attempts.
If Timewaver products are bogus, then why are they distributed in over 40 countries.
Do more research and then provide an addendum to your “research”.
Timeweaver didn’t exist until 2017. Feel free to provide evidence to the contrary, as well as evidence of verifiable “professional development” behind their magic devices.
Feel free to provide one peer-reviewed medical/scientific study pertaining to Healy’s magic devices.
Welcome to the internet. You can mail almost anything to anyone anywhere in the world.
Love how the kooky product MLMs always attract nutters who can’t provide evidence to back up their claims.
This Healy Timewaver is a cut-copy case of William Nelson US as of 1980.
A maths teacher invented Quantum, sold thousands of copies. Sentenced to prison but ledy in earky 1990 to Romania and Hungary (budapest).
Now he licea in budapest, so this can explain why Romanian authorities approved Healy. Anyway serach for brand names Quantum and Scio as precursors of Healy and Timewaver.
Do not be surprised that Mr Nelson is a woman now, and one of his business in budapest is a disco! Thats correct! A discotheque!
Please read Story on William Nelson simmilar fraud device names scio or quantum:
quantumcentre.com/footer-pages.php?page_id=37
The US case dates back to 1980. Nelson was to go behind bars but escaped to romania. Wher he stared again.
Now probably his case is copied in Berlin. All the same biofeedback cheat!
Hello Medical Detective,
I am looking for some objective and solid information on this very topic. I am involved with this in the states, and I have done some of my own research as well.
TimeWaver GmBH has been around since 2007. In 2013 the company reported an income of 800K Euro which is $870,608 USD.
In 2014 they went down to almost $0 and in 2015 they lost money down ~1K Euros. So the question is, what happened in 2014??
Healy is based on the Timewaver Frequency and Med and Timewaver Home technology. Your research appears to be incorrect the way you suggest Healy has 500,000 patients.
The Timewaver Parent company has 500,000 users, and has been in business for 14 years. I can send you links of names of people who could clairfy your misunderstandings of Frequency based medical approaches to wellness.
Listen to some of Dr Bruce Liptons claims about frequency based treatments, which is exactly what Healy is about.
If that does not convince you that their is a possibility that Healy is the real deal, then continue your education with Dr Richard Gerber and his book Vibrational Medicine, and if you still choose not to understand that Frequency Based technology is more effective and compatible with the human body than (Ozedit: “big pharma” conspiracy theories removed)
Please send me peer-reviewed studies showing Healy provides any medical benefits whatsoever.
I’m also interested in any documents you have pertaining to FDA approval of Healy devices to treat medical conditions.
What I’m not interested in is “claims” and nutjob conspiracy theories. Thanks.
Here is the FDA Registration for Healy Technology in the USA. Some of you on this post suggest that Healy is hocus pocus smoke and mirrors. Easy to say harder to pove.
Healy has already been a
Not withstanding you seem to have messed up your comment, FDA registration != FDA approval.
Try again.
We don’t need to prove a negative. The onus is on you to prove Healy’s products provide medical benefits.
Here is the FDA Registration for Healy Technology in the USA. (Ozedit: snip, see above)
Nobody cares about FDA registration, it’s meaningless.
Their own website (www.healyworld.net/in/expertise/this-is-why-we-developed-healy-a-smart-little-helper-anytime-anywhere/) contains this:
Which means they haven’t got a shred of evidence their devices do anything at all. Despite having at least 14 years of selling the things behind them (according to Alan Gough).
Has anyone independent source, government agency or authority or doctor examined and certified the testimonies of people who claim tohave been cured or experience healing from this devic.
No, of course not.
The efficacy of medical treatments isn’t established by someone going around trying to verify testimonials. That’s because testimonials are worthless.
If you see something with purported medical benefits being sold on the basis of testimonials, you can be absolutely certain that it’s useless (or worse). That is, if you live in a country where such advertising isn’t illegal.
You also have to remember that a belief in the magical healing powers of electricity is just about as old as the first experiments with electricity.
Devices purporting to achieve medical results by running tiny currents through the body in some way are as old as easily-available batteries.
Look around on the net a bit, and you can easily find pictures of such magical electrical boxes going back to the middle of the 19th century. They all have one thing in common: they did absolutely nothing.
Of course, the decorative flashing lights and dials and knobs have evolved over time, to match what people of the time think a high-tech device involving electricity must look like.
The buzzwords used in the sales pitch gobbledygook adapt to changing fashions as well. But this Healy thing is just the umpteenth variation of the magical electrical healing box.
Any somewhat competent electronics hobbyist can throw together something like this from cheap parts. You can easily add some sensors for things like body temperature or heart rate to make it even more convincing to the gullible.
