Telegram shuts down Lara With Me Ponzi bot
The Achilles’ Heel of the Lara With Me Ponzi scheme is the use of Telegram to coordinate Ponzi payments and withdrawals within the company.
As noted in our BehindMLM Lara With Me review, published back in July;
If Telegram investigate and shut down Lara With Me’s API access, the scheme instantly collapses.
Not surprisingly, that appears to have now happened.
Less than 24 hours ago Lara With Me attempted to cover up fraud reports made to Telegram by claiming ‘fake bots were using similar Lara nicknames‘.
What this has to do with Telegram investigating and shutting down Lara With Me’s bot is unclear.
In any event, Lara With Me’s anonymous Russian admins claimed they were
having a discussion with telegram support team in order to fix this misunderstanding and remove that weird notification you can see from each button press.
The “weird notification” in question was a warning message advising Telegram users that the Lara With Me Bot had been flagged as a scam.
The outcome of purported discussions between Lara With Me and Telegram has now apparently resulted in Telegram revoking API access to the Lara With Me bot.
Some functionality of or LARA bot was blocked by telegram directly.
This means otherwise automated activity within Lara With Me has come to a stand-still.
Lara With Me claim to be processing payments manually, however multiple affiliates on the Lara With Me Facebook page are reporting non-payment:
I did a withdraw of 50 dollars to my bitcoin account and it said the money has been sent but when I checked my bitcoin wallet the money is not there.. Why?
I also requested withdrawal to my bitcoin wallet. But haven’t received yet. I think, Lara is now getting away with our money.
Same here. requested bitcoin withdrawal almost 12 hours ago and no coins yet in my wallet.
I have withdrawn but doesn’t reflect to wallet..this would be the first payment.
Made a request to withdraw $15 but i haven’t been paid….smiles or apprehension?
Rather than acknowledge API access to the Lara With Me bot was revoked because Telegram don’t condone Ponzi fraud, Lara With Me claim “people” and “administrators” reporting the bot are “fully responsible”.
Since coordination of Lara With Me’s Ponzi scheme relies on access to the Telegram API, should the ban stay in place it’s highly likely Lara With Me will collapse.
i hope they will find a workaround and not collapse ehh.
Telegram is not abusing lara now .. But it’s abusing members .. that have joined lara I hate telegram people to listen to such lies ..
I’ve been with lara for a month now …but not even one day I never get my money .. The payment was instant…
People are just jeleouse that lara is taking over and it was the best program. .. I think if they destroying lara and our money becouse they not distroying lara alone ..
I Think Everyone Will StaY Away Of Telegram Because I Also Knew Telegram becouse Of lara.
While it’s amusing that Lara With Me Ponzi investors think Telegram wasn’t around prior to the launch of Lara With Me…
Riiiiiiight. Lara With Me is arguably abusing Telegram to run a Ponzi scheme.
I’m pretty sure that’s not what the Telegram bot API was designed for.
So you’ve successfully managed to steal money from people who joined Lara With Me after you. Congratulations, here’s a cookie.
Yeah no, I’m totally sure that’s why Telegram shut the Lara bot down. Nothing triggers corporate jealousy faster than Ponzi fraud.
Oh for sure. What with the news of Lara bot being shut down, the 100 million active monthly users currently using Telegram will probably drop to zero now.
Are you happy now because people will starve becouse of you.
They took their hard earnings to invest on lara and now you distroying lara. You shouldn’t do that at least you should wait for lara to collapse..
I will alwas blame telegram for this.
If people are starving as a result of investing in Ponzi schemes such as Lara With me, the only people to blame are those such as yourself who scammed them.
Anyone but yourself. How typical.
you must ask the admin of lara with me to return investors money to them so that they do not starve.
but, you don’t know who the admins of lara with me are….
you were sending your hard earned money to unknown strangers in a ponzi scam, and yet you have the gumption to blame people who are only reporting the scam and preventing more people from losing money and starving.
the unknown lara with me admin/owner is asking investors to send mails to telegram saying:
so, regular payments mean a scam is not a scam? so, till a ponzi scheme pays it’s not a scam and when it stops paying it becomes a scam?
this^^ is an er, very logical ‘definition’ of a scam, and i’m sure telegram will weep tears of remorse and activate lara with me again!
At 3 months or so at 3% a day (~270% ROI), Lara With Me was going to collapse within a month or so anyway.
I suppose this way the admin(s) get to keep what’s left (they were always going to do a runner at some point anyway).
