UK politician wants whole town signed up as Lyoness affiliates
Hailsham is a civil parish and the largest of the five towns in the Wealden district of East Sussex, England.
Back in February, “representatives from Lyoness” were invited to give a ‘short presentation to the Hailsham Forward Executive‘.
According to their website, the Hailsham Forward Executive
was born out of the Mary Portas Vision for revitalising Town Centres.
Hailsham Forward is a Town Team Partner, is supported by the Government, and has received £10,000 funding to undertake projects to improve the business community in Hailsham.
Heading up Hailsham Forward is Chairman Rob Slater and Vice-chairman Nick Collinson.
According to Collinson’s personal website, he’s
a Conservative Party Candidate for Hailsham Central and North Ward.
“I was first elected in May 2011 and then subsequently re-elected in May 2015 to both Hailsham Town Council and Wealden District Council.”
As per Hailsham Town Council’s March 12th Business Enterprise Committee Agenda, referencing a meeting that took place in February:
Representatives from Lyoness made a short presentation to the Hailsham Forward Executive earlier in the day.
The loyalty scheme and card they provide allows the public to get cashback from millions of retailers across 45 countries and local businesses the ability to get repeat business via the cards incentive to shop in a Lyoness Merchant.
There are further benefits for both the public and business that are signed up and then introduce more members and businesses to the scheme.
The Hailsham Forward Executive is keen to look at creating a Hailsham Forward branded card with Lyoness and gain the income benefit to the project by introducing both local people and businesses to the scheme; whilst giving these groups the ability to earn
rewards and gain loyalty with their customers.Further work will need to be done over the coming months to establish this.
Further details about “the benefits” available to Lyoness affiliates can be viewed over on BehindMLM’s Lyoness review.
The March 12th meeting saw the above matter discussed, with Town Council member Nick Collinson (right) advising the committee ‘that he has done some research on a scheme operated by Lyoness‘.
It was agreed that NAC (Nick Collinson) should pursue this including inviting a representative from Lyoness to the next meeting.
Unfortunately at the time of publication, the minutes from the 12th of March 2015 meeting is all that’s available. According to the Hailsham Town Council website, no further meetings for the Business Enterprise Committee have taken place this year.
Regardless, plans to spruik Lyoness through the Town Council appear to be well underway, with an invitation going out to local Hailsham businesses this past week:
If you operate a business within Hailsham, you are invited to a meeting of the newly formed Hailsham Business Forum on Friday 2nd October at the Hailsham Civic Community Hall from 6.30pm.
On the agenda as a “key feature”, is a presentation “by Lyoness”:
A key feature of the first meeting will be a presentation by Lyoness, an international customer loyalty scheme provider, who will outline the benefits for local businesses of establishing a loyalty scheme in Hailsham and the surrounding area.
Such a scheme would provide benefits to both local businesses (by increasing local shopping and purchase of services with the offer of discounts) and local residents, by way of discounts or credits.
The proposed scheme would also provide a small revenue for the Hailsham Forward project to re-invest in the town.
Town and district Councillor Nick Collinson, who is a member of the Hailsham Forward Executive said: “Setting up this forum is, like with the Residents’ and Community Forums, an important step as it’s crucial that businesses in the town have an input into how Hailsham develops in the coming years.”
“We would like as many local businesses as possible to get involved in this new forum.”
Standard procedure for signing up Lyoness merchants is to get them to invest thousands of dollars in exchange for accounting units (now referred to as “shopping units” in Lyconet).
These merchants then hand out Lyoness membership cards to their unsuspecting customers, on the promise of discounts. The hope is that enough of these customers will go on to become Lyoness affiliates, themselves investing money directly into accounting/shopping units.
These invested units push the merchants initial units closer to maturity, with enough new units invested in paying the merchant a sizeable ROI (determined by their initial accounting/shopping unit configuration).
Here’s where things get murky.
For Hailsham Forward, a “government supported” entity run by Hailsham Town Council members, to sign up as a Lyoness merchant, someone has to recruit them.
That someone is going to cash in if enough Hailsham local businesses sign up as Lyoness merchants and affiliates.
Who that someone is? We don’t know.
Here’s what we do know.
Nick Collinson owns Chapter 12 Wine Bar, a local Hailsham business.
Chapter 12 Wine Bar doesn’t show up on the Lyoness official merchant list (I searched the UK Lyoness website), but does hold “business networking nights”:
Having listened to the feedback from our regular networkers, we have changed the format of the evenings!