Put it in a nice-looking box and add a cheap little single-board computer to it as a controller, and to produce a screen display (a Raspberry Pi or something similar), a display to which you can easily add even more completely made-up displays, and controls to twiddle with that do nothing, and there’s your product.
Since the Raspberry Pi also has WiFi, you could also easily add an app, or internet access.
The same rule applies as to all quack products: if they had the effects the people selling them claim they have, every doctor would be using them, or you could buy them in any pharmacy.
That’s obviously not the case, so that’s why there’s nearly always an attached conspiracy theory peddled by the people selling them: you must believe that there is a vast conspiracy, of which almost every doctor and medical researcher in the world is a card-carrying member, all funded by ‘Big Pharma’ of course, to keep them from the public.
I suggest you read more about the information provided.
Yes there are clinical studies obviously. As well as the device has a medical registration class 2 in Europe.
Yes Healy is registered as medical device also in USA. Do your compliance with serious researches .
As far as your information from the start is not accurate I assume the rest is the same .
To me, you are the scammer. You do not intend to relate but to depreciate.
Disgusting attitude from mlmbehind..
Where are the clinical studies?
Being registered as a medical device != being approved to treat medical conditions.
If you’re going to make claims, how about you provide evidence.
Reader beware of Healy affiliates making bogus medical claims.
Meantime, I did some more research on Healy.
Fact is the Healy device is largely unknown in the published literature so far. They claim “Frequency applications have been developed over decades of research by practitioners and scientists” – but nowhere on the internet there are research results found that the “programmes” Healy features have any medical benefit.
Fact is also there is some evidence for microcurrent, but not for the frequency specific microcurrent that Healy promotes. The evidence says that there is no need for clever frequency tricks. It means it can be helpful, but there is certainly no need for any specific programme for a specific medical issue.
Obviously, they present positive testimonials, people that make critical remarks in Healy-FB-groups are simply removed.
Testimonials are no proof. Sure people feel good with the use of the device, but thats because they believe in it (meaning belief in the marketing bla bla bla).
Its like a placebo compared with a “real” medicine, take paracetamol, your headache is over, take a tablet that looks like paracetamol,but contains only starch, your headache can also be over…
So far, in fact no real problem for me. People buy more useless things, and they think if its expensive it must be good. If some have enough money to throw away, they can do that, no problem.
The real problem is people are made to throw away noney because they are lied to. The device simply does not do what they claim it will do. That is not a decent way to do business.
And what’s more, the business model is very questionable. They sell the device for an amount between 500 and 2500 Euro, while its value is maybe 25 Euro, but the added value consists of access to the database with the “programmes”.
A somewhat more sustainable way to still sell their machine with related services could be to sell it for 150 Euro, with a monthly subscription of 25 Euro afterwards (or slightly more if the customer wants a subscription to some more monthly illusions).
This would make the Healy companies more money in the end if the device gets customers satisfied, and it would be more affordable.
This fact, combined with the fact they present themselves as a large company (in fact they are 5 companies combined in some kind of joint venture, of which the largest does 200.000 Euro per year.
The others have practically no turnover, which is for the large one (Timewaver) on worldwide level extrenely small) and they are financed by a venture capitalist taking 8% interest and 25% of the profit, leads to the conclusion they want fast money, and it is to be expected the behind this “semi-scam” will take the money and run, leaving behind all there distributors/customers with a useless device and an empty wallet, as it’s highly probable their database will not be kept up to date.
The so called leaders (specialised in leading money from peoples wallets into the account of the mother-company, receiving money in their own wallet for that) will simple move on to the next fairy tale narative…
I have had a Healy for 4 months now and believe its the most valuable piece of health & welness technology I have. I am continually blown away with wehat it does “FOR ME” and welcome anyone to reach out to someone who has one and try it for yourself.
Alternatively it’s relatively in expencive to get the entry level model and purchase the programs you feel you would most benefiut from and try it for yourself.
Many people spend more on Alcohol and Tobacco in a month than the cost of the entry level model, and this device has a 2 year warranty.
I think its worth going over the history too because back in 1904 (Ozedit: whacky conspiracy theories removed)
What’s that based on? Feels?
Oh, anecdotal stories. When it comes to medical claims, anecdotal stories = meaningless.
Feel free to provide peer-reviewed studies proving Healy products do anything but drain your wallet. Leave the whacky conspiracy theories on your Facebook groups, thanks.
This reminds me of the Omega Wand that was making the rounds a few years back.
They, like Healy, made all kinds of medical claims and how wonderful people felt using the wand. It was nothing more than psycho-babble and woo.
