BidForMyMeds Review: Unauthorized use of BidRx?
The BidForMyMeds website doesn’t actually contain any information on the company itself.
Where the owner information for BidForMyMeds should be, the company displays information about BidsRX, naming Ralph Kalies as Founder and CEO of BidsRx. Given that the page is titled “About Us”, this is extremely misleading.
As far as I can tell, BidsRx and BidForMyMeds have nothing to do with eachother.
The BidsForMyMeds website does mention that they are “powered by BidRx”, but business wise there’s doesn’t seem to be any connection. Certainly not any that would justify putting BidRx’s executive staff on the BidForMyMeds “About” page.
Meanwhile the BidForMyMeds website domain (“bidformymeds.com”) was registered on the 21st of October 2013, with the registration naming a “Craig Berens” as the owner.
I wasn’t able to find any additional MLM history on Berens, indicating that BidForMyMeds is his first MLM venture. Berens name also does not appear anywhere on the BidsRx website.
The BidForMyMeds website domain uses a Michigan based address, which appears to be where the company is based out of. The BidForMyMeds Terms and Conditions state
Michigan law will govern and enforce this Agreement. Any litigation or arbitration arising out of the use of this website will take place in any state court located within Kent County.
Read on for a full review of the BidForMyMeds MLM business opportunity.
The BidForMyMeds Product Line
BidForMyMeds has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market membership to the BidForMyMeds website itself.
BidForMyMeds website membership costs either $7 a month for access to BidsRx or $17 month as an affiliate.
What exactly $7 a month “customers” receive over basic BidRx membership (free) is unclear.
The BidForMyMeds Compensation Plan
The BidForMyMeds compensation plan pays $17 a month affiliates to recruit new members.
Commissions are paid down six levels of recruitment. For every $17 member an affiliate recruits, they are paid $1 a month. For every $7 member, they are paid 50 cents a month.
If a BidForMyMeds affiliate recruits 10 or more $17 members (affiliates), they qualify for Matching Bonuses.
BidForMyMeds Matching Bonuses are paid out down six levels of recruitment, according to how many $17 affiliate members have been recruited:
- recruit ten or more affiliates – 100% match on level 1, 50% on level 2 and 25% on level 3
- recruit 15 or more affiliates – 100% on level 1, 50% on level 2, 25% on level 3 and 15% on level 4
- recruit 20 or more affiliates – 100% on level 1, 50% on level 2, 25% on level 3, 15% on level 4 and 10% on level 5
Joining BidForMyMeds
Affiliate membership to BidForMyMeds is $17 a month.
Conclusion
I’m going to have to flag BidForMyMeds for gross misrepresentation that, in my opinion, borders on outright fraud.
The company repeatedly uses the words “we” to describe relationships with pharmacies and other prescription related entities, when clearly these are BidRx’s properties. Here’s an example, taken from BidForMyMed’s “Competition” page:
We are a Pharmaceutical Service aligned with Registered US Pharmacies, Manufacturers, and mail order companies.
Additionally BidForMyMeds displaying the corporate ownership of BidRx on their “About Us” page and claiming to have been “seen on TV” are inexcusable.
Then there’s the charging for access to BidRx. For those not familiar with BidRx,
BidRx provides a free, electronic marketplace for instantly obtaining information and competition on drugs, services, incentives, coupons, discounts, and prices from pharmaceutical manufacturers – and getting competitive bids on prescriptions and services from pharmacies.
In a nutshell you sign up for free and can then access drug information and place your prescription online for pharmacies BidRx are affiliated with to bid on. You pick a company to supply you and you get your meds.
This has nothing to do with BidForMyMeds!
BidForMyMeds simply charge $7 to $17 for access to something that is free. The latter $17 affiliate membership fee entitles the BidForMyMeds member to recruit new paid BidForMyMeds members and get paid for them.
Commissions in BidForMyMeds have absolutely nothing to do with BidRx!
All BidForMyMeds $17 affiliates are getting paid to do is recruit. You could replace access to BidRx with anything and functionally, BidForMyMeds would be the same.
Recruit new affiliates and $7 people who want to pay for access to something that is free, and get paid.
Coupled with no retailable products or services of their own, this makes BidForMyMeds a text-book example of a pyramid scheme. Once the recruitment and membership fees stop getting paid, commissions dry and the business will implode.
If you’re not interested in recruitment scams and want to access BidRx, skip BidForMyMeds and just sign up over at “bidrx.com” for free.
So, this MLM company has put the founder and vice president of Bidrx on their “about us” page?
I have seen the CBS news report on this and I have seen the NBC news report and the Clark Howard Show.
It appears that you research is lacking. If this is not TV please explain yourself. Or you could change your name to Dooley.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/7-easy-ways-to-cut-costs-on-everyday-needs
I do believe is a televise program also:
So I assume you really are one sided, such a shame. You guys couldn’t make in the industry, so you make statements that are untrue and without doing your in depth research.
Oh, well the OZ’s and Dooley’s of the world have to exist so the rest of us can have a good laugh.
