PrepayCPA Review: $300 for a tax return review?
Year after year, if you plan on earning a living in this world, most people have to worry about paying tax on their income.
But for many of us, that’s only really the tip of the iceberg as far as tax goes, and things get more complicated still if we run a business.
For many, even those with seemingly simple accounting requirements, this means a trip down to the local accountant, some patience and then a phonecall letting you know everything has been taken care of.
At a cost of course.
Seeking to capitalise on the accounting industry, Prepay CPA seek to provide their members with a prepaid alternative to the traditional model of the accounting industry.
Oh, and did I mention they’ve decided to combine it with a MLM compensation plan too? Read on for a full review of the PrePayCPA business opportunity.
The Company
Launched on November 22nd 2011 and operating out of Delaware in the US, PrePayCPA is headed up by Director Bruce Toone, Founder and President David Track (photo right) and COO Josh Rosenbaum.
Bruce Toone is ‘the managing partner and tax specialist at the CPA firm Toone & Associates’ and appears to be handling the accounting side of PrepayCPA, whereas David Track is handling the MLM side of things.
Founder David Track runs the MLM social network ‘MLM Social’ (which is a MLM opportunity within itself) and through his company ‘Track Companies Inc’, appears to have tried his hand at various internet marketing and MLM opportunities since 2003.
The PrepayCPA Product Line
PrepayCPA’s product line is centered in the accounting niche and to serve the varying needs and levels of customers, offer three tiers of services.
Basic Protection
The PrepayCPA ‘Basic Protection’ plan costs $24.95 a month ($299.40 annually) and includes;
- a tax return review for the current fiscal year.
- the addressing of all liens and levies from the IRS or your state during your membership enrollment
- the addressing of IRS and state notices
- one basic incorporation
Protection Plus
The PrepayCPA ‘Protection Plus’ plan costs $34.95 a month ($419.40 annually) and includes;
- a tax return review for the current fiscal year
- the addressing of all liens and levies from the IRS or your state during your membership enrollment
- the addressing of IRS and state notices
- one basic incorporation
- an audit protection plan
Audit Protection Plan
The standalone ‘Audit Protection Plan’ is the same as featured in the ‘Protection Plus’ plan and offers subscribers ‘eight hours of audit preparation services in the event that our customers are audited by the IRS’‘.
The PrepayCPA Compensation Plan
The PrePayCPA compensation plan revolves around a unilevel structure which means that each customer of PrepayCPA distributor you enroll is placed directly under you (forming your first level).
Any distributors enrolled by the distributors you’ve enrolled count as your second level and so on and so forth.
PrepayCPA Membership Ranks
There are 6 levels of membership within the PrepayCPA compensation plan and along with their associated requirements, they are as follows;
- Bronze Associate – join PrepayCPA and maintain $24.95 in monthly sales
- Silver Associate – recruit 3 bronze associates and generate a minimum of $200 in monthly sales
- Gold Executive – recruit 3 silver associates and generate a minimum of $2,000 in monthly sales
- Platinum Executive – recruit 3 gold executives and generate a minimum of $7,000 in monthly sales
- Diamond Leader – recruit 3 platinum executives and generate a minimum of $22,000 in monthly sales
- Double Diamond Leader – recruit 5 diamond leaders and generate a minimum of $110,000 in monthly sales
Fast Start Bonus
The Fast Start Bonus is a 20% commission on the first product sale (min $24.95) of any new associate or customer you bring to the company.
Note that the Fast Start Bonus is in addition the ‘unilevel commissions’ offered (explained below). Unlike the unilevel commissions though, the Fast Start Bonus is paid out weekly.
Any difference between the Fast Start Bonus commission and your regular unilevel commission is paid out at the end of the month along with a member’s regular unilevel commissions.
Unilevel Commissions
PrePay CPA pay out unilevel commissions on up to 7 levels of your unilevel organisation, depending on a member’s membership rank.
