Alive Matrix Review: Virtual space as a product?
Claiming they are ‘a global debt-free company founded in 2006‘, there is no information on the Alive Matrix website indicating who owns or runs the business.
The company’s website domain (‘alivematrix.com’) was registered on the 19th May, 2007, however the domain registration information is set to private.
Despite the company claiming to be 7 years old and having a five year old domain, the Alive Matrix opportunity was only launched in late August, 2012 (source-code of Alive Matrix website, image right).
As always, if a MLM company is not openly upfront about who is running or owns it, think long and hard about joining and/or handing over any money.
The Alive Matrix Product Line
Alive Matrix as a business opportunity has no retailable products or services. Instead members are only able to market membership to the company itself.
Membership is free however if Alive Matrix members wish to earn any money, they must invest in an “eStore”. These eStore’s are hosted on a separate domain over at ‘almaglobalshopping.com’ (domain registered on the 13th August 2012, reflecting the true age of the business).
Alive Matrix sell eStores by the “unit”, with each individual eStore capped at 300 units in size (a maximum of $3000 spent on each eStore):
The size of the store is measured in units and each unit is valued at $10.
Given the virtual nature of Alive Matrix’s eStores, it’s unclear as a product just what members are paying for.
Well, it is until you look at the Alive Matrix compensation plan.
The Alive Matrix Compensation Plan
As mentioned above, in order to earn anything Alive Matrix members must invest in “eStore units”. Each of these units costs $10 with members capped at investing $3000 per eStore.
Note conflicting information exists on the Alive Matrix website stating that each eStore is actually capped at “250,000 active units” which is an account cap of $25,000. Which amount is the actual eStore unit cap is unclear.
After investing in eStore units, Alive Matrix members then guarantee a ROI:
You receive 2% per day… Monday to Friday and 1.5% on weekends for the first 3 months, after this period if you wish to continue to make 1.5% per day on the weekends.
2% a day for 90 days works out to be a 180% ROI, with a 1.5% ROI paid out each Saturday and Sunday for as long as the member continues to invest with the company.
Note that in order to qualify for their ROI, Alive Matrix members must recruit four new members who pay the annual $75 eStore admin fee and invest themselves.
Alive Matrix state that their ROI scheme is a ‘Profit Share Program’, and with most of the money coming into the company via eStore uni investments, this means the bulk of the ROIs paid out are funded by members.
Alive Matrix do state that some of the ROI revenue paid out of eStore sales, however a quick look at Alexa rankings of both the opportunity and the eStore websites indicates the stores are largely being ignored:
AliveMatrix.com – 188,462
AlMaGlobalShopping.com – 2,267,654
Finally, the company states that should new member investments slow down, leaving them without enough money to pay everyone out, that they reserve the right to reduce everybody’s accounts by ‘an acceptable level of up to 20%‘.
Joining Alive Matrix
Membership to Alive Matrix is free, however if members wish to earn anything they must pay an admin fee of $75 (annually payable) and invest money with the company.
Investments are made in lots of $10, capped at either $3,000 or $25,000 (which is unclear as both figures are mentioned).
Conclusion
Hidden behind a separate online marketplace that nobody actually uses (and being a replicated sales store, it’s doubtful anyone will in the future), Alive Matrix, through various wordsmithing attempt to mask what is otherwise a pretty obvious Ponzi scheme.
This screenshot from an archived cache of the company’s compensation plan (now no longer linked to from the company website) pretty much spells it out:
“Something positive” of course is just Alive Matrix taking new member investments and using them to pay out their guaranteed 2% daily ROI to existing members.
Or more simply put, an unsustainable Ponzi scheme.
I was contacted by a “David Cant” in regards to this review:
Cant, based out of Brisbane in Australia appears to be the owner/admin of Alive Matrix, listing himself as the ‘contact info’ on the Alive Matrix Facebook page.
I replied to his email stating that lawyers don’t make a business model legitimate and that he was free to point out any inaccuracies in the review.
Excellent.
I’d love to see how a real lawyer can explain how Mr Cant can offer earnings of “up to 2% per day” WITHOUT being a ponzi.
Should be an interesting read when it arrives, Oz.
Perhaps you could reproduce it here so we can achieve maximum exposure for something that should set the investment world alight with excitement.
Hmmnn, Come to think of it, the gentlemans’ name is “Cant” and he’s offering “2% per day”
Freudian slip? Coincidence? HYIP humour?