We now don’t charge any entry price! So now you can come along and promote your business without charge.
Held on the last Thursday of every month (This month that’s Thursday 27th August) The evening starts at 6.00pm and runs until 8.00pm and will follow an informal and friendly format as always, allowing plenty of opportunity to discuss your business, but without the need to do a formal presentation or ‘1 minute’. [ 35 more words. ]
The informal format for the evenings is that we’ll usually have a guest speaker to discuss their particular business or subject of interest and then a period of ‘free networking’ afterwards, allowing you the opportunity to engage with the other business people attending.
Whether or not Lyoness is presented at these nights is unclear. Ditto whether Collinson as an individual has signed up as a Lyoness affiliate.
Lyoness meanwhile has been promoted in Hailsham as far back as January 2015.
The hosts of that event were Liz Wright and Jo Bremner, who are in a civil partnership.
Jo Bremner, who published as Joanna Bremner on Facebook is aware of and following developments between Lyoness and Hailsham Town Council.
What’s the bet Bremner and Wright were the “representatives from Lyoness” who gave the original presentation to Hailsham Forward back in February?
Not that they don’t exist, but I was unable to find any other promotion of Lyoness in Hailsham – leading me to believe Wright and Bremner are at the top or near enough to the local Hailsham Lyoness affiliate hierarchy.
Their connection to Collinson is unclear, but I’m guessing they’ve pitched Lyoness to him at some point. Or at least someone else in their Lyoness downline has.
Now you have a Hailsham Town Council member attempting to promote Lyoness with the local government’s blessing, using government funding (and a database of local businesses), to push Lyoness onto Hailsham business owners.
Should enough of them sign up, trusting that signing up as a Lyoness affiliate is in their best interests, somebody stands to make a lot of money in matured accounting/shopping units.
Who might that be I wonder…?
And why hasn’t the glaring conflict of interest between Nick Collinson being a local business owner, Town Council member and potential Lyoness affiliate been brought up?
Were I a Hailsham local business owner, the first thing I’d be asking at this Hailsham 2nd of October meeting is who has/is going to sign up Hailsham Forward as a Lyoness affiliate.
I’d then ask whether any of the £10,000 in government funding Hailsham Forward received is to be or has already been spent on Lyoness accounting/shopping units. If not, then whether or not Hailsham Forward plan to or have spent public funds signing themselves up as Lyoness affiliates.
Finally I’d also ask whether or not Nick Collinson is in that Lyoness downline genealogy (in any capacity), with an emphasis on who stands to profit through Lyoness if Hailsham businesses sign up and by how much.
Something doesn’t smell right here…
Update 22nd September 2015 – Hailsham’s Town Clerk has reached out to us regarding the questions/issued raised above.
The planned October 2nd Lyoness presentation has been cancelled. Plans to encourage Hailsham businesses to sign up to Lyoness have also been suspended pending a “thorough investigation”.
“millions of retailers”
Now isn’t that a claim you’d like to see verified before a court ???
This information it’s not true.
Please , check your shource
^^ Nevermind what’s in your compliance booklet, that’s what happens.
Oz, there are many things that you stated in your post that simply are not accurate.
First of all merchants can not “invest” or purchase accounting units. When a merchant joins the Lyoness network they get a terminal used to register their customers, a set of rewards cards branded with their business name and logo, and a suite of CRM tools designed by sales force for a flat fee.
There are absolutely no units of any kind associated with this. The Lyoness SME Loyalty program is a stand-alone product.
Customers receive cashback and shopping points which can be redeemed for deals at Lyoness Merchants for special offers. Customers are NEVER encouraged to join the marketing arm of Lyoness and in fact, oblivious to it’s existence.
Lyoness has never claimed that there are “millions of retailers” world wide. A complete list of all participating merchants can be found at Lyoness.com.
Lyoness encourages it members to spend money at it’s members merchants in local communities. Since when is that a bad thing?
The Lyoness GTC’s are available for all to see.
There are also a wealth of people that would be more than willing to speak to you in person to help you gain a clear understanding of exactly what Lyoness does and how the program helps small business.
again, there is no need for affiliates if this shopping is as great as all you scammers claim, the shopping would stand on it’s own.
Just like the flexkom scam, merchants are not going to just dole out extra discounts that cost them more for no reason when they can do it themselves for free.
