Australia’s ACCC sues Lyoness for being a pyramid scheme
It’s not exactly how I pictured easing myself back into blog coverage of the MLM world, but news broke last night that Lyoness are being prosecuted by Australian regulators.
As per their website, the Australian Competitor Consumer Association (ACCC)
promotes competition and fair trade in markets to benefit consumers, businesses, and the community. We also regulate national infrastructure services.
Our primary responsibility is to ensure that individuals and businesses comply with Australian competition, fair trading, and consumer protection laws – in particular the Competition and Consumer Act 2010.
So what’s their beef with Lyoness?
Lyoness International AG, Lyoness Asia Limited, Lyoness UK Limited and Lyoness Australia Pty Limited (together ‘Lyoness’) (are) operating a pyramid selling scheme and engaging in referral selling.
How totally not surprising.
BehindMLM first reviewed Lyoness back in 2012 and the discussion over the legitimacy of the company continues even today. Despite the mountains of smoke and mirrors Lyoness have armed their affiliates with, I’ve maintained that nothing excuses or justifies the Accounting Unit Ponzi scheme Lyoness has buried in its compensation plan.
Stopping short of referring to the scheme as an outright Ponzi (which it obviously is), here’s how the ACCC explain the problematic nature of Lyoness’ compensation plan:
The ACCC alleges that Lyoness has operated the scheme in Australia from mid-2011 and that it continues to operate the scheme. The scheme offers ‘cash back’ rebates to members who shop through a Lyoness portal, use Lyoness vouchers or present their Lyoness card at certain retailers.
Whilst cash back offers themselves are not prohibited by the Australian Consumer Law (ACL), the ACCC alleges that the Lyoness scheme also offers commissions to members who recruit new members who make a down payment on future shopping.
“Pyramid schemes are often sophisticated and may be operated under the guise of a legitimate business. Although these schemes can appear to be legitimate, the most significant inducement for new members to get involved is to earn ‘residual’ or ‘passive’ income from new members signing up,” ACCC Chairman Rod Sims said.
“The concern with pyramid schemes is that the financial benefits held out to induce potential members to join up rely substantially on the recruitment of further new members into the scheme. For these schemes to work so that everyone can make a profit, there would need to be an endless supply of new members.”
The ACCC also alleges that the conduct by Lyoness breached the ACL prohibition on ‘referral selling’, where a consumer is induced to buy goods or services by the promise of a commission or rebate contingent on a later event.
The mention of “down payments” is precisely the AU investment component of Lyoness’ compensation plan that functions as a Ponzi scheme.
Affiliates join Lyoness, invest money directly with Lyoness under the guise of shopping and then receive a >100% ROI once enough new investments have been made by their downline (recruited directly or indirectly via their upline).
Pyramid schemes involve new participants providing a financial or other benefit to other existing participants in the scheme. New participants are induced to join substantially by the prospect that they will be entitled to benefits relating to the recruitment of further new participants.
Pyramid schemes may also offer products or services, but making money out of recruitment is their main aim, and often the only way for a member to recover any money is to convince other people to join up.
In contrast, people in legitimate multi-level marketing schemes earn money by selling genuine products to consumers, not from the recruiting process.
Despite Lyoness’ regulatory issues in several other countries, the ACCC’s action against the scheme is ‘ the first court action taken against Lyoness alleging that the Lyoness Loyalty Program constitutes a pyramid scheme.‘
Whether or not Lyoness was aware or co-operated with the ACCC in their investigation (supplying data etc.) is not clear.
I have heard unconfirmed rumblings from Lyoness affiliates that the AU investment scheme was to be dumped sometime later in 2014, but as of yet nothing has materialized from Lyoness itself.
If the rumblings are to be believed, whether or not they are a direct result of Lyoness being investigated in Australia is also unclear. Ditto whether they were aware of the investigation as to the best of my knowledge absolutely nothing about it has been communicated to Lyoness’ affiliates (Australian-based or otherwise).
What is clear however is the fact that Lyoness seemingly has no local Australian presence is not deterring the regulator:
As Lyoness International AG, Lyoness Asia Limited and Lyoness UK Limited are located overseas, the ACCC will be making arrangements for service on those entities.