It went bye-bye before anyone could reap their untold profits they would garner from this miraculous product. Healy will do the same thing.
It won’t be long until people will be complaining they are not getting paid, the company will claim their system was hacked, the company will claim that their members had figured out a way to cheat the company and they have to do an audit. Then of course until the audit is finished, they can’t pay anyone.
Now I could list many more excuses for non-payment or for their website going down unexpectedly, but there will be excuses and we have heard them all before in every Ponzi going. This will be no different.
@Lynn:
Was it the Amega Wand (with an “A”)? Amega Wand is what popped up when I searched for Omega Wand, and the claims made for it sound a lot like what you were talking about:
That’s some weapons-grade bullshit, right there. I could say the same for the Healy–it claims to cure pretty much everything, which only serves to confirm its uselessness.
And what kind of stupid name is “Healy”? It sounds like a toy you’d find in a cereal box. (“What’s that?” “It’s my little Healy thingie!”)
It sure doesn’t cost like a toy, though, but the price point is typical for something that does nothing. Charge a lot and people will think it must be worth SOMETHING.
There’s even a name for it: The Price Placebo Effect.
A search of that phrase will turn up all kinds of articles (peer-reviewed, no less) on the validity of the effect: the more you charge, the more people will believe it does something.
(Ozedit: whacky conspiracy theories removed)
Healy is a device that has just been FDA approved for the USA market and is going on sale from the 1st May. It is a device that actually works and helps the person instead of killing cells it repairs them.
(Ozedit: spam and more whacky conspiracy theories removed)
Leave the big pharma conspiracy theories on Facebook, thanks. They have nothing to do with Healy’s products and there being no evidence to prove any claims made about them.
Proof please.
…it’s FDA approved bla bla bla…
So just for fun I went to the FDA site, found the 12 page document describing the Healy.
And indeed it’s approved…to be sold!…that’s all. Absolutely nothing about it’s effectiveness.
Oh wait! that’s not all…it’s compared with an almost identical functioning device: the Avail Microcurrent from Omron.
Big difference is that you can pick that one up for approx.$ 170,= from your local Walmart.
According to the conclusion the Healy is “substancially equivalent to the currently marketed predicate device”
I did see a “Healy” device mentioned by FDA dated November 2019 and yes, it was from TimeWaver, so we’re talking about the same one.
FDA letter says that something just like it has been around since before 1976 so why are you asking us whether it’s approved or not?
accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf19/K191075.pdf
If you take that as “approved”, you need your brain checked.
This video: youtube.com/watch?v=0mHQ8mSgQmQ shows more scammers seem to have joined recently.
Marcus Schmiecke – Founder and Owner
Dirc Zahlmann – Chief Sales Officer Healy World
Frank Deyle – Head of Sales Europe Healy World
Georg Doeller – Vice President
Carsten Lange – Vice President
Yes, two Vice Presidents!
Another name that comes up is Alexander Lelling, a German non-medical practitioner.
FDA registered != FDA approved
FDA registration is meaningless and involves zero regulatory oversight. No testing, no approval that Healy devices can do anything.
This is the same as scammers representing basic incorporation is the same as registering with a financial regulator.
Healy devices are not approved by the FDA. They never have been.
There no peer-reviewed studies proving Healy has any health benefits or can be used to treat, cure or manage anything.
Healy affiliates running around claiming their devices are FDA approved are lying to you.
Very interesting … sure! I would like to have the healing capabilities of … Wolverine … with a pumped up circulatory system and energy to spare … who wouldn’t?
Healy was touted to me as a ground floor opportunity and the next best thing compared to a $5,000 mat from Bemer …. at a faction of the cost … not even the same claim to technology of voltage vs electro magnetic radiation or emf waves.
please sign me up for whole shebang of “frequencies for life“ … also available at Walmart I understand under a different name …
alas, my instant healing capabilities have been dashed and poor Mum will have to continue to live with her arthritis … oh the pain to be human … darn it!
I have been in Hospice twice if you don’t know what that means look it up.
I have been dead once & lost my eldest child to cancer.
I am now 64 yrs young and have taught raw food health for free for the last dozen or so years because of my love and passion for Human Beings and animals. (Healy works on anamils too!)
I read enough of the posts to see that many of you have an axe to grind with true ignorance in what you believe.
First, the Healy Device was named Healy World as the mission is to do just that be a healing part of the World.
Second – from all the comments I could stand you folks do not really understand the physics of our existence.
Third – Healy is an FDA CLEARED DEVICE – Again the person/s saying it is touted as approved is misinformed or lying – I suggest lying because most people know that FDA Approval is for drugs and Cleared is for medical devices.
