American Dream Nutrition Review: Ambigious autoship
According to Wikipedia,
The American Dream is a national ethos of the United States in which freedom includes the opportunity for prosperity and success, and an upward social mobility achieved through hard work.
Throw in some “Christian principles and values”, weight-loss, heart pills and juice… and you’ve pretty much got the gist of new home-based business upstart American Dream Nutrition.
Read on for a full review of the American Dream Nutrition MLM opportunity.
The Company
The American Dream Nutrition website contains no information about who is running or owns the company.
American Dream Nutrition is a company founded on Christian principles and values.
We are committed to stand alone as far as the quality of our products, the exciting new income potential our compensation plan offers, and we especially pride ourselves on our “we care about you” customer service policy.
That’s about as in-depth as it gets… with the rest of the company information page following a similarly vague tone.
Further research however has revealed that a ‘Greg Gunderson’ (photo right) has been named as the CEO of the company. Why this isn’t just mentioned on the American Dream Nutrition website however, I don’t know.
The domain ‘americandream4me.com’ was registered on the 26th February 2011, however the registration information is set to private.
Greg Gunderson appears to have been in network marketing for a while now and has at one time or another been the CEO of New Century Life and TriUnity International.
Interestingly enough, on the company page for TriUnity, American Dream is mentioned:
In 1993, Mr. Gunderson entered into the Network Marketing Industry. He worked his way to success in three companies with which he worked.
Mr. Gunderson, also, developed several copyrighted and nationally acclaimed Direct Marketing Systems for his “downline” members. Ultimately, after about 4 years as a Successful Distributor, Mr. Gunderson launched his own MLM company, American Dream Nutrition.
Mr. Gunderson, using a Direct Mail Marketing System that he created, recruited THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Autoship Distributors within 1 year for his company American Dream.
His company, American Dream, is still in existence today and has been a long-running successful MLM company with distributors across America and Canada.
I’m not sure why the American Dream Nutrition website mentions that they are in pre-launch in March 2012, but it appears that American Dream has been around since the late 1990s. Perhaps American Dream “Nutrition” is being run as a separate company.
The American Dream Nutrition Product Line
American Dream Nutrition has three flagship products that members can sell and earn commissions on:
- ThinMagic Ultra – a ‘weight management super pill’ made from Glucomannan fibre, Caralluma, Cha de Bugre and Fucoxanthin ($49 a month)
- Get Juiced – a juice made from ‘107 organic & natural ingredients, nutrients and super whole foods’ ($59 a month)
- Clear Heart – ‘an all new one-of-a-kind formulation with L Arginine, EDTA, Nattokinase, Co-Enzyme Q-10 plus many other proven ingredients designed to help clear years of plaque and calcium deposits from the heart and arteries‘ ($69 a month)
American Dream Nutrition don’t state who they have making their product line,
We have teamed up with several doctors, bio-chemists, formulators and manufacturers to produce our products.
Our manufacturing facilities are FDA regulated and operate under strict guidelines of Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP). Our manufacturers are some of the largest in the world.
Which doesn’t really doesn’t count for much without any specifics.
The American Dream Nutrition Compensation Plan
American Dream Nutrition offer members a matrix based compensation plan with retail and Fast Pay commissions along with various performance bonuses.
Retail Commissions
American Dream Nutrition offer members up to 60% commissions on all retail sales. The company does not provide any further specifics.
Fast Pay Commissions
American Dream Nutrition’s Fast Pay commissions are paid out when newly recruited American Dream Nutrition members make their first order.
Members earn a 50% commission (the other 50% goes to their upline) on their first two personally recruited member’s initial orders.
From the third recruited member onwards, a 100% commission is earnt on their initial order and you earn 50% of their first two recruited member’s initial orders too. This commission structure is followed for all members thereafter.
Matrix Commissions
The residual commissions component of the American Dream Nutrition compensation plan comes from a 2×15 matrix.
A 2×15 matrix starts with you at the top and branches out into two legs underneath you. These two legs in turn then branch out into two additional legs each and so on and so forth, with the first few levels of the matrix looking something like this:
In total, a 2×15 matrix has 65,535 positions to fill and as you fill these positions, depending on which level of the matrix a recruited member falls on, American Dream Nutrition will pay you out a percentage commission on their orders.