Everyone who really things that a systems that pays out 3% is realistic is dump or fucking naive. Sorry!
However, what happens right now is strange….
So Lara uses Telegram for a Ponzi sheme. Telegram gets a lot of more popularity and more users.
If Telegram is really interested in killing this Ponzi sheme, why do they fuck up the APIs so that Lara could not pay out anymore?
Wouldn*t it make much more sense to avoid that people pay more money in the system?
If telegram is interested in a good reputation they would somehow force lara to pay the money back to the people who had invested in Lara.
Right now, everybody will be angry about Telegram because they are the reason that some people lose a lot of money.
Sounds pretty good for the unknown anonymous admins of lara – they can always blame Telegram and Telegram will have over 100.000 angry enemies!
Interesting is also that Lara obviously comes from Russia and the founders of Telegram are also russians….Just saying that there is maybe a bigger strategy behind all that.
So please use your brain!
So you accept collapse as inevitable, which means there will be some who lose out. I guess what you’re really angry at is that it’s you who has lost out, not some other sucker?
Sorry if you are “investing” in some random thing promising ludicrous payouts in the internet to the extent that you’ll starve if it doesn’t work, then I guess the Darwin awards is looking for you.
@Martino
Telegram had a hundred million active monthly users as of February 2016. Whatever signups they gained from Lara With me was a drop in the ocean.
Because their concern is abuse of the Telegram platform to commit fraud. Closing down Ponzi schemes is a job for regulators.
Lara With Me have shut down their official Facebook page.
But remember, they’re totally not doing a runner.
Those who have wrong mindset about LARA why didn`t you joined first before you apply your reactions, LARA is good until you reported it as scam.
What is the correct mindset for a Ponzi scheme?
“Oh hai guys, here take my money… I don’t need it anyway”?
Whether Telegram shut the bot down or not, Lara With Me was going to run out of money anyway.
Not even Russian Ponzi scammers can beat basic mathematics.
TELEGRAM should be SHUT Down… I really hope LARA finds another platform to run on. These DUMB Telegram IDIOTS does not even know what a Ponzi Scheme is.
Look at Insurance companies and Call them Ponzi Schemes. Lara is a TRADER…
LONG LIVE LARA, TELEGRAM MUST FALL.
Regards
Johan
A Ponzi scheme uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
That’s exactly what Lara With Me does.
Salty much?
Thing is that you can report anything as a scam, no one shuts it down just based on what someone on the internet writes.
What they’ll do if anything is follow up on the evidence presented and reach their own conclusions as to what to do.
I would guess Telegram looked at the evidence and decided it didn’t want to get more such things, and then a reputation for hosting them (too much potential for damage to it’s reputation) and pulled the plug.
I Do BTC , Eth and Other Coin Trading on a Daily basis EXACTLY the same way that the LARA Bot does to generate income. Do you call me a Ponzi Scheme too, because I make Money TRADING?
Please get educated about the Trading industry before you make Idiots of yourselfs LIKE TELEGRAM is doing.
Makes me wonder if TELEGRAM is NOT connected to the Mainstream Media controlled by the Banking Sector…???
How do you know how Lara With Me generates income? Are you running the company?
The only verifiable source of revenue entering Lara With Me is invested affiliate funds. Using those funds to pay off existing investors = Ponzi scheme.
Aaaand now the Lara With Me website has been put into maintenance with the following message:
Best of luck trying to recover the bitcoin you all sent to anonymous Russian scammers.
Looking forward to a Much Chuckle Monday as a succession of feral butthurt children (see Johan, Martino etc.) throw their toys out of their prams.
Admin of Ponzi Party Poopers @newschannel on Telegram analysed their inbox on the subject of Lara
i.imgur.com/Ynu9okr.jpg
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NO Oz. If you reach $500 You will be able to see where the trading is done, by checking your Portfolio Access..
I Use THE SAME Trading sites to do business EVERY Day. NO PONZI!!!
YES OZ.. What did you expect? Under what ROCK do you live.
When the Communication Platform you are Using to Communicate with your Investors and YES The same Platform that Uses Etherium Technology, Hench the Reason the LaraWith.me SYSTEM Can actually USE the system for Financial transaction, CLOSE YOUR DOORS…
You have to REROUTE and fand another Vehicle to drive Communication.
And YES, ALL TRADING is HIGH RISK..
Gues you have never really Invested, just played around with money on other peoples systems…
Education is EXTREMELY important in TRADING OZ…
So you independently arrived at the Magic Formula for Untold Riches that Lara use, the one where $1000 will grow to $14,300 in three months, so what do you do?
