Grilling Lifepath Unlimited’s Breakthrough: Firewalk
Firewalking has been around for thousands of years and has been undertaken for mostly religious and medicinal reasons. In the modern era it has also been used for motivation and in the arena of personal development.
The centrepiece of Lifepath Unlimited’s three day personal development conference Breakthrough is the uninspiringly named ‘FireWalk’. In Firewalk attendees of Breakthrough are invited to walk across a bed of heated coals.
Personal development or flashy gimmick?
The science behind firewalking is much less impressive then the mental imagery the name conjures up. Wikipedia explains that
When two bodies of different temperatures meet, the hotter body will cool off, and the cooler body will heat up, until they are separated or until they meet at a temperature in between.
The rate at which this happens for either body depends on what the body is made out of and how thermally conductive it is.
Humans are made up of 70% water and water have an inherently much higher heat capacity and thermal capacity then that of coal. The combination of these two ratings mean that when walking over coal our feet are likely to change less then that of the coal.
In addition to this when walking over coals we are moving quickly and dispersing the heat transferred, that and our blood circulation also helps to carry heat away.
Finally as the coals temperature drops as we walk over them they eventually reach a ‘flashpoint‘ which means that no new heat is being generated. As firewalking events tend to be done in large groups you can imagine that it doesn’t take very long for the coal in use to reach flashpoint and become relatively cool.
Aside from the imagery conjured up and feeling like we’re literally walking on fire there isn’t really all that much personal development to fire walking. Anyone can do it and absolutely nothing in your mindset is going to change the scientific principles that come into play as you participate.
By all means enjoy firewalking as something fun but lets not pretend it’s some gigantic personal development milestone shall we?
Any update on Joe Neid? Rumor has it the head of Lifepath left his partner of 20 years, Gail, for someone else. What is it with these heads of personal development companies? They are in Fiji this week.
I’ve yet to familiarise myself with the ins and outs of Lifepath (work in progress) so personally I don’t know. I imagine, like Polaris, the more I write about Lifepath the sooner we’ll get some insiders within the company willing to share information.
BehindMLM was only launched last weekend so it might take a month or two.
Joe Neid left his common law wife of 20 years for his executive assistant.
I’m interested in hearing more about Wealth Masters International, too. Their whole Conspiracy Against Your Money angle is just strange.
I think we should note that leaving your wife isn’t neccesarily a bad thing. People are welcome to break up their marriages at will.
What’s important is they aren’t cheating on their spouse before deciding to separate.
I’ll get around to penning some stuff on them eventually. Behind MLM is going to be a work in progress for a while now to come.
What are former LLI-consultants doing now?
“WMI makes a lasting impact in Australia”
http://www.wminow.com/Press.aspx?ID=elieng
“… WMI Consultant of the Month, Jerry Smart who served as Master of Ceremonies.”
“… a host of WMI’s Australian based Consultant’s including Linda Lashin, Sue Smart, Cameron and Tanya Outridge and Mark and Cristi Willis.”
The lashin’s are doing AVANT or Giveopp i think now- funny cuz it wasn’t that long ago they were sprouting about how amazing WMI is and how amazing the company and leaders are- i think they were ‘grandfathered’ in at some leadership level when they joined WMI. But now….. same shit different wrapping…
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Here is a little off-topic information – for companies that probably are pyramids or scams – originated in Europe but tries to be “worldwide”:
Enigro / Unaico / Site Talk:
Norwegian and Swedish pyramid, active in Asia, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia, 130,000 members. I link to Norwegian reviews (use Google translate for yourself):
http://www.dn.no/forsiden/article1916530.ece
http://www.dn.no/privatokonomi/article1917058.ece
The Norwegian lottery authorities published a warning against Enigro in July 2009, so business has been more focused on other countries.