Members are paid out
- 15% on level 1 (all ranks)
- 5% on level 2 (Bronze Associate or higher)
- 10% on level 3 (Silver Associate or higher)
- 5% on level 4 (Gold Executive or higher)
- 4% on level 5 (Platinum Executive or higher)
- 4% on level 6 (Diamond Leader or higher)
- 5% on level 7 (Double Diamond Leader)
Global Bonus Pool
The Global Bonus Pool is open to Double Diamond PrepayCPA members only and consists of 2% of all commissionable sales of the company.
Each Double Diamond member is entitled to one equal share in the bonus pool.
Re-entry legs
PrepayCPA members are able to unlock commissions on further levels in their unilevel organisation once they’ve reached the membership level of Diamond or Double Diamond.
They do this through what the company calls a ‘re-entry leg’. Once a Diamond or Double Diamond member has 50 customers (in the first 6 levels for Diamonds and 7 levels for Double Diamonds), they are entitled to a ‘re-entry leg’.
This re-entry leg pays out on another 6 or 7 levels of commissions after the first 7, following the same percentages as the original unilevel commission payouts on the first seven levels.
Diamonds are entitled to an additional 6 levels of payouts and Double Diamonds 7 levels.
Joining PrepayCPA
Joining Prepay CPA as a distributor requires the purchase of a ‘distributor kit’ which costs $34.95.
Members must also purchase back office access and a replicated website which is $14.95 a month.
Annually PrepayCPA distributorship must also be renewed at a cost of $20.
Conclusion
In theory a MLM company built on the idea of prepaid accounting services should be a solid business opportunity but PrepaidCPA isn’t without its shortfalls.
First of all there’s the compensation plan. PrepaidCPA does have less membership levels than average, which is generally a good thing but the requirements between membership levels is steep.
For example the monthly sales requirement jumps from $200 –> $2000 –> $7000 –> $22,000 –> $110,000. By no means should achieving Double Diamond be a walk in the park, but in having such steep increases between membership levels, members are going to be potentially stuck at the same level for a long time.
Not a dramatic fault but in terms of morale it’s always good to feel like you’re progressing. Having to increase your sales by 1000% just to achieve the second membership rank within the plan is probably going to be a bit daunting for most people.
The second tier membership rank requirement of $2000 with PrepaidCPA’s most expensive plan, Protective Plus, at $34.95 is still 57 customers and/or distributors.
The level after that requires you to more than double this. Keep in mind this example assumes everyone goes for the most expensive plan, which they won’t!
There’s also the questionable issue of recruitment requirements too. They are combined with the sales but with limited product options (essentially two plans and one combined) there’s an all too easy incentive to just recruit people (the difference is just $14.95 a month between a customer and distributor).
With membership requirements on 5 of the 6 levels of membership within the company, there’s a strong incentive to just recruit people and place them on autoship (the $24.95 a month basic protection plan).
The second major shortfall is the PrepayCPA product line For starters, as a distributor you’re pretty much required to purchase at least the basic protection plan at $24.95. When combined with the required $14.95 a month fee, this effectively puts the true cost of being a PrepayCPA distributor at $39.90 a month.
You don’t of course have to purchase any plan, instead relying on sales to meet your monthly quota, but as with most service based MLM products, the first thing people will most likely ask you is whether or not you use the service yourself.
If you don’t see any value in PrepayCPA’s products enough to purchase them, how are you going to convince others the same. Looking at what’s offered, PrepayCPA’s products are obviously targeted at individuals so running your own business through PrepayCPA and having to file a tax return yourself, admitting to not subscribing to the company’s products would put you in a stick situation if someone asked (and they will).
Then there’s the products themselves. Particularly of note is the fact that PrepayCPA only offer to review a tax return, rather than compile one. You still need to either do it yourself or get an accountant to do it.
This is where things get a bit sticky.
PrepayCPA Director Bruce Toone is ‘the managing partner and tax specialist at the CPA firm Toone & Associates, who PrepayCPA exclusively use to do all the accounting work for them.
Naturally being involved in both companies, Toone doesn’t want PrepayCPA directly competing with his already established accounting firm so what you get with PrepayCPA feels more like a feeder program to more expensive services offered by Toone’s firm.
