IDLife Review: Dietary supplement pharmacy?
IDLife launched in early 2014 and are based in the US state of Texas.
Heading up IDLife management is CEO Logan Stout. In his IDLife corporate bio, Stout credits himself with ‘time in the ministry, business world, pro and college sports‘.
As a 10-time World Series player and coach, a leader of one of the largest companies in the country, and Founder of one of the best and largest baseball organizations in the world, there is no doubt Logan knows how to impact individuals, groups, organizations and companies alike!
On the MLM side of things, Stout (right) cites affiliate membership with Ignite on his LinkedIn profile. Reaching the rank of “Presidential Director”, Stout joined Ignite in April 2005 and left in September of 2013.
Ignite Energy operate in the energy MLM niche and are still around today. In various marketing campaigns for both IDLife and Ignite, Stout is credited as being the number two earner in Ignite when he left.
I wasn’t able to find any information on why Stout left Ignite, however a few months later IDLife went into prelaunch – indicating the launch of IDLife was likely the core reason for his depature.
Prior to Ignite, Stout was an affiliate with Advocare (nutrition and weight loss). Stout joined Advoare in early 2000 and presumably left around the time he signed up with Ignite in 2005.
Read on for a full review of the IDLife MLM business opportunity.
The IDLife Product Line
IDLife operate in the health and nutrition MLM niche, and market a range of dietary products.
- Energy chews ($14.95 for a box of ten) – “a natural, safe complex of nutrients that support increased energy and mental clarity”
- Sleep Strip ($20.95 for a box of ten) – “bring your body into balance so you can enjoy restful, restorative, deep sleep”
- Meal Replacement Formula ($94.95 for a tub with 28 servings) – “non-GMO and free of artificial hormones, lactose, casein, gluten, soy and MSG”
- Appetite Chew ($14.95 for a box of ten) -“a delicious, low-calorie snack that contain a natural citrus extract that helps dull your appetite”
- ID Nutrition – advertised as “vitamin packets” but no retail pricing is provided (vitmains are determined after customer/affiliate takes a survey to determine what supplements are prescribed)
Note that IDLife’s products are also available as a “kit”, which combines various products in their range. IDLife’s product kits come in various flavours and contain a tub of meal replacement formula, energy powder and appetite chews.
IDLife’s various kits retail for $219.97.
The IDLife Compensation Plan
The IDLife compensation plan primarily revolves around getting people to take the ID Nutrition survey, and then committing to a monthly spend based on the supplements that are prescribed.
Additionally, IDLife’s branded products are also generate direct retail commissions, with a residual monthly commission paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
Retail Commissions
IDLife affiliates earn a 30% commission (the difference between the wholesale and retail” cost, on the sale of all IDLife products to retail customers.
Fast Start Bonus
IDLife’s Fast Start Bonus rewards affiliates for acquiring customers within their first 30 days of joining the company. Qualifying customers must sign up for a monthly autoship order.
No specific minimum monthly autoship order is cited, however in a compensation plan video Logan Stout cites $100 as being “the average”.
- if an IDLife affiliate signs up one customer, they earn $100
- if an IDLife affiliate signs up three customers, their first monthly autoship order is free
An additional $200 can be earnt if an affiliate signs up a further six customers within 60 days of joining the company.
The IDLife compensation plan doesn’t explicitly mention this, but I believe, based on comments by Stout’s comments in the IDLIfe compensation plan video, that these customers have to be retail (non-affiliates).
Recruitment Commissions
If an IDLife affiliate recruits a new affiliate, who spends $399 on an associate package or spends $200 on products and generates $300 in retail sales volume, they earn a $100 commission.
This commission is paid out per new affiliate recruited, limited only by how many affiliates are recruited.
Unilevel Commissions
Residual commissions in IDLife are paid out using a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team. All personally recruited affiliates are placed on level one of the unilevel team:
If any of these recruited level one affiliates go on to recruit new affiliates of their own, they are placed on level two of the unilevel team. If any level two affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level three and so on and so forth.
IDLife cap the maximum payable levels at ten, with commissions paid out as a percentage of the sales volume generated by recruited affiliates in the unilevel team as follows:
- levels 1 to 3 – 5%
- levels 4 to 6 – 4%
- levels 7 and 8 – 3%
- level 9 – 2%
- level 10 – 1%
Note that an IDLife affiliate has to qualify to get paid on all ten unilevel levels. This is tracked via IDLife affiliate membership ranks:
- Director – recruit at least one affiliate, generate at least $100 in personal sales and $100 in total downline sales
- Area Director – recruit at least two affiliates, generate at least $150 in personal sales and $600 in total downline sales
- Regional Director – recruit at least two affiliates, generate at least $200 in personal sales and $1200 in total downline sales
- Managing Director – recruit at least three affiliates, generate at least $250 in personal sales and $2500 in total downline sales
- Senior Director – recruit at least four affiliates, generate at least $300 in personal sales and $5000 in total downline sales
- Executive Director – recruit at least five affiliates, generate at least $350 in personal sales and $12,500 in total downline sales
- National Director – recruit at least five affiliates, have two Senior Directors in your downline, generate at least $400 in personal sales and $25,000 in total downline sales
- Vice-Presidential Director – recruit at least six affiliates, have two Executive Directors in your downline, generate at least $450 in personal sales and $50,000 in total downline sales
- Presidential Director – recruit at least eight affiliates, have two National Directors in your downline, generate at least $500 in personal sales and $100,000 in total downline sales
- National Presidential Director – recruit at least ten affiliates, have three National Directors in your downline, generate at least $500 in personal sales and $200,000 in total downline sales
- International Presidential Director – recruit at least twelve affiliates, have three National Directors and one Presidential Director in two separate recruitment legs, generate at least $500 in personal sales and $500,000 in total downline sales
- Global Presidential Director – recruit at least twelve affiliates, have three National Directors and two Presidential Directors in three separate recruitment legs, generate at least $500 in personal sales and $1,000,000 in total downline sales
Qualifying at a higher IDLife affiliate membership rank unlocks more payable unilevel levels:
- Director – level 1
- Area Director – levels 1 and 2
- Regional Director – levels 1 to 3
- Managing Director – levels 1 to 4
- Senior Director – levels 1 to 5
- Executive Director – levels 1 to 6
- National Director – levels 1 to 7
- Vice-Presidential Director – levels 1 to 8
- Presidential Director – levels 1 to 9
- National Presidential Director or higher – levels 1 to 10
Unilevel Matching Bonus
A Matching Bonus is available on unilevel commissions paid down four Regional Director generations.