KB Gold:
Another pyramid coming or have come to Australia are “KB Gold” / “KB Edelmetall” / “KB Precious Metal” – a German-Swiss networking company that started to be active in the Scandinavia in March 2010. The details here are currently unknown to me, but I checked some things that imply that this is a pyramid or scam.
This was chosen because:
– Promoted by well-known pyramid leaders (network participants) in Norway
– Misleading description: claims to have 16 years experience
– Misleading description: claim they have their own gold mine in Turkey
– Produce their own gold certificates (gold ownership certificates)
These were examples. There are many signs that suggest that this is fraud, but I know too little detail to be able to say what types of fraud. Consider this tip as an early warning – KB Gold seems to be “up&coming”.
Gold mine in Turkey appears to be only a license to explore for minerals in an area, purchased for less than 2 years ago. They probably have 16 years experience with networks, but only two of these years has to do with gold. They seem to have used these two years to build up a story that looks real. The 14 years earlier was described as “pension funds and investments”.
Wow move over America, looks like Europe wants a cut of the action!
Joe Neid:
This is the story of Joe Neid. This is the man running the personal development company Life Path Unlimited.
1st marriage cheated she left him.
He played on an Ice Hockey Team in Illinois — Stopped playing hockey because he stole 5,000 from the hockey team’s bank account. These men were his friends that he grew up with. Ask Joe Neid if he has friends from his childhood. The answer is no.
Then Joe opened a business as an insurance agent. He was charged with insurance fraud – cannot write insurance in the state of Illinois He was taking money and not giving people their policy and he lost his license. Wow he is honest right?
Then Joe moved on to Global Prosperity, a company he was involved in off shore investments . Joe worked closely with Steve Moreland and JW Zidar who are in jail. The reason Joe isn’t in jail is because he testified against them in Grand Jury
He had the FBI chasing him around and he was hiding from the FBI. Litterly hiding in his home and ducking down
He then went to work for the company Liberty League. They fired him. You ask why?
He was taking money in the back end from their event planner Karen Gill and from the guy doing the telesminar for the company. He was stealing money from the vendors when making tons of money from the company and thats why he was fired. Never enough for Joe he must continue stealing like he has his entire life.
Joe has not paid taxes in over 20 years. He has an armed IRS agent after him.
Now Joe runs Life Path Unlimited. I guarantee he will take that company down. I am sure he is stealing from it, he is a thief.
2nd relationship with Gail cheated with the LPU secretary Joy Elizabeth. He left Gail broke and on food stamps.
This is the man running Life Path Unlimited. Hope you enjoy Joe Neid’s words of wisdom. These are just the facts people. Look them up yourself. No exaggeration at all!
So how come the IRS hasn’t gotten Joe yet if this has been going on for so long? It’s not hard to find him especially if you show up to a Lifepath Unlimited event. They were live in Scottsdale in August and will be in Puerto Rico this month.
Does anyone else believe that Patrick Combs is no longer involved with LifePath Unlimited? He is missing and now operating his newly formed Might Club.
Patrick Combs left Lifepath Unlimited. For those of you that don’t know, Patrick Combs was one of the founders. Too much trouble brewing at Lifepath Unlimited and I guess he thought it was time to pack it in.
Ok, I have been reading all comments for a while. I have PROOF that everything being said about Joe Neid is false. This information you have been reading, is from an angry ex girl friend Gail Reidy, who by the way, was with Joe Neid for only 6 years, and according to the court documents, she got everything!
Joe did not leave her for his assistant, this is a lie. And a former LPU associate Harold Roylo, who refused to take the Discoveries Series course and demanded a refund, he was turned down by LPU because he did not take the course as he agreed to, when he acknowledged the terms and conditions set forth by LPU, this was affirmed by the Arizona Attorney Generals office when they denied his request for relief… (Remember I have Proof).
In regard to Patrick Combs. Joe Neid & Dave Mackenzie have known each other for a long time (more than 10 years), and they hired Patrick Combs to be the voice of the Awakening movie, which had already been created and produced by only Joe and Dave. Patrick whined for more, so out of courtesy and being the fantastic guys that they are, “called” Patrick a “Co-Founder”, as a social courtesy.
In fact, by the time Patrick arrived on the scene, Joe & Dave had been in business with the LPU idea for nearly a year. They had already raised more than one half million US dollars. The name LPU had already been copy written, and the names and the products had already been established… Patrick was number 6 on the list to be a luminary on the Discovery series, which was already being produced. When Patrick was called by Joe & Dave they were in the studio making the Discovery series.
Patrick was never a Co- Founder. Joe and Dave, being the great guys that they are, extended the courtesy of “Co-Founder” to Patrick. I am witness, Joe and Dave have only said good things about Patrick. I know from watching the social media sites that Patrick is currently saying untruths to get your attention, my feeling is he is going to blackmail LPU with lies to get something… Patrick claims to be a Personal Development Guru? Who is he really?
In regards to Gail Reidy, she is dangerous and I have copies of restraining orders and court documents that I obtained from the Maricopa County Court House, stating that everything she has been saying is lies.
Everything that I have been saying is public information, and can be obtained, if you do the work, like I have done.
I had an email request from Joe Neid requesting a phone call conversation to discuss what he claims are ‘factually false’ bits of information floating around here about him.
Then I see someone who claims to have evidence has co-incidentally joined the discussion, publishing about Joe Neid in the third person. I sincerely hope this isn’t one and the same person.
I sincerely suspect that it may indeed be one and the same person.
It certainly is great to see that this excellent blog reaches into the furthest depths of what some people see as a number of extremely dubious business opportunities.
Maybe the proponents of these opportunities will pick up some tips on what the rest of the community considers to be ethical business behavior.
This is “The Real” Joe Neid, It seems there is a lot of inaccurate discussions about my personal life and LifePath. I would like to clear up all of these inaccurate and untrue discussions and thinking. LPU is a good and honest company.
If you have any questions about LPU and my personal life, please contact me at 480-361-5520 and I will be happy to give you any proof that you may require to clear up these false accusations.
If you’re happy to give up ‘any proof‘ that might be required to clear up any false accusations made in this discussion, why not just provide them here?
Why the need to call upon individuals to make a phone call to you personally?
You want to know why? Because a phone call is not anonymous meaning it is much easier to track down your information. Also, a phone call does not put this issue into the public forum and keeps things much quieter.
PS: Joe’s real name is Joe Niedospial. It is all over the internet.
I found that Joe and Dave look like their about to embark on another business adventure together (or use it for tax evasion/non payment purposees, who knows): http://starpas.cc.state.az.us/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/officer-detail.p?corp-id=R16384262
While I think this (and any company of this sort) is sketchy due to the mob mentality they take to complete sales,it is also the responsibility of each person to have their own brain and do the due diligence.
While he may not be paying taxes for 20 years – that is the benefit of owning your own business – your corporation does that (after write-offs, etc). Joe, as an individual, may very well not claim any income (smart for him, its called protection).
‘The Golden Wheelbarrow’ huh? Wonder what on Earth that is about.
Funny name for an MLM company if that’s what it is.
Looks like a civil war is brewing at LifePath. This is beginning to remind me of the recent Liberty League civil war that ultimately destroyed the company. The “real Joe Neid” is here now posting.
Look what his co-founder and partner is saying on facebook. Very interesting to say the least.
http://www.facebook.com/patrick.combs/posts/180531071976233
Any chance of getting a screenshot or copy and paste?
I’m getting this message if I try and view the link;
I assume Combs removed the information or Lifepath made a complaint (?).
Good point, insider. Back in March 2009 in Acapulco at a Liberty League conference people asked, “Where’s Brent?” (How odd for a co-founder of the company to not be at the conference when he is the guy on the DVD’s). The “corporate” response was he’s pursuing his passion of music. (People behind the scenes learned of the troubles that had been brewing between Brent and Shane).