Put money into an anonymous website rather than keep reinvesting in your own “portfolio”…..
Sure. Face up to it kiddo, you’ve been scammed.
if lara with me admin/s are such super duper traders that they can pay you all 3% everyday, why do they need to collect funds from you?
they would take out a loan and earn 3% everyday and be super duper rich by now. they would be more famous than investors like warren buffet and not be anonymous scammers who have stolen a lot of money from you all, and left you stranded to come and vent on forums like this one.
grow a brain johan, don’t spend your time being silly.
$1000 become $14000… I do that on a weekly basis. It is just nice that Lara can ADD that Value to my life without ME doing the work…
Come on Guys. Small things amuses Small Minds. You must have a bigger dream than earning 10% to 15% profit per month??
BehindMLM – Amazing name, but do you really Understand the TRUE Power of Networking and especially how the investment of a 1000 people can generate a 50% to 90% income machine like Lara, that is currently doing trading with more than $30 000 000, I only invest a meager $120 000 per day…
Think a little bigger than Throwing around names like Ponzi and Pyramid, We all know (Ozedit: Oftopic derail attmepts removed)
Again I say, Lack of Vision and EDUCATION is Causing this Issue.
NO Vision from Telegram and People NOT being Educated what the true nature of MONEY(FIAT Currency ONLY) is..
aaaand the bullshit meter just EXPLODED.
yeah, lara with me has barely been pronounced dead and all your ponzi pals are already peddling new ponzi’s.
i’m sure you’re in a hurry! the quicker you join the more you’ll make!
Yeah, but being a janitor for banks and insurance companies doesn’t really qualify you as an investment advisor, now, does it ???
Losing $5000 an hour, my a**
The next time you make $5000 in an hour will be the first.
Back to school with you.
sure thing.
reading your comical rant is first grade free entertainment!
THUD
uh, was that ….
OMG, Lara Babe, It’s Sad To see You Bye Bye to Me, This is Just To Let you Know That I made Alots When You’re With Me.
I managed to Withdrew Upto $100k, Now That you’ve been away, I feel so Lonely.. Baby Lara I Hope you Come Back and Be with me Again.
@Johan
The only issue is that Lara With Me is a Ponzi scheme.
You promoting it makes you a scammer. Spare us the usual Ponzi excuse tripe, there is no justification for your actions.
@Johan
So in other words “blahblahblah I’m just talking out my ass 3% a day lol”.
Thankyou for confirming you have no verifiable proof Lara With Me is doing anything with invested funds, other than use it to pay off existing investors.
Cant repeat this to often, every 100 hours you double your money.. whooohahaha even my dog knows better.. all the money you receive is taken from an other .. dont you get it..
Everyone who really things that a systems that pays out 3% is realistic is dump or fucking naive. Sorry!
Right. Of course you do. Do that for 10 weeks on the trot, week 1 1000->14000, week 2 14000->19600 and you’ve now exceed the GDP of the USA. Well done. Do it for a year and you have nearly 4 with 62 zeroes after it. Dream on.
Is it possible to convert $1000 to $14000 in a week, of course it is. Is it possible to guarantee it, No. Is it possible to do it reliably week in, week out. No.
Please telegram should have a re-think about there decision cos we the members of lara with.
we are not complaining so lara should be release today before telegram will also loose it’s value in Nigeria as a country cos it’s lara that made majority of us to be using this particular social media. thanks.
Whether people in Nigeria complain or not doesn’t change the fact that Lara With Me is a Ponzi scheme.
I’m pretty sure scammers engaging in Ponzi fraud isn’t Telegram’s intended user-base.
according to endole.co.uk, lara with me ltd. is registered in the UK with an address of bedfordshire:
alexander kuprin a UK citizen, is listed as the director of lara with me :
cant be sure if alexander kuprin has just been used for the purpose of registration in the UK, but affiliates have often named ‘alexander’ as the ‘creator’ of lara with me on facebook.
endole.co.uk/company/10307799/lara-with-me-ltd
Larawithme says moneys send but when i click the Hash, There is no transactions. Like i thought it has scammed.
No problem for Lara I withdraw instantly..
The reason behind the problem for lara Telegram hostage her for the sake of their interis on money..
Oh my God, if lara not created TELEGRAM never been installed with someone else..
when Laras created word of mounth for telegram has been arise to install it.. it is because of Lara…
@DR77
Tell that to all the people complaining on Facebook before Lara With Me terminated their Facebook page.
