WebTalk Review: YourNight social network resurrected
WebTalk provides no information on its website about who owns or runs the business.
The WebTalk website domain (“webtalk.co”) was first registered in 2010. The domain registration was last updated on July 20th, 2018.
Robert Garbowicz of First Round Capital is listed as the owner, through the same Florida PO Box address.
Garbowicz is the founder of YourNight, a social network MLM launched in 2010.
Despite projecting it would have 50 million users within a year and a half, YourNight collapsed in less than twelve months.
Read on for a full review of the WebTalk MLM opportunity.
Like YourNight, WebTalk is based on a social network.
Free WebTalk members are locked at having 50 contacts (Facebook equivalent of “friends”).
In addition to free membership, WebTalk offers the following premium subscriptions:
- Pro ($20 a month or $200 annually) – 500 contacts, 5 messages a month to non-connected WebTalk members, 5 email messages, no banner ads and see who viewed your profile
- Pro Plus ($30 a month or $300 a year) – increases of 1000 contacts, 10 messages a month to non-connected WebTalk members and 10 email messages
- Pro Platinum ($40 a month or $400 a year) – able to view profiles without member knowing, able to search members based on age and gender, increases of unlimited contacts, 20 messages a month to non-connected WebTalk members and 20 email messages
The retail side of the business is advertising on the social network, through “SocialCPX”.
Advertising offered is both traditional and via in-house search results when WebTalk users make search queries.
The WebTalk Compensation Plan
The business side of WebTalk is handled through “SocialCPX”.
WebTalk generate revenue through SocialCPX via premium subscriptions and advertising fees.
Known commission rates on WebTalk subscriptions and services are as follows:
- 10% of premium subscription fees paid by personally referred WebTalk members
- 10% of ad budget spent by personally referred advertisers
- 10% of advertised local services purchased through WebTalk
- 2% to 9% of commission generated if a product is purchased through the WebTalk news feed
- 5% of app subscriptions sold via an in-house app store
WebTalk are offering residual commissions to their first million affiliates.
In addition to being one of the first million to sign up, residual commission qualification also requires recruiting and maintaining at least one premium subscription WebTalk member.
Note that a WebTalk affiliate’s own subscription does not qualify them for residual commissions.
Residual commissions in WebTalk are paid out via a unilevel compensation structure.
A unilevel compensation structure places an affiliate at the top of a unilevel team, with every personally recruited affiliate placed directly under them (level 1):
If any level 1 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 2 of the original affiliate’s unilevel team.
If any level 2 affiliates recruit new affiliates, they are placed on level 3 and so on and so forth down a theoretical infinite number of levels.
WebTalk caps payable unilevel team levels at five.
A 10% commission is paid on revenue generated by affiliates in the first five levels of the unilevel team.
WebTalk affiliate membership appears to be free.
If an affiliate wishes to maintain a premium WebTalk membership subscription, they’re looking at an additional fee of up to $40 a month.
To the best of my knowledge having a premium membership doesn’t benefit a WebTalk affiliate through the compensation plan.
Note however that each WebTalk affiliate must maintain at least one personally referred member with a premium membership to qualify for residual commissions.
If it was hard to crack the social network back in 2010, it’s certainly not any easier eight years later.
And much of what I published in our 2010 YourNight review still holds true for WebTalk.
The concept of an MLM social network is primarily flawed, because nobody wants to be part of what is essentially a group of marketers hoping to pitch you on something.
Case in point, have a closer look at WebTalk’s premium memberships.
Benefits offered are strictly marketing advantages, in that you’re paying to increase your advertising reach to WebTalk members.
How does this benefit a non-affiliate WebTalk member? It doesn’t.
They’ll receive unsolicited emails and messages through WebTalk, be limited to 50 contacts and be targeted based on their supplied age and gender by marketers.
Is this already going on to certain degrees in other social networks? Sure – but it’s certainly more pervasive in WebTalk.