Here’s some more
legal threatscorrespondence from Cant:Cant wants you to believe a shopping mall nobody uses that offers a handful of products is capable of generating a ROI to Alive Matrix affiliates of 2% a day.
He also failed to mention that, if the profits are generated via a merchant shopping portal, why on Earth affiliates are able to invest in virtual office space (although he claims none of this money is used to pay out a 2% daily ROI).
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
O.K.
So,
not suprisingly,
no explanation of how his of all the squillions of businesses on the planet is the only one which can generate 2% a day “earnings” without being a ponzi.
In the words of the immortal bard:
Riiiiiiiiiiight
He’s just recycling the “I paid a bunch of lawyers, I must be legal” argument. Didn’t work for Zeek, didn’t work for ASD… likely won’t work for him either.
Only “likely” won’t work,Kasey ??
One wonders how a respected law firm such as TressCox feels about having its’ good name used to legitimize such a blatant ponzi operation.
Perhaps someone should email them and ask for their opinion.
contact_us@tresscox.com.au
BTW, Oz, David Cant started a website called behindmlmfakereviews.com. However, his own weasel talk is rather funny. 🙂
Yeah saw that. Ah well, not worth wasting my time over.
All he did by creating that site “behindmlmfakereviews.com” is boost your popularity. Thumbs up lol
Thank you for your review. I recently joined this company, it is very frustrating that they aren’t up font about who own the company, who works in the company, there’s no phone number to talk to anyone.
It looks shonky, feels shonky, sounds, shonky and I’m sure it’s shonky as well.
And why is the shopping mall operates under a different website, is that to protect themselves just in case…
PEOPLE KEEP AWAY – Unless they come with all the above and be upfront about everything.
One true thing I heard is the guy/s who started it was involved with zeek.
This paragraph reads exactly like a Ponzi scheme, dissuading people from withdrawing their initial investment…
I hate how these schemes always seem to target those that can least afford it.
Blatant ponzi. Overheard the pitch for this other day from someone that proclaimed themself “very near the top”. She waffled on about 9 different income streams which she couldn’t actually elaborate on. Oh, did I mention this same person wrangled a fuckton of folks into zeek as well?
Turns out the vendors who are currently on the mall site don’t even pay a fee for the first year…except on sales rendered from the site. I suspect this amount is anywhere from very little to nil. So, where does the money for member payouts come from? Oh, that’s right… Also, the shopping mall website is awful, Cant see it being viable even if it was legal.
I too was bitten by this joke.. Alive Matrix. They continually change the goal posts and at one stage you could register 2 businesses instead of ‘conning’4 of your friends to join.
BUT WAIT, then this was not correct. As for shopping in their mall, there is not alot to choose from apart from amazon.
So many rules which are mostly hidden AND anything bought from the shopping mall the businesses are charged 12% which goes to Alive Matrix/Alma Global… Its a con
I am surprised that there are no more complaints yet about alive matrix. It goes beautifully for members with much encouragement to build e stores and advertising units and downline. An onsite calculator gives glowing prospective hopes of a return.
Then the penny drops that there is nothing worth buying on the shopping mall without being “had”.
Once a member tries to withdraw the hurdles are insurmountable and downline persons drop off which equals ineligibility to withdraw. By this time monthly fees are high and unsustainable so the money stays in the pot.
Very convenient…for management.
By this time one wouldn’t want to introduce one’s friends and hopefully would not have enough enemies to offer free membership just to qualify to withdraw by now, rather impressive funds.
I think the tide will turn soon for new members, such difficulties.
Tragedy is the use of the hummingbird as an emblem and quoting an emanent international humanist as an example to follow. I wonder what he would think of the use of his name and philosophy.
Thank you to the two previous comments which have really summed up the current problems with this program. For any new person considering joining my only advise would be, don’t walk away, run away.
It is sad to see how a business that started with the best of intentions is now a blatant rip off, especially for those who can least afford it.
*Allegedly* started with the best of intentions.
After all, if they don’t say that, you probably wouldn’t buy into it.
Whether the promoters KNOW it’s a fraud or not, the effect on your pocketbook is the same. The only question is are they accomplices, or merely judas goats?
I’ve been studying this amPSP “opportunity” for a while, and the more i look into it, the worse it gets.