- Gold members earn 4% on levels 1-6 and 2% on levels 7-9
- Platinum members earn 5% on levels 1-9
- Diamond members earn 5% on levels 1-9 and 1% on levels 10-15
- Double Diamond and Triple Diamond members earn 5% on levels 1-9 and 2% on levels 10-15
Note that retail and preferred customers do not take up any positions in the matrix.
Quarterly Corporate Bonus Pool
Each quarter American Dream Nutrition set aside 3% of the company’s commissionable volume and pays out this pool to qualified Diamond members.
Diamond members earn one share of the pool, Double Diamond two shares and Triple Diamonds 3 shares.
Car Bonus
Triple Diamonds are able to earn a Car Bonus that is paid out monthly at a rate of 1% of their total gross sales volume for the month.
There doesn’t appear to be any requirement that this bonus be put towards a car loan or purchase.
The American Dream Nutrition Membership Ranks
As above, the matrix commissions and the Quarterly Corporate Bonus Pool components of the American Dream Nutrition compensation plan are tied into membership ranks.
There are four membership ranks in American Dream Nutrition and along with their respective qualifications, they are as follows:
- Gold Member – minimum $50 a month on autoship.
- Platinum Member – minimum$100 a month on autoship.
- Diamond Member – minimum $100 a month on autoship, must have at least 5 personally recruited Gold or Platinum members and a total matrix group volume of $10,000 a month.
- Double Diamond Member – minimum $100 a month on autoship, must have at least 8 personally recruited Gold or higher members (2 must be Diamond or higher) and a total matrix group volume of $25,000 a month.
- Triple Diamond Member – minimum $100 a month on autoship, must have at least 12 personally recruited Gold of higher members (4 must be Diamond or higher) and a total matrix group volume of $50,000 a month.
Joining American Dream Nutrition
Membership to American Dream is tied into the purchase of products with the cheapest option being to order $50 of products a month and qualifying as a Gold Member. $100 a month qualifies you as a Platinum Member.
There is no way to progress from Gold to Diamond other than upping your monthly autoship to $100 a month.
For all intents and purposes, membership to American Dream Nutrition thus has two price points, $50 (Gold) and $100 (Platinum).
Conclusion
I have to admit that when I read the description of American Dream on the TriUnity website as being made up of ‘THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Autoship Distributors‘ that one of my red flags went up.
Not that autoship sales aren’t sales, but when you tie in membership to self-consumption, and then advertise your business as one full of autoship distributors, it brings up images of people with garages full of product they’ve purchased but never intend to use.
Of course when we’re talking small consumables like the American Dream Nutrition product line, there’s less of a chance that’ll happen… but the point still stands.
Through the combination of autoship and membership, American Dream Nutrition are forcing their members to self-consume. And however small the chance might be, it unnecessarily introduces the potential of autoship hoarding.
With one product this isn’t such an issue as you either want it or you don’t, but with multiple products there’s a good chance someone might just want one of the three products available. Unfortunately with a $100 minimum autoship requirement if they want to progress in the business that means that they might wind up buying an additional product they have no interest in using.
And if they can’t give it away… the only reason they’re purchasing it is to participate in the compensation plan, which doesn’t strike me as a genuine sale but rather an autoship scam.
Again though, this a potential risk and the chances of it happening will depend on how American Dream Nutrition is marketed by the company and its members.
Other than that, if the products work and you can find a market for them then I don’t see any further issues with the compensation plan. There’s an option for retail and if your customers like the product they have the option of signing up as a preferred customer and getting a discount, with no obligation to join the company themselves or participate in the compensation plan.
Considering however that the company provides little specific information on who is making their product for them, this might be a bit of an issue on the marketing side of things.
Moreso when you consider that none of American Dream Nutrition’s products are FDA approved (not a criticism in itself, but not exactly confidence-inspiring when you don’t know where they are sourcing their product from).
Update 17th October 2018 – updated American Dream Nutrition reviewAfter a reader requested we revisit the company, BehindMLM published an in October, 2018.
Spoiler: affiliate autoship recruitment is still a problem.