Fourth – we do not as a broadstroke tell anyone that we heal or cure anything simply because it is against the law in the united states and we are all trained in this so that we do not break the law.
Besides anyone that tells anyone something will make you live longer is very ignorant or a liar because God only knows how long anyone is going to live or be cured from anything as there are way too many variables to say anything even if it has a very high success rate it could fail you.
So the REAL VALUABLE QUESTION IS THIS – What is the quality of my life going to be from this moment to the moment I breathe my last?
So no we do not make any medical claims- all we claim is your frequencies that are out of balance can be put back into balance. PERIOD!
Now based on Physics and the actual reality of existence itself, frequencies are based on cell membrane tension – Which is the amount of energy it takes to hold any cell together.
No matter the size (Punn intended!) the energy to protect and contain it is appropriate for that specific purpose.
When the tension is no longer able to protect the cell no matter the size it then requires the correction of balance to return to proper function.
NOW HERES MY CHALLENGE to all you naysayig geniuses, Contact me I will (Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
Now there is no way to graft a new idea on to a closed mind so I will end here.
The Healy device is truly life transforming to the person who actually makes the time to learn how to use it and because they did they also have the right intention (Intention is the driving force that determines the value of that user, to its intended users end in mind) Again physics – thought is creative and the value of intention is = to the righteousness of the user.
See Bible – as a man thinks, so is he. (God wrote that, you know the Designing manufacturer?)
So unless you have the moxey to humble yourself and actually invest your money and your time to make an intelligent observation based on your own personal experience then you are just another windbag making money on clicks per vew being the exact thing you are accusing hard working loving and good intentioned people what you actually are.
Last – go and learn all you can for free about using the Healy Resonance (Then come buy one, for again you’ll get your money back, (14 Days from the day you get it in your hand) only if you are very convincing that you are humbling yourself to honestly see if it will in fact do what I am about to TELL YOU IT WILL IN FACT DO AND WHY IT WILL then and only then will I sell you one because my integrity is very highly valued to me –
The reason the Healy is life-transforming for the users that use it with self-love in an attempt through trust in the person they are buying it from to increase their QUALITY OF LIFE is simply this – everyone has frequency issuse that are specifically metered and measured to them personally the same as you think of a fingerprint.
So when you get it and use it it corrects your frequencies and puts them back in balance when my frequences are in balance it causes the natural wellness I should have to reoccur and make me very happy with the results. This is MY personal experience so it doesn’t matter what you say I am a very good listner to my body and I know the changes it made for me.
I hope you all have the very best quality of life possible and have a humble loving Spirit towards all the Humans and animals you meet!
Yeah, so the Healy device’s FDA registration has absolutely nothing to do with all that frequency bullshit. The Healy device is registered (not “cleared”) because it’s functions identically to an already registered device used to treat arthritis.
That’s it. And said comparably devices are available for much cheaper than Healy’s offering.
Feel free to provide peer-reviewed studies showing Healy’s device can in fact heal anything.
The law states you can’t market using bullshit medical claims.
If you believe in bullshit medical claims that’s the problem, not a law that prohibits you from marketing with said bullshit medical claims.
Sounds like a medical claim to me. Feel free to provide peer-reviewed studies demonstrating Healy’s device has any effect on “frequencies” that are “out of balance”.
So prove it then. Shouldn’t be too hard?
BFH reporting Healy just terminated its CEO and Master Distributor, Dirc Zahlmann.
No details provided.
Hey Folks,
i have been inside this timewaver company. from what i know and have seen, i highly not recommend to buy anything. the majority of customers are Alternative medicine doctors (homeopathic bs).
After i run some Quantum field analysis on a nonexistent horse. This machine gave me some results.
The Programm that comes with looks very professional. But on a closer look, when it does its quantum field analysis, it appears to me that it is only a gif image with multiple lines that jumping up and down, like on an electrocardiogram.
Babak Jafarian
– duckduckgo.com/?=babak+jafarian&t=hk&iax=images&ia=images
– Picture Nr. 5
The guy has the charm of an Indian call center scammer.
ps: inside this company and sub companys are even rival colleagues that sell registration keys for full versions of the software.
Interesting assessment and makes some points. However I see some gaps of logic which seem to me purely straw men.
Without any evidence you liken this device to ancient “electrical therapy” or something like that. But that proves nothing of it’s efficacy or lack of it.
Secondly whenever someone challenges you all you do is keep quoting “lack of peer reviews” . Very weak. If it’s as innovative as it claims to be there wouldn’t be any peer reviews because it is not in the same field at all.
Thirdly, you seem to assume that just because a treatment is widely accepted by the FDA/US, it is “safe”.