By restricting the withdrawals based on how many people you succesfuly bring into the scheme, they seem to be attempting to market a set of rules that would “fix” the expected breakage of a pyramid scheme (unless a somewhat obvious external governamental force stops them, of course) by merely paying people only IF they succesfully bring in more people.
This is the truth about their premium membership plan: If you don’t bring in at least 4 people into the premium membership plan (which requires annual fees, monthly fees and etc – Basics dont count), youll be unable to withdraw more than 10% of your own applications.
Needless to say, the effect of such a necessary growth in the number of people participating in the scheme is yet the same as in any pyramid scheme: for every person able to withdraw more than 10% of their applications, there will be 3 which are unable to (as the number of people in the last level of a geometric progression of 4 seems to chase 3 to 1 when compared to the number of people in all the other levels).
This means that however you look at it, we will see 3 people unable to withdraw more than 10% of applications for each person that is able to. And of course, since MLM is subject to market saturation, we will see lot’s of people (75%, in fact) shedding tears out of pure regret for having participated on this.
Oh, and let’s not forget to quote their most obviously abusive agreement rules!
I had to lol at that rule 7: Who on earth do they think they are, really!!?
Sources: alivematrix.com/member-agreement/
I could add at least another 10 complaints here. They are all the members I referred into the program over the past 8 months. We are incredibly disillusioned.
The people at the heart of this program are rude, greedy, blatantly greedy and uncaring and yet, somehow they espouse the principles of equity, selflessness, and global camaraderie! Please for heaven’s sake do not be fooled.
I’ve been emailing admin for weeks to request a refund on behalf of my member referrals, some of which are pensioners (even an 80% refund, which, by the way, was the ‘guarantee’ they AM at one stage, though, like other conditions, it has miraculously disappeared from the website!) but they are insisting that we all agreed to certain terms and conditions that prohibit any refund of money.
All of the above comments, particularly those by ‘vs’ and ‘G.SP’ are absolutely spot on! I for one feel seriously ripped off and scammed. I regret that I in any was supported such a scam operation.
I just wish there was a way to warn more of the general public about this. Open to anyone who can offer suggestions here….?!
sorry for a few grammar errors in last post!!
By the way:
I agree – I actually met some of the leaders of this program at a Gold Coast, QLD launch back in August 2012.
If I think back to the ‘language’ they used to explain the program I am fairly certain there were no ‘good intentions’, just a well thought out plan on how to make a lot of money illegally without being held accountable down the track…
Rule 7… sounds a lot like the Legisi Ponzi. I think PPBlog would know more about it than I do.
It was Rule No. 6 when it was used by the ProfitClicking scam, the successor scam to the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam.
PPBlog
Hello K. Chang,
It’s very similar to Legisi, a $72 million fraud. Legisi, though, made members “avow” they were not an “informant, nor associated with any informant” of the IRS, FBI, CIA and the SEC, among others. The others included “Her Majesty’s Police,” the Intelligence Services of Great Britain, the Serious Fraud Office, Interpol and others.
PPBlog
Glad people are realising the enormity of this thing that promises 2% per day then claims it would be a pyramid scheme and using alive matrix as a “bank” should they allow members to withdraw money at they chose.
They reserve the right to terminate accounts and forfeit any money at will for any reason that they decide is valid. Actually on signing in now a member ticks that he will abide by the dictator’s edicts before getting into his site.
THE OPENING PARAGRAPH ABOUT EARNING UP TO 2% PER DAY AND WITHDRAW MONEY DAILY IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BLATANT LIE. Every time a Webinar happens the rules change again and again and now the fees are up to three fold
What a wicked program and abuse of good people
The CEO of alive matrix is laughing his way all the way to the bank with his reasons for not paying out that are endless.
Actually he boasts about his purchasing gold. Hope the price drops because we are left without any available money value from our input of hard earned cash and from following the changing kaleidoscope of silly rules and having introduced people who trusted our belief in the program and done the same.
It is a wicked travesty.
I am a victim. When I first joined, it was a simple program that looked fantastic. The rules changes on the fly.
Even today, the rules are changing. The latest is if your account is not active for the last 2 months, you can’t make any withdrawals. So, all that talk about being able to withdraw 200% unconditionally is a lie.
I hope the news of this SCAM go to the authorities.
How Dare alive matrix require you to do a little work to earn money
it should be given away free and willy nilly
(Being Sarcastic)
i bet all the people winging are the people that want to do nothing and get rich at the same time.
morons
further to it the reason for all the changes is because of the members trying to rip the system off so thay only have them selves to blame.
I don’t think “changing the rules” so that you can keep affiliates’ money as an admin qualifies as making affiliates “do work”.
they have not changed rules to keep peoples money
rules have been adjusted to stop abuse of the system like people opening 30 or more accounts to feed there main account with advertising unit $ commissions
if every one did the right thing from the start then the rules would not have been changed so unfortunatly because of the bad intentions of others the ones doing it right are yes now finding it a little harder
but thats not alive matrix’s fault it is people doing the wrong thing.
to keep people’s money.
Got it.
Affiliates can’t really win when withdrawing their commissions is “doing the wrong thing”.
btw im not a admin i am just a independant agent
read everything i wrote not just 2 lines
do a bit of work and you can withdraw
alive matrix is not a do nothing get rich business it requires some (not much) work
I did.
Alive Matrix launched, affiliates participated, Alive Matrix
changed“adjusted” the rules to keep their money.Bingbaddaboom.
Despite marketing it that way to affiliates to get them on board, now it’s not. From what affiliates have posted here in the comments now Alive Matrix is an “admin keep all your money” business.
they stoped giving the advertising unit commissions because people were opening hundreds of accounts to feed there main account and that is agains the rules always has been
it is abuse so they stoped it
and so they should
If this was “agains the rules” then why did they have to
changeadjust the rules to stop it?Were any of those affiliates affected by the
changeadjustment refunded?How does opening accounts without money “feed” their main account any way? And if you have to open account with real money, then it’s a net loss, not net gain.
Sounds like you’re being bamboozled with jargon talk.
Looks like they have changed their whole model. It appears that you can’t get any money out, and the little guys will get screwed.
Don’t bother Troy, your arguing with a bunch of conspiracy theorists. They don’t understand the business (because they don’t want to)and are picking the pieces of literature they can spin into negativity because that’s were they live.
They have made many accusations against some people which are disgraceful. If they were actually trying to protect people from fraudulent schemes they would do the proper research.
Alive Matrix is providing an opportunity for people to attain a financial freedom that could never be achieved by toiling away inside the box until you retire on nothing. You need to be committed to making it work and follow the procedures laid out to achieve the goals you set.
Flexibility is required so that AM can get it right (making it sustainable). The people who don’t have the patience or ability to stay positive will fall by the wayside complaining along the way on sites like this.
I feel sorry for them the most because they have had the opportunity but let it slip through their fingers due to fear. The amount of investment of your own money is minimal, if you follow the guidance provided by AM’s dedicated team to the letter you can’t go wrong.
I joined in September with $750- and the members I brought in along with me and I are doing very well. The business has changed immensely (all for the better)the PSP no longer exists and the many income streams are effective and inclusive to those who are prepared to work.
AM is a marathon and not a sprint, its like anything worth doing, it takes some focus and some work but above all else it takes positivity, something this site is extremely void of.
You can waffle on all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that there is no justification for Ponzi/pyramid schemes. Period.
And can you support this theory of yours?
By the same token, I can describe you thus… “Don’t bother debating with Jon here. He’s a ponzi supporter who doesn’t want to deal with FACTS as he had none to offer, but instead paints anyone who’s not in the scheme as ‘them’ who cannot understand and thus cannot be reasoned with. If Jon wants to live in Ponzi lala-land, let him.
What makes your viewpoint “more” valid than mine? Hmmm?
My viewpoint is not more valid than yours it just comes from a position of knowledge and understanding of what I’m commenting about.
I would assume you are not a member of AM, I would also assume that the fact that you are not a member makes no difference to you anyway as you are prepared to make unsubstantiated claims and accusations about people you don’t know and about a business you know nothing of either.
After reading the comments on this page about AM I have made some assumptions myself about who would make them without making the effort to educate themselves beforehand, I may be wrong but I don’t think calling you guys “a bunch of conspiracy theorists” is very offensive or damaging to reputations.
On the other hand some of the assertions made on here about the people involved with our business are definitely defamatory and offensive. I can see how people are apprehensive about business’ like this but if you are going to criticise someone else’s ideas and systems you need to investigate and use the facts as the basis of your argument.
If there are any valid reasons to publicly decry this business then raise them, I’m sure your intentions are good and you are trying to warn people about the pitfalls of MLM but this is not that type of business. All the members are adults and make their own decisions about where they put their money.
Unfortunately some people only hear what they want and don’t follow the right procedures leaving them destined to fail, worse than that is that all the people they bring are promised things that weren’t correct in the first place so they are all disillusioned when things don’t work out the way they had hoped.
We’re just trying to make something work that is not as conventional as other business’ and if it pans out the way we hope, a lot of people that would otherwise have little hope to achieve some great freedoms in life, will prosper in ways they could only dream of.
As opposed to what, detailed analysis of Alive Matrix’s compensation plan?
None whatsoever. The notion that you need be a member of a company to understand and analyse its business model is absurd.
So you’re asserting that Alive Matrix are misrepresenting their business on their own website and compensation plan then? The plot thickens.
Well if the company’s own website and compensation plan aren’t good enough, what material would you suggest we analyse?
I assume you can read. Try y’know, reading the review hey.
That’s one of the reasons BehindMLM exists. Glad to see you identify and place importance on this problem just as much as we do.
Hope, dreams and being different have nothing to do with the legitimacy and analysis of a business. Only an MLM company’s business model does and as far as Alive Matrix goes, all I see is red flags and tell-tales many a pyramid scheme have used before it.
I think behind mlm needs to google what a ponzi scheme and Pyramid scheme are and then google MLM or network marketing.
a ponzi/pyramid is where there is no product at all and it is member paying member. a mlm/network marketing is where there is product and am has product. do some research.
and it is not virtual space, this whole review is a sham.
Wrong.
And by definition, an e-store can’t have a physical size attached to it other than memory storage. Certainly not units which implies some sort of physical constraint.
once again you are wrong
as i said google ponzi/pyramid
seems that you havent
If you cannot even get the basic definition of a Ponzi scheme right, please do not waste any more of my time.
From Wiki:
And where does the above definition say anything about products? Plenty of Ponzi schemes have products.
Ditto the pyramid scheme definition, which clearly states wheret he money is coming from as opposed to merely having a product being a valid differentiator.
you guys are idiots
Says the guy who made a statement, refused to acknowledge it was wrong and then proceeded to provide a definition backing up said statement which itself confirmed he was wrong.
From idiots to Ponzi schemes – the definition of words clearly isn’t your thing.
To an idiot, the only people NOT idiots are fellow idiots. They have a common frame of reference. 🙂
You clearly have not looked into the Pigeon King Ponzi in Canada to have said that. Guess this is a good time to do your own research instead of touting your ignorance.
Ive read the review Oz, that is why I decided to comment in the first place. There are so many inaccuracies that I was compelled to engage.
You guys have already made your decision about AM and are totally closed to the possibility that you may be wrong. Obviously there is no point in debating this issue with you guys, it seems your incapable of a sensible discussion.
This is a good thing really, everyone else (with any sense) that reads this one sided overly defensive dribble would come to the same conclusion……your criticism will be taken with a grain of salt so the effect on our brand is minimal.
Why is it that you find it necessary to express yourself with such arrogance and talk down to anyone who try’s to appose your view? Alive Matrix is awesome! The people are awesome and if you or anyone you know wants to get involved just let me know and I will help you as much as I can.
As I’ve said before…we are all adults and make our own decisions, it’s never too late to grab life by the horns and get in the game.
Feel free to name one but don’t even think about wasting my time with nonsensical psuedo-compliance.
False. The review was written only following close analysis of Alive Matrix’s compensation plan and business model.
You Alive Matrix and invest up to $3000 in units, they pay you out a 2% ROI.
Where does that ROI come from? It’s not rocket science. Hell, I even referenced the Alive Matrix website verbatim with included screenshots that blatantly states the revenue comes from referrals (other affiliates).
Not when all you have to say is ‘Alive Matrix is awesome! The people are awesome’.
The review is based on factual information taken directly from the Alive Matrix website. By all means feel free to point out any factual errors in the analysis (remembering the basis of the analysis was taken directly from Alive Matrix’s website).
So long as people understand exactly the mechanics of the game they’re getting into, I agree. Turns out recruiting new investors in schemes like Alive Matrix is a lot harder when they understand how it works though.
And really, that’s the only reason you’re here flapping your arms about how “awesome” the company is yet failing to address any of the criticisms levelled at the business model.
When you update your review (the website and business has changed immensely)I will enter into a grown up conversation hopefully without your insults and talking down behaviour.