And what money was exchanged between Lara With Me and Telegram?
Yet back in February, before Lara With Me ever existed, Telegram had an estimated 100 million plus monthly active users.
Who is running around telling Lara With Me investors they built Telegram?
If telegram really wish to stop lara because it’s a ponzi sceam.
they should have closed the new investment and let lara pay the existing clients..with their investment plans that they have proposed..
I guess this will be the right way… not buy stopping them from making payment…
@shatis
Telegram is not a regulator. They only wanted to stop their platform from being used to commit Ponzi fraud.
By blocking Lara With Me from their bot API they have achieved this.
What i think ,since they’re both from Russia, (not being racist or anything) telegram and Larawithme are in cahoots with each other.
I mean come on, 3 months generated $20M on the larawithme site if I’m not mistaken. That’s a lot, given that time frame. Obviously, they’ve gained the trust of many, who are naive enough to “invest” more thinking “oh lord! I’ll become a millionaire within a year just by clicking onto this everyday.” bs.
And that’s when telegram comes in and “shuts Down” larawithme as a scam. But really, they’re in on it too. I mean, banning Larawithme in exactly 3 months? Well that’s convenient.
How are we even sure it wasn’t telegram who made Lara in the first place and shut it down as an unexplained scam so they’ll come out as the good guy doing lawful justice over it’s premises? And it gets them out of returning the money too…
Besides, wasn’t larawithme such a well made bot for Telegram? It’s like they knew how to fit the bot perfectly for telegram. Coincidence? I think not. This is a conspiracy.
Telegram’s API is public.
All Lara With Me used Telegram for was to host their bot, which was basically used in place of a backoffice.
While the Ponzi conspiracy theories are amusing, Telegram was around long before Lara With Me came along (and is quite popular). And as far as I know, no money changed hands between the two companies.
Funds were invested via bitcoin in the Russian Lara With Me admin(s)’s accounts, which have nothing to do with Telegram.
Anyone can set up a Telegram bot free of charge.
I sort of get it though, Lara With Me investors have no idea who scammed them and buckley’s chance of getting their money back.
Telegram is the only point of contact for most of you and so conspiracy theories against the company it is.
I know telegram beocoz of Lara…. I hve deleted telegram.
And I’m sure Telegram’s owners are sorely lamenting the loss of an account created solely to participate in financial fraud.
You sure showed them.
And realistically that’s why Telegram will want to shut these things down early if there is even the slightest whiff of it being a scam, and why they won’t bow to pressure from a vocal minority.
Why would telegram want their name associated with these things?
Isn’t telegram supposed to be censorship resistant? How are they able to modify someone else’s bot?
They become responsible as the judge and jury to ourprivate online interactions? Not so private… Kind of contradicts what Telegram says it does.
They didn’t, they just disabled the bot’s API access.
Commit Ponzi fraud = no Telegram bot API access for you.
But uh yeah, don’t let that get in the way of your completely irrelevant censorship rant hey.
If they really want pointless conspiracy theories how about this one:
The internal Lara ponzi algo determined that Zero Day was coming soon, so a rogue greedy admin, Alexander the Creator the disappearing Man maybe?, anon alerts Telegram to what’s happening, and hey presto, a perfect exit strategy….
Disabling access, from a bot or a person, is censorship. It could be a Ponzi, it could be not a Ponzi. Who is telegram to decide the bottom line?
Whether it is or not has no bearing on Lara With Me being an illegal Ponzi scheme.
Lara With Me uses newly invested funds to pay off existing investors, it’s a Ponzi scheme through and through.
They didn’t decide anything other than to not associate their platform with Ponzi fraud.
Lara With Me decided it would be a Ponzi scheme when they used newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
Lara is back. Just log in to their official website.
Still Maintenance message/Cloudfare errors here.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
^^ If you want to argue disabling Ponzi schemes is akin to censorship, go find a Sovereign Citizen website to whinge on.
It’s not a Ponzi until it’s proven. You could argue (Ozedit: offtopic sovereign citizen derail attempts removed)
Lara With Me’s business model sees them use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. That proves it is a Ponzi scheme.
lara with me is registered in delaware [USA] and the UK.
they should file a case against telegram there and show the court that they are not a ponzi scheme. why spend countless hours arguing on social media that they are not a ponzi?
Telegram is evil and wicked. Do they took their time to think how many people will loss their money and how much they Will loss if they shut off Lara.