This is going to die like Burnlounge… virtually same organization… two-tier membership, supposedly legitimate product… But sells and pays on membership sales, not products.
@JR Thompson
Was BidForMyMeds explicitly mentioned in said televised broadcasts? If not, you’re being deceptive.
BidForMyMeds is not mentioned anywhere in those CBS or NBC News reports you provided. Again, deceptive marketing.
I mean cmon, that NBC report is dated 2011 – BidForMyMeds didn’t even exist then.
Is the entire marketing campaign of BidForMyMeds affiliates based nothing more on deception and riding the coattails of BidRx?
You guys are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for MLM marketing strategies.
A couple of things that I think need to be clarified:
1- BidForMyMeds is a newly contracted Tareqs selling company that has an exclusive agreement with BidRx.
2- In Rx is not a free service just like many companies may give a 14 day or 30 day trial, companies allow people to sign up for free for. of time before they start charging them money. So it saying you can sign up for free at one point which actually will be changing based on the new that is no place.
Think about it where would the Rx make their money if you were totally free if you do your research you’ll see that their business model is working through large groups, and employee benefit package type deals.
They were paid through these large groups on a monthly basis through its members. Through the entity of a BidForMymeds it now opens up through direct selling and relationship marketing where people can individually benefit from this group benefit package.
3- It is illegal to pay on memberships but it is perfectly legal to pay on subscriptions. BidForMyMeds is offering a subscription not a membership.
4- I do agree that BidForMyMeds should at their corporate officers to the about us section and they can leave the BidRx information just the distinctive and explaining that these are the principal people behind the main or parent company which is BidRx.
5- This is a viable opportunity that has to simply tweak a few things but nonetheless a strong contender and being a great deal in our MLM industry.
So let’s not make a promising opportunity for I’m sure he seem like a scam there are a lot of scams out there and I promise you as you do your research you’ll see this maintenance is nothing like that at all.
I think BehindMLM is a great service and reference generally for the industry and I think the people behind BehindMLM for what they do or at least the heart behind what they do.
I know you guys love the industry and mean well trying to contact the people behind it for my meds and get some more facts before you guys going to further to all of you continued success and a super prosperous new year all my post.
@Lionel
I tried looking up “tareqs selling company” and turned up nothing, what exactly does that mean?
More importantly, is there a corporate relationship between BidRx and BidForMyMeds? As far as I can tell there isn’t.
I’m looking into the paid membership of BidRx, I’ll update the review later today.
That’s easy, from the companies bidding on prescriptions.
So what’s the difference between BidForMyMeds $7 and $17 “subscriptions”? As far as I can see, participants pay $10 more for the sole purpose of qualifying to receive commissions on the recruitment of new members.
Nothing is being bought or sold at a retail level. Selling membership to third-party discounts is not a viable MLM product, yet that’s exactly what BidForMyMeds do.
(Ozedit: please repost with capslock off, I already had to remove allcaps from your first comment)
sorry for the all caps
You’re welcome to repost the corrections and I’ll copy and paste them into your original comments, sans caps please.
Also note that I’ve already responded to your initial comment so you might want to address that too.
The difference between a $7 subscription and a $17 reseller is one can without being in a group but as a regular single person get the benefits through “bid for my meds” platform.
The $17 the seller not only gets the subscription has the ability to not get compensated for sharing that subscription.
Here’s a powerful feature that I think next is pretty Atty. Gen. friendly.
Did you know that you can sign up as a $17 reseller and simply sponsor no resellers but through maybe a non-profit entity or large Dr. Group Or by having a great online marketing system marketing to the public and sign-up $7 subscribers the company will pay you 50cent per subscriber.
How you keep on saying that the subscription that did RX is offering is not a viable product that’s the case I got to differ.
Would you call prepaid legal which is now I believe legal shield a nonviable product??
Did you call Ameriplan that went on for many years and produced many millionaires a non-viable product.
Product’s are not only pills shampoos and lotions….
Bid Rx ….if you do your research has saved over $3 billion through 2 million prescriptions.
Bid for your meds is a genius platform for regular people like you and I to tap into this 400+ billion-dollar pharmaceutical industry
Lionel, are you sure about this? I see on the BidRx website where they say they are free for consumers and this is repeated in some of their press coverage. I’ve been looking but I see no mention of any fees or “subscriptions” required.
It looks like the only one asking for up front money are the scammy little soon to be sued out of existence pyramid scheme which again, is not affiliated with BidRx.
I had a deeper look into BidRx’s fee structure, it appears members are charged when they purchase meds – and they are charged at the pharmacy level. BidRx themselves don’t charge a membership fee, monthly or otherwise – fees are added to the prescription cost, but only if meds are purchased.
As far as I can tell there is no monthly recurring subscription fee associated with BidRx membership. This is not the same as BidForMyMeds monthly membership fees.
One question I’d like answered is whether or not the payment of BidForMyMeds membership means BidRx will not charge members when they purchase meds.