This is because nobody is going to pony up for premium subscriptions unless they feel they’re getting something for it.
In this sense WebTalk operates no differently to any other social network: Regular members are the product advertisers are paying for access to.
I’m not knocking this business model. I’m just pointing out that it’s not really bringing anything new to the table.
And that extends as far as WebTalk’s MLM income opportunity too.
As evidenced by YourNight, MLM companies have been trying to fuze social networks and an MLM opportunity for nearly a decade at least.
For reasons I’ve already covered above, it just doesn’t work.
Hell, arguably with all the nonsense Facebook has been exposed for over the past few years – it’ll be even harder to launch a business opportunity social network now more than ever.
Facebook has the “social” social network niche cornered, there’s no question about it. Yet there are other players in the social network space.
If we look at these companies (Twitter, Instagram, SnapChat, Pinterest, LinkedIn etc.), they’ve each brought their own flavor to the social network space.
Users have signed up to these networks because they get access to a specific niche within the social network space they can’t get anywhere else (clones launched in their wake aside).
Here WebTalk fails. It’s basically a Facebook clone with aspects of LinkedIn baked in.
Other than making a big hoo-haa about “sharing 50% of our revenue with users”, WebTalk brings nothing new to the social network table.
And that brings us right back to WebTalk’s primary purpose being to pitch its members on advertised products and services.
Again, this is what all social networks do to some extent. But how subtly the goal can exist whilst still delivering a service true to their stated goal is key.
With Twitter that’s communicating to the world directly though SMS-style messaging. In Facebook it’s, essentially, connecting with friends. In Instagram it’s sharing photos organized in a timeline.
Beyond charging for access to its members to advertise to, what is WebTalk’s unique stated purpose?
One look and it is obvious what a farce it could be.
Peoples Web was another.
Fair assessment and we understand most people that see Webtalk feel the same.
We really are trying to create the value proposition to be a better contact management and communication platform. With billions of internet users and billions of more on the way, there is no reason that we shouldn’t be able to create a market share.
None of us thought that this was going to be easy but we are giving it everything we’ve got anyway. There are many problems that I have with Facebook and Linkedin and we tried to solve them.
A couple points to make for clarification, once we hit a critical mass point, we will open the platform. The affiliate program will still exist but Webtalk will not be invite only forever.
The affiliate program was to help us gain traction and capital to build on top of. We had a choice to get there, raise millions of dollars from investors (if that would even be possible) so we could advertise the value of Webtalk to gain users or we could share our revenue with the early adopters to gain users and revenue.
Webtalk and the affiliate program are free and always will be. You can not “buy” your way into our affiliate program because we didn’t want a pay to play scammy system.
Believe it or not, we are trying to build a useful and successful company. Yes, it’s been a long journey and we know we still have a long way to go but we have a great team of people and we are dreaming big.
I appreciated reading your review and thank you for your consideration. We hope to change your mind over time if you would please log in every once and awhile to check out the updates from RJ’s posts. He truly is a great guy and inspires me daily with his grit, knowledge, and work ethic.
I will paste below the actual affiliate program rules. It is 1 direct level but has a limited time multi-level bonus structure that will help us gain enough revenue to give us serious market penetration.
If you have any questions or advise, please feel free to ask or say what ever you want. We are extremely transparent and just want to build something that people love.
We will be giving access to our corporate site in the next month or two that will list out our company vision in detail.
We do have an office at 650 2nd ave south in St Petersburg FL. Feel free to come visit and meet the team anytime you would like. Take care and good luck with all of your endeavors.
Free Affiliate Program Qualifications:
1. Complete Your Profile- On your Webtalk profile you will find a “Completeness Meter” tool. Once the meter reaches 100% you are qualified to earn a 10% commission from the revenue generated by your direct referrals (1st Level) to Webtalk.
