Charles Scoville fancies himself as the next Mark Cuban
In the aftermath of Traffic Monsoon being declared a Ponzi scheme by a US Court, the most prominent rhetoric to emerge has been comparisons to Mark Cuban’s SEC case.
These efforts have been spear-headed by Charles Scoville, in what appears to be the latest attempt to string his victims along.
For those unfamiliar with the case, Mark Cuban was sued by the SEC back in 2008 for insider trading.
Long story short, the charges against Cuban were dismissed in 2009, the SEC won an appeal in 2010 and a jury decided in Cuban’s favor in 2013.
None of this is of course relevant, because Mark Cuban wasn’t running an adcredit Ponzi scheme.
But that hasn’t stopped Scoville from desperately trying to draw comparison between his SEC case and that of Cuban’s.
The reality is, short of being brought about by the same regulator, there are no similarities between the two cases.
Following a purported call with his lawyers, Scoville recorded a YouTube message for Traffic Monsoon investors.
Aside from the Cuban comparisons, Scoville rehashes the same pseudo-compliance arguments he lost the preliminary injunction motion on.
If we revisit Judge Parrish’s decision from yesterday, it’s clear that arguments such as “we told everyone it wasn’t an investment” have no legal weight.
So much so that most of Judge Parrish’s forty-five page preliminary injunction decision is spent dismantling Scoville’s pseudo-compliance arguments one after another.
Other than acknowledging the SEC’s opposing position, at no point did Judge Parrish challenge any of the SEC’s legal arguments.
Why?
Because at the core of Traffic Monsoon’s business model was the principal of $50 being deposited and that money used to fund $55 withdrawals.
Yeah, so much for the sympathetic telekinetic legal kung-fu between Scoville and the Judge following the injunction hearing last year.
Despite pretty much every Ponzi case brought about by the SEC settled, Scoville has informed Traffic Monsoon affiliates he plans to take the case to a jury trial.
Typically in civil litigation matters are decided by a Judge, however either party can opt for a jury trial instead.
To hear Scoville tell it, Judges and lawyers “get caught up in legal mumbo-jumbo”. A jury on the other hand will dismiss logic and legalize Ponzi fraud in the US.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Assuming the jury isn’t stacked with Traffic Monsoon investors (it won’t be), any objective jury will reach the same conclusion Judge Parrish did:
Paying out $55 on a $50 deposit using newly deposited funds is Ponzi fraud.
Nothing in Scoville’s fourteen minute rant addresses this key point. Which is strange, because it’s why a TRO was initially granted and precisely why Traffic Monsoon lost the preliminary injunction decision.
After consulting with his lawyers following yesterday’s decision, Scoville admits he has no idea how long taking the SEC’s case to a jury trial might take – but does at one point speculate on five years.
Personally I’m seeing criminal charges filed at some point and, once Scoville’s personal freedom is on the line, the SEC case settled quickly and quietly.
Until then I guess we can look forward to more self-serving but entirely non-legally grounded analysis from Scoville and his supporters.
Speaking of which, in an attempt to discredit the court-appointed Receiver, Scoville suggests to Traffic Monsoon affiliates that she is in cahoots with the SEC and willing to lie.
This group at the SEC works together with Peggy Hunt on many cases.
How does the receiver get paid? From the money she’s holding onto in receivership.
In a system where the SEC and receiver benefit from the money they hold onto, it screams agenda and motive..
The true financial crime that appears to have happened here is against me and my business..
I wonder how we can be awarded the return of the funds the receiver has spent on her expenses… what about damages?
This SEC office and this receiver seem to be giving each other high fives and back-rubs.
Peggy Hunt is supposed to be a neutral officer of the court simply to do what the judge wants her to do under court order, but what Peggy has done is become a working arm for the SEC.
Obviously she’s buddy-buddy with the SEC and happy to do what they ask her to do and feed them with as much info as she can with the intention to make me look bad, not with the intention to find truth..
What is her motivation to lie and make things appear to be different than they are in reality–?
Oh yeah.. she’s getting paid for it from the money she’s holding onto.. and if she can stretch this case to last longer.. it will mean she gets to have more of the money she’s holding onto..
As part of ongoing efforts to marshal assets and recover stolen Ponzi funds by the Zeek Rewards Receiver, it was recently announced that victims of the scheme will recover as much as 75% of their losses.