@whip, have you ever heard of Groupon or Restaurants.com? Merchants don’t “dole out” discounts for nothing at all.
Most merchants regularly offer coupons and other daily deals to attract customers. The Lyoness SME program is simply away for merchants to attract new customers (they don’t pay for advertising until AFTER they have secured the customer), and reward their loyal customers to aid in customer retention.
They also create a secondary source of income when their customers shop at other participating Lyoness merchants.
That you don’t want it to be true, doesn’t mean it isn’t.
It’s true enough.
According to Markie in the other thread, they separated “entrepreneurs” from “merchants and consumers” in November 2014, Lyconet and Lyoness.
So most merchants are Premium Members too, all the old ones. But we’re not sure about the new ones.
Many merchants are not comfortable with the investment part, so it actually makes sense if they have made premium memberships for merchants become “optional” rather than “mandatory”.
Sure they can. We’ve had a number of them appear here on BehindMLM over the years and try to justify their investment.
And if they invest, some AUs to go along with all of that.
Given that you have not witnessed every Lyoness merchant/customer interaction, the above is a load of crap.
So is what actually happens in Lyoness, so spare us the “reading from a script” compliance garbage.
they absolutely do. you now nothing about how a real business works so you can not comment. I can give any of my customers any discount I want and I don’t have to be signed uo with any of these scams.
I feel so sorry for you Lindsey. How deluded, how indoctrinated, must you be to still defend this scam after all the evidence that has surfaced? That is, unless you work for Lyoness corporate, of course.
Oh good grief. I know a person who has over 5,000 in his downline, and another who has over 9,000 in their downline. His big check for the whole month was just a little over $12.
No-one in his group is shopping, and neither is anyone in the person who has over 9,000 in their downline. It is pathetic.
I am hoping that the FTC has them next up for a take-down, and it would really make my day if they also took down Dubli.
But according to Lindsey, Shufel, and Markie they have to be lying. Too funny!
(Ozedit: Offtopic waffle about non-MLM company removed)
They are not helping the chamber of commerce. In this case this local chamber can earn an income to support the local businesses without putting in a nickel.
Yes of course if the head of the chamber gets involved he should declare his conflict of interest.
So far you have no proof of this and is casting aspersions on this gentleman’s character which is unfair.
If I were bringing in this chamber I would voluntarily down pay some units for them from m own pocket and not require them to pay a dime. This is a loyalty program like so many others just far superior.
Lyoness points are worth minimum $7.50 and there are close to 1400 merchants in only 4 years.
That’s probably why so many businesses are longing to get on-board.
got proof of that? if not, your post is meaningless.
I’m not familiar with Lyoness points.
“Points” of any type are normally not worth anything. That’s why discounts and bonuses are stored as “points” rather than as money.
It will first cost the “points giver” something when people have collected enough points for a free travel, hotel weekend, etc., and decides to actually use the points.
“Points” and “units” are not worth anything as investments either, i.e. you can’t sell them to other investors in a normal market.
1 unit of gold (e.g. 1 American Eagle, 1 oz.) can relatively easily be sold in a normal market.
1 “AC3 unit” can only be sold to some “true believers”, e.g. you must first find them, and then you must show them how the system will make them rich before they can get interested enough to pay for it.
They believe in systems that will make them rich, reflections of what they always have dreamed about. You will find some of them, e.g. someone managed to find you.
I would have preferred the “1 unit of gold” option, simply because it’s easier to sell. Hubert Friedl (sp?) prefer the money from investors. He prefer selling the units rather than buying them.
@Tower5
The government has to sign up either as a merchant ($$$) or Lyoness affiliate ($$$ for units).
How is it “unfair” to ask the question? It’s obviously logical to think a Town Councillor pushing Lyoness is involved financially. What, Collinson is organizing this out of the goodness of his heart (as a local business owner no less)?
Please.
Somebody somewhere is going to have to fund this Ponzi venture, with this ultimately only going to reflect poorly on the Hailsham Town Council (either when the Ponzi penny drops or when people start losing money).
Loyalty programs don’t let you invest in positions that pay a ROI once enough subsequent positions have been invested in. Ponzi schemes do.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed) I only mentioned another loyalty program to give some comparison. They have a different model from Lyoness. (Ozedit: And that’s why comments about them were removed, completely irrelevant)
Lyoness does word of mouth through a referral program and share the profit with the marketers and members. Should we not be paid for what we do in building this community.