Lara and telegram, who now did more harm. Since l join, l have been regularly paid. I Pray that many who lost their money in Lara should stop patronising telegram. Lara make me to start using telegram.
i cannot confirm whether this comes from the lara with me owner/s, but there are posts on FB stating:
this could mean two things, either the promoters are trying to do the ‘slow fade out’ act to calm tempers and have a ready audience for their next scheme or, the promoters feel they can still squeeze a few more million out of these crazed idiots everywhere who ‘love lara’.
a jason wakefield of the US who seems to be a career ponzi player, has claimed that telegram has said that it has not interfered with lara with me’s API access.but he doesn’t provide any proof of this so it’s just hearsay.
so, either telegram shut down lara with me’s ponzi scheme, or the lara with me promoter ran out of funds and shut his ponzi down while blaming telegram. either way, the fact remains that lara with me was a ponzi scheme and at 3% daily, could not have lived long.
You’ve already lost your money, it’s been used to pay off existing investors.
The Ponzi scheme is the only entity that did harm.
Wait, you were talking about harm to victims right? If you were talking about harm to net-winners who didn’t withdraw stolen funds in time then you’re on your own.
We urgently plead with Larawithme and Telegram to responsibly,wisely and judiciously SETTLE the suffering hopeful masses for Heaven’s sake.What ever joke and secret plan the two hopes to deploy it should not be now and never.
This is because each of members will be Responsible for the bloodshed and international criminal act this is going to result. Russia would not have peace.Their security wouldn’t be able to handle the flow of Wickedness that is going to follow.
The government of Russia quickly manhandle the Pot on fire before it starts to boil. Bokoharam in Nigeria started in this manner when her traits was taken for granted.
Telegram Don’t play the Risk, Larawithme.is don’t mess nor add to the urgly situation at hand.
Even if you are Antichrist stop while it’s day. Note that what so ever reason the two parties are claiming to be having remember it is a well calculated ordeal and a-behind door Arrangement. So Stop and destroy the secret agreement while it never cross over, I beg you in Jesus name.Restore the masses CONFIDENCE.
It’s quite a long period of years the name of Russia has been urgly even from den Bible periods. Now once again I emplore you to repent and restore this art of Insullence and calculated abuse. Come back.
And if you must disintegrate then go back and settle US before your disintegration. With your greatest Fear (God) I invoke you back to Order in the greatest Terms. DSS.Emeka.
^^ That was a great read, thanks for the morning laugh! 10/10 – IGN
holy crap what is wrong with you?
hey, there’s Nothing wrong with him!
he’s just nicely asking the antichrist to ‘repent and restore this art of Insullence and calculated abuse’.
and he’s just gently warning russia about ‘bloodshed and international criminal act this is going to result’.
he just wants his little ponzi. why can’t he have his little ponzi??
Hello,
Telegram didn’t shut down the bot or limited the function of it. The creator did it. Telegram just added the message.
Telegram doesn’t have access to their bitcoin payments… :O?
The payments were coordinated through the bot though.
Can’t imagine Telegram would be too thrilled with their platform being used to commit Ponzi fraud.
this new lara with me website was supposed to go live on the 24th of oct, but guess what – IT DIDN’T !!
ain’t that sucha SURPRISE!!
the lara with me ‘website’ hasn’t launched and there is no word from the unknown admins about a revival of the program.
still, many hopefuls are hanging around lara with me FB pages expecting a restart.
amongst messages of ‘i love you lara’, ‘miss you lara’, ‘come back lara’ i found this gem of a post:
well, now that god has said lara will be back i guess no one needs to worry any more.
david forgot to ask god the launch date and the names of the admins of lara. silly fellow! when he got a hotline to god he should’ve clarified everything!
I was gonna say “Wow bringing God into the ponzi mess, that’s a new low” but then I realized that’s one of oldest things in the ponzi book…
You all should stop with the whole enthusiasm and stupid expectations cuz you all are losers.
You have just been duped,scammed,bamboozled and ridiculed real bad. Our money is gone forever and LARA has been finally shut down.
Pray to God you have other investments cuz there are over a 100 legit companies to invest your money into such as me, I have other investments so I’m not bothered.
I was duped by forexparadise along with other people who put over 10k dollars into it and the so called forex paradise made away with their money. Life goes on folks so when doing things like this, make sure you have other backups.
I have over 8 investments so if 2 doesn’t work out, others will eventually work out so try and heed to my friendly advice.
Keep chasing that Ponzi dream and best of luck with the
scamminglosing.