For example, Toone & Associates are happy to prepare a tax return for you – but this external to any PrepayCPA plan and will attract additional fees.
Likewise the audit protection covers only eight hours of auditing. I’ve never been audited so I’ve got no idea whether 8 hours is enough time or not, but if it isn’t – Toone & Associates would be more than happy to keep working at an additional cost.
With Bruce Toone being involved in both companies, conflict of interest aside, it leaves the PrepayCPA product line feeling like little more than a feeder to the more extensive accounting services his firm offers.
Value wise I’m quite capable of filling out my own tax return and weighing up the slim chance of being audited, I’d be asking myself is it worth paying $300 a year to get my tax return checked?
Personally I’d answer no and just risk the audit fees on the rare chance I was audited one year but each person is different.
The trouble with PrepayCPA is that on their own the plans feel like entry-level services, services you’re already paying $300 a year for.
I kinda get the impression that most people are probably just going to get by with filing a tax return year to year and the idea of just having one checked for $300 isn’t all that appealing.
And regardless of whether we’re talking customers or distributors – at the end of the day that’s going to be a hard sell.
Just as a price comparison…
“basic incorporation” is about $100 USD online depending on which state. California cost more, Nevada cost less.
corporate tax return, depending on how complicated, is about another $50-150. Here’s a link to H&R block for their $50 service for “self-employed” (which most MLMers would be)
http://www.hrblock.com/online-tax-preparation/premium.html
Most people don’t get liens or audits so that’s pretty much ‘insurance’, and that just means a CPA will appear with you to help you answer to liens and audits. A good CPA should be doing that any way (and charge you for the appearance)
So that $300 thing? There’s profit there. You’re basically paying $150 (spread out for a whole year) for insurance.
If he’s also a tax lawyer I’d be more impressed. As is, it’s a bit of Meh.
Which also brings up a different problem: in what state(s) is this guy licensed to operate in? What if the service can’t be used in a particular state? THEN what?
PrepaidLegal (i.e. LegalShield) has a network of attorneys in different states. As far as I can tell, this is ONE firm.
Perhaps the entire thing is just a mail order deal. You mail them your tax return, audit stuff and they’ll take a look at it.
I’ve never been subject to US tax laws so I’m a bit iffy on the subject.
American tax system is multilayered. There’s Federal income tax, there’s state income tax (some states). If this guy can only do Federal tax but not state tax this guy’s of limited utility.
Checking Toonetax.com revealed that all they did was use a computer to review your tax return
http://toonetax.com/taxprep.html
Which is what Intuit’s TurboTax does already. And TurboTax is virtually free with rebates every year. $25 if you want the state version too. Maybe $50 if you have a corporation.
This one is based on Maryland. Where is PrepayCPA based out of? Maryland has a personal income tax but there’s not a word of it on this Toonetax.com website.
This is starting to look more and more like overpriced bull****.
Hi, I am David Track, CEO & Co-Founder of PrepayCPA. I appreciate your somewhat “thorough” attempt at a review of our company, but unfortunately, there are many glaring errors throughout this entire overview which desperately need addressing.
As someone who has been in network marketing for more than 30 years, and who runs the world’s largest MLM social network, MLMSocial.com, I have seen just about every compensation plan there is.
In fact, MLMSocial also hosts the world’s largest MLM Company Directory database, and I have to personally review each and every MLM Company prior to adding it to the site in order to make sure that it is a legitimate MLM, and in doing so I need to review its comp plans and products.
Rarely, if ever, have I seen an MLM company with products and/or services that everyone needs… and everyone must pay taxes! There are a ton of lotions and potions in our industry out there competing with one another, but we are first in our space, creating a brand-new category that never existed before.
Sure, you can do your own taxes, or hire an accountant or CPA to do them, but how many CPAs out there truly understand our industry? I can count on one hand how many, and Bruce Toone, PrepayCPA’s CFO is one of them. Bruce has over 15 years experience handling taxes for MLM distributors, including myself.