If not, then the two fees having nothing to do with eachother and at the $7 level people are then just paying BidForMyMeds for something that is free. At the $17 level, BidForMyMeds affiliates are paying extra solely to qualify to receive commissions on the recruitment of others.
@Lionel
And who is going to pay $7 a month for something that is free?
Because offering discounts to third-party products is not a viable product in MLM. You need to actually have products and/or services of your own and you need to be selling said products and/or services to retail customers.
BidForMyMeds not only have no products or services of their own to retail, they are selling discounts to third-party products twice removed.
BidRx is not an MLM company. I have no problem with their business model.
Legal Shield and Ameriplan have nothing to do with BidForMyMeds, discussion about them here is offtopic.
Exactly… You pay $10 more every month… So you can get paid if you find people to pay to join as your downline…
And you don’t see potential pyramid scheme here? Should I quote the Koscot test again? Or are you going to look it up yourself?
Directed at “K.CHANG that is incorrect you pay $10 extra so that you have the ability to get compensated even if you just get a subscriber the company will pay you $.50 for every subscriber you get for seven dollars senescence you don’t have to recruit a downline.
you lose can go to a nonprofit church one large organization and just sell the subscription for seven dollars and you can turn a monthly residual income so that is pure product.
I repeat you do not have to recruit a downline to make money you can get the product out there as a subscription and market subscription only get paid
I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL BID RX REMOVES THIS WHOLE FREAKING FREE THING OR CLARIFIES IT AND SHUT ALL OF YOU DOWN WITH THIS “IT’S FREE SO WHY WOULD ANY ONE WANT TO PAY TO $7 OR $17 ….
ALL I CAN SAY STAY TUNED GUYS STAY TUNED… (AND YES I MEANT TO USE ALL CAPS THIS TIME BECAUSE I AM IRRITATED)
Interesting, since I wrote:
and you wrote:
Sounds like you repeated what I wrote back to me and told me I am wrong.
Try again.
I am confused. Are you irritated because the company is undercutting your own argument? Or are you irritated because you can’t accept that your position makes no sense?
From BidRx’s Terms of Service:
bidrx.com/about_us/terms_of_use.html
I have however seen one other BidRx “independent sales Rep” charging a subscription fee but it’s completely unnecessary to pay for access to the BidRx service. If you do not have an employer issued BidRx membership card a US resident will need to enter a referral code when they register their free account.
From BidRx’s Faq:
bidrx.com/about_us/faq.html
I assume BidforMyMeds are, for the moment at least, able to provide referral codes to join BidRx but it is possible they just found a code to use on Google (like I did). If any formal relationship exists between BidRx and BidforMyMeds it wont last long.
Again from BidRx’s TOS:
Lionel- Is BidForMyMeds owned by BidRX and/or is Ralph Kalies part of BidForMyMeds in addition to being the Founder/CEO of BidRX?
I emailed BidRX and asked if there was a connection. When (if) I get a reply, I’ll post it.
@Lionel
Yeah… and you also get $1 for every affiliate you recruit. Sorry what was your point again?
“Do not have to” does not negate a pyramid scheme business model. I join BidForMyMeds, pay my $17 and then earn recruitment commissions based on how many other $17 affiliates I recruit.
Nothing is bought and sold at a retail level and it’s a pyramid scheme any way you cut it.
This is for the person who wrote the review on BidForMyMeds for Behind MLM. You recommend signing up for BidRX for free if you want to get the same benefits being paid for through BidForMyMeds.
My question is did you trying signing up for free with BidRX before you gave that recommendation? I’ve tried and so far it ain’t happening. In order to sign up with BidRX, you must have a referral code.
If you can sign up for free, why is a referral code necessary? How do you get a referral code? I written BidRX for a referral code and to date I’ve received no response. If it’s free, it shouldn’t be this hard to sign up. Are you sure about your claims????
The claims were sourced directly from BidRx’s website.
I punched “bidrx referral code” into Google and within 30 seconds was able to access the sign-up page of BidRx. The five steps for BidRx account registration are:
The first step doesn’t require billing details, nor is there any indication any of the five steps require a new member to enter any in.
There is no mention of either a $7 or $17 monthly fee anywhere on the BidRx signup page, Terms and Conditions or Privacy Policy.
Information that they should link to on the registration page, but don’t.
https://www.bidrx.com/about_us/faq.html#6
For what it’s worth…
BidRx.com does not meet LegitScript internet pharmacy verification standards:
http://www.legitscript.com/pharmacy/bidrx.com
When the f*** were these instructions written? REQUIRES Cookies? Has instructions for IE6, Firefox 1.X, and Netscape Communicator? That’s like Y2K! (IE6 was released in 2001)
I registered and didn’t mention anything about trial period free or charging money.
This is starting to smell like TVI Express, who charged money for Travelocity (which is free).
Got a reply back from BidRx:
So BidForMyMeds is indeed an independent company. Which means putting up BidRx’s information on their site is nothing short of deceptive.
And membership to BidRx is indeed free.
FWIW, RxReadyNow’s CEO is now a part of BidRX.