That’s the culmination of five years of work by the Zeek Rewards Receiver, who is paid in the exact same manner the Traffic Monsoon Receiver is (all Ponzi Receivers are).
Scoville’s gnashing of teeth at the prospect of his personal ill-gotten gains being spent to recover stolen Ponzi funds aside, I get the frustration from victims over having their funds frozen while the Receivership investigates.
At the end of the day though, whatever the Receiver is able to marshal and distribute to victims is far better than losing all your money (the inevitable conclusion of Traffic Monsoon Judge Parrish herself reached upon examination of the evidence).
And yeah, the Receiver has to be paid either way. It takes a ton of man-hours to sift through the mess Ponzi schemes generate.
Before you jump off the deep end into a pool of conspiracy theories, consider:
Traffic Monsoon is pretty small potatoes compared to Zeek Rewards. Yet the Zeek Rewards Receiver was able to recover up to 75% of losses for victims, despite working on the case and getting paid over the span of five years.
Traffic Monsoon victims might ultimately not recover 75% of their losses, but whatever the final amount is it’s still better than Traffic Monsoon collapsing and receiving nothing.
Looking forward Scoville has vowed to file an appeal, which we’ll cover going forward. Scoville also has a motion to dismiss pending, which is likely to be rejected in light of the preliminary injunction decision.
Seeing as the Receiver is now free to resume her investigation into the scheme, we’ll keep an eye out for developments there too.
Stay tuned…
this will be the interlocutory appeal allowed by judge jill parrish due to confusion about SEC jurisdiction based on the supreme court order in ‘morrison vs national australia bank’ and the ‘dodd frank’ reforms.
this appeal process could take up to an year and ultimately scoville will lose it, because i think judge parrish has covered both bases [ ie morrison and dodd frank].
then the trial process will begin, and the total time taken could well extend over 5 years. with judge parrish not allowing scoville to use TM victim funds to pay for his legal defense, who is going to help him?
net winners of TM who have been donating to his legal fund have already moved on to other ponzi schemes and will hardly stand by him for such a long period.
scoville will settle with the SEC at some point, but will most probably have to face criminal charges after his appeal is denied.
“Hasta La Vista Baby”.
for some strange reason ponzi promoters on social media seem to believe that the trump presidency will legitimize ponzi schemes and that he has a bleeding heart for the charles scoville’s of the world.
if only, if only, the president was made aware of the how the SEC is illtreating TM, he would make pointy fingers and say ‘SEC BAD. Very BAD!!’
and how better to reach trump’s ears that via fox news? :
awwww. maybe putin can help?? 🙂
I reckon Scoville’s going to dig into the ol’ parents piggy bank. They obviously don’t want to see their son legally certified a scammer… but if you ask me they’re probably better off settling here and saving the money for a criminal defense fund.
I don’t think Charles will appeal as it will cost too much money. Money that he needs for his civil and criminal trial to follow.
This is a Ponzi for God’s sake and no appellant court is going to rule that a Ponzi can remain in business. He’s blowing smoke as usual.
This notion that there is confusion about if the SEC has jurisdiction is a red herring.
Of course the SEC has jurisdiction. He ran his Ponzi from Utah, his servers were in the US, and he registered TM in the US. It makes no difference how many or what percentage of his victims lived outside the US.
The SEC has jurisdiction if just one US citizen was involved. Past Ponzi cases have confirmed this.
Scoville claims: “The SEC has no jurisdiction because 90% of members were resident outside the USA”
Umm, no matter how you spin it, that leaves 10% of victims / members WITHIN the USA.
That’s before we get to the bit where Judge Parrish dismantled the argument, based entirely on relevant law/s.
you mean the judge has constructed a red herring and put it in her order?
judge jill parrish has clearly explained the confusion in her order:
the judge has raised a technicality and allowed an interlocutory appeal on it.
chalk it down to her lack of experience with federal jurisdiction cases or whatever, but she has raised a technical point which is not a red herring.
scoville’s lawyers will certainly encourage him to file an appeal as permitted by judge parrish, because that’s how they can make a quick buck while he awaits trial.
while i think scoville will certainly lose the appeal, we cannot ignore judge parrish’s observed [technical] ‘confusion’ in the order. it is a fact and not a red herring and should be acknowledged honestly.
My error. I read it wrong. I stand corrected.
I still don’t think Charles has the money to pay for the appeal, when they know this is going to trial. It’s a waste of time and money.