A generation is defined as all the affiliates between the affiliate qualifying for the match, and the first Regional Director in any given recruitment leg.
Recruitment legs are independent of eachother, with all affiliates falling between the affiliate qualifying for the bonus and this first Regional Director counting as the first generation.
The second generation is defined as all the affiliates in any given recruitment leg found after the first Regional Director and the second Regional Director in that leg.
Note that if no second Regional Director is found, the second generation extends out to the end of the recruitment leg.
Starting at the Regional Director affiliate level, IDLife’s unilevel Matching Bonus is paid out as follows:
- Regional Director – 20% on the first generation
- Managing Director – 20% on the first generation and 10% on the second
- Senior Director -20% on the first generation, 10% on the second and 5% on the third
- Executive Director – 20% on the first generation, 10% on the second and 5% on the third and fourth
- National Director – 20% on the first generation, 10% on the second and third and 5% on the fourth
- Vice-Presidential Director or higher – 20% on the first generation and 10% on the third to fourth
Note that an additional matching bonus percentage is also paid out on any Executive Director or higher ranked affiliates, as per the defined Regional Director generations above.
How many generations this additional bonus is paid out on, along with what percentage is paid out, is determined by an IDLife affiliate’s own membership rank:
- Executive Director – 2% on the first generation
- National Director – 2% on the first generation and 3% on the second
- Vice-Presidential Director – 2% on the first generation and 3% on the second and third
- Presidential Director – 2% on the first generation, 3% on the second and third and 4% on the fourth
- National Presidential Director – 2% on the first generation, 3% on the second and 4% on the third and fourth
- International Presidential Director or higher – 2% on the first generation, 3% on the second, 4% on the fourth and 5% on the fifth
Rank Advancement Bonus
When an IDLife affiliate qualifies at certain ranks (see qualification criteria above), the company pays them out a one-time bonus:
- Executive Director – $750
- National Director – $1250
- Vice-Presidential Director – $2500
- Presidential Director – $5000
- National Presidential Director – $10,000
- International Presidential Director – $20,000
- Global Presidential Director – $40,000
Global Pool Bonus
The IDLife Global Pool consists of 2% of company-wide wholesale sales volume.
The pool is then split between the National Director to International Presidential Director and above ranks, with each rank allocated a percentage share in the pool:
- National Director – 34%
- Vice-Presidential Director – 26%
- Presidential Director – 18%
- National Presidential Director – 12%
- International Presidential Director or higher – 10%
Shares in each pool are allocated evenly among all qualified affiliates at any given rank. Note that as affiliates qualify for higher ranks, they retain shares in the lower ranked pools they’ve already qualified for.
Car Bonus
IDLife affiliates at the National Director or higher rank earn a monthly car bonus:
- National Director – $500
- Vice-Presidential Director – $600
- Presidential Director – $750
- National Presidential Director – $1000
- International Presidential Director – $1500
- Global Presidential Director – $2000
The type of car an IDLife affiliate can put the payment towards is somewhat flexible, however all cars must be pre-approved by IDLife corporate.
Joining IDLife
Basic affiliate membership with IDLife is $99.
The company also markets a $399 “Associate Package”, which included the basic $99 affiliate fee plus “$500 worth of IDLife products”.
Once signed up, an ongoing monthly fee of $19.95 is also applicable.
Conclusion
[3:40] Our actual initial check for gettin those ten customers will be $670. $400 plus $30 times nine people.
Now remember, you also have $500 worth of product that you can consume, give away, sample out, sell – whatever you want to do.
So, you actually have almost a $1200 value on a $399 investment.
-Logan Stout talking about an affiliate’s first check, IDLife compensation plan video
I have no idea why Stout refers to affiliate fees as an “investment” in official IDLife compensation plan videos, but I’ve quoted the above as is (see full clip in the footer).
If one treats IDLife affiliate membership as an investment, the MLM business becomes an exercise in recruiting enough affiliates who pay the $100 a month “average” autoship, who then go on to recruit affiliates who do the same (who go on to etc. etc.), all in the name of everybody looking to recoup their initial affiliate fee “investment”.
If that’s how Stout is indeed running IDLife then that’d sure be a shame.
As I see it the lead in is the supplement survey, which “prescribes” various nutrient supplements based on the answers provided. The questions are of the lifestlye and diet variety you’d expect, also venture into prescription medication, allergies, heridtary conditions and pre-existing medical conditions:
I bolded the text above because it leads to an image on the IDLife website of a doctor holding a stethoscope, next to the following text:
Our team of researchers, nutritionists and scientists (Ozedit: That’s IDLife’s team, not some randoms), can include supplements that can help relieve symptoms of a variety of a medical conditions you might have.
IDLife cover their asses by stating that their online assessment is “based on medical studies and facts”, but is that enough?
Answering the question of whether or not their products are FDA approved, IDLife write
Dietary supplements like ID Nutrition do not require FDA approval.
IDNutrition isn’t exactly a “supplement”, but rather is the name of the survey IDLife use to prescribe their supplements to customers.
And here’s where things get deeply murky. From the IDLife FAQ:
Can’t I get these products at my Grocery/Pharmacy?
No. These products are only available to you through ID Nutrition.
So… IDLife isn’t a pharmacy, but if I fill in a survey that IDLife will prescribe me supplements “that can help relieve symptoms” of medical conditions I might have, using non-FDA approved supplements that I cannot buy anywhere else?
Hmmmmmm…
I’m not the FDA but something about the above just doesn’t sit right with me at all.
Moving onto the compensation plan, all in all, providing there’s significant retail activity going on within the company it didn’t look to shabby. One red-flag I observed was that an affiliate must be at the Director level to qualify for unilevel commissions.
The qualification for the Director rank requires the recruitment of at least one affiliate, meaning that to qualify for MLM commissions, all IDLife affiliates have to recruit someone new into the company.
That alone isn’t so bad (you need to recruit someone to kick off a unilevel team, but the $100 PV requirement was kind of obvious.
Obvious in the sense that it ties into the $100 a month “average” autoship order and is also the amount required for group volume qualification at the same level.
Thus an affiliate’s own autoship is likely to qualify them for commissions wholly at the Director level.
Of course an affiliate’s own purchase isn’t mandatory, but then “being a product of the product” comes into play. Making sales in any MLM company is much, much harder if the affiliate themselves isn’t using the product (“why should I buy anything from you if you yourself aren’t even using it?”).
Pegging Director (MLM commission) qualification at 100 PV encourages an autoship commitment to qualify for MLM commissions. And if this is what is happening within IDLife, at the expense of retail activity, then there’s potential pyramid scheme problems.