Which make them the RX equivalent of TVI Express (who relabelled Travelocity and charged people $250 to join a pyramid scheme for access to Travelocity, which is free)
Oz, maybe you can change the title to “(un)authorized (ab)use of BidRX name”? 😀
I dunno about abuse, but BidForMyMeds are very quick to send out legal threats.
Not so fast when it comes to answering followup queries though – https://behindmlm.com/companies/bidformymeds-threaten-legal-action-over-review/
(Ozedit: Bitcoin discussion is offtopic, I think you were responding to the wrong article)
Yes and no.
From how I understand this to work, if someone goes directly through BidRx, they don’t pay a fee to get into the site and place a bid but do pay extra on the back end. If someone goes through one of the marketing sites (the three listed above), they pay a monthly fee upfront but not as much on the back end.
In this case, it all depends on whether or not which choice saves you the most money – though that isn’t made clear on any of the sites. I.E. a person with one or two meds that an occasional prescription may save more going directly into BidRx and just paying the back end fee but a person with multiple or monthly prescriptions may pay less in the long run by joining one of the marketing sites and doing the monthly fee thing.
Once again, until I got the email from BidRx, this wasn’t made clear.
The other two sites charge $7 or $8 monthly. They both, unlike Bidformymeds, state that the sites are powered by BidRX, and the RxReady site does address the question about there being two sites and why.
Both sites also give contact info (phone, mailing address) to their actual company whereas BidForMyMeds only has an email address (the only phone number is to BidRX for prescription address). BidForMyMeds is also the only one offering a business opportunity.
Looking at the three marketing sites, it really appears that the people behind BidForMyMeds saw a low cost item that they could slap an mlm plan onto and threw a site together without thinking it through.
BidForMyMeds could take the position that, since other sites are also selling memberships, they have a viable product attached to their plan. The difference is that someone paying membership to one of the other sites would only do so if they were actually buying meds and wanting the discount.
People could sign up for BidForMyMeds opportunity without buying a single prescription. In that sense, it is basically a pyramid scheme.
and as such, membership is fee. Being charged extra on prescription purchases != membership fees.
You can’t claim a monthly fee and no fee are the same. Nor is a time limited trial membership through BidForMyMeds the same as free unrestricted access to BidRx, as offered by BidRx.
In the case of BidForMyMeds, what is the difference between $7 and $17?
If “qualifying for commissions” is the answer, then we have a problem (pay to play and recruitment commissions).
The other two sites are selling BidRX membership, not membership into themselves.
If they ONLY sell BidRX membership, there would be no problem. The problem is they tacked on that “if you want to make money, pay $17 instead of $7”. That makes it same as Burnlounge: a “free” membership level… and a “mogul” membership level if you pay $7 more per month where you make cash through selling memberships (and music).
If they do MLM, they need MLM attorney. What they’ve created does NOT pass MLM inspection, even from us amateurs. Professionals will tell them how to fix it… for a price.
They should have checked with a MLM attorney to see if what we say are true… Instead of some “reputation” junior attorney.
I applied for a free membership with BidRx and received a referral code from their customer support department within one hour. I have full access to the BidRx site for free.
Cher, if you have full access to “use” the bidrx system then try to do it! You only have access to do a “mock bid” to see if the savings you would be getting would out weigh the cost of the bidrx membership fee.
I can not believe the stuff people have posted on here and stated as if it were a FACT! So much of this is just simply not true.
I’m sure most of us that are familiar with the internet know that just because you read it “here” does NOT make it TRUE!! Do your research before believing ANYTHING written on here.
@Danette
Guess you missed the part where BidRx confirmed they have free membership, with a fee attached to the purchase of a prescription at a pharmacy. That’s what happens when you don’t read.
Which is why you listed some examples and their corrections… oh, wait.
I agree, and seeing as this review was based on BidForMyMeds’ own compensation plan, when you’re done you’re welcome to return and confirm everything.
And it would probably cost only $6 a month… Instead of $7 or $17 BidForMyMeds is charging.
Oh, wait, this guy is letting you sign up for BidRX for only $2.50 a month!
fdlac.com/products-services.html
(now tell me, who’s going to pay $7 or $17?)
Are you going to change the title of this post Oz?
Personally listened to a call with the CEO of Bid Rx Dr. Ralph Kalies and the owners of Bidformymeds.
Sounded (to me) like they were “Authorized”
Just called the number from fdlac.com that K.Chang referenced regarding a $2.50 a month price point. The number was a direct line to BidRx.
After a very informative conversation with a representative of BidRx, I was made aware, that “IF” another “association” is offering BidRx. You would have to be a member of said association, as well as, pay a substantial up front membership fee to join their association (she said maybe $500). Totaling well over $7 a month, with the caveat of also being a business owner with employees and also a member of said association.
She continued to state that the “only” way you can become a member of BidRx is with a special code. This code is “only” offered threw one their partnership Associations (and their required upfront and monthly fees) or from a direct representative of Bidformymeds.
(Ozedit: offtopic rant removed)
P.S. Yes. I am going to happily join and promote Bidformymeds.
The fact of being able to “legitimately” save customers money on their already outrageous (and should be illegal) prescription medication cost. For only $7 a month and the potential (my customers can see “exactly” before signing up with NO contracts how much they will save) to save you hundreds or even thousands (listen to the latest call with CEO of BidRx and owner of Bidformymeds) of dollars a year, brings me peace.
Is it perfect? You show me any company (in or out of the industry) in the world that is…and we can talk. Until then, stick to hating on all the real crooks and give some props to those who provide real tangible “value” to the end consumer.
It’s a question that arose out of BidForMyMeds failure to adequately disclose their relationship with BidRx. It’s also a result of the deceptive marketing the company used in trying to ride the coattails of BidRx’s PR.
I note and welcome the change BidForMyMeds has made in their website verbiage to better reflect the distinction between BidRx and BidForMyMeds, but that doesn’t change how the website was presented when the review was written.
The review is clearly dated and when it was written, there were some major deceptive marketing red flags that needed to be addressed.
And some issues still need to be addressed, specifically why BidForMyMeds still does not disclose who is running and owns the opportunity to the general public and prospective affiliates.
Right. Or you could just join BidRx for free.
As I mentioned previously, it took me all of thirty seconds to obtain a code through Google. I didn’t bother checking who owned the code, but I did use it on the BidRx website. It worked and, if I chose to proceed, would have allowed me to sign up for free.
Right. Because charging people $7 a month for something that it otherwise free is “value”. As for joining BidForMyMeds, go nuts – this review wasn’t tailor written for you to make your mind up on.
Oh and way to conveniently ignore the $17 a month chain-recruitment pyramid scheme BidForMyMeds have going too. No matter how much “value” you claim to offer $7 members, the issue of paying $17 a month to get paid to recruit $17 a month affiliates endlessly remains.
We’re not discussing “any company” here, we’re discussing BidForMyMeds. Stop trying to make up offtopic excuses.
A call to BidRx would have answered that simple question. But that would not have fulfilled your agenda.
Ride the coattails? They are working together.
Right. And when I do not want to pay for my gas. I fill up and take off. So you are promoting theft? Huh. Thought that was the type of thing you harp on?
In addition, If someone needed the service bad enough…that they had to “steal” to get it. I wish the best for them.
The codes out there online will soon be shut off. Thank you for bringing them to everyones attention.
I emailed BidRx and requested a code. Below is their reply:
Thanks for your request for a referral code for BidRx. Unfortunately, referral codes are no longer available directly from the BidRx Corporate Office. Please use an Internet Search Engine to find an independent broker for BidRx that can satisfy your request.
Thank you,
BidRx Customer Support
So if you do use one of those codes. You would be stealing.
My topic was…
Considering that you now know that your implied title was agenda driven and easily (ya know like…call BidRx) disproved.
I shouldn’t have to call an MLM company to find out basic information about them and to clarify whether or not they are using deceptive marketing on their website.
In any MLM review here on BehindMLM I will flag this because it’s unacceptable.
They are independent entities owned by different people. BidRx themselves have identified BidForMyMeds as an “independent marketing company” (see comment #31).
Right, theft. Scraping the bottom of the intelligence barrel here…
Do it yourself, google BidRx code and you will find websites freely giving you BidRx codes in less than a minute. These are the owners of said codes giving them away as a marketing strategy (instead of running a $17 recruitment scheme).
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
BidRx were using misleading and deceptive marketing on their website, which was cause for concern and warranted the suspicion they may have been using BidRx’s unauthorised. Given the changes the company has made to now clearly identify they have no marketing of their own, only that of BidRx’s – it obviously was agreed to be initially deceptive.
The only person with an agenda here is yourself, trying to justify a $17 recruitment scheme.
Crunch time: Seeing as your in contact with BidRx, care to identify who owns it and the executive management? We’re almost on 50 replies with no official acknowledgement of company ownership (a major red flag).
Oh and also care to explain what exactly $17 affiliates get over $7 members, y’know… other than commission qualification?
(If you do not address the two above questions, your next comment will be marked as spam)
From a recent BidForMyMeds affiliate email:
This is what happens when you engage in gross misrepresentation and marketing deception on your company website.
It’s also why I stand by my initial red-flagging of it.
Nobody bothered to answer the question: who’s going to pay $7 or $17 when one can pay $2.50?
Enough waffling. So what if BidformyMeds has a marketing agreement with BidRX. Yes, Oz got that part wrong, but that’s due to the company’s own lack of info / misleading information.
The rest of it doubles / triples the price and made it into chain recruitment scheme. Phooey.
Well , interesting reading. I just signed up for this and really love it. I do think the review is flawed and not accurate.
Bidrx is not a free site. It is pay or access thru an organization, such as a union, etc. Certainly not free and is used by many Docs and health care facilities to assist their patients in finding low cost meds to purchase.
The owner is Craig Behrens and does have MLM background.
Anyway, I think it is a good service, it certainly has saved my contacts quite a bit of money on their prescriptions. I do think the review was not well done and the reviewer did not do enough digging to get the correct info.