The ACCC is seeking declarations, pecuniary penalties, injunctions, an order requiring the Lyoness website to link to the case report and costs.
The ACCC have a pretty solid track record against pyramid schemes and given it looks like they’ve done their homework on this one, I’m tipping this is the end of Lyoness in Australia.
Whether or not other jurisdictions (particularly the US, despite the small affiliate-base there), remains to be seen. Ditto Europe, which holds the bulk of existing AU investment funds but is not a growth market for Lyoness.
Lyoness have recently expedited efforts to break into India and greater Asia as launches in the US and Australia thus far haven’t gained the new investor fund traction they’d likely hoped for.
As for what happens next regarding the ACCC investigation,
The first Directions Hearing in these proceedings will be at 9.30am on 16 September, 2014 before Justice Flick in Sydney.
At this stage no mention has been made of any action taken against Australian Lyoness affiliate investors.
Meanwhile the silence from Lyoness regarding the ACCC investigation, in particular an explanation as to their failure to inform their affiliate base, is deafening.
Update 29th August 2014 – Since the publication of this article, Lyoness have responded to the ACCC’s lawsuit.
The ACCC have also clarified the current status of Lyoness affiliate investors and merchants caught up in the scheme:
Individual members and the retailers themselves — some of whom had been encouraged to recruit new members — would not be targeted by the ACCC.
It’s worth noting that most participants in MLM or Ponzi or pseudo-MLM scams have no idea what “referral selling” is, and how it’s illegal, yet so many MLMs use it.
Basically, “find X friends who also buy the product and your product’s free” is referral selling, and it’s basically pyramid scheme, because it fits the Koscot test: you pay into the scheme (you paid for the product), and you are compensated (getting the refund) contingent on recruiting additional ‘buyers’.
Off top of my head, I seem to recall both Solavei and Vemma have such programs.
Article updated with news of Lyoness’ response and clarification by the ACCC as to where affiliate investors and merchants stand.
In the financial world they refer to this as Headline Risk. I have always believe Lyoness was nothing more than a “complex” pyramid scheme and would eventually get shut down, IMO.
The top moneymakers get paid most of their money WHEN OTHERS PAY THE UPFRONT INVESTMENT.
I would think the Securities and Exchange Commission would find issue with this type of pay plan too.
Plus, where are the retail customers?
Lyoness has yet to gain any real momentum in the US market. And, this most recent HEADLINE will not help in their attempt to attract other investors.
Not sure whats so complex about it. They dont “sell” anything but discount shopping and the majority of the commissions paid are from the investment.
Yes they try to hide it but any idiot knows that there are very few orders being placed by real customers. Why the HELL would I want to walk around with a pocket full of discount cards when I can just price compare online and get better cash back from other places.
Austrian MP’s had recently issued a list of 24 questions to Ministry of Justice, requesting update on how criminal cases and investigations begun on 2011 progresess.
Here it comes, directly from Austrian parliament website:
http://www.parlament.gv.at/PAKT/VHG/XXV/J/J_02315/fname_362303.pdf
(Ozedit: Above link is in German, Google Translate English)
The answer from the Ministry should be known in 2 months.
As the doc title is : “Lyoness – the neverending story?” I hope the answer will begin with “No.” 😉
Well, I’m not sure why some folks are of the mind that Lyoness is not gaining traction in the US. They hit 100K members over 6 months ago and they have all kinds of events in the US, including their big Sensation fiasco in Las Vegas in February.
It will be interesting to see if the SEC and/or FTC will be inspired to act now that Australia is going after them. I sent the SEC the notification that Australia is prosecuting Lyoness so they know…
Oh, FYI, Lyoness can claim they now sell “something”. They sell their Lyconet nonsense package….ironically, to peddle their Ponzi scheme.
I believe the US is mostly made up of a handful of merchants mass-recruiting their customers. That’s about it.
As a business opportunity it launched years ago in the US and flopped. Has been stagnant for some time now.
Lyoness only seems to catch on in the EU (likely due to the same group of top promoters being able to push it in countries of close proximity to eachother).
I’m not sure if attempts to introduce it to India went anywhere. Their greater Asia campaign went quiet pretty fast.
An affiliate package != a retailable product.
Oz,
To your point, Lyoness America is not just a handful of merchants signing up people. Many of the members signed up before Lyoness had many American merchants onboard (which is why their claim “It’s all about shopping” is a joke”.
I have met many of the most successful members in the US and they signed up many people out of the gate. It appears that they continue to gain traction in the US…..people are desperate and when confronted with the Lyoness lie of wealth (a la Rik Wahlrab/President’s team member) they find it hard to resist.
And the Lyoness scheme is so complicated most people will never understand it.
Bit of a wait on this one –
Was mentioned in an article discussing Aspire, a ex-Lyoness investor’s cashback scheme that launched in April 2013, has been paying commissions but only just launched the cashback component.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/small-business/aspire-loyalty-scheme-under-investigation-by-consumer-watchdog/story-fn9evb64-1227093845943
Today, Austrian authorities have frozen Hubert Friedl’s assets as part of a criminal investigation. It was posted on the Austrian governments website. Finally, it’s time to get this criminal.
I’ve seen the German links which lead to a forum. I’ll try to take a closer look at this after I’m done writing my current article.
It’s on my radar, I’ll see if I can get anything official.
Oz I can provide you with the link if you need it
Please do. Not having much luck trying to track it down myself.
lyoness-geschaedigte-plattform.at/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3524&sid=ff42a7e10fac95947afdbcf0d75e743e
Yeah that’s the German translated stuff I was talking about. Waiting to see something more official before I put anything to paper.
The order seems a bit random, so I’d be looking for some backstory – which hopefully official sources can provide in time.
Hold the Presses!
As if the business of MLM’s is not insidious enough, get a load of this:
KevinThompson, MLM attorney has just announced the hiring of Kevin Grimes for his law firm.
This might be meaningless except Kevin Grimes is being sued by the ZeekRewards receiver for knowingly promoting a scheme that has now been shutdown by the SEC.
Mr Grimes also allegedly provided compliance training for Zeek For which he was paid.
Of more interest is that Kevin Grimes also provided compliance training for Lyoness as Grimes represented Lyoness according to MLM schill Troy Dooley. It’s worth noting that Dooley is on the payroll of Lyoness. Dooley was also spanked by the SEC.
WOW, wonders never cease do they?
Low much do you want to wager that Grimes will bring his Lyoness connection with him to Thompsons law firm …a nice payday, right.
The addition of Lyoness should dovetail nicely with Thompsons client Biddify who some compare to Zeek.
@Oz
The background story is fairly easy to trace, if one’s been following the story in the Austrian press. The Austrian Economic and Corruption Prosecutors (WKStA) have been investigating Lyoness for years now, and now, they have finally concluded their investigation.
They have decided to charge Hubert Freidl with several criminal offenses, all related to him running a pyramid scheme. Awaiting his criminal trial, they have asked the court to freeze Freidl’s available assets, and the court granted this order.
While the translation is obviously made by a non-native German speaker, the excerpts from the court documents are authentic. Austrian victims and their attorneys can purchase a CD from the Austrian DoJ containing all official documentation on Lyoness.
Unfortunately, this documentation is not made publicly available by the authorities. This might explain why Austrian media haven’t picked up the story yet; recently, they’ve been quite tame anyway.
The legal issues Lyoness encountered in Norway, Sweden, Poland, and Australia were also never reported. So far, Freidl’s trial and the freezing of his assets have thus only been reported by local critics/victims.
Other news that might be of interest is that the Czech police started an investigation of Lyoness and that the legal department of MasterCard stated that it has no cooperation with Lyoness, let alone that Lyoness has received its authorization to issue MasterCards.
Thanks for filling in some blanks Wiggy.
Not being a native German-speaker and with no publicly available court-documents and/or media reporting makes this a difficult story to follow.
@ Wiggy
Nice info thx…..one question though. It appears that the Lyoness MasterCard is coming with a week yet MasterCard? Claims they have partnership with Lyoness?