One way to ascertain whether or not this is the case would be to inquire with a potential upline as to how many retail customers they have (signed up to autoship or otherwise), versus how many recruited affiliates they have in their downline.
If the majority of their commissions are coming from recruited affiliates, their recruited affiliates, their recruited affiliates and so on, then that’s indicative of what you yourself are going to find yourself doing as an affiliate.
Also not helping is the $100 commission paid out on personally recruited affiliates who purchase a $399 Associate Package.
All in all I can look past the compensation plan issues as the opportunity for retail within IDLife very much exists (assuming of course that the products are priced competitively). The whole psuedo-pharmacy thing on the supplement front though left a bad taste in my mouth.
The way I see it, medical studies or not, once you start prescribing supplements for medical conditions, you alone are responsible if anything goes wrong.
I’m sure there are algorithmic checks within the ID Nutrition software to prevent this from happening, but user-error is just one example of something simple that could easily bring it all undone.
There are over 4,000 algorithms yielding 4,000,000 potential results that are tied to scientific/medical studies. The program takes your answers and relates it to the science in the studies to deliver the recommendations for each person.
The studies provide the basis and support for the recommendations given by the ID Nutrition assessment results.
Is an algorithm driven software a substitute for a doctor and/or nutritionist? That one’s up to you.
Update 25th July 2022 – Following Josh Paine’s appointment as CEO, BehindMLM revisited IDLife for an updated review.
Just to be clear, by “World Series”, Mr. Stout means “American Amateur Baseball Congress World Series”, not American “Major League Baseball World Series”.
No, I’ve never heard of AABC either. Apparently they hold 13 different “world series” every year, from 6-yr old all the way up to 19 and over. Mr. Stout is the coach for Dallas Patriots team.
I wonder if he’s pushing the stuff onto the parents whose kids he’d be coaching…
There’s a bit of long back-and-forth between some complainers (on RipOffReport) of Dallas Patriots on how Logan may have promised a few things that didn’t get delivered (apparently not all of it was his fault). There are reports that kids are paying up to $5000 to join the team?!
Didn’t see any listed wins since 2012. All recent news are about how former players (who went onto college) got drafted by major and minor leagues.
Dallas Patriots seem to run a dozen teams, apparently in all 13 divisions in the AABC. Stout’s baseball bio seems to be more of former amateur player now professional coach for amateur teams, who also run baseball camps, private lessons, and so on. And he’s apparently making money on them as they used to be 12u (12 yr olds) and up, but expanded in 2008 to as young as 6u.
There’s apparently quite a bit of local, state, and regional championships that the teams can go on. If he’s really making $5000 a head for one season (@ 15 players per team) it should be quite profitable, esp. if he also pushes IDLife alongside it to the parents and whatnot.
As someone who has no idea about US baseball, I read it as him having something to do with the major league.
The way its presented on the IDLife website makes it sound like pro baseball.
Troy Aikman is one of faces of this company. So sad that they just bought him. He is rich, but recent divorce probably made him go fishing for less respectable business opportunities.
Deceitfulness right from the get go with this one. I read it as he was a Pro ball player, but he is not even close!
Yes, he seems to be one of the worst new leaches on the scene. Making money on children for what supposed to be volunteering position and “motivational speaker” with strong religious position. No doubt he will start recruiting from his charges’ parents and churches.
Also, I noticed peculiar stuff on his executive team page. Since when customer service and warehouse workers became “executive team”?
Somebody wanted to beef up that page. But what missing from that page is who is responsible for formulating, testing and compliance of their product. It is so obvious that they ordered it from the shelf somewhere from China.
Hey, Joe Montana had to hawk that “Skechers” fit shoes a while back (busted by FTC as totally bogus fitness claims), and wasn’t John Elway mentioned as being taken by a scam a while back?
NOLINK://www.denverpost.com/ci_16323119
(For folks not familiar with American sports, these were all famous retired quarterbacks in professional American football, i,e. NFL)
I am “slightly familiar” with American professional baseball, and I never heard of this guy or his team, so I started Googling. 😉
Being a sports fan, baseball(and basketball)reference.com are phenomenal sources of info, here’s Logan Stout’s stats: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=stout-001log
(funny tidbit: His former team right now features 55 year old Julio Franco, who was a longtime 1B in the MLB.. some pro athletes never know when to hang it up 😀 )
He played “semi-pro” ball, so he told a half truth, that’s fine, he knows when he says that people can google him, he’s not preaching he pitched Game 7 of the World Series.
With that said, considering the murky area of paying $100 bonuses for associate signups isn’t that because FTC again refusing to put down black and white regulations on MLM? And isn’t the FTC not doing anything due to DSA lobbyists?
I’m not claiming to be an expert, but I recall reading that somewhere.
With that said, it would seem the outcome of the whole Herbalife fiasco should be beneficial for the industry as a whole, as it SHOULD force black & white, clear regulations to be put in place in an effort to reduce illegitimate schemes from occurring and people from being duped (although EDUCATION of the industry is a better preventative measure IMO)…until lobbyists come back.
OH America!
I used to live in Fort Worth TX and I never knew we had a minor league baseball team there. 😀
Haha yeah minor league games can be fun (one stadium I know has a game in the urinals!) But they do fly under the radar. Having said that, Aikman is the face, which is nice but obviously doesn’t give it much from there (For the record, John Elway went bankrupt on some of his deals).
Back on topic, I’m sure the idea is to replace a nutritionist, and though using medical diagnoses in their assessment, as long as they harp on their products not meant to cure or prevent disease and other CYA remarks, that’s usually enough to keep the FTC and FDA from breaking down the front door.
The concept in theory is intriguing as where this is what most nutrition and medicine should be heading ala personalized to the patient. Not sure how this will do.
Yeah, what they will do is relieve the symptom of having money in your bank account.
Amway has a special division pushing special nutritional supplements only available through your doctor’s office. So it’s nothing really special.
The main problem I have is the ethical implications… Is your doctor actually telling you to buy the stuff because it’s good for you… or is it because it’s profitable?
Just read a story the other day about this guy, totally healthy, went in for his annual “checkup”… Doctor ordered some tests, and he didn’t think twice. So he was totally shocked when he got the bill.
It was over THREE THOUSAND dollars, and insurance only paid like $12.00 because the doctor basically checked EVERYTHING on the checklist, most of which are completely unnecessary. That seem to have stepped over the ethical line.
While IDLife isn’t like that, it also brings up the question just how good is the recommendation via a simple web survey, vs. a real nutritionist?