@Sandy
You just signed up and your already claiming to have saved your “contacts” money? Huh?
As per BidRx themselves, membership is free. You just pay a bit more for your prescriptions. Otherwise access codes are readily being given away for free by BidRx partners on the internet elsewhere (Google search “bidrx code”).
Why doesn’t BidForMyMeds openly disclose this on their website?
I’m known for doing a bit of shovel-level digging in my reviews. If you have to dig with an excavator just to find out basic information about a company, there’s obviously a problem on the company end.
Did you sign up at the $17 or $7 level?
The review clearly REFLECTS the company it tries to review. The information found was not accurate, and had a lot of misleading details.
When people have tried to clarify something, they have typically posted misleading marketing material and misleading marketing statements.
BTW, do you believe the mirror is flawed when you wake up in the morning, or does it reflect you as you really are? “I believe the mirror must be flawed”.
That is incorrect. Membership is NOT free. The CEO of BidRx said they have changed the membership requirements (No longer FREE) because of their partnership with Bidformymeds on a Bidformymeds conference call.
And if you use (i only found 2) codes online. You would be stealing.
(i already know you are going to spam this message. But the Facts are the Facts. )
Orly? So what are BidRx charging for membership now? Why is this not disclosed on their website?
Here’s what BidRx’s Terms and Conditions state as of January 22nd 2014:
There’s nothing about monthly “we pay you to recruit others” $17 membership fees. It’s still free to join, whereas BidForMyMeds charge $7/$17 a month irrespective of whether anything is purchased by the “participant”.
bidrx.com/about_us/terms_of_use.html
Stealing from who? The companies who own the codes?
If codes are given away by other BidRx partners, how on Earth is that stealing?
And again, what’s the difference between $7 and $17 BidForMyMeds membership?
12720 WEGAL AVE KENT CITY MI 49330 Regestered office address
Craig Berens Rigistered owner of bidformymeds in Michigan.
Google the address and it shows a one acre land spot is all.
I couldn’t find a referral code online. I filled out the complete form, minus the code, and still couldn’t get in. I the beginning it said you didn’t need a code to do what I did. But at the end the lack of a code stopped me from completion.
@Dan
I didn’t try any of them this time around but “bidrx referral code” into Google reveals a fair few.
I registered with a code I found on the original Lifehacker article dated 2011.
Bidrx will provide you with a code. It is “INFORMED”.
It’s funny how this stuff goes viral the way it does. A guy I grew up with called me around 230 or 3 yesterday and asked if I had a minute. I thought, here it comes, he went on to tell me what he knew about it and the ex Gov. Tommy Thompson endorses it.
His plan is to get 10 people from Milw. craigs list to get 10 more people and so on……after blathering for awhile, I had to stop him and tell him I already researched it and knew pretty much about it.
I sent him this link and told him to read it. Haven’t heard back yet. By the way, the ex-Gov. endorsed BidRx, not BFMM.
“Bid For My Meds” sounds to me like some folks trying to sell their prescription drugs to the highest bidder through an online auction.
I used the referral code….informed… and all the pharmacies are 100 miles from my house. They are also about 150 dollars more than what I’m currently paying. Laughable.
I wouldn’t have endorsed any of them. BidRX is extremely vague, and it can be difficult to understand some parts of the conditions.
Adding an income opportunity to it won’t make the service become any better, it will more likely become worse. It will reduce the VALUE of the cost savings, i.e. cost savings to consumers will need to be “easy to use” in addition to saving costs.
It has already become more difficult to find referral codes = more difficult to use for a random consumer. That’s the wrong type of idea for a consumer service. They have been focusing on their own profit rather than on the service they try to offer.
You also have the VAGUENESS = do we have to pay membership fee or is it free to become a member of BidRX?
Sometimes the effect of reduced prices can be quite the opposite of what we expect, e.g. products being produced specifically for that purpose (e.g. slightly reduced quality to get a higher profit margin so the prices can be reduced).
Sometimes it can affect other prices, i.e. the average consumer will actually have to pay more for his average consumption to get a few products at a reduced price.
I will neither endorse BidRX nor BFMM. I will consider both of them to be “junk companies” and “parasites”.
Consumers should focus on VALUE rather than PRICE. Does BidRX add anything of commercial value to the distribution chain, or is it simply a parasite trying to suck profit from it? A parasite will most likely cost the consumer more in the long term, directly or indirectly.
Commercial value is about the value of producing the product and making it available to the consumers. IKEA’s “do it yourself” solutions can be sold at a reduced price because of lower commercial value than a company doing that job for you.
Price is a “mechanism” in trade. It can have emotional value for most consumers, but it doesn’t hold any commercial value in itself.
As a consumer, you should respond to SOME price variations but not to all. Some types of responses will only reflect dysfunctional ideas, e.g. if you’re buying something you normally wouldn’t have bought to prices and conditions you normally wouldn’t have accepted.
BidRX appointed Tommy Thompson as “advisor” back in 2008. It’s stale “news”.