Especially with Charles’ constant harping on how he wants to get this over as quickly as possible so he can pay his members mantra he has been spouting for the past 15 months.
He wants it to be over as quickly as possible so he can pay the members back but at the same time he is looking for a 5 year long wait to have his case heard before a jury-trial?
Contradicting yourself a bit Charles?
Great news for the lawyers no doubt because that means they secure 5 years of legal fees but bad news for Charles seeing as his appeal for funds fell way short of the monthly target.
Want some investment advice Charles? Put your investment in a great item. It’s called the soap on a rope and will save you many many hours of being violated in the shower rooms.
Money well spent in my opinion 😉
Well, donations to Charles’ legal defense fund just took a major hit today.
It was announced, and I quote:
I think this alone will force Charles to forget appealing and go straight to trial as he won’t have the money for his defense team if he doesn’t.
So there’s no doubt Traffic Hurricane and Ernie Ganz are on respective radars of the SEC, Traffic Monsoon Receiver and Judge Parrish.
Nice.
I know the SEC Attorneys and the Receiver were fully aware of TH+.
There was a poster who said he was on the call when Ernie and Charles were discussing the TM database (after the asset freeze), and they worked it out Ernie would buy it for $15,000 and make it look like it was a donation to the legal defense fund.
This person said they would testify under oath this is what happened. I am sure this will be confirmed before Charles’ civil trial.
I think Ernie is in for a big surprise after TM’s trial is over.
ernie ganz obviously doesn’t care a fig that he’s on the radar, because he’s busy selling tickets to the – ‘ FIRST ever USA Traffic Hurricane Event!!!’ with his best buddy, the serial ponzi scammer frank colabro jr.
ganz is very very ballsy to sell trafficmonsoon – like investments illegally in the US, that too with public invitations on social media, right when a federal judge has found traffic monsoon to be a ponzi!
IIRC the receiver had subpoenaed him, and his lawyer had replied to her [to stall i assume]. oz had reported in another article here that the..
ganz is now running a ponzi business using an affiliate data base which belongs to the receiver by law. i’m pretty sure the receiver will initiate proceedings against him.
i cant believe ganz is doing all this thievery in broad daylight with no concern for the consequences. is he flat out dumb?
Anjali,
But, but, but TH+ is not registered in the US, but in the Philippines, therefore the evil US agencies and law enforcement can’t touch him. (cough, cough)
The funny part Ernie truly believes this. Seems he forgot that his Philippine registration does not allow him to conduct business of any kind. Says so in the registration documents.
This is going to be fun to watch unfold.
sunil patel who had vowed to fight ’till his last breath’ for TM, has posted a video on youtube threatening scoville that – he has enough information to put him [scoville] in jail forever!
he alleges immy islam has been hiding money for scoville.
he alleges that scoville started TM+ with 1.2 million dollars [where did that money come from if scoville’s assets were frozen?].
he alleges that after the paypal freeze scoville bought a porsche and a house in manchester UK, while affiliates were not paid.
the fallout seems to have been due to scoville putting pressure on patel to arrange funds for legal fees. patel also complains that scoville’s mom had been pushy and aggressive with him and that he didn’t like that one bit.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ci5EuN-SsBI&app=desktop
…is that the sound of a conscience?
Bit tired to dissect 20+ mins of audio. Have saved in case it disappears, will do a writeup tomorrow so it’s “on the record”.
hmmm good job saving it, there’s every chance this video will disappear because patel has commented under the video that it’s fake.
whats fake about it? it’s definitely sunil patel talking on the video!
looks like patel had an emotional outburst and is now regretting it. too late! oz saved it!!
The gang at RealScam have also saved it at vimeo.com/211061854
Have to laugh at the one comment on YT
If somebody stitched that audio together, they did a great job.
The second video where Sunil is made aware of just how much info the SEC has gathered on his involvement in TM makes for interesting viewing and goes some way to explaining Patels’ anger
I’ve just watched it again. Don’t worry, I’ve downloaded a copy for posterity and I will upload it on any site possible if need be (seeing as some durdy rats recently got my threadbare Yootoob channel terminated).
Mmmm, the sweet, sweet smell of denial and desperation
*licks lips
um. no considering he poo pooed all those that have turned out to be correct.
Now Charles fancies himself as having a Precedent Legal Case against the SEC and more. Here’s his latest update proclaiming TM is going to be a legal precedent, and I quote: