WUKAR’s Matt Trainer slams Dubli: “They lied to us”
One of the loudest players in the Dubli recruitment hype that took off last year was Matt Trainer’s team WUKAR.
Through partnership with Tony Rush’s Home Business Labs, WUKAR were responsible for recruiting hundreds, if not thousands of affiliates into Dubli.
As the months dragged on however, it clearly became evident that all was not what it seemed.
Now as Dubli itself is trying to emerge from a battered reputation, WUKAR’s Matt Trainer spills the beans on exactly why things didn’t work out.
In the July 26th WUKAR update, Trainer (right) launches into an expletive-ridden tirade against Dubli, his former business partners and disgruntled affiliates who signed up and later turned on WUKAR after it failed to deliver.
[2:00] Guys, we have been majorly, majorly, majorly weak up until now.
Because of the way that everything went down with Dubli and Home Business Labs and all these assholes out there that don’t understand what we’re trying to do.
Trainer’s criticism of Dubli is probably the most eye-opening, with the business itself referred to as a “failure” constructed on a foundation of lies:
[8:11] The Jobs Board system and the automated systems and all the money we are pumping into this thing, it heavily relied on a couple of things.
One – Dubli stuff had to convert.
And that required Dubli to honor their word and provide us the thing that they promised us, that they swore they were going to give us from the date we signed up to be a rep with Dubli.
It just never happened. They lied to us.
Their shit didn’t convert like they said it does.
The numbers that they gave us, this 80% of free customers convert up to VIP customers – bullshit.
It was a lie.
We even found out a bunch of lies that several other top leaders told about how they have lots in Grand Cayman, they have shares in the company, all this shit – all lies.
And the average amount of cashback that customers got and the percentage that we would get as a representative in Dubli, all lies guys.
Former business partners are also thrown under the bus, with Trainer claiming they are only for people who “want to play games”.
[13:06] Warriors don’t play around. I’m not playing games anymore.
I’m gunna be a leader. I’ll lead you guys to where we wanna get but this isn’t kid’s games anymore.
If you wanna play kid’s games go join HBL (Home Business Labs), play their bullshit game.
Go join X-Factor, play their bullshit game with whatever the fuck they’re doing now.
Trainer’s most viscerally dismissive comments however, are directed at those who might feel they lost money in Dubli.
Claiming to have recently learned “how to be a man”, Trainer’s message to disillusioned WUKAR members couldn’t be clearer:
[5:10] If you don’t like what I’m saying, don’t like the way that I do things, don’t like my confidence, you don’t like my cursing…
Fuck you. Go somewhere else, I don’t care.
[3:27] There’s others of you watching this video right now who haven’t made a fucking dime, and (are) bitching at us in our Facebook groups because you haven’t made any money.
[3:46] And we’ve been kissing your ass, trying to make you happy.
We’re not fucking doing that anymore.
[12:15] I’m not fucking take shit from anybody anymore.
I’ve put my heart, my literal blood, from a couple of little things that we’ve had happen, literal blood sweat and massive amounts of tears into this thing to make WUKAR the biggest, baddest thing that’s ever come around.
And I’ll be damned if you guys are going to crucify me.
I fucking tell you, bring it motherfuckers. Cuz I’m ready to fight.
If you guys don’t like my message or how I’m delivering it, get lost. I don’t give a shit.
[15:11] I got every piece of evidence that you can imagine and even more than you can imagine.
Number one with testimonials, of hundreds of people making a lot of money using WUKAR training – that has nothing to do with Dubli or any MLM shit.
Left unclear is whether Trainer thinks all MLM is “shit”, or just Dubli’s particular offering of it.
[15:35] You guys looking at me right now, think your gunna bring a class-action lawsuit against me?
I say “fucking bring it”.
I’ve got attorneys backing me. We’ve gone through everything. They’ve all seen everything we’ve got.
You guys got nothing on me.
[15:56] I can document every single fucking dime that I’ve put into this.
And I have evidence of all the training we’ve had, everything that we’ve done for this team.
Weekly calls, daily calls, all the training.
Bending over backwards for everybody, Facebook group, sucking everybody’s ass and making everybody happy.
It stops now.
You guys got an issue with me? Fucking bring it.
Closing out the call, Trainer announces that “Team WUKAR” is changing its name to WUKAR.
[13:57] We’re taking on the likes of Google, Yahoo, Facebook… all kinds of people. This thing’s going worldwide.
[16:51] We have woken up. And we have woken up our minds, we have woken up our spirits, we’ve woken up our commitments to you guys, we’ve woken up the warriors inside of us.
We’re waking up to making this thing a bad motherfucker.