I assuming you are not a health professional. No offense, but when you see the things they do to people and the way people die —in the hospital and at the hand of doctors doing their best, most of them, even a placebo effect seems worth a try.
I don’t have a Healy and I don’t know if I will or not. But I wish you would better substantiate your claims about the seedy nature of the owners because all this only sounds like the presidential campaigns.
You dis testimonials : I partially agree. However I don’t think you can totally dismiss nor totally base on a testimony.
Why don’t you write them and see if they would donate one for you to try out and then get back to us. Another testimonial? Or put out a survey of people who got it.
I was hoping for something useful, not something angry and just as unsubstantiated as the Healy ads.
You seem to be missing the onus being on the seller to provide evidence of their claims. In the absence of such evidence, well, you get skepticism – and rightfully so.
Medical claims require medical studies with peer-review. This is standard across the industry.
God help us if every quack was able to legally come up with whacky inventions with whacky medical claims that went unverified.
Why not claim staring at the sky is a catch all miracle and just push your bed to a window instead? Much cheaper.
Preying on the vulnerable with made-up medical claims is despicable.
You should dismiss every testimonial that makes claims the product owner cann’t prove with peer-reviewed medical studies.
My anecdotal experience would be just as useless as anybody else’s. The onus again is on Healy to provide evidence of its claims (and/or that of its affiliates).
Clearly you weren’t looking for an unbiased critical review of Healy then. Plenty of marketing spam out there that’ll better fit your needs.
Shelly:
Healy are, quite officially, claiming that their device isn’t innovative in the least.
They have, successfully, gotten FDA clearance to sell it in the US on the grounds that it is “substantially identical” to a device that has already been cleared for sale, something called the Omron Avail (for which no far-fetched magical healing claims are made).
If you want something more substantial, QuackWatch has recently devoted an article to the thing:
quackwatch.org/device/reports/a-skeptical-look-at-the-healy-bioresonance-device/
The author, Stephen Barrett, M.D, also points out what I already touched upon in an earlier comment (#21): the device also isn’t innovative in its fanciful claims: it’s merely the latest arrival in a long line of such magical, pseudo-medical, electrical boxes.
Let me add a personal observation about the exorbitant prices charged for this thing.
First: while the whole sales pitch is about “frequencies”, and how those are used in “programs” specific to certain medical conditions, and even things like weight loss, and “inner beauty, hair, skin, ageing, nails, skin elasticity, local wounds, acne, scars”, I haven’t seen any explanation of just what aspect of the tiny current they’re applying is being varied at these frequencies.
Perhaps that information is hidden somewhere, but it’s certainly not included in the stuff aimed at the potential buyers.
The thing is battery-powered, so they start out with DC. Do they perhaps convert it to AC, and vary the frequency of that? I have no idea, there are other things about an electric current one can vary at a certain frequency.
One can simply pulse it, for instance. But whatever it is, it cannot require more than some extremely basic, extremely cheap circuitry.
Now for a controller: I see it uses Bluetooth, so it can talk to a smartphone app. My first idea would be to use something like the Raspberry Pi Zero W. That provides the Bluetooth capability, and the minimal analog circuity, plus the few buttons, can easily be controlled through its plentiful GPIO pins.
That costs under €12 (order of 1, retail, including VAT). It will also fit easily, several times over, into a box the size of the Healy, and it consumes next to no power, so battery power is not a problem. (Without that Bluetooth capability, which after all has got nothing to do with the claimed curative aspects of the device, we could use an ordinary Pi Zero, which is half the price.)
Something even simpler like an Arduino could no doubt also do it (especially since anything supposedly “smart” can be done in that app), but I see Arduino modules that seem to do little else than provide a Bluetooth-to-serial link to other hardware cost about the same as that Pi Zero.
So while using the Pi would be total computational overkill, since we’d be putting a fully-fledged Linux computer in there, it wouldn’t be more expensive than something simpler, and it certainly would make software development a doddle. (Of course, it would also make a separate app superfluous – one could simply run whatever it is that app does on the Pi itself, including anyting involving internet connectivity.)
Let’s generously allow (because Healy aren’t clear about what the thing actually does, we can’t be precise) just as much for the cost of the analog circuitry as for that Pi Zero. That would mean that, even paying full retail price, the innards of the Healy device cost €25.
Assuming the enclosure isn’t an off-the-shelf design, that’s probably the most expensive thing about it. Then there’s the external electrodes and stuff.
But all in all, the total production cost of this thing must be in the order of tens of euros – it depends a lot on over how many you can spread out the setup costs, and how much you order from the manufacturer per batch. I would be very surprised if you couldn’t get this thing made for €50 (pure hardware cost).