Or is this just a gimmick like those “Dr. Scholls foot tester” you saw in some pharmacies that purports to sell you shoe inserts that are “customized” to your feet?
There’s a conflicting message here: it’s your body, that you shouldn’t skimp on, but the idea is to bypass the nutritionist and save money… Huh?
I am aware that the formulator of the ID Nutrition algorthim, Paul Sullivan, DOES encourage you to go to your doctor and get checked out and get your blood tested to see if you have any deficiencies i.e. Vitamin D3 so the message is “Screw the doctor, buy our stuff.”
But as a whole, nutrition is just a very gray area. I get the issue of how good is the survey, but I also like the idea of actual nutritionists formulating low or free costing surveys/tests to determine what an individual nutritional needs are.
Pertaining to your story K. Chang about the doctor, that’s the unfortunate nature of healthcare and terrible insurance companies in this country.
I wouldn’t rush to call the doctor an evil greedy jerkoff for checking everything, but it could be also a CYA move because if that guy leave the doctor with an “A-OK” sticker and comes to find out he actually has some issue that was NOT tested for, that can fall right back on the doctor for malpractice.
Not to excuse the doctor if he was doing all these tests for greed, but ultimately healthcare of an individual is that person’s own responsibility and a little research about what tests may be done and costs never hurt anyone.
Granted…annual checkups shouldn’t cost $3k..so in that case, something went astray.
Here’s the link about that 3000+ dollar “checkup”, in case anyone’s interested. 🙂
NOLINK://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/32293/
Healthcare is messed up nowadays..unfortunate sight for the ones passionate in the area who wanted to attend Medical or DO School.
Logan Stout is a complete fraud. He is in a know conman and has been sued countless times for running pyramid schemes.
ID Life is a joke. Logan convinces his band of bandits to push the Id Life crap on the vulnerable. No way that an online survey can result is a specific “medical” product.
How many formulas do you think the company actually has? Perhaps a few that get pushed regardless of your online answers.
I was recently told that the Maryland Attorney General is already investigating the company for running another Pyramid. Everyone should take the time to report the company to their state attorney general as they deal with trash like Logan.
Finally “A leader of one of the largest companies in the country”….really? What company is that? This is just another of Stout’s bogus claims.
This should be Stout’s last fraud.
Read this review with great interest as these products are being pushed in my area, and by a friend of mine. I immediately thought Amway, which I had a negative experience with in the late 1980s.
I hate to be pessimistic, but this sounds very iffy, and I am curious about the MD investigation (my state).
I think health and fitness and nutrition can be had with some common sense and work, not thru some marketing ploy. Sure, the stuff might taste good, but bananas and honey and goats milk do, too. Not sure I’m making a good point here, but . . . color me skeptical.
Happened upon this article, read your comments, took assessment anyway, brought to my physician & nutritionist each were extremely pleased with the program.
Would I buy them if not presented to me? I buy vitamins anyway, I’d rather buy something I know is not going to interfere with medications I already take.
Ever gone into a Health food store to buy your protein or vitamins? I have and it’s so confusing for the average person to find what they need. I think this company is on to something making it easier for consumer.
MLMs or NMs are what you make them. There are a ton of them out there and if I were going to choose one to go with, I’d go with my own research I’ve done and make my decision.
ID Life makes their own products, they do not come from China. I have researched this for over 8 months and I have seen real results in health and wellness in a lot of people.
Magic Pill, nah. Change of eating habits, exercise, support system, AND the right combo of nutrients and protein. Just like any program, it works if you make it work. I’m all for positive reinforcement as opposed to negative criticism to help others.
One of you mentioned Amway, ever try the products or were you to afraid you might like something? I used their products for years, loved them. My parents were in the business back when it was original owners. Company has changed drastically since it got out of the original owners hands. It’s a shame. But still pretty high up their in MLM.
Pyramid? Aren’t all companies a pyramid?
Seems like these posts are simply just bashing different companies not based on true facts and tested by authors of post.
Aikmen is only one of the many new partners in the group and they seem to keep adding more and more. From what I’ve researched, you can’t “buy” your way in. No one is a paid spokes person.
If it works for them, so what? Free Enterprise.
Love to hear if you ever follow up with research.
Perhaps, but when it comes to MLM we deal with pyramid schemes.
Pyramids are in Egypt and have nothing to do with MLM.
My major red-flag with IDLife was the reference of affiliate membership as an investment, which lead on the highly probably scenario of affiliates investing, going on autoship and then recruiting other who do the same.
No retail = a problem.
Any business is going to have an upfront cost and a goal of turning some kind of profit. Therefore, it would be feasible to call the upfront costs an “investment.”
Becoming an associate with ID Life gives you access to a healthy discount on retail product. You can make good money simply retailing product to others without ever signing up an associate.
If you are ambitious and interested in earning more money, you will need to sign up additional associates. This follows suit with any standard business in my opinion.
Opening up additional stores or locations means you are earning income off a higher volume of sales. The people at the top are paid for what they were able to start and cultivate as opposed to simply trading hours for dollars week after week or year after year.
I don’t see anything misleading in calling the up front cost an investment.
The SEC would like a word…
If management see IDLife affiliate membership as an investment, obviously they’re going to instill a culture of “recruit affiliates to get your ROI”. New recruits will then need to do the same.
MLM companies who focus on retail are obviously not going to describe their opportunity as an investment, as that’s clearly not what it is.
Sometimes I wonder at the aims of some of these comment threads. So the company is selling vitamins, so is GNC. If you want, you can open up your own GNC … just have about a half a million dollars to get started and promise them a certain percentage of your earnings every year …
But then that starts to sound like a pyramid too, should we send the Attorney General after them as well?
The fact of the matter is that the company is marketing vitamins and nutritional supplements, based on a survey that they purport examines your lifestyle, diet, medical conditions, and current medications, and makes recommendations designed to complement and not conflict with those things.
They claim that years of clinical research by pharmacists, doctors, biologists, and other relevant scientific and medical professionals has gone into creating the system that they use to generate their recommendations.
If you take those things at face value, then there’s nothing wrong with what they are doing. They want to sell you vitamins that they think fit your lifestyle … no one is twisting your arm and taking your credit card.
If you disbelieve that, and think this is all made up and that there’s no real science behind the survey, or that the pills are nothing more than colored powder … then I’d love to see what evidence you’re basing those conclusions on.
And if you’re questioning the legitimacy of the business opportunity, then I hope you have at least a basic understanding of network marketing principles to be able to come to an informed conclusion.