From what I hear, the service is not as good as our MLM friends initially reported. The value to the end user is simply not there, or at least, not consistent enough to warrant $7 per month.
Maybe that is why BidRx went with the MLM model. Most MLM’ers don’t give a rip about the price of the product or service….just the “deal.” $99 for a bottle of juice that sells at Sam’s Club for $19.95. This model was fine before the digital revolution changed the game.
Today, anyone can search for a product or service and get the BEST PRICE within seconds.
Thus, the MLM Model is Dead. Put another way, “the roots are dead….the leaves just don’t know it.”
I am an insurance agent and have been involved with BidRX for a while now (about two years).
BidRX hasn’t been trying to get involved with MLM. In fact, it has been the opposite. They have been courted by several folks trying to get them into MLM. BidRX did not see any of the plans presented to them as a viable method. I know because I saw one of the plans with my own eyes.
It wasn’t until someone/s put forth a plan which they finally found acceptable but also legal and so forth. You just can’t decide to wake up one day and MLM your company. Lots of laws, rules and regulations. This has been a work in progress for a while now.
As far as VALUE goes, we have in the next town over from me a doctors office which has one computer in it (there are others reserved for staff and day to day operations) specifically set up for patients to use BidRX. I’ve personally been marketing the plan since two years ago or at least telling people about it. There wasn’t much money to be made so I more or less just told people about it.
Now I know for a fact that the undertaker at the funeral home a few miles up the street from me uses the plan and he is saving several hundreds of dollars on his medications. Whether he still is I don’t know (with health care reform I’m not sure what he is doing now about his meds as I don’t offer the Exchange plans).
Also a fellow agent friend of mine has been using the service for over two years now. He saves around $250 per month. So to say that there is no value there is completely false. If I know of two people (one for sure) PLUS an entire doctors office as I described above using the service for their patients and I’m just one guy, then I can only assume there are hundreds if not thousands of other people experiencing savings on their medications.
And no the service is not free. You have to be a paying member. You are allowed to do a mock bid for free but if you are going to use the system you have to pay. It has always been that way since I was first introduced to it. Before then I couldn’t tell you what the cost was if any.
Oh and on an interesting note, my buddy fellow agent had two people come into his office today having financial woes when it came to their medications so he went onto BidRX, found some cost savings as well as the generic options and both those ladies will be signing up.
I don’t think the system is perfect but I haven’t found anything perfect yet. I don’t think every person is going to be able to save money. My doctor wanted to put me on a medication for headaches and I went to BidRX site and I couldn’t seem to see where there was going to be any savings. My insurance will only supply me with so much of the medication as it is quite expensive. The rest I have to pay for myself.
I do plan on having my buddy follow along with me again to see if I was inputting something wrong or perhaps something has changed in the last 5 or 6 months with this medication and the BidRX site. Maybe there is a savings now?
I always liked that saying “whether you think you can or think you can’t, you are probably right”. I have read all the posts here and see A LOT of bad information and misinformed people. I don’t really know if this is a good opportunity or not. I’m not 100% sure it will be around in 30 days or 6 months.
I do know that today I spent almost $20 for a Sprite, ten chicken wings (drums only) and a side of Blue Cheese. It was a horrible lunch. Some of the worst food ever. (oh and a side of curly fries). I just got back from Chili’s and had another horrible encrusted Talapia meal and a Sprite for about $15 with tip. $35 for crap food today (which is why I normally eat at home but I am at the office swamped and if I go home I won’t work anymore today). So for $17 a month to have another business, I’m thinking that’s not so bad.
Yeah about that. Calling the charging people $17 to join and paying them recruitment commissions when they convince other people to pay $17 legal is a bit of a stretch.
And by stretch I mean totally not legal. The BidForMyMeds compensation plan pays on the recruitment of new affiliates, charging said affiliates $10 solely to qualify for aforementioned recruitment commissions.
According to BidRx’s website, it was. Any fees charged were payable only at the pharmacy level. This is vastly different to charging people $7/$17 a month irrespective of whether they even use the service.
This seems to be the flavour of the month around here. We’ve gotten quite a few “Yo, I dunno my dick from my arse but here’s why y’all suck” type comments.
If you don’t understand the business model and compensation plan, that’s fine. But don’t write paragraphs of waffle to cover up those shortcomings. Neither myself or anybody else gives a crap about you saving money. This is a review and discussion of BidForMyMeds business model and compensation plan.
Apologies for being blunt but it does get a bit repetitive hearing from people who fail to address anything brought up in a review, and instead opting to go off on irrelevant tangents.
So you say it is totally not legal. Are you an attorney? What credentials do you have that one should listen to you?
If the service is free, then my buddy can get a refund along with several other people I suppose. He’s been paying $8 for about two years per month.
Somebody else said there was no value in the service so apparently someone did care. I simply pointed out my personal experience of knowing people who use the service and save money. So your comment that Mr. OZ that “nobody gives a crap” is just another one of your statements that just isn’t true.