More and more organizations who need to raise funds will align themselves with Lyoness in order to earn the friendship bonus (up to half .5%) on the spending of their membership.
Their members join for free go shopping in a lot of cases where they normally shop get cash back of 1-5% plus points and help their underlying organization to earn money without digging in their pocket.
Unlike your constant contention these shoppers do not ever have to “invest in AU’s” in fact they know nothing about units at all. Pray tell what is wrong with that?
Who will buy them, and where does it say in Lyoness AUP that they can be traded?
Nothing to prevent a merchant from signing up as user under his/her own name, of course.
Not through a Ponzi investment business model.
After eleven years, it’s a myth.
Nobody makes anything in Lyoness without investing in AUs and recruiting others who do the same.
Lyoness changed something in its “organizational structure” in November 2014 — separating it into Lyconet and Lyoness. Before that date, almost every shopper knew about the AU system.
One question from me …
Did the change in business structure completely erase the memory of the existing shoppers?
You claim “they know nothing about units at all”, but they clearly knew about units before November 2014.
Most people don’t really make any money in Lyoness. Most of them believe in dreams about all the money they will make when enough units have been generated.
Are you talking about money you have made (withdrawals) or money you potentially can make (invested in units, etc.)?
You don’t seem to know the difference, that’s why I had to ask about it.
You are all very , but very wrong. My respectful advice is to check everything very well before you do some statement. Do not collect your information from some random blog in internet or you may be collecting wrong information (Like in this one) .
@Lindsey I agree with you. This is a tool for the SME’s . Not a Magic potion to save some bad SME. IF you have a good product or service and you work whit Lyoness, Gropoun (what ever ) your business will have more clients and client retention. And whit Lyoness SME you have SAlesforce which is the best CRM product in the word.
@Lynndel “Lynn” Edgington if some one have a big Lifeline and don’t have income that’s only one option : He is not doing is work right. The work of any Lyconet is to educate the Client that the card is free and he can have discounts.
For one bad example you can´t judge all the Lyoness system.
you haven’t proven any of this is incorrect.
And your proof is?
My respectful advice to you is stop pretending you are God and only you know the “truth” so you accuse of everybody else being stupid / ignorant… without any proof.
Asking people to believe you without presenting any evidence is called faith… exactly what God does.
And if you are arguing with “some random blog in internet ” are you are clearly not God, merely someone with a delusion.
@K Chang – I don’t have to prove that this (or other company) are legit or have a good product or service. Is precisely in the other way. You have to prove your statement that is not legit etc.
And you allways fail in that to this Lyoness thing.
I simply inform you from my experince. And that experience is from my won life.
But @K Chang I can see where came your faith… “An MLM Skeptic” is normal to find negative things or things that he didn’t understand.
It though this was a legit indepedent blog with I can learn from people in the field .
But my advice is the same. Research in better places.
“accuse of everybody else being stupid / ignorant… without any proof.”
By the way… I am not God AND in any time call any one Stupid.
Bye , good work
You don’t offer anything yourself — any factual information people actually can check. So why should anyone listen to you?
“You are all very, very wrong” isn’t the type of information people normally will be looking for on the internet.
“My respectful advice is to check everything very well before you do some statement” is an advise you should have followed yourself, but you didn’t. So you don’t exactly live by your own rules, but you like to tell others to do it.
Here’s something you should have checked before posting:
behindmlm.com/category/companies/lyoness/
What a thoroughly convincing argument.
In other news, Lyoness continue to run their AU investment Ponzi scheme…
Looks like Lyoness met all its strategic goals for 2015 and makes plans towards 2020 – with June press release they were claiming
lyoness-corporate.com/getattachment/1f8380cc-14d0-4964-8554-6cd5fa7ec306/Lyoness-Press-Information-%28Qatar%29.aspx
Same figures were also mentioned in older press kits editions as a goal for end of 2012, but this time message is slightly different:
lyoness-corporate.com/getattachment/1f6a5ffe-7797-47b8-a339-618a6818fdd7/Lyoness-Press-Information.aspx
I wonder if new goal for 2020 (8% of population in 30 less populated countries) is not set lower than those 25 milion people in EU only to join Lyoness by 2012 (and 2015) 😀
Had to pop into this conversation. To be very clear:
Merchants and shoppers are in Lyoness. There are NO units in Lyoness and people joining Lyoness are NOT joining anything like an MLM; it is purely a Loyalty program.