We’re gunna start kicking ass instead of kissing ass.
[17:42] I hope you guys are still with me but guess what, if you’re not I don’t give a shit.
I’m gunna keep on going, I’m gunna keep on pushing, I’m gunna keep waking up, waking up more people, I’m gunna keep kicking ass, I’m gunna keep repeating that… until we get to where we wanna get.
And I don’t care if every single person on our team leaves. I don’t.
You can all leave. Go play your bullshit kid’s games somewhere else.
With the name-change, Trainer declares “goals” to be a “pussy-term” and reveals WUKAR’s new “target” instead is to “create one thousand millionaires”.
[18:54] We’re not kissing ass anymore. Including yours, whoever you are watching this.
So, get your gripes and moans and complaints out now because any more negativity slammed against my team or against me is going to be dealt with.
We’re bringing a fucking fist to people that wanna fight.
You wanna fight, let’s fucking fight. I got it man and you guys won’t beat me.
Cuz get what, I don’t care if I lose.
In the past, public criticism of Dubli has been met with the lingering threat of litigation.
Whether or not Dubli publicly respond to Matt Trainer’s claim their opportunity is built on lies, remains to be seen.
Gee Matt, only 1,000 Millionaires? Not very ambitious are you. Andy Bowdoin, of ASD Cash Generator, promised he was going to create 100,000 Millionaires.
Amazing isn’t it how all the so-called “guru’s” couldn’t see Dubli for what it was, but all of us haters and dead broke losers could.
and years ago I might add. hilarious when entitled scammers throw hissy fits because they don’t get what they want.
Team WUKAR has brought some new insight into how DubLi operates, e.g. the short term “marketing campaigns” based on “new, revolutionary ideas that forever will change network marketing as a business model”. 🙂
It’s all based on empty promises. The “new insight” (mentioned initially) was that they allowed us to watch it live this time and to make comments about it in real time. 🙂
c’mon guys, matt trainer just didn’t know about dubli being a recruitment scam!
he didn’t even know how ‘to be a man’ up until this video.
given that he’s a middle aged man with years of MLM experience, this is surprising no doubt, but his badboy cussing leaves me too scared to ask!
Sorta makes you wonder if he’s quit playing games, why is he wearing a pair of Gunnar Optics SteelSeries Scope Eyeglasses (in Snow Carbon) which are gaming glasses. (Steel Series is a gaming peripheral manufacturer).
(I know because I own two pairs of Gunnars)
Wow, what a tough guy scammer he is!
the reason matt trainer is so fearless is because he is a convicted felon.
in around 1999, matt trainer and his brother jason pleaded guilty to mail fraud after blowing up 2 million dollars of investor money, in high risk trading and las vegas gambling.
the plea deal got matt trainer 37 months in prison while his brother jason got one year.
this recent video seems to be a throwback to prison jargon. is matthew trainer missing prison life?
business.highbeam.com/435553/article-1G1-76675017/law-order
What kind of 2 bit loser would invest in a company without seeing the numbers documented.
Anyone with half a brain runs away from crap like this. Anyone who was part of this, is getting exactly what they deserve.
You were ALL told by professionals of some sort, at some point that this was all bullshit and you thumbed your nose at the advice.
I have ZERO sympathy. They should ALL go to jail. If nothing else to keep them from procreating or voting and perpetuating the utter stupidity.
I too would love to be the top dog on a serial scamming team like his.
Where do these “teams” even spring up from? Do they put on their CVs: Serial Ponzi Team Member since blablabla.
Nah, they call themselves “serial entrepreneurs / team leaders”.
Unfortunately, to be top dog in a team like this you need to have a Hitler-type charisma and similar ability to intimidate / inspire, ability to simulate empathy, but only a simulation since once they put in their money they are worthless (except for their propaganda value). AND you need ability to compartmentalize your morals.
You’ll claim that you are a totally God-fearing upright citizen, while go on and “lead / inspire” your team to put in more $$$ so you can get rich, and still sleep at night because you’ve managed to delude yourself as to your ability to earn an honest living.
This is all just smoke and mirrors. Sure, Dubli lied about a few things, and so did Matt Trainer.
Matt always had excuses as to why nothing he did worked. Wasted time of Thousands of people with the job board he created.
He steals from people, says he will take care of them for sharing info, then start a them in the back. He knew he was leaving Dubli long ago, and scraped as much cash out of the program as possible…branding WUKAR and his less than nice wife.
While everyone was working on Dubli, Matt was creating his own system to sell to everyone. No way Matt could ever create a thousand millionaires, him and his wife are too selfish.