Technically speaking, FDA does NOT approve ANY nutritional products, other than they have a label that says “This product is not intended to treat any disease….” and they don’t contain potentially harmful stuff like ephedra.
Thanks for the review. I am a Founding member in american Dream Nutrition and have been with the company for a few months. So far i am happy with the company. You are right about a few things, but i want to clarify some points.
You are correct about the ambiguity. There are a lot of specifics left out on the current website. The company has not even officially pre-launched and a new promotional website is being developed. The programmers are just finishing things up I am told, and should be ready in days.
Now a distributor can join for as little as $39 per month as a Silver and be qualified to earn up to $63K per month. A Gold must purchase 2 products and can vary from as little as $69 per month up to ~$83 per month. A Platinum must buy 4 products ranging from $138-$196 per month. The dollar totals mentioned in the article are not accurate.
The comp plan employs a 2 x infinity force filled matrix, with dynamic compression. We have the lowest qualifiers, and highest payouts in the Industry.
Unlike most MLM companies, our plan is built for the masses and the majority of members earn a check. Regular binary plans require you to get paid on the weakest leg. This is very unfair as you can have a million dollars in volume in one leg and the weak leg way less volume.
It is possible that you may only get get a $50 check in that case. In American Dream Nutrition, you get paid on ALL legs at ALL levels. You will see soon, this is as good as it gets in MLM.
The bottom line is that even though communication between the company and the public must improve, there is no doubt that this company, and it’s distributors are on to something very special. They sell high impact. results oriented products and may have the best pay plan in the industry hands-down.
Mark S.
Thanks for the clarification Mark, when the new website goes live let us know and I’ll go over it and update the review accordingly.
As I understand it American Dream Nutrition launched late last year? Management seem to be dragging their feet a bit information wise.
As it stands that’s how the company are advertising themselves and as such that’s what I’ve based the review on. If the changes don’t go through in the next few days, then American Dream Nutrition really should pull the entire site as they’re grossly misleading potential members.
Regarding the matrix, dunno why they call it 2xinfinity when it only pays out 15 levels.
I hear you. The company as we know it today didn’t really launch last year, but it basically transformed itself into American Dream Nutrition from the TriUnity Company.
They have not “officially” pre-launched yet, but are taking in founding members first before the real pre-launch set to take place in the next few days.
I agree that the old corporate website needs to be taken down as soon as the new one comes up. Information does need to come out quicker as it can be very frustrating.
I’m almost hesitant to drive traffic to my old site sometimes because i know things are going to change a lot with the new site.
I will definitely let you know what the new site is up. I have previewed it, and it is pretty impressive. We are launching a promotion that is pretty unique to the industry as you will see.
As for the 2 x matrix i called it “by infinity” because even though it is a 2 x 15 matrix for most levels, once a member reaches Triple Diamond they can over ride the entire matrix at 1% on the “16th level”. This can go on indefinitely.
As you can see, if one is an accomplished marketer they can earn over 7 figures annually in this plan. Even newbies have the potential to earn a significant annual income. The understanding the matrix document in the blog I posted explains this.
Take care and have a most excellent night!
IF,American Dream Nutrition is a company founded on Christian principles and values. Why would the CEO name there flagship product Altra thin “.Magic.”..
Any Real Christian would stay away from promoting a product with the words “Magic”in it.This is contradicting. That’s why I did not go with “Magic Coffee”..And we know what happen to this product,And they must not have any Christian principles,because they didn’t learn from there mistake and Now promoting “Magic Juice”.
I guess distributors are excited about the Comp Plan. Like me to over look that we are Promoting Magic Pills that is what people are call it.Company should keep religion out in promoting to masses.Not everyone is a Christian.
I’m also a Founding Member with American Dream Nutrition and was with TriUnity. I cant say enough about the products. They are world class products and they do work.
As far as the name; there is no Magic in ThinMagic Ultra. Its what’s in it that makes it works and it definitely works.
Also, this is the 1st MLM/Affliate marketing program/business that I have ever made any money in. And I have been in a few. And Guess What? I didn’t break the pocket book joining.
So, if anyone is reading, check it out for yourself! Don’t just take my word for it!