I agree, and I doubt it’s all coincidence. I mean, not a year ago, all major Austrian newspapers were reporting lots of much smaller developments in the Lyoness case. Now, nothing.
Lyoness seems to play a similar trick to pretend affinity with MC as they’ve played with all the large merchants they’ve pretended affinity with in the past.
My best guess is they’ve found a legitimate re-seller/issuer of branded/personalized MasterCards, and are in that way able to provide MasterCards wirh a Lyoness logo on there.
MasterCard denies that they cooperate with Lyoness in anyway, and say Lyoness has no right to claim any cooperation, let alone to issue MasterCards.
Yeah, don’t forget these are the guys that misrepresent buying giftcards as entering into partnerships with companies…
@Oz
Indeed they are. It is exactly that insinuation, the idea of cooperation with big companies like Microsoft and Apple, that has made many people believe that Lyoness provided a safe investment.
It’s strange but YouTube has a number of full blown Lyoness MasterCard commercials
Wonder what MasterCard would say to that….
Wonder
It’s very easy to buy such gift cards, esp. if you represent yourself as a giftcard seller. here’s such a vendor:
incentivecardlab.com/
@ScamKiller99
The biggest tip-off for people who don’t feel like contacting MC themselves is that – to my knowledge – you can find tons of information about the ‘Lyoness Prepaid MasterCard’ from Lyoness-related sources, but none from MC-related sources.
What people should also understand is that even if Lyoness were to partner with MC, which they don’t according to MC, that Lyoness provides a solid business opportunity.
@K Chang
Indeed. If we’d pay enough, we could all have ‘BehindMLM Prepaid MasterCards’ by the end of the week. If Oz then were to think of a system to track each card, he would be able to give us cash back on our purchases.
You gotta give to them, though, they’re pretty creative that way. Next to the giftcards Oz mentioned, they also used affiliate marketing programs to offer discounts at a wide variety of reputable web shops, which I believe was quite unique when they started doing that.
It’s interesting to note that none of the Lyoness cheerleaders have responded to the news Friedl’s assets have been frozen….
Perhaps they are shell shocked:-)
They don’t bring in enough revenue unless done in HUGE bulk. The “buy account unit” brings in cash directly (and participants don’t have to do so much shopping).
IMHO, it’s merely a disguise.
Lyoness is working very hard to keep this information private – they continue to file lawsuits against people publishing such information online.
@K Chang
Of course it is merely a disguise. But the fact that Lyoness actually pays out discounts, makes people believe:
* There is in fact a shopping community that brings in (most of the) revenue
* That Lyoness indeed has partnerships with all these big companies
In that sense, it was very profitable to set up a system where affiliate marketing programs and gift certificates were used to provide people with (small) discounts.
According to local sources, the Austrian court case is postponed until later cause the court wants to hear more witnesses first.
Also, Lyoness has managed to have the court forbid Platform Lyoness to publish more court documents from this case.
It appears that there may be trouble in Paradise. One of the big players in Lyoness America sent out an email today stating she was no longer part of Lyoness.
It appears that Lyconet is confusing and there are few answers to the questions many Lyoness look aid drinkers have.
Email text is below:
Nice huh ….she signs up thousands of people and then takes her money and bolts.
One interesting comment: “sorry, I don’t have access to that information”. Lyoness Presidents team member who can’t answer questions about Lyconet?
Where does the stupidity end?
The ACCC takes on Lyoness Monday Week (27th of July) for allegedly being Pyramid scheme. The question is: Have Lyoness Met Their Match? It’s going to be very interesting to see the outcome.
Here is one members views 🙂 .youtube.com/watch?v=aV01xNflmOk
Lyoness update since nobody has added to it.
All charges by ACCC were thrown out of court by the judge.
Lyoness 1 skeptics 0
not sure if i can post the link to the decision but here it is anyways.
accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-finds-lyoness-scheme-not-pyramid
Charges weren’t “thrown out”, the ACCC stuffed up the case.
They tried to make it about the Ponzi scheme at the last minute, instead of focusing on that from the get go.
The ACCC’s conduct of the case was pretty cringeworthy to read in the Judge’s decision.