I’ve been an MLM distributor far longer than I’ve been an MLM company owner, and I wanted to create a compensation plan that would help the little guy who’s struggling, as well as the big guy with a track record of success.
In doing so, I hired the world’s leading compensation expert, Rod Cook. Rod has always been on the side of the distributor. He’s the founder of The Association of Network Marketing Professionals, and he’s most notably known as MLM industry expert, “The MLM WatchDog.”
Rod wrote the Amazon bestseller, “MLM Compensation Pay Plans” and has been an MLM consultant for more than 40 years, creating the compensation plans for many of the top 50 largest MLM Companies to date.
My goal is for PrepayCPA to be around indefinitely. We first looked at all of the top 50 MLM companies out there and saw what they all had in common… unilevel comp plans.
I wanted to offer a Fast Start Bonus that never went away, no matter how long you were a member, nor how many sales you had. I wanted to include a Bonus Pool and Matching Bonuses, all of which we did. I also wanted to pay to infinity, which is a difficult feat to accomplish legally and viably, but with Rod’s help we figured out how!
We hired Rod to create a comp plan which would be very fair, balanced and doable by the masses. Rod came up with an exclusive, copywritten, and unique way to pay in perpetuity. Rod coined our exclusive infinity program, “Re-Entry Certificates”.
This is based on customers, which both the FTC and Attorney Generals like and which has received the seal-of-approval by the world’s leading MLM Attorney, Gerald Nehra.
Our Re-Entry Certificate program allows members who hit a certain level to take out multiple accounts/positions and place them under any leg, on their 6th level on down, creating an unlimited wealth potential.
The PrepayCPA compensation pay plan is unique in that it pays compressed levels of compensation. For instance, a new person starting out gets paid 2 levels of pay which is rare for an MLM Pay plan. There are few MLM pay plans that offer such a jump in income for beginners in an MLM Company.
The PrepayCPA plan pays seven levels deep which provides a large income for even heavy hitters, and as mentioned, can pay out in perpetuity, legally! The bonus pool on the back end of our MLM compensation pay plan is designed to retain the biggest of MLM builders.
Now, I will address your comments one by one.
This can be somewhat misleading, as a cursory review of your statement can look like you’re saying 1000 times (several people we spoke with thought that’s what this said).
Another way of saying it this is that you need to increase your sales by 10 times (or less, depending on the level), which in reality, is the industry norm. Or, with each level increase, you helped 3 distributors to reach the next level.
Again, industry norm. And with a first-to-industry category, and a service that everyone needs, there will be a huge momentum (already happening) with a windfall of business for all of us. And again, with a real service that people need, we expect attrition to be low and for distributors to move through our levels with greater speed than in most MLMs.
You couldn’t know the answer to this one, since we hadn’t posted it anywhere yet, but we do agree that Tax Prep/Tax Filing should be part of our suite of services. However, quality control is critical.
We officially announced to our Master Distributors this past week that we will open up Tax Prep/Tax Filing to the next 500 members who join PrepayCPA with an annual purchase of $299. This will include ALL of our services, including, notices; audit protection; liens & levies; and incorporation services.
We will continue to build out our infrastructure to handle this growth, and will continue to make special announcements allowing the next “X” number of members who join to receive Tax Prep/Tax Filing.
This is an absolute steal… whether you plan on marketing our services or just becoming a customer. You’re going to pay at least this much for just Tax Prep alone from a CPA who, chances are, doesn’t understand all of the ins and outs of our industry, like MLM industry expert, Bruce Toone.
Plus, you get all of our other services. This is an awesome deal, no matter how you look at it!
Once we feel that we are in a position to handle the masses for Tax Prep/Tax Filing efficiently, we will then open this up to ALL who join as part of our suite of services. We also have plans to add more services, including a mobile app to help with your taxes… due out very soon.
“Naturally being involved in both companies, Toone doesn’t want PrepayCPA directly competing with his already established accounting firm so what you get with PrepayCPA feels more like a feeder program to more expensive services offered by Toone’s firm.”