There is no need to be condescending and rude. Maybe there is someone else that could speak for your side.
So all you can say is “we changed a lot”, but you can’t name any of the changes?
If you consider “confronted with the truth” to be “talking down”, then yes, this site is full of it. if you can’t take it, perhaps you’re the one who need to “grow up”.
If your interested in the truth, do the review. If not just keep being confrontational.
It might be easier just to start your grown up conversation yourself, rather than telling people you’re willing to do so if they rewrite a review completely?
I’m ready. I haven’t exactly studied the compensation plan or business model, but you wanted to tell us about changes?
I have not participated in the discussion here, but I browsed through some of the comments to get an overview. As far as I can see, people have already told about different changes and other frustrations.
I love it when affiliates to these mlm frauds show up and pretend as if anyone on this site has a particular agenda against their specific little scheme. Newsflash; all of these scams are exactly the same.
It doesn’t really matter what you call them. Pyramid, ponzi, elder crushers…I actually prefer granny grinders, myself. They’re designed for the people at the top to make a lot of money, really quickly at the expense of everyone else.
No one cares about Alive Matrix, because it’s nothing more than a cheap copy of a bunch other frauds that have come before it.
How is Alive Matrix fundamentally any different than Zeek Rewards? They both have a pretend product that they claim is massively successful and offer a return on investment that creates an ongoing liability which will eventually swallow the entire “program” when people stop putting money into it.
Alive Matrix just added a new twist to it, forcing affiliates to recruit (knowing that this is very difficult for the average person, meaning they’ll just keep their money) but fundamentally, they’re both ponzi schemes.
In Zeek you invested in “bids” and “gave them away” to fake customers to qualify for your ponzi payouts. In Alive Matrix, you just put money into an estore, which obviously isn’t profitable because otherwise the MLM aspect of the “business” wouldn’t exist.
Because both the penny auction for Zeek and the Estores for Alive Matrix are just fronts intended to lazily disguise the true nature of the “program.”
Of course the fact still remains that any teenager living in his parent’s basement could string together an identical site with a pyramid/ponzi matrix and rake in plenty of affiliates. It really requires nothing more than a script to run a “program” like the one above.
The lack of questions being asked and people’s willingness to blindly follow “leaders” into these things is the reason why obvious frauds like Alive Matrix can continue to exist as a plague the on MLM industry.
It always amazes me how so many so called “leaders” can’t take a few seconds to wonder WHY a company that can apparently guarantee you a 2 percent a day, 180 percent return on your $3000 investment would actually accept investor money, thus having to pay that back to you, when they could just put their own money into their business and advertizing and keep it all for themselves.
Why would ANY business accept having to pay 18 dollars for every 10 dollars invested with them, meaning a $3000 investment would cost them $5400???
What business in the real world do you know of could actually support those kinds of financial burdens and liabilities??? For goodness’ sake, a real investment opportunity pays out 2 percent PER YEAR! This is absolutely ridiculous.
By this same logic, the owners of Alive Matrix could just take a $50000 bank loan and invest it in their Estores…at 2 percent a day, for 90 work days, that comes out to $90000. So in 90 days they paid off the equivalent of a home loan and made $30000 on top of it…
So why do they need you affiliates again?
Oh, right. Because it’s an obvious fraud and the entire basis is about deceiving people into investing their money so that it can be stolen.
You honestly have no guarantee that the owners (who attempted to hide their identities in the first place) won’t just run with the money and leave you all high and dry. You don’t even know if this David Cant guy is a real person or not. Roman Novac, anyone?
The majority of the review is based on a now defunct part of the business so I think a new review would be helpful for all that visit the site now and in the future.
A review conducted by me would obviously be considered bias so I will leave it to the exponents of this site if they so wish.
I can’t see any detailed compensation plan information on the Alive Matrix website. Only mention of matrices and three buy-in levels for affiliates.
When your company is upfront about its compensation plan, perhaps an updated review can be considered.
As it stands, Alive Matrix’s compensation plan overview only informs affiliates what they have to put into the scheme and the mandatory purchase requirement through the mall. That’s not good enough for a review.
Fact of the matter still stands, when this review was written, Alive Matrix was a blatant Ponzi scheme guaranteeing affiliate investors a 2% ROI today.
What they are now is hidden from the public and prospective affiliates visiting the Alive Matrix website.
In other words… We’ve hidden the potentially illegal parts from public eyes so we demand a new review…
NOT!