Merchants join for a few thousand dollars, getting listed on our website, our mobile app, they get some incredible sales tools and a wireless-connected tablet, flags, flyers and several hundred Lyoness cards they can hand out to their customers.
Did I say anything about Units? Nope. This has nothing to do with Units.
merchants join because they want more BUSINESS to their company; Loyalty programs WORK and Lyoness works, and works BEST if there are other local merchants in the vicinity.
These merchants share the customers and in fact a merchant can give a Lyoness card to their customer and they MAKE a little bit of money when their customer shops elsewhere. It’s like monetizing the Chamber of Commerce.
Shoppers get a FREE card and get Cashback and Shopping Points (which they can redeem for future discounts at a Lyoness merchant who is offering a discount in exchange for Shopping Points).
So shoppers get actual CASH when they shop at a Lyoness Merchant. Did I say anything about Units? NO. Shoppers have NOTHING to do with Units.
These are the reasons I’m sure that this politician wants to keep the shopping dollars LOCAL…and by having a lot of local merchants in the Lyoness Merchant Network that’s exactly what will happen.
Merchants make more sales and pay only a small percentage of a purchase after the fact, so they’re happy.
Shoppers get CASHBACK by shopping at a merchant and buying what they’re already buying so they’re happy.
Whoever gave them the card (probably a merchant) just made a little bit of money when their customer shopped elsewhere so they’re happy, too. THAT’S what Lyoness is all about.
Or… as we’ve seen defended here on BehindMLM by countless merchants, merchants sign up to Lyoness and pay thousands of dollars for account units and Lyoness cards.
They hand out the cards to shoppers they think might invest in AUs and if they do, the merchant gets a cash ROI on their own units.
Wash, rinse and repeat.
Maybe not in yours, but they definite are in the official literature.
Which I guess, makes you a denier of reality.
What do you think all the other posts on Lyoness is? Chopped liver? The fact that you didn’t care to read them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Your turn.
and once again you’d be wrong.
Hard brainwashing effect.
That’s why to get Units you need to put cash on bank account of a company located in Switzerland (or in Austria if you’re Swiss).
You’re using some type of “trained technique”, but not very professional one. You didn’t really “have to pop in”. 🙂
Lyoness and Lyconet ARE two separate companies in the same group. We have already clarified that. There’s no dispute about it (other than the ones you randomly manage to create yourself).
I have even referred to you as a source for that information in post #8.
That information should be clear enough. I tried to make it short since it already has been mentioned multiple times.
@Markie
If you’re interested in “communication tricks”, you will find one in a different thread:
behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/concord-consulting-limited-review-20000-script-ponzi/#comment-346062
It’s about “How to tell lies, but still feel like an honest person”. I won’t recommend you to use it, but knowing about methods like that may be useful.
I analysed some claims made in post #7 about “honest person”.
The owner of the company used some “marketing skills” and “psychological tricks” to sound like a trustworthy person. And he really sounded believable until I checked details.
You can get more information in that thread. I can show you how it works.
I gave a rather lengthy overview in post #14 there (different thread).
behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/concord-consulting-limited-review-20000-script-ponzi/#comment-346131
Markie’s own communication strategy, “post lengthy posts, clearly explaining that consumers and merchants have absolutely nothing to do with AU units, etc.”, have now been ruined.
He has clearly been offered a chance to tell that story in a different thread, and it has been accepted. So he didn’t have any legitimate reason to repeat it over and over again. His “Had to pop into this conversation” was something he made up himself.
He will need to accept that the short version actually is “good enough” for most people.
Please stop with the self congratulatory mumbo jumbo.
Because it was never mentioned in any of the posts, i hopped over to the UK Lyoness website to find out what it actually costs to join as a merchant.
To say I was shocked is an understatement..
Lemme ask you something.. which local merchant in his right mind is going to indeed pay “a few thousand dollars” AND pay a monthly fee on top of that?
How long is it going to take them to even recoup those costs considering that most of them give no more than a 1 or 2 % discount.
I have all the above (without the tablet and the flags, but who needs it anyway when every business already has an internet enabled device) for less then – one time- 50 British pounds.
Guess it’s time to send some tweets to the good people in Hailsham 🙂
What are you talking about?
I have posted multiple posts about similar things over the years. It has a limited interest, but “what some MLM gurus can teach people and why it may fail” can actually have some relevance for some people.
It costs only a couple grand to get setup. Not every merchant can handle that; we don’t need every merchant.