Otherwise, all you are doing is sharing with the world how skeptical a person you are of things you don’t understand or haven’t actually researched.
If it’s set up with an MLM compensation plan and appears to focus on affiliate recruitment over retail sales, sure.
You published an awful lot of waffle without addressing the recruitment commissions and autoship focus of IDLife.
I am a Idlife associate. I believe in the product and it has helped me and my health and many others.
You can not say you are not interested unless you try the products.
IDNutrition is the best customized or any vitamin program I have tried so far. Give it try.
The products are not under review here, the MLM business opportunity is.
The products are irrelevant if the compensation plan is rotten.
How many have you tried, and do you have any nutritional training to evaluate such?
As an IDLife Associate since its inception, I wanted to clarify a few things for this author:
“$399 Investment” – Of course it is an investment. You are investing in something that will hopefully bring you additional income.
To call this any type of “shame” [sic] is ridiculous. If people were not purchasing products and associates only relied on commissions for sponsoring someone, then yes, that would be a sham.
IDLife does not “prescribe” anything. They recommend based on the results of over 7,000 independent, clinical published studies. These studies are the gold standard for any and all nutritional recommendations.
Due to the medical literature showing scientific evidence that symptoms from certain ailments may be relieved is nothing more than restating the conclusions from these studies.
IDNutrition IS the name of the supplements supplied. The “IDNutrition Health Assessment” is the name given to the assessment … or for short, we often refer to it as the IDAssessment.
Of course this answer is NO since pharmaceutical-grade nutrition can be had by only a handful of companies which decide to offer them.
Walmart can sell all the low-quality supplements and obtain incredible profits at the same time. So, bottom-line, you can’t the quality of IDNutrition anywhere else.
As for only getting commissions once you reach DIRECTOR, this is not true. An INDEPENDENT ASSOCIATE earns 30% commission off of any retail customer as long as they are qualified, meaning they have met their $100 personal volume which is easily reached with their IDNutrition and/or other products they order.
My PV is usually $300 per month because I use all of the products not because I have to maintain that PV. I’m a product of the product.
The $100 commission paid to an associate for a new sponsor who purchased the $399 Associate Package is in direct line with the associate earning 30% off of product purchase ($300 of product included in signing up.)
As for an algorithm versus a doctor or nutritionist, doctors only obtain about 20 hours of nutritional training in their education. It is minimal. Most people will never be able to use a nutritionist in their entire life. What the algorithm allows is to get the supplements available based on the most recent scientific studies.
CONCLUSION
IDLife is what you make of it. They are exceptional products and have incredible personal testimonials which have told of health improvements in many areas. Not a medical claim by any reach, but if you give your body what it needs, it will react as such.
Personally, I have never felt this good in the last few years as I do now. I’ve done my research as a biologist and feel confident that this company will be life-changing for so many people and in so many ways.
(Ozedit: Recruitment spam removed.)
So uh, has IDLife registered with the SEC then?
Yeah no worries. And if I open a doctor’s practice, as a member of the general public I suppose I too can just “recommend (medicine) based on the results of over 7,000 independent, clinical published studies” and avoid getting a medical degree.
That’ll work.
If said commissions are derived from recruiting affiliates who purchase products, then you’re looking at a recruitment driven pyramid scheme.
Furthermore, you yourself confirm recruitment commissions are being paid out:
It doesn’t matter how you twist it. IDLife affiliates are paid to recruit new IDLife affiliates.
I also doubt there’s any retail activity going on… because
Riiiiiiight.
Totally nothing to do with qualifying for commissions. And I bet you’ve got a downline doing the same, with nobody selling anything to retail customers. At least not in any significant quantity.
So to recap, invest your funds in IDLife, get paid to recruit new affiliates and pay hundreds of dollars a month to qualify for commissions.
Thanks for your input.
Oz, I feel that many of these “defenders” are just parroting what their heard in their seminars.
I have seen people on my facebook friend list constantly pushing it. He will even have Q & A about how it’s legit and different.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I will link this page whenever someone feels uncertain about IDLife.
I am a user as well as my wife, the vitamins are of a great quality, we have had terrific results since starting them.
Most people buy in as an associate to get the 30% discount. I met Logan, researched him and I felt confident. I know a bunch of people on the nutrition as well and they also are seeing great results.
Bashing a company shows that you have nothing better to do but feel bad for yourself because you can’t come up with something better. Go educate yourself about network marketing.
Try the assessment and take the vitamins then make a review. Try pricing the vitamins apples to apples and you will see we beat box stores by 10 to 30%.
So why isn’t there a preferred customer option then? And how do you personally know what most people buy in for?
Oh, but you’re not interested in addressing that. Instead you trot the tired “waaah stop bashing my company!” and “you know nothing about MLM!” mantras.
You’re in an MLM company that pays people to recruit new affiliates, anything outside of that is rather irrelevant. Including feel good stories about IDLife’s products.
and how exactly do you know this that you can state it as fact?
why wouldn’t they just sell them in the regular market at that discount……or probably even less and still make money for the company?
IDNutrition ONLY contains pharmaceutical-grade ingredients and is all-natural and organic. All of IDLife’s ingredients for IDNutrition are made in a facility which has NSF International Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) registration.
To achieve NSF registrations, facilities must undergo a three-day audit to verify effectiveness at meeting specified criteria for cleanliness, sanitation, safety and efficiency. All lab work, testing and manufacturing processes must fall within federally regulated industry standards.
Once a company has been registered, it must undergo subsequent audits every six months. — Yes, we have proof of this.
Why wouldn’t we just sell them in the regular market at that discount? Ummm, it is network marketing… one of the best ways to market products vs. retail or direct sales.
My basic complaint about this site is you are bashing the industry of network marketing for no apparent reason. If people did not like the products, the entire method would fail.
IDLife offers the highest-grade products available on the marketplace and has incredible testimonials from folks using them.
So why is there no preferred customer option? Why are IDLife affiliates paid to recruit new affiliates?
Fails to address the above two key points, and therefore is an attempt to detract away from the actual issues surrounding ILife’s business model.
We’re not discussing “the industry of network marketing”, we’re discussing the particular company you’re involved in. Suck it up princess.
1] because MLM, network marketing, is a perfectly legal way of selling products. how a company sells it’s products is it’s choice, and not based on your personal dislike for MLM.
2] the people who join up to buy the products at a 30% discount, have been ‘sold to the idea’ by a distributor of an MLM. if the same product is put on a retail shelf, in a shop or mart, its retail cost will go up, due to the sales spend you have to do, to reach it to that shelf, and the costs of advertising the product, so that someone buys it.