After having made this guesstimate, I looked up the price of the Omron Avail, which after all, according to Healy themselves is functionally identical to their device (and also has Bluetooth connectivity).
That is currently on sale on Omron’s own website, marked down to $99, from an MSRP of $199. I also see it sold elsewhere for around $150. Is was rather happy to see that those prices fit with a normal markup on my estimate.
Yet the cheapest Healy costs €505.36 (the ‘Gold’), including VAT, and it goes up to €2538.97 (the ‘Resonance’). That’s all the identical device, as far as I can see the price difference only lies in the included ‘programs’.
IOW stuff that doesn’t cost anything at all to provide, since those ‘programs’ cannot be anything more than a few numbers for the magical frequencies.
For something a competent electronics hobbyist could throw together for under €30 (if you don’t want a fancy bespoke box), that’s just ridiculous.
I have been interested in the product, but have been hearing disturbing things that the company has no reliable support line and that people with genuine problems are just getting automated replies.
Also commissions have not been paid to some people and that the product has arrived to various people without the essential wrist bands and often without instruction material.
Also the idea of the C.E.O suddenly leaving seems odd.
I have absolutely no bone to pick with anybody but as a normal person interested in a new product that might or not be helpful, it has aroused serious doubts.
I believe I have heard the CEO and creator Dirc Zahlmann was really eliminated from the company and not in a nice or friendly way. He was put outside like they do with the garbage.
A lot of people were upset as he was always promoted as the true spirit behind the company the man with the ideas and credibility.
I bought a healy for personal use and not for a business. Bought in May 2020. I followed the recommended four weeks of the gold cycle program and onto treatment for migraines, sleep issues and sciatica issues.
When my migraines start I use the Healy migraine pain program and the migraine stops. I use the sleep programs and I sleep through the night feeling rested. Stops my sciatica pain as well.
I have been using Healy every day and continue to be amazed by the product. btw- the Healy is not bulky in any way or form!
For pain management you could have saved a ton of money buying devices Healy compared itself to to get FDA approval.
Any other benefits are in your head.
It’s. Just. A. TENS.
Never got a bit of help from one myself, but simple ones from Omron are 40 bucks American at Target.
I would like to say I did not read all the posts on here. way to many but HEALY is life changing and worth every penny you would not be able to pry it out of my hands!!!
This is NOT a tens unit, I had one of those and threw it away. Healy Does so much. your just clueless. try it before you bash it.
So many things out there are bull crap. but not this one. worth every cent…. Healy will heal the world.
God bless.
Healy’s device is FDA approved as a
Being a Class 2 product, Healy’s device is “substantially equivalent” to other devices on the market. Said devices are much cheaper and do the same thing.
I have read all of the comments here, after someone recently recommended looking at the product and its testimonials etc, i think alternative therapies (Ozedit: whacky conspiracy theories removed)
Feel free to provide evidence the Healy device is an effective alternative therapy for anything other than arthritis pain.
If Healy wasn’t just a “me too” device they’d have applied for relevant registrations with the FDA.
WOW, I want to say this, Do you make every MLM look stupid?
You obviously are spewing your opinion, and when some one says something positive, you come back with an ignorant comment, even to go as far as to joke about someone’s NECK?
As far as your comments, Healy Opened in the USA May 2020, and It is CLEARED by the FDA. We would not even be able to sell these if it were not for the FDA clearing it.
SO next time try to report, not give opinion for something you have never tried!!!
This is a Miracle device and anyone who has not tried it, TRY IT! It will change your attitude!!
I don’t make any MLM look stupid. They do that themselves. All I do is point it out.
And I certainly didn’t take the unflattering photo of Marcus Schmieke.
Healy was being promoted in the US long before May 2020. And the FDA did not clear Healy.
What the FDA did do is approve the Healy device as a class 2 device, meaning it’s similar to an existing device on the market.
Actually, as per Healy device’s FDA approval, it’s a “me too” copy based on existing devices that are available for far cheaper.
Anyone claiming Healy’s device can do anything beyond relieve arthritic pain is not only making unsubstantiated medical claims (illegal), they’re also full of shit.
Oz: I am not buying this device, because I don’t believe in spending my money that way. But what I do know, as a scientist, is that peer reviews do not always say anything about the quality of your product, let alone its effects.
many products, especially alternative products are not acknowledged by the majority of peers, yet that is a sign of our times, it does not necessarily speak to the quality of the product.
Cancer treatment medicine works on some patients, yet kills others, and the statistics available on this vary so much that peer reviews are useless if you want them to tell you if traditional cancer treatment works or not. The same goes for psychopharmica.
If you want to be critical, great, but then why rely on peer reviews that you don’t seem to know the very nature of?