Fast forward. Lifepath has a conference November 2010 in Puerto Rico. “Where’s Patrick?” Similar “corporate” response.
When the guy on the package (in Liberty League, Brent, in Lifepath, Patrick) of the product being sold suddenly goes away, you cannot sell that product to new people without having to explain what happened to that person).
It is the beginning of the end, especially with all of the rumblings about Joe Neid. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Joe Neid was seen carrying box after box down the Lifepath Unlimited office stairs Sunday Jan 2nd at 7:30 pm.
Why the heck would he be emptying his office out at that time of night on a Sunday? Maybe he’s hiding something. No doubt that he is one shady dude.
More importantly, why was someone watching Life Path Unlimited’s office at 7:30pm on a Sunday?!
Is someone stalking Neid and/or LifePath?
Curious minds want to know!
Now someone is spying on the office or Joe Neid! Wow, it’s going to be impossible now not to watch this ship sink. It’s just gotten too damn interesting.
I was at LLI when Joe Neid was fired. According to Brent and Shayne, they fired him for stealing money and setting up back end deals that benefited him financially. Add to this his recent court admission that he hasn’t paid or FILED taxes like the rest of us in TWENTY years, and you get the picture of a guy that is just plain greedy and unscrupulous.
Fortunately, his current company LifePath Unlimited is in obvious serious trouble. You know it’s not working when one of the co-founders leaves. Usually people leave to avoid the fall out of the coming crash. Hopefully the real reason he left will surface.
You also know its a sinking ship when and all the best sales leaders keep leaving. So far these top associates have come, not liked something, and left for greener pastures: Michael Hamburger, Wendy Stevens, Lehman Haily, Alan Nettles, Jason Bryn, Jenn Lawlor, JT DeBolt and just about everyone they had leading in Australia including Theo who went over to WMI with Hamburger and Haily. Who’s next, Jeremy Miner? The Swans? Co-founder Dave Mackenzie?
For anyone even thinking about buying a ticket to board this Titanic, do yourself a favor and look over the videos the company posts about their live events. Looks like attendance at every live event is getting smaller and smaller. LifePath Unlimiteds last event looks like attendance at a bad high school dance. 50 people tops, I’d say.
Perhaps that explains why LifePath hasn’t put on their Destiny event in a year and a half, even though its advertised as an annual event. No fun to through a big party and have only 10 people there. Doesn’t suggest the right winning image.
Hopefully someone goes to jail for this collassol rip off in the end.
I consider an update of the pyramid family tree:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_faiAkxKZKQs/TJZIrwMUVNI/AAAAAAAAACg/RHyTTgeNegw/s1600/Faraos+slektstre.png
Where should I add Lifepath Unlimited to the tree?
I was at the last LifePath Unlimited’s breakthrough event and I had a room not far from Joe Nied’s suite.
I heard him on 2 occasions berating his wife Joy. He was screaming and cussing at the top of his lungs.
My husband and I decided we would never support Life Path Unlimited again. It was embarrassing, we felt bad for her.
Every other word out of his mouth was F*#K you, over and over. Here was a guy standing on stage talking about personal development and behind closed doors he was rude, aggressive, berating, it was terrible.
I am refraining from stating my name I fear Joe Nied he is not a good man.
I have personally been on the receiving end of Joe Neid’s rude communication habits. It is my opinion that he is a huge hypocrite.
It’s no surprise that less people are attending the LifePath Unlimited events. With a leader like that who wants to hang around him. Just google his name and you will see many people with complaints about him, dating back over 6 years.
@B.F.
Lifepath stemmed from Liberty League if I’m not mistaken. Following that you had quite the viciousness between distributors from the two companies from memory.
I really love the teachings of LifePath Unlimited. I think Patrick Combs is so inspirational.
After reading these posts I must say this, If Patrick Combs has left LifePath then they lost the best thing they had. I’ve attended a Breakthrough event and Joe Neid babbles on stage and makes little to no sense.