As you can’t name the truth (whatever you consider to be), perhaps a better question is… what is it to you?
It’s based on the business model when the review was written in September 2012. You can’t update the information it already contains without lying to people.
The article and the comments will reflect the business’ history as it has been, with a lot of frustrations for participants. But that’s exactly how the business operated and probably operates.
I simply cannot believe that you are trying to talk all positively about changes! One of the problems of this program is actually the fact that it doesn’t have any respect for what is has previously agreed with it’s participants!
You are presented to a profit share program in wich you are required to put money into the company on the premise that you will be able to withdraw profits if a series of conditions are met. But after abiding by these conditions, you realise that before you actually had the chance to withdraw any money.
The conditions are changed and you are now required to do something else (completely different and perhaps a lot harder) in order to withdraw even the total ammount of your own application.
The rules of the amPSP have changed around March 18th and yet again on april (if i recall correctly), which means no more than a month later. Also, they have now come up with this “forced matrix” plan which is not yet throughly explained albeit the fact that if it were indeed a sound plan, it should have been completely ready before any announcement of changes.
So do you know what this all looks like to me?
By changing the rules all the time, AM seems to be trying to survive the obvious break down of a failed scheme and/or buy some time before the angry participants start to seek the help of authorities. Period.
And having said that, it’s about the time we quote one of the most abusive rules of amPSP, shall we?
Oh, fun, that’s a HYIP giveaway (i.e. I’m not a cop)
I think some armchair lawyer tried to use this to get lawsuit against them dismissed because they claimed the undercover agent’s joining was invalid and thus any evidence he gathered is illegally obtained. The judge threw that out. Was it the Legisi ponzi? PPBlog? You there?
How would a new compensation plan work to erase the history of the scheme operating as a ponzi??? Did they refund everyone who invested when it was a blatant ponzi scheme? Was everyone who invested before the “changes” allowed to take their money out without having to go through the new hoops to withdraw?
Besides that, regardless of HOW you dress it up, after the failures, collapses and raids of ALL the other “revenue share” mlms (cataloged on this very website!), it’s painfully obvious that the concept doesn’t work.
Revenue share can’t work with MLM, because it’s not mathematically profitable to anyone involved.
If this wasn’t a ponzi scheme, the revenue share would be so astronomically low that nobody would join. That’s because even if some miracle occurred and the Estores managed to gross a million dollars in a year, and the company was willing to split half of it’s profits with affiliates (a massive amount to be sure, considering they would have had costs like shipping, charge backs, inventory, customer service and the like to deal with), the amount of active affiliates participating would make it totally not worth it.
Half of a million is $500,000. Divide that up amongst the active affiliate base, which if it’s like most MLMs, we can assume you have a good 50,000 affiliates working for the company, right? So Alive Matrix grew fast.
Well, after all is said and done, each affiliate who qualifies to receive earnings in the comp plan would only take home $10.
Those would be your yearly earnings. Dividing $500,000 into a year(365) would give you a pool of $1369.86 a day to be split up…amongst 50000 people. The actual daily amount you’d earn isn’t even enough to make a penny.
Just to put this into perspective, lets say that the Estores really took off in a big, big way and made a LOT of money. Even if the company were to gross around twelve million dollars in a year ($12,000,000) and had a daily income of $32,876.71…and EVEN if they were willing to split %90 of their profits with the affiliates ($10,800,00) you’d be looking at making 21 dollars and 6 cents a year!
Realize this; even if Alive Matrix did 1. Billion. Dollars. in profits and shared it with affiliates, you’d only end up with a yearly earnings of $20,000! How much is $20,000? Minimum wage in the United States.
And those stores don’t show any signs of taking off quite like that anytime soon. But to be fair, Alive Matrix isn’t even really doing revenue sharing: it’s a ponzi that uses revenue share as a front.
Do you see how ludicrous this is? Mathematically, this can’t function without fraud. It just doesn’t work. The affiliates add nothing to the “business” and in truth only exist so that they can fund it with cash, or rope in more affiliates and thus more money…for the top recruiters and the operators, of course.
Everyone else will be screwed when this thing tanks…just like in every other ponzi/pyramid/wire fraud scheme.
You can’t call yourself an entrepreneur or a businessman and then just ignore the math. The only conspiracy here is the one that the owner of this HYIP pulled on unsuspecting victims.