I feel deceived. Been in since March 2012 as a Founder. I have been on auto-ship and recruited 3 people. American Dream was introduced having potential to earn up to $63,000 monthly without sponsoring anyone. They should indicate the math behind that claim.
After 5 months I only have the commissions I earned and just the 3 that I had recruited under me. I am stopping my auto-ship.
I have been involved with several networking companies. American Dream has some really outstanding products.
is this company open in U.K/Europe?
If you try to purchase a product it only gives you the option of “United States”, so I’d say no.
Can someone help explain the folliwing part of the Terms and Conditions, please?
Is that legal? I am very interested in the products, but don’t understand why the sponsor would be held liable for a charge back. Distributors sign up people they may not personally know!
AND they can terminate your membership which means you would lose everything you built up. I’ve never heard of this!
Go To Ebay.. Buy “GET JUICED” for 44.00 includes shipping.
Enough said…
Whenever you have a product in which affiliates dump them on third party sites…. you have a problem…
Sure the product is good…but why not save a ton buy buying elsewhere and not be tied to a autoship..???
Its the first thing that anyone should do when thinking of joining a MLM Product company…because how can you honestly sell the product to non affiulates when they can get it for way cheaper.
Don’t commissions get paid upline?
So if you do a chargeback – where do you think they will try to get the money from?
Plus it puts each sponsor on notice they should be training their downlines to be earners and not the type to want to quit.
Yet knowing this going in would you want to risk that with your huge following that all it takes is a few to quit with a chargeback to come back to bite you?
It only shows those Terms and Conditions I mentioned above under some Distributors that are building their team. It does not say that under the main ADN website.
I have used and also been part of American Dream Nutrition since 2012. The products were great then but as they have evolved over the years not only is our wrinkle cream my favorite product the Phytozon truly is amazing.
The new compensation plan and an admin team that’s builds helps build you line for you a true blessing. Such and amazing team with many years of experience. I am so thankful I’ve joined. This shall bring me residual income for years to come.
Patti:
The chargeback statement you quoted above, is that from the PIF program information?
If so, that is in place to keep people from constantly putting people in the business that have no intention of doing the business.
When the company pays your first month, you get 1 Bottle of PhyoZon, 1 PhytoZon DVD, and your websites. They require you to enroll in Autoship for the following month.
What was happening, was people were cancelling and or doing chargebacks before the first month ended.
So, I can understand why they have it in place. When sponsoring with PIF, just need to make sure the prospect knows in advance they must stay on autoship for at least one month.
I’d suggest a slightly more mundane reason: the upline didn’t bother explaining the “regret procedure”, i.e. I regret joining and I want my money back.
The upline should be the first line of contact when it comes to company related stuff.
If the new recruit can’t be bothered with contacting the upline when it came to regret, the upline clearly either didn’t do a good job explaining things… or was outright deceptive while recruiting people.
In which case, I agree there should be a review.
This is a SCAM! My so-called sponsor told me that a lot of people are joining, and he would personally place some of them in my downline. Enough to keep me from having be on auto-ship ($53.50). It never happened!
If it’s growing so fast, then why was this a problem? I gave it four months. During the three years I’ve known him, this is the 6th MLM he’s been in. I’m sure he’ll get out of this one too.
Besides, I heard long ago that when a company touts themselves as having “Christian values” you’d better RUN!
They only do this to put people at ease. Otherwise, why say it? Just be honest and do what you say. Red flag!
The people commenting it’s a scam because someone else didn’t build your downline are idiots.
You should be ashamed yourself. It is what you make of it.
The complaint about christian values? You rather they have Muslim values? Seriously stupid complaint.
Here an idea for everyone with thier complaints, you start an MLM well see how perfect it is?? Or you just take shots at them?
When what you have to work with is effectively “sign up on autoship and recruit others who do the same”, there’s a problem with the business model itself.
A MATRIX is the worst plan on the planet for DISTRIBUTORS and the BEST plan for the COMPANY – huge breakage. You are falling for the same old MATRIX TALK – don’t believe it – it NEVER HAPPENS!!
Most of this information is not true. Many things have changed since 2012. Please update the article or delete it.
The information in the review was true as at the time of publication, which is clearly provided.
That said I’ll flag the review for an update and suss out what’s changed. Thanks for the heads up.