This is quite an assumption. Customers of PrepayCPA will absolutely NOT be fed into Toone & Associates for upsell. Our Chairman & COO, Josh Rosenbaum and I have zero interest or stake in Toone & Associates, yet Bruce Toone is CFO of PrepayCPA.
PrepayCPA distributors and customers will only be offered the services that we offer, period. With our tax review service, we are trying to help clients find mistakes in their return preparation, or help guide them on the structure of their tax organization so that they can avoid audits if possible and also maximize tax refunds.
A second opinion is a valuable item, and 70% to 80% of the time, we’re able to find mistakes that can save people money. If someone uses TurboTax or even another company and thinks everything is correct, they would be gravely mistaken.
This is due to a lack of time, lack of knowledge, procrastination, or just bad service problems which arise on large numbers of returns. Overlooked items cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in missing refunds, or later in audit notices.
Our review helps find this information, and this is only one of the services we offer that can provide extra money to our clients through oversight and guidance. And again, as a reminder, we plan on adding Tax Prep as one of our services in the near future… but for now, the next 500 people who join at $299 for the year, get Tax Prep included (along with all of our other services), and will be able to continue each year thereafter with Tax Prep/Tax Filing.
Most audits do not take more than 8 hours to handle. When people get audited, they run to Bruce in a panic, often in tears (both men and women alike), asking how much they would owe and what it would cost to get them out of it.
Nevertheless, audits happen, and they are uncomfortable. LegalShield (formerly Pre-Paid Legal) charges a discounted fee. Our fees are all inclusive and cover up to 8 hours, which is equivalent to at least a $2000 to $5000 value. And for only a couple hundred dollars this is an amazing deal, especially for something this scary which could lead to a financial hardship if not handled correctly.
And in time, as we continue to build out our infrastructure, we do have plans to turn the 8 hours into an unlimited offering. But the fact still remains, most audits do not take more than 8 hours to handle.
One mistake can add up to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Although you may be capable, you’re not a qualified expert. I just snaked my shower a few months ago to stop water backup, but last week I took a shower and the water was backing up again. I probably need to call a plumber before my pipes overflow.
The point is, you really should have a professional do your taxes, or review them to get back the money you’re losing every year by missing items. Mistakes are made on returns all the time and create lost refunds or problems later on.
Probably half of all returns filed have issues varying from small to large. The real question here is, are you qualified to answer whatever questions are asked of you by TurboTax or another software? By not really understanding it or answering the way you think it should be answered usually ends up creating problems and lost refunds.
That is incorrect. The Fast Start Bonus IS in addition to the Unilevel commissions.
Now, I will address comments made by K. Chang:
You’re comparing apples and oranges. What you’re referring to are the costs for filing. These have to be paid to the state regardless, and we do not mark these up… and, the same state fees are passed onto you. You have to pay these fees regardless as to whether you go through us, another company like LegalZoom, or you do it on your own.
Most returns for businesses are complicated. Sure, the software might be cheap, but most errors are created by the self-employed form. As a matter of fact, this form is the most important for this service. Which incorporation should you choose? What would fit your tax or legal needs best?
Should you be a schedule C or another business entity? What write-offs are you using? Are you audit heavy? These are textbook reasons for signing up with PrepayCPA, if you plan on filing this way, as we have experts ready to answer these questions and more for you.
Just as a price comparison… to get an Incorporation done with LegalZoom, you would pay a total of $383 vs. only $199 with PrepayCPA, and we give you so much more, i.e. audit protection; tax review; tax notices; and liens & levies… not to mention, we have experts that you can communicate with live!
LegalZoom is not a law firm, and cannot give legal advice. And yes, we have lawyers on staff!
https://www.legalzoom.com/legal-incorporation/incorporation-pricing.html
Scroll down to the bottom of the LegalZoom page to see the services LegalZoom charges extra for, which we include:
Complete Federal Tax ID Application $30.00
Complete & Obtain Tax ID from IRS $79.00
Complete S Corporation Election $45.00
Obtain S Corporation Status from IRS $80.00
Professional Corporations $50.00.