3] having a preferred customer class, is not required by law, it would be nice, but it’s not necessary.
4] arthur says in post#35, that ‘Most people buy in as an associate to get the 30% discount.’ this better be the truth, because if people are joining not on the 99$plan, but the package plan of 399$, then IDlife is just another recruitment scam. when people join on the 99$ plan, are commissions paid to the recruiting affiliate? this is not clear.
I am sorry. “pharmaceutical-grade ingredients and is all-natural and organic”? You do not see 100% contradiction here?
There is a reason why science is never based on testimonials?
On independent reviews yes, but on testimonials of people who want to sell you product? No.
Do you completely trust, for example, testimonials of people in Walmart TV ads or celebrity ads knowing that those people got paid to sell this product/company? I bet no. Your case is no different.
Entire method failed all over again.
More than 70% of people in MLM never made enough money to cover their expenses not I not even mentioning their time. MLM sharks just find new suckers to cover churn-out.
Everybody got relatives/friends to recruit. So this MLM leech system is crawling around to make very few people rich. Not those that are hard workers or book-smart or kind/generous to others.
No, MLM always benefited fast talker/chest stumping/made promises you can not keep swindler types.
Eventually, you will figure out this.
You don’t have to become part of the business at $99 or $399. Either you buy from your “friend” as a retail customer for full price(but still considerably discounted compared to what you would have to pay in the store, IF it was available out there) and depending on what kind of distributor your “friend” went in as he/she will then receive 10 or 30% residual income for that one time purchase.
Or you can click that you want your order on Auto ship every month and save yourself 10% on all products ordered = preferred customer.
As for signing up new “recruits” and getting paid for doing it. Why shouldn’t you get paid for your efforts of helping someone into the business.
We Help/Share things, referrals and ideas with others daily and unless it’s part of your job description you don’t get paid, it’s just sharing. Like if your told your friend to watch a specific movie and they did. Who got paid? The theatre.
This is part of the job but it is not all we do as MLM participants. The responsibility that comes with sharing a business and especially the responsibility the corporate has is very Important and shouldn’t be taken lightly.
Corporate has many faces and they all know about the importance to support the “downline” and to create a culture that works for the legacy to be protected.
Just look at the BIG names out there, you clearly know about what companies to keep your eyes open for and of course come across them several times. How come they’ve done this good for so many years being considered a MLM company?
As for IDlife being a MLM company, we are in the starting pit about to do some great things for the world and we will lead by example in the supplement era.
I think it’s genious to have the IDAssessment available for Anyone and then you can bring it to your doctor who hopefully is educated enough to not just look and say “okay” but to do some extra research to see how authentic and individualized this really is and what the result is based on when it comes to documentation.
I also understand that it is easy to dump negative thoughts on something we don’t fully understand or got burnt from.
If Logan Stout has done something to you personally, Go talk to him instead of throwing bad things about him here. Right now he is Helping thousands and thousands of people around US.
If MLM has a bad taste in your mouth, then don’t ever listen to what your friends has to say and live in celibacy. We all get influenced by others and no matter what someone WILL get paid in one way or another.
Our choice is what we want to spend our money on and MLM is just another way to get an income on the side or the Only income someone can see themselves with. Dedication and consistancy!
(1) IDLife does have a preferred customer option which entitles retail customers to a 10% discount off of their entire order. Free shipping over $250 too!
(2) If you join as an associate at the current promotion of $199 or the $399, you get a lifetime 30% discount off of all products. In fact, if you join at $199, you even get a 40% one-time discount at the time you join as an associate. The $199 promotion is for a limited time. The $99 membership gives you a 10% lifetime discount until you reach a personal volume of $500 at which point your are a full associate with a 30% lifetime discount.
(3) “I am sorry. “pharmaceutical-grade ingredients and is all-natural and organic”? You do not see 100% contradiction here?” — Not sure what the contradiction is. There are no artificial ingredients. Raw ingredients are processed via an independent manufacturer located in Orlando, Florida.
All of IDLife’s ingredients for IDNutrition are made in a facility which has NSF International Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) registration.
To achieve NSF registrations, facilities must undergo a three-day audit to verify effectiveness at meeting specified criteria for cleanliness, sanitation, safety and efficiency.
All lab work, testing and manufacturing processes must fall within federally regulated industry standards. Once a company has been registered, it must undergo subsequent audits every six months.
All ingredients are pharmaceutical-grade, pure, natural and come from organic sources. We have the highest-quality nutrition available in the marketplace. Our products are formulated in in GMP-certified, FDA approved facilities, tested 3x (raw when they get to facility and quarantined.
When they are approved they are mixed and tested and when they are done, they are tested again).
(4) My primary income from IDLife is NOT from sponsoring others. I only get $100 if someone joins at $399. I earn nothing from them joining my team but on the volume of product they received ($500 worth of product at $399).
I earn $30 from someone joining at $199… again, on the product they purchase and not on my sponsoring them. So, if you want to talk numbers, I earn on my commissions of retail (30%) and downline individuals who purchase product. If nobody purchases product, I make zilch.
The great thing is that people love the products and continue to buy each month with absolutely no obligation to purchase anything further.
(5) NOBODY should join IDLife if they are looking for a get-rich-quick thing. It is long-term but grows very quickly. Sure, there are folks making a good amount of money already and the nice thing is that they are right by my side helping me to grow and share my business.
I can use my current monthly growth to predict that within 3-5 years I will be able to replace my teaching salary. Is it easy to do this business? No. Is it simple? Yes.
Truly, I have never found a more selfless business model than the one I am doing. The business is not for everyone and that is why I have retail customers which love getting 10% off their orders.
If I wanted to stop my business tomorrow, I could. I have no inventory requirements with everything being web-based including my back office.
Seriously, you can keep digging all you want but you will not find fault in our products, leadership, nor compensation plan. There is no better comp plan in the industry.
Like snake venom and arsenic, you mean ???
@Hallon
Pay to play = bad. How much an affiliate themselves spends should never dictate their income potential in an MLM compensation plan.
Because operating, promoting and participating in a pyramid scheme is illegal in the US.
When you build your entire MLM compensation plan around recruitment, those at the bottom are guaranteed to lose out.
@Jim
So why are IDLife affiliates attempting to explain affiliate recruitment away by claiming said affiliates are only signing up for a discount?
You yourself did that in comment #39.
First of all, the fact that you make anything on recruitment is a red flag.
Secondly, however you dress it up – you are paid when a new affiliate is recruited and spends hundreds of dollars as part of their signup process. That’s still just a defacto recruitment commission.