2. Refer 1 PRO Customer- Inside Webtalk, your referrals will be encouraged to upgrade their free accounts to a PRO premium account. When one (1) of your referrals upgrades to PRO, you unlock 10% commissions from each of your 2-5 referral levels for a limited-time bonus.
3. Be in the First 1 Million- The first 1 MILLION to directly refer 1 PRO annual customer OR 1 PRO monthly customer who has billed for 12 consecutive months, you will be granted the 5-level commission plan bonus for LIFE!
Additional Terms & Conditions:
Upon one million (1,000,000) ‘affiliates’ being awarded the 5-level commission plan for life, the levels 2-5 commission plan bonus will be discontinued for all new affiliates, and for all existing affiliates who have not referred a PRO customer by the date the bonus is discontinued.
If an affiliate has referred a PRO monthly customer who hasn’t billed for 12-consecutive at the time the bonus is discontinued, they will still be eligible for the lifetime 5-level commission plan bonus award if and when their PRO customer referral(s) reach 12-consecutive months of billing.
As long as an affiliate retains one (1) or more PRO monthly customers billing for 12-consecutive months, and that customer was first acquired while the bonus promotion is still active, they will maintain their 2-5 referral level commission plan for life.
Considering most MLM companies don’t get anywhere near one million affiliates, isn’t that goal a bit lofty?
For all intents and purposes the MLM plan won’t ever expire.
One thing is certain, the world is getting smaller and our networks are getting larger.
Webtalk is not like a typical “MLM”. We are using only the very best aspect of that business model for only the first 1 million affiliates that qualify.
We do not have weekly meetings and force our affiliates to buy things. We offer a FREE way to network and a FREE way to earn an income. We are a internet company that has a global reach of 4.4 billion active internet users and 3.5 billion were social media users.
When we have 100 million users on Webtalk and only 1 million (1%) of them are earning from a multi level bonus structure, are we really an MLM? What about when we hit a Billion users?
All you have to do is follow the rules above and invite everyone you know before someone else does.
I would also like to clarify something I missed commenting on the first time where this article was mis informed about the amount of Free connections under Webtalk Products above, and also the typo of “enginecpx”.
It’s Social CPX and the FREE users of Webtalk are offered, UNLIMITED followers, 5,000 connections, 50 Advanced CRM Contacts are all included. 5,000 connections are all Personal connections and Professional acquaintance connections. I hope that clears up any confusion this Review created.
There are more Value adds coming soon. Up next after Pro release at the end of the month will be, Pages for Businesses that can act like affiliates to drive traffic to Webtalk, all FREE.
At the end of summer we will launch Social CPX and start paying commissions. Log in and follow RJ’s posts to learn more. Take care everyone and please let me know if you have anymore questions.
EngineCPX is not something I would have just come up with. I would have found it in my research.
Fair enough if it’s been renamed to SocialCPX though, I’ll update the review accordingly.
Yep. McDonalds doesn’t stop being a fastfood joint just because they have more consumers than employees.
Fair enough. We are an MLM forever then.
I’ve been with the company since the beginning and I assure you, I’ve never seen or heard of enginecpx before reading your review. I figured it was a mistake since you got all the other references to Social CPX correct.
I hope you check us out every once in awhile and you end up finding our platform useful.
There are and will be many benefits for non affiliate members. Take care and thank you for the review.
This review is a total scam. Its a Ad acting as a legitimate review..First their English and grammar sucks!!!
Second ‘making billions’ in ad revenue? Bullshit! Barely 3 yrs old and it makes billions like Fckbk? Right!
Mlm scam yes I’d say that’s exactly what it is as it gives you nothing for your money!!!!
Pay them to get them to pay you?! That’s exactly what your doing. They keep 50% of all ad revenue why?
Why don’t they pay on all 100%. They get money from you millions of users lol.
And Ad revenue. And give you a so called opportunity to get paid.
REPACKED MLM. TO AVOID LIABILITY THEY SPLIT THE COMPANY UP. TAKE HEED!
So uh, comprehension not your strong suit then?