One thing I notice about your approach is, that when several people say they have a positive experience with the device, you dismiss it with claims of placebo effect. How do you warrant that claim?
As a scientist, you have to stay open and approach the fact that so many people are experiencing a positive effect with curiosity. You can never dismiss it with out backing it up.
You are looking for proof? Good, so when you do quantitative research you ask people questions, and their answers count as proof.
Medical scientists do this too when they try out new products. They look at the chemical effects in the body, but not two bodies respond the same, so they have to ask people how the product makes them feel.
That is how science is produced. So when you have so many people saying it works, based on their feelings, just know that if their experiences were quantified, it would count as scientific evidence.
What we need is a scientist to do that, and my guess is that the healy people simply cant afford such an ordeal, or that the device only works on a lower percentage of people.
What puts me off personally is the pyramid scheme behind it, it takes the seriousness out of it for me, but I can’t deny the reviews, however few, and I would have to take those into consideration, were I to make an analysis of Healy and its effects.
Acupuncture is a great example of a practise whose effects were not acknowledged for centuries by traditional medicine, and you still have medical practitioners laughing it off, while many hospitals use it and train nurses and doctors in using it on their patients for pain relief.
The only way to measure the effects of acupuncture would be through analysing peoples feelings, and measuring their blood pressure. That could be one way to scientifically analyse the effects of Healy too.
If Healy and their distributors are running around making unofficial medical claims about their products, peer-reviewed studies are your best bet.
No peer-reviewed studies? Not only are the medical claims illegal, they are not based on science.
I’m not interested in excuses. If you were an actual scientist you’d know anecdotal stories being touted as proof of medical claims = lol GTFO.
They might have their place in establishing or exploring potential uses/treatment, but that will inevitably lead to peer-reviewed studies in any case.
Illegally making medical claims about Healy’s device is not that. It’s using medical claims based on nothing verifiable (actual evidence) to sell an overpriced device and MLM opp.
As for dismissing anecdotal stories as placebos. I haven’t done that.
For me again it comes down to if you want to make medical claims to market your MLM opportunity + MLM opportunities’ products, you need to provide proof.
Anecdotal stories are not proof. Peer-reviewed studies are.
Or the simple answer: Healy’s device is no different to similar pain relief devices on the market, none of which are being marketed with additional bullshit medical claims.
Flash:
No, you’re not. Starting out by claiming you are, and then writing a long post clearly showing you don’t understand the first thing about science, doesn’t work.
Oz:
Which is what Healy themselves stated in their application to the FDA.
What these Healy pluggers don’t seem to understand is that, if the device is indeed something other than a bog-standard, cheapo pain relief device sold at an extortionate price, it means it’s legally sold in the US on the basis of Healy lying to the FDA. Which is actually a crime.
Hi,
one spider in the web is dr. Gordon Jones, also known from a similar Ponzi back in 2017 with the HELO bracelet.
helolifestyle.net/
take care,
Johan
This review, which is almost five years old, could be updated, as this company and its largely “useless” products have been the subject of heated debate in Germany for several weeks.
Simplicissimus is a very popular and informative German channel on YouTube with 1.46 million subscribers. This video about Healy World was uploaded to this channel on March 14, 2024.
The video currently has 1,176,118 views and 4,347 comments.
youtube.com/watch?v=1dv54CJycgs
It is very unfortunate that this video is not available in English, because it shows a brutal number of facts that these products do not deliver what is promised in the advertising. A well-known German lawyer also talks about this in the video.
youtu.be/1dv54CJycgs?t=1217
Healy World GmbH has two shareholders. Christian Halper from Austria with 60% and Marcus Schmieke from Germany with 40%.
youtu.be/1dv54CJycgs?t=2160
The product range has been extended and the most expensive device now costs 3,966.27 euros including VAT. At the same time, Simplicissimus points out that the manufacturing costs per device are only between 30 and 50 euros.
youtu.be/1dv54CJycgs?t=2190
The current CEO of Healy World GmbH is Christian Dorner, who previously also worked for Tupperware and Kyäni.
ibb.co/CvS5gFX
linkedin.com/in/christian-dorner-32a61561/?originalSubdomain=de
At the end of the video it is mentioned that Healy World GmbH has sued the authors of this channel. They are threatened with a warning of 250,000 euros.
On March 21, 2024, Simplicissimus reported on this in detail in a separate video.
This video currently has 1,305,767 views and 5,870 comments.
youtube.com/watch?v=GVfR3k0wc-o
I will report on this topic in more detail, as German consumer protection organizations are now also becoming active.