You’re assuming they get equal share. What’s more likely is the guys on top gets $10000, and the rest gets $1 each.
Well put Shark!
Legisi used wording similar to what’s cited in Comment #65, K. Chang.
The wording in #65 was used by Frededrik Mann-related scams such as JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid and ProfitClicking.
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I was a member until today, If you are thinking of joining read the below and then make up you own opinion.
Its not even about the money that you may or may not ever see, its about the friends thats you will lose trust with.
Of course some people don’t mind doing the wrong thing to others, thats just reality.
For me I trusted my friends opinion and $500 was not that much that I put in. I thought I would see how it went.
Initially I shared this program with a few good friends, even my brother. Some of my friends called it a pyramid scheme others called it something else, I gave my friend who joined me up the benefit of doubt and continued to tell people about it anyway as I trusted him.
After a few months I stopped asking people to join only because I was very doubtful myself, yes I kept on growing my account but never tried to withdraw any money.
For me it was simple I loved the idea of the shopping mall, the profit share and I really thought it sounded good despite the rather grey areas within the program overview. But one thing was for sure I was not going to talk my friends into doing this unless I was confident myself.
I joined the program early in 2013 and watched the program change so many times I really can not recall. I listened to all their webinars and kept a look out for the changes in the shopping mall. After all, this is what they kept on saying would change and this is one of the main things they where saying the business model worked around.
Months went past and the rules of the program changed so many times that even if I wanted to join someone up I couldn’t because I really didn’t know what the rules where anymore.
For example, there where multiple times where the program overview didn’t even reflect the newer constantly changing rules. How are you supposed to confidently share this program when ur not sure yourself?
My confidence was weakening and I was genuinely confused, maybe that’s what they call an investment? Because I was not signing people up at the time..
Eventually the Shopping mall changed, well changed its face anyway. To my understanding and until today when I last looked the shopping mall still didn’t have any products on there, you could click on any of the items and and error would come up saying there are no records found!
To me if the business revolved around this shopping Mall, would it not be the one thing that should be always functioning. I may add there are plenty of great online shopping malls out there right?
Anyway when I heard about this Forced Matrix, Bells just finally went off but like others I was still curious and just waited it out to see what happened.
For me the more I heard about this Forced Matrix the more I didn’t want any part of it, it just was not making any sense and it seemed to me that the psp and the shopping mall was on the back burner so to speak/that was my real interest as that was what I joined up for.
Eventually they enabled the forced matrix in that users had to put in extra money for and within days the psp program was terminated.
I emailed my friend who joined me up and got little response, for me I am very glad I haven’t lost any friends and I apologise to the ones that have lost money whom I asked to join.
If you want to make money, you got to go out and earn it (that does not mean signing people up to programs like this)
Hi all,
I used to work for admin the last time. I am sorry if my English is no good, I wish to say truth on this business. It is a total lie and the we are asked to not giving back the money by giving all kinds of reasons.
This biz is control by one guy called Hector and his wife from Australia – the biz not even registering in anywhere. It’s illegal biz and he using one company in malaysia to hide his activities, maybe his biz cannot be in australia due to being liar biz.
The other website like for health, for shopping is all bluffing, i am internal admin and there is no activity at all. Everyday we get complain to return the money and my boss asking me to give all stupid reason, till he also run away for few weeks without any news.
From my side is all I know…the biz use marketing cheating and blast many email and online thing to cheat some stupid ppl to sign up.
I am pity them as some is old people not many money…so they are being more poor and when finding out they complains to us but we can’t do anything…we can only reply email but all money control by Hector. His malaysia company is tigerlab sdn bhd – they also cheating our salaries now and we going to labor union for help.
hi all. i enrolled in this alive matrix scam n even brought ppl in. we were lied to by the founder Mr hector bonnelli.
after signing they kept making changes so it became almost impossible for u to withdraw yr earnings. all of us gave up as they kept wanting us to top up the act with real money.
we could not use our earnings to pay for maintenance. the founder is a liar. they prey on third world countries where the poor folks trusted them. DO NOT GET SUCKERED IN.
Alive Matrix is not awesome. It is a bunch of jobless scum trying to find ways to earn money by cheating people online.
Seems as Alive Matrix has left the Building. i was a member fortunatly didnt lose to much .
I never used to believe the reviews on here but it seems most of them are spot on, and im surprised to see how many people keep throwing money at these ponzie schemes that never work.