The greatest lesson working with WUKAR is learning who NOT to work with. He’s pissed in this message because he has no following anymore, well, compared to eight months ago.
We see your game Matt… and I recommend anyone to never work with these crooks.
Tell it like it really is Matt! You’re pissed because no one listens to him anymore: he’s pissed because most of his team went to HBL. He’s pissed because their top leader Constance is still there taking care of Tarlese’ team after she ABANDONED them.
He’s pissed because he isn’t making six figures ao th anymore. He’s pissed because his new system is failing too! Wukar=FAIL!
Why did he stab Team X Factor in the back? I thought he was best buddies with his former scam buddy Rich Cook (X Factor).
Look at the tough guy behind the keyboard.
Matt Trainer apparently threw everything he learned from his so called “LIFE COACH” by the wayside and acted like a 8 year old he got his ice cream stolen on a hot day.
His rant was publicly embarrassing for every member of Team Wukar and maybe that is why he dropped the Team. When you loose as many affiliates as he has, you no longer have a team but a bunch of individuals like Matt.
Matt is a very Selfish human being and that is that.
He is also very immature as noted by his ridiculous tirade on the Week 11 update. Of course he blames everyone else. Of course he is going to say that his “Training” is worth thousands….ummm “yeah WRONG” Matt. Your stuff is not worth the garbage I threw out in the trash this morning….
[Sigh!] Shame on you, Matt Trainer, for actually believing Dubli would give away plots of land along with a free home just for producing.
What an absolute moron and embarrassment you are to the profession of network marketing.
Some of us actually play by the rules and treat our teams with respect.
You need help, Dude. Or you’re going to end up right back in jail again.
Heck. You’d think you’d learn from your mistakes.
Apparently not.
Well this didn’t take long …
businessforhome.org/2015/08/dubli-to-file-law-suit-against-matt-trainer/
Matt Trainer posted this on the businessforhome.org page referenced above:
This may get quite interesting
I was given the Dubli/Wukar pitch about 9 months ago. I have always had a slight distaste for MLM’s, however, the persistence of friend and claims that “I really didn’t know business if I passed up this opportunity”, I decided to be a spectator, knowing that this would just be another fad for my friend.
I had no idea it would be so entertaining.
I first asked to see the compensation plan that was given to my friend directly from Dubli. He claimed he was never given one, but that I should be able to request a copy straight from Dubli.
Dubli’s response: Obtain a copy from a business associate. It was obvious to me that the powerpoints being passed around on Youtube were not a binding contract. How could you not get the terms in writing?!
All of these “entrepreneurs” and “leaders” should be held accountable. There was no actual compensation agreement produced by the company, yet they spread around what was no more than a rumor, as a fact.
While both companies appear to be lead by completely awful people, I have to side with Dubli in the case against Matt Trainer. WUKAR not demanding to have compensation terms in writing is completely on them.
This looks like Karma to me:
facebook.com/tarlese/media_set?set=a.10153714446853939.1073741861.562893938&type=3
Yes what goes around comes around. Its the law of the universe.
Of course Matt Trainer has moved on and is moving on with his scummy life. He is now claiming to have done “online work for Paris Hilton, Dr. Phil, among many other well-knowns.”
It looks like he is distancing himself from WUKAR by appointing Tar’lese CEO, and he is now pushing “The RichJerk”, which has it’s own history of fraud.
themcmethod.com/episode-86-matt-trainer-email-copy-man/
Wow.
Matt still owes me ‘credits’ for videos I did for him over a year ago. It will be interesting to see how they get out of paying.
I will probably get some recycled ‘courses’ that will cost 100,000 credits a month…lol
I am still a member of Wukar and on their secret Facebook page, just for curiosity. Interesting how you need to have a secret Facebook page relating to something you want to promote, and kick anyone off who might dare to ask when they are going to produce anything of value.
Stay away from anything Wukar or Matt or Tarlese.
Matt Trainer and Rich Cook sent out an email before launching WUKAR, promising that if you followed his steps and didn’t become a millionaire, he’d give you 100k.
Well he didn’t honor that promise, as I tried to take him up on that 😉 He just cussed at me and threatened a lawsuit. What a loser.
I was one of the promised millionaires… I lost months of time and worked so hard for him. I believed in everything he said.
He told me I was his brother and he loved me like a brother. After our falling out that HE caused saying I was trying to STEAL HIS IDEAS (when all I did was try to advance a brand we were working on because he wasn’t doing SHIT that he said) he flipped out… then 5 months later texted me that “he missed me” and said I was his brother.
I never responded. MATT KF YOU SEE THIS… FUCK YOU. I will accept your apology if it starts with a 1 followed by several zeroes… asshole.