An affiliate joins IDLife and you get paid.
Why aren’t preferred customers given this discount? Why do affiliates have to pay hundreds of dollars to receive a discount?
Incentivizes affiliate recruitment with product discounts only serves to discourage retail activity. Why on Earth would an MLM company want to do that?
Why dig when you and I both know there is absolutely no justification for recruitment commissions in an MLM business model?
The only person digging here is yourself… into an ever-deepening hole you can’t crawl out of.
you should really look up the history of Paul Sullivan in California prior to IDlife.
Same concept with a different name. All he needed was to find evangelist type Logan.
this guy is shady from top to bottom. but he loves to tout his wife’s new cars, watches, borrowed yachts to talk up a big dream.
any CEO of a successful company would not flaunt his possessions that he has earned from the suckers that have drank the kool-aid.
anyone with common knowledge of nutrition just needs to change the behavior of what you eat and you’ll see results.
think people really? Why do you think this industry is non-regulated? Suckers like IDLife can be profitable by passing out the kool-aid.
maybe at the next revolution Logan should bring out his credentials who so called “professional baseball career”. classic.
Go back to little league and finish your career there Logan.
I took IDLife vitamins for 90 days and felt no different. The grandiose claims of ‘increased energy, increased clarity, sleeping better, better bowel movements (just to name few) were lost on me.
I really didn’t feel any better than when I took a daily vitamin and probiotic. In my opinion, not worth the $100+ per month.
I also, tried the protein shakes, energy drink, hunger chews and sleep tabs. The hunger chews and sleep tabs were a joke. Again, no effect on me.
The protein shakes and energy drink I liked but way too pricey! Their protein is $100 per canister and the energy drink is $65 per canister.
I would buy them again if they weren’t so expensive. I think I will stick with Idealshake.
The “increased clarity” seems to have worked. 🙂
Hahaha!! Too bad it took 90 days and a nice chunk of $$$
All that money has blinded you, man! 😉
If you actually take the assessment because it’s free and HIPAA compliant means its confidential you can take 10 minutes and take it’s based on over 7,000 double-blind.
Viewed medical journals and when you get to the recommendation page and click on the Y button it gives you the research and cites the evidence, where you can cut and paste in Google as I have done with doctors stop bashing something before you know about it.
Costco and Sam’s Club has a membership fee to start… except you have to pay every year… must be a pyramid scheme.
Another total dumbass who can’t tell the difference between Costco et al. and MLM?
Check.
Well, you DO need these types of idiots to make the company work right?
I still can’t believe Gotts2go just compared it with Costco, LMAO. MLMs will never go away, with idiots like them… sadly.
What i noticed about him at a meeting about a year ago that gave me reservations was his unreal phony up demeanor as if he was on crack or some emotional high or something.
Its likely nothing like drugs but its just that unreal feeling like no one is that happy that gave me caution. How real can it be that someone is just dying to help me become a millionaire?
Also, years ago i got into a couple of marketing schemes and this had similar issues like the pyramid type compensation. I tried the products and got into the monthly payment plan for about 6 months and then got out.
The products are okay and about the same quality i can get for about 1/4 to 1/3 the price off grocery or health food store shelves. I just didn’t have the time with my job to even begin pursuing getting other recruits.
This article was awesome! Not sure how you have the time though.
I get through it Mike :).
Glad you found the information useful.
My SIL recently attempted a Jim Jones ‘drink the ID kool aid’ type of pitch on me.
Disturbing how persistent she was–like she had been brain-washed. I hope she wakes up from her stupor soon!
I am not in the company but the assessment tool is awesome and I will try the products.
I really don’t understand why some of these people have a problem with free enterprise.
If I like the way I feel after using the products for a while. Then I will be glad to tell everybody to get a free assessment and I can make 30% when they order their product. That just makes sense to me.
You sound awfully informed of IDLife’s business model for someone “not in the company”.
Astroturf support ahoy!
As a certified fitness professional, clients are always asking for recommendations of nutritional supplements.
It’s the job of the fitness pro to take assessments based on lifestyle, eating habits, etc. in order to make those recommendations. ID Life’s fitness assessment does the same thing.
Did you know that in the insurance and real estate industries, general agents get overrides on all the sales of the agents in their office?
The bigger the sales force of agents, the bigger the overrides. And financial reps who sell mutual funds get residual overrides based on the type of mutual funds they sell. Yes, they do.
By the way, I’m not in the company or any MLM for that matter, although I do have friends in the industry.
ID Life is not a publicly traded company so they don’t need to be registered with the SEC.
Most people who start ANY business… online, MLM, brick & mortar will fail if they don’t have the proper training.
I know of a local bakery right now who is up to her eyeballs in debt even after owning the bakery for the past 10 years. Most recently, she bounced two employee payroll checks.
Haters are going to hate. Such a waste of time.
That’s nice. Did you know that in MLM you need retail sales?
Furthermore, recruitment commissions = pyramid scheme.
Lol.
Thanks so much for this article. Last night I was aggressively pressured by a friend that just joined IDLife to do an assessment.
I couldn’t understand what the big rush was for me to immediately do it; they called a few times but I was too busy to stop what I was doing at the time.
I finally got around to checking it out, but with interruptions I didn’t finish it until around 11:30 pm.
I immediately got a call asking what I thought, and if I was interested in purchasing $100 worth of vitamins. *falls to the floor laughing*
Of course, I declined, but my curious nature lead to my search, leading me to this site.
Going by the information above, they would have earned an additional bonus by signing up someone in their first 30 days with the company. Apparently I would have been the key to their receiving said bonus.
They even mused about “treating” me to said vitamin supplements, but I vehemently declined.
I feel bad for them…
Given that most people are going to GNC to have some 22 year old behind the counter working part-time make suggestions for them, I’m surprised at the comments here.
That person knows nothing about your health history, your medications, your family history. The assessment bounces your information (provided by you in a HIPAA compliant environment) against a database of more than 18 years of third-party double blind clinical research.
For those of you who can’t understand what that means – it means research done by serious researchers who have nothing to do with IDLife and who have their research verified by others who do not have an interest in the results.
This seems like it was posted by someone who had an axe to grind – like maybe their kid was lousy at baseball or maybe someone who had a problem with IDLife because they lost some business to a company that has a real solution for people. Just my two cents.
because you are wrong.
The products do work so does nutrition. just try the products stop being negative.
Where I find the data analysis to back up the research for these products? and if so, do they include the peer review to back up the studies for their findings?