The IRS has added 16,000 new IRS agents, with a record-breaking annual budget of 5.5 Billion Dollars! From 2009 to 2010, tax audits increased by about 11%. We have seen a substantial increase in 2011, but the stats are still out for this year.
We alone handle close to 100 notices a month. The cases won this week: we were able to remove $31,410, $2,518, $4,311, and $893. These cases closed this week. Our fees range from $500 to $1,800 to fight them. That would have been worth the payment alone to PrepayCPA. However, we will not handle pre-existing conditions. Or, they could have paid Taxmasters or another tax legal firm $3,000 to $4,000 to fight this.
A big point is that sometimes fees prevent you from fighting the IRS. But we cover that for only a few hundred dollars, so almost any case is worth fighting if it can be disputed.
Although Bruce is a CPA but not an attorney, we do, however, have lawyers on staff. Perhaps now you are more impressed? 😉
We are in all states!
If you’re the best at what you do, then why do you need to outsource to others? The fact is we prefer the autonomy, quality control, and personal oversight of handling everything in-house, rather than outsourcing to third party vendors, hoping and praying that they will do a good job for our customers. I am sure you see the benefit in that!
Yikes! We agree that this is weak. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
Bruce is revamping his website to get rid of this canned garbage that came with the purchase of his website from a website developer who specializes in CPA websites.
Again, thanks. Bruce will have to change this too!
I look forward to your feedback.
Regards,
David Track
CEO & Co-Founder, PrepayCPA
Hi David, thanks for the feedback and contributing to the discussion here on BehindMLM.
What does “our industry” have to do with anything? I’ve noted that you keep bringing up the need for accountants to understand “our industry”. Are you suggesting that there is no retail demand for PrePaidCPA’s product?
You sound as if your product has been specifically tailored exclusively to those working in the MLM industry.
Only if you interpret it incorreclty. It’s a simple, truthful statement of fact.
Regardless, it’s still quite a steep jump and not an ‘industry norm’ as you put it. Most MLM compensation plans I’ve analysed (not just looked at) are much more gradual in promotion rank requirements. This one stood out as quite a steep jump and I noted this as such.
Good to hear it. If it becomes an official product line be sure to let us know and I’ll update the article. This was/is a pretty big negative as far as my review was concerned.
So who are you getting to do the Tax Prep/Tax filing then? You’re gunna tell me your CFO runs his own accounting firm and there’s no suggestion anywhere to use their services should a clients need rise above what they get with Prepaid CPA?
You’re alleging that 70-80% of tax accountants are incompetant…? If I pay someone to do my taxes, I certainly don’t expect there to be a 70-80% chance that they don’t do a good enough job. Yet that appears to be what you’re suggesting?
And regarding saving $100,000s on a tax return, I’d want to hope anyone filing tax returns involving this sum of money wasn’t just doing it themselves, that’d be a pretty big departure from common sense.
My reference was to my own tax returns, not anyone elses. My own return is easy enough as I don’t play around with $100,000s.
This was from the line,
I took ‘commissionable volume’ to mean coming out of your unilevel commissions. I’ll accept your clarification that it doesn’t, but you might want to reword this sentence in the plan as that’s how it reads.
or some such might better explain it (?).
Hi! I am not a rep of PrepayCPA, but I’m very interesting on this opportunity. I do not believe Mr. Track stating that Tax accountants are incompetent. That’s not what he said.
What he trying to explain is that the majority of people in general made mistakes around 70% to 80% of the time when they filed their tax returns. I hope this helps.
Then what was this about?
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Mr. Track was referring to the software services like Turbo Tax, not the individual Tax accountants. Every Accountants are human, and can make mistakes. No where did Mr. Track ever said or implied that Tax Accountants are incompetent.
You said it. Very poor choice of words, sir.
If tax accountants aren’t working for ‘other companies’, who is? Trained monkeys?
And who do you think developed Turbo Tax, the same trained monkeys working for the ‘other companies’?
The implication is obvious, ‘use us or you’re getting a tax return full of grave mistakes’.
Agreed.