There’s no monthly fee in North America; not sure about the rest of the world. Once they’re a merchant they only pay a small percentage after someone buys something.
Tell me, how much does it cost when someone spends 2000 dollars on advertising? 2000 dollars. What do they get back from that guaranteed? Answer: Nothing.
With Lyoness, once someone is a merchant they ONLY pay a small percentage after the fact. Say a restaurant sell $100 worth of food and it costs them only $6 to Lyoness AFTER the purchase has been made.
Do you think most merchants would do that?
in Poland startup package is ca $2500 per one point, than if you own small chain Lyoness for each second, third ect. place connected it costs half price
monthly fee depending on the package you pick is from $35 (poor version)to 100$ (each second and next costs half)
just first year is FOC and I think it’s the same in US as well as price levels
branded cashback cards are additional cost depending on quantities the merchant orders (from $2,9 for 1000pcs to $2,1 for $5000)
@Markie
“we don’t need every merchant”.
Uhm,..yes you do, should be the basic principle of the system.
“It costs only a couple grand to get setup”
A couple as in almost $ 3000,= which includes a 12 month free(duh!) Solutions Pack ?
“There’s no monthly fee in North America”
..after 12 months: Ka-ching! $135,= monthly and I’m pretty sure that that’s not an option and will be renewed silently adding another $1620,= in year two.
Big difference between Lyoness v. advertising is I don’t have to fork out $3000,= at once and hoping for the best.
With advertising I can test what works and what not and thus spend those $ 3000,= in smaller amounts during the year.
$6,= fee for Lyoness on a $100,= meal + the cash back the customer gets.
“Do you think most merchants would do that?”
Apparently not seeing that there are only approx. 2200 cash back merchants in entire US.
quechoisir.org/argent-assurance/epargne-fiscalite/placement-financier/actualite-lyoness-du-cash-back-au-systeme-pyramidal
One question from me … Did the change in business structure completely erase the memory of the existing shoppers?
You claim “they know nothing about units at all”, but they clearly knew about units before November 2014.
When I joined Lyoness in July 2011 there was 1.7 mil members today it is approximately 5 million. Close to 1 million probably came in since November so the new members signed up by merchants know nothing about AU’s.
For example I signed a merchant in July 2015 they have since enrolled just over 100 of their customers. None of those people know about units. All they know is that when they shop at that merchant they get cash back and points.
The merchant just created more loyalty to his business, plus these members learned that there are over 40 big merchants here in Canada where they are already shopping anyway such as gas stations, grocery stores, cinemas, drug stores etc where they can get cash back.
The merchant also signed up to sell gift cards for these big merchants as that is the way we shop from them at the moment. The merchant will now make approximately 1.5% of all the shopping done by these new members as they buy groceries and gasoline for life.
The members are happy they get 1-5% cash back and it was free for them to join. At the pace the merchant is signing up his existing customers he will have over 1000 within a year.
Let’s say that these 1000 customers spend an average of $1000 per month, that is $1 million per month. The merchant earns close to $15000.00 per month when his customers are shopping outside his store.
That just leveled the playing field and allowed an SME to compete and actually make money from big box merchants.
This is brilliant and actually gives small business hope. Big box merchants and big business will not be allowed to distribute the card to their customers only SME’s and members can bring other members in.
You have not given the company the credit for the changes they have made, they are probably the most compliant company in the space right now.
Even if the ACCC find some issues with the previous model they have already adjusted it. They may pay a small fine or make a few more adjustments and probably business as usual.
ACN won their case on appeal with the ACCC a few years ago and I feel they had more issues than Lyoness.
^^ What do the hypothetical analogies Lyoness tell you to tell the world have to do with investing in AUs and getting paid to recruit others who do the same?
We’ve all seen the scripted marketing material, all Lyoness affiliate analogies sound the same. None deal with the glaring AU Ponzi investment scheme issue.
Article updated with news that Hailsham Council have cancelled the Lyoness presentation at the October 2nd meeting.
Plans to encourage Hailsham businesses to sign up to Lyoness have also been suspended pending further investigation.
I wonder if the same standards will be applied by local politicians here in Poland, where we have town Komorowo City Hall official website inviting local businesses for an “informative meeting” with Lyconet Marketers, which is planned to be conducted in the city hall conference room…
koronowo.pl/gmina/gmina-aktualnosci/pro0gram-lojalnosciowy-lyoness-spotkanie