I am hesitant in adding a comment here and I have a few questions that I could not find an answer to in my reading of this post.
Correct me if I am wrong and I am wrong on occasion. Does anyone reading these comments even have a clue on how to evaluate a business opportunity and/or a nutritional company?
For the masses, here are a few questions to ask before you get involved.
1. Who is the founder?
2. Are the products or service consumable or renewable?
3. If its a nutritional company, who specifically manufactures the products? (company names and address)
4. is it publicly traded and what is the companys’ debt ratio?
5. same questions for a non-nutritional company.
Have a nice day.
Having been an employee and part of the executive marketing team at IDlife, I am honestly shocked at some of the comments here in this forum.
The IDNutrition Assessment is meant to more closely define the nutrients and vitamins that your body needs on a daily basis. By visiting a pharmacy and purchasing a multivitamin, you are getting some of what your body needs, and a lot of what your body might not require.
Dietary nutrition varies from one individual to another, and taking a “blanket” nutritional supplement that does not address your unique health needs, is a bandage approach.
For quality supplementation, lifestyle, prescription medications (which can lower enzymes and nutrient absorption) must be considered. People who take a “one size fits all” vitamin may be doing more damage to their body than good.
As a Diabetic, I found that the recommendations made by the IDLife Assessment mirrored what I had been told by my endocrinologist and a nutritionist in Canada.
Having problems organizing my daily supplements, I found that the method (packets) of IDNutrition fit really well with my busy lifestyle; I was taking all of my vitamins and that had a huge impact on my energy, mood and overall health and well being.
Having worked side-by-side with Logan Stout, I can honestly say that he is an enigmatic leader who is committed to helping people achieve their goals. Whether the goal is better health, weight loss or the enhancement of professional development skills such as sales and networking, I haven’t met another executive so passionate about helping other people.
He’s driven, caring and quite frankly inspiring in virtually every domain. In the heart of Logan Stout is a desire to coach and see others succeed, which is a rare quality in the C-Suite frankly.
I am new to the culture of network marketing. What I found at IDLife was leadership and mentoring that impacted the lives of tens of thousands of people.
The products are excellent (particularly for diabetics looking for low-carb meal replacement supplements), and their Hydrate product is my favorite.
Please don’t assume nefarious intentions when someone successfully builds an effective sales distribution network. Knowing the executive team as well as I do, they are committed, intuitive professionals who work hard to create income and lifestyle opportunities for their Associates.
They also foster a supportive and creative collaborative employee team environment.
I will continue to be a fan and brand advocate.
So is the idea of taking a websurvey for the “unique health needs”. It’s about as scientific is a drugstore machine selling you “custom shoe inserts”.
Lori sounds like she drank logan’s kool-aid.
Funny Lori I have spent time with Logan myself and I found him to be a unique study. His experience and background don’t even come close to being a certified expert in the field.
He took a job of Sullivan’s failed attempts in california under different names and became the poster child of the product.
PRO Athlete – NOT jr college does not make him a professional athlete, Certified Nutritionist – Not even close – Evangelist – YES.
I have seen slicks like Logan plenty of times. His circle cycles often because people get tired of the same pony show.
I personally know of a rep that is TOP 100 and this person only has two people under them. Wow the #’s must be really silly if this person is really top 100 of a company like this.
So let’s make sure anyone that is interested really does their homework.
Whether for or against IDLife, I’ve seen comments on these threads that express opinions that are paraded as evidence.
If you all are going to say you’ve researched it or make a claim, cite your research! Otherwise, what’s the point of posting?
ID Life products are awesome and well worth the money.
I’ve been trying to lose weight for years with no results….. the 28 day challenge designed by Jenn Widerstrom really worked for me and gave me my life back!
“steve” really steve… 28 day challenge gave you your life back? wow. some life.
28 days is all it took to get your life back. hmmm.. i smell something fishy.. and it isn’t tuna… it’s slime ball stout.
All I can relay is my story. I’ve now lost 20 lbs and feeling better and better each day.
No more prescription drugs for better sleep; no more arthritic pain in the mornings; more energy than I’ve ever had in years.
Jenn Wiederstrom, Pudge Rodrigues, Troy Aikman all credible investors and have become involved because of 1 thing – truly revolutionary company.
and yet here you are pushing that very thing.
Whip, I am not “pushing” anything. I am not an Associate for IDLife, but did work in pharmacy regulation for more than eight years.
I think my perspective, given the fact that I was part of the marketing team and had the privilege to work closely with IDLife’s executive team, is valid.
If you think that everyone should take the same kind of vitamins every day, I suggest you do your research, and speak to your family physician. You’ll be surprised what you learn about how harmful that blanket approach is, particularly if you do not need a specific type of vitamin (which is included in a generic multivitamin).
For as much as nutritional supplements benefit health and wellness, taking too much of the wrong supplement is dangerous. And I believe that’s exactly what happens with OTC (over the counter) multivitamins.
I think IDNutrition is years ahead of it’s time, and a unique and innovative product. That sentiment was also shared by both my physicians, when we reviewed my personal supplement recommendation from IDLife.
I think that unfounded and personal statements about Logan Stout are unprofessional, and typical of the kind of “trolling” you see for any successful public figure.
It’s a business opportunity for people who are passionate about health and wellness. Like any small business affiliate opportunity, the factor that determines income is effort.
IDLife is also a collection of high-quality nutritional products, and a supportive, enthusiastic and positive wellness community for people who are ready to take charge of their health.
on june 10th, 2016, logan stout posted on facebook:
since the middle of last year, logan stout and IDlife affiliates have been claiming that the american heart association is in ‘partnership’ or has ‘endorsed’ IDlife.
turns out that IDlife was one of the ‘sponsors’ of the ‘collin county heart ball’, which was held by the dallas division of the american heart association in june 2015.
one of the other sponsors of this ^^ event, was ‘granite properties’ a local real estate firm, and i bet it doesn’t go around claiming it has ‘partnered’ or is ‘endorsed’ by the american heart association.
on it’s website, the american heart association [AHA] has a list of it’s national supporters and sponsors. IDlife being a ‘local’ sponsor does not even make it to this list.
moreover the AHA webpage which lists its national supporters/sponsors says:
since lori reese claims to have worked closely with the executive team at IDlife, maybe she can explain exactly how IDlife has a ‘partnership’ with the AHA.
only shady MLM’s ‘construct’ false associations with well known entities to establish their ‘legitimacy’.
that IDlife misrepresents its ‘sponsorship’ of a local event of the AHA as a ‘partnership’ and ‘endorsement’ is a huge red flag.