Maybe you should read stuff before you type stuff. You sir don’t have much if any credibility with me. Others may look to you for this and that but when I see errors on your part for simple stuff, you just lose credibility with me anyway. I wish you much success though!
@Ben – can you give actual names of the medications you used in your example of savings?
This would help in establishing YOUR credibility with this board. So, just include the medication name, info and price so we can check the “value” of the service.
From what I understand, there have been only a few actual customers that signed up at the $7 level since the launch of BidForMyMed opportunity. Almost everyone is signing up for the $17 opportunity “deal” And, most of the internet “money game” types (initials EG, BG for example) are no longer actively promoting it on their Facebook page.
Since you know the insiders of the company and have access to what is going on, do you know the actual customer/distributor ratio?
Why are you asking about “credentials”?
Normally you should have asked for legal logic, legal sources or other logical information for the topic you’re asking about.
We have exactly the same type of credentials as yourself = ordinary internet users without any specific profession or education. If you’re looking for “expert advices”, you won’t find it here. That’s why your own posts were allowed, we can accept that standard too. 🙂
You will probably find SOME legal information in the other BFMM thread:
https://behindmlm.com/companies/bidformymeds-threaten-legal-action-over-review/
@MLM Broken Model
I’d have to think about whether or I not I could post the name of the medications he is saving with and when I have to think about it, that’s not usually good in that I can accommodate your request.
In all fairness to myself, I was going to do that in my first post. The problem is if certain people find out who I am then they will automatically know if they read this who my buddy is and exposing his medications on a public outlet such as this would be a HIPPA violation and I could get into trouble.
Now if he wants to come on here and discuss it, that is up to him. He’s an old dinosaur when it comes to computers so to not get your hopes up I would think it highly unlikely of him to participate here. I know of a few people ‘lurking’ here and reading this thread who are very capable of participating but are just sitting back.
As far as the ratio of members and marketers, I couldn’t tell you because I don’t know. It is however on my list of questions which I have written down. However, the way I understand the pay plan is you have to have so many members of the service. Whether they have to be only members and not marketers I don’t know.
I can tell you way back when I was in Pre-Paid Legal, I asked the same question and it took some digging, but if I recall, there were just about the same 50/50 mix but members seemed to fall off the books. After all, when people don’t use something and they are paying for it, they tend to drop it. But anyway I’m getting off track here.
I have no problem with these sorts of discussions. I’m all for it. I’ve just read some things that just aren’t accurate (notice I didn’t say “true” as I’m not going to accuse folks of lying).
As far as my credibility goes, I haven’t stated anything that wasn’t accurate and true. I’ve only stated that I knew of a few folks saving money with BidRX. I’ve never come on here saying I knew dozens or hundreds. I do know the company has been around for a while and credible sources have spoken well of it (BidRX). Bidformymeds is just a marketing arm and a way for others to build a business.
I don’t see it being a practical business model for many people but hey I’ve been wrong before. I see many people a week in my line of work who if they aren’t having a problem now with prescription drugs, they will be (unless they just don’t take any) due to Health Care Reform. Some people I see aren’t good candidates for this.
For those people I sometimes am able to help them get their medication for a small monthly fee (not to me) for no cost. They could do it on their own and pay nothing but there is a lot of paperwork involved on an ongoing basis.
You probably won’t see much more of me on here if at all. I’m very busy with work (my real job). In the meantime I’m just gonna sit back and see how things play out. Nothing I can do or say on here that is gonna change the outcome of how this thing goes so it isn’t gonna be on my priority list to be here.
@ Ben
All I asked for was the Name of the medication, dosage and price. There is no need to post the name of your friend or yourself, for that matter.
If you would rather not provide this information, that is fine too.
If BidRx had been saving people a lot of money on their medications via the Direct Sales model, they would NEVER have gone the MLM route, IMHO.
@Ben
Don’t listen to me, engage your brain and use your own common sense.
From the FTC:
http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/inv08-bottom-line-about-multi-level-marketing-plans
There’s no incentive to sign up $7 customers over $17 affiliates. History tells us in this scenario that you end up with an MLM company full of affiliates recruiting affiliates.
The company claims legitimacy on the $7 offering but if it’s largely ignored and insignificant revenue wise, then effectively they are running a pyramid scheme. That’s what it comes down to.
Again, what’s the difference between $7 and $17 BidForMyMeds membership other than “pay to play” commission qualification?
And we haven’t even gotten into the offering of access to discounts as an MLM product. That’s a no-no too. Use of the actual BidRx system (purchase of tangible products) has nothing to do with BidForMyMeds compensation plan, that’s a problem.
Depends who he bought the service through. BidRx themselves were offering access to the service for free. Their resellers adopted the monthly fee model.
This is/was all explained on the BidRx website, which has been quoted here previously (guessing you didn’t read much).
How do you identify “misinformed people”, i.e. how do you separate “well informed” from “misinformed”?
The quote was quoted from post #69. You can probably point out some examples for both groups if you don’t have any specific system to separate them.
I will ask questions like that when people are using that type of arguments, and the arguments are not being supported by any logical explanations, and the arguments are general rather than specific.