Healy World’s official YouTube channel contains 258 videos and has 14,300 subscribers.
youtube.com/@HealyWorldOfficial/videos
However, Healy World is also advertised on many other channels.
The owners of Healy World in a video from February 11, 2023.
Marcus Schmieke on the left and Christian Halper on the right.
ibb.co/0f3NwQQ
youtube.com/watch?v=ucK72Fijft8
The domain healy.shop was registered on January 5, 2017 and updated on February 10, 2024.
ibb.co/Csm7Bzj
The domain healy.world was registered on December 24, 2018 and updated on April 10, 2024.
ibb.co/93bFtHJ
In most of the 16 German federal states, consumer protection organizations have already warned against the purchase of Healy.
Article by the German Consumer Protection Agency from March 19, 2024. Partial quote:
verbraucherzentrale.de/aktuelle-meldungen/gesundheit-pflege/healy-keine-wissenschaftliche-evidenz-fuer-gesundheitsversprechen-93768
Other sources with similar warnings.
web.de/magazine/digital/healy-kritik-verbraucherzentrale-warnt-39506456
rp-online.de/leben/gesundheit/news/healy-verbraucherschuetzer-warnen-vor-irrefuehrenden-werbeversprechen_aid-109354083
It sometimes links directly to this video from May 27, 2023, which currently has 79,751 views.
The media library of the German regional television station NDR also issued a warning on September 5, 2023.
ardmediathek.de/video/panorama-die-reporter/abzocke-mit-esoterik-wie-gefaehrlich-ist-der-healy/ndr/Y3JpZDovL25kci5kZS9wcm9wbGFuXzE5NjM0MTI4NF9nYW56ZVNlbmR1bmc
On her own website, alternative practitioner Bettina Luther from Rinteln in Germany reports extensively on where the Healy has helped and where it has not.
ibb.co/r30f5Vd
bettinaluther.de/healy-erfahrungen-pro-contra
Accessories for the dubious Healy are also sold on AMAZON.
ibb.co/qBMVJb1
amazon.de/Lemala-Schutzh%C3%BClle-Cover-Schutz-Abdeckung/dp/B09ZQRFSJD/
ibb.co/HYmyQBZ
amazon.de/Lemala-Elektroden-Armb%C3%A4nder-Silberfasern-Leitf%C3%A4higkeit/dp/B09WMYYM1D/
In a video from March 28, 2020, Marcus Schmieke was named as the Founder and Owner of Healy World and the well-known German fraudster Dirc Zahlmann as Chief Sales Officer Healy World.
Marcus Schmieke in this video:
ibb.co/nPnFXV1
Dirc Zahlmann in this Video:
ibb.co/vwLFBWP
youtube.com/watch?v=0mHQ8mSgQmQ
I can find no evidence that Dirc Zahlmann is still involved in this fraud.
On June 7 and 8, 2024, a TimeWaver event will take place in Oberursel, Germany. In addition to Marcus Schmieke and Christian Halper, eleven other people are listed as speakers, some of whom are said to be professors or doctors.
ibb.co/4f3X8QS
Tickets cost 169, 209, 229 or 349 euros without accommodation.
Marcus Schmieke and Christian Halper on timewaver.com:
ibb.co/VLdD5cV
The imprint names the company as TimeWaver Hope GmbH in Kränzlin in Germany and Babak Jafarian is named as the managing director. Kränzlin is a tiny village in eastern Germany with only 515 inhabitants.
ibb.co/1bLPwRp
timewaver.com/international/de/impressum/
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The domain registration of timewaver.com was last updated on July 19, 2023.
The visitor statistics of timewaver.com from January to March 2024:
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Notice. timewaver.com was first saved in the WebArchive with this title on December 11, 2008:
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Don’t users of the miracle devices Healy or TimeWaver Frequency or TimeWaver Pro or TimeWaver Cardio have to die? This was my spontaneous thought when I read the title of this video by Marcus Schmieke.
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youtube.com/watch?v=KeE6OheGqNM
The sound quality is miserable, and the content of the video probably is too.
Markus Schmieke’s YouTube channel TimeWaver TV contains 84 videos and has 10,700 subscribers. The last very short videos were uploaded in January 2024.
youtube.com/@TimeWaverTV
If you want to buy a TimeWaver, you should hurry. Special prices apply until May 5, 2024!
– TimeWaver Pro – only 23,790.48 euros
(after May 5 again 29,738.10 euros).
– TimeWaver Pro Premium – only 33,310.48 euros
(after May 5 again 41,638.10 euros).
– TimeWaver Pro Platinum – only 38,904.08 euros
(after May 5 again 51,872.10 euros).
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For poor pensioners like me, Marcus Schmieke also offers to lease the precious devices. 😀