Not wanting to be rude but he is a big fat, sweaty, babbling dude. His past is very shady. 10 minutes on the internet and I can’t imagine anyone signing up with LIfePath.
I wish I had done my due diligence before buying a breakthrough ticket. I bought under Lehman Haley who is now with Wealth Masters. Super nice dude but he too can’t stand Joe Neid. Anyone with any real integrity has jumped ship.
If Joe Neid is the leading the company now I would run as fast as you can.
Hey real “Joe Neid” why don’t you list a phone number where people can call you? He’s never in the office and GOOD luck getting him to return a message.
Hey real “Joe Neid” are you saying that EVERYTHING on the internet about you is a lie? People have been posing since 2005 about you and EVERYONE is being untruthful? I seriously doubt that.
People, don’t you see the writing on the wall? Why would anyone want to be involved with such a person? Insider AZ if Neid was carrying boxes out of the office on a Sunday night you can BET that he is hiding something.
The way this man lies and cheats and hurts people and skips around like he is so good is wrong in so many ways I have know him for over twenty years and have hard proff we will see joe ps should i start posting all my proff???
@good one, please post your proof. People need to learn the real truth. So many people put their trust in this man Joe Neid. They think he is of high integrity. They have no idea that they are being taken by a con man with a terrible past.
Looking forward to seeing your truth.
Lifepath Unlimited has some really good people in it. Drew Ines, Brian and Rhonda Swan and the Firestones are great folks. They must be brainwashed by Joe Neid. I am shocked to no end that they follow Neid.
I’ve heard that Patrick Combs has left Lifepath and that was the only good guy at the top. Following a guy like Neid is risky and out of integrity.
Lifepath’s founder Patrick Combs left the company. There is a by by Patrick tribute on the LifePath blog. It is not a rumor anymore. This company is history.
How do the Reps market a product where the main guy left? Is it really surprising knowing that Joe Neid is at the helm? He’ll drive this ship into the ground sooner than later.
oh yes, my friends his day will come i will let you know where to find the real truth,his happy dance is up watch how fast the town tramp will be gone enjoy fat joe no more hurting or stealing or cheating the good people.
by the way doctor of truth none of the things miss reidy has said has been proven not true and come to my house i have all the famley photos to show how many years almost twenty there first date as well he must be telling you one of his jucy lies he does that alot,as for her getting everythng wrong she gave back the home to the bank in june she lived in with him in.he took off with the phone girl miss reidy hired saying nothing was going on ah now there married and live bigger house than he had before he tells the courts he has no money to give her we will see it seems you are a bad doctor get your facts stright doctor of bs ha!
Being a former Leader at LifePath Unlimited I feel I can give an honest and informed opinion of LifePath Unlimited. My honest opinion is that a lot of good leaders have come to LifePath Unlimited and left because something is wrong with the company, the business model and its CEO Joe Neid. Here’s a list of some of the people (including you JT) who have come to LifePath Unlimited, earned the title of a LifePath leader but left anyway. All of the following LifePath Unlimited leaders left (including me. I left because no one I sold to could duplicate and ended up losing money and Joe Neid gets old really fast).
Tina Fields
Michael Hamburger
Lehman Hailey
Jenn Lawlor
Jason Bryn
Terry Dorland
Alan Nettles
Debra Maute
Theo van der Merwe
Brandon Boshnack
Lisa Laternou
Kimberly Mason
Mary Gannon
Mark Lollback
Christy Snape
Sandy Hagopian
Judy Garey
Judith Shuttleworth
JT Debolt
Carol Douthitt
Beau Reed
Judith Shuttleworth
Nathan Packonowski
Emily Amanda Reed
Dean Perrone
Wendy Stevens
I’m happy to be out of LifePath Unlimited and I can’t recommend it to anyone seeking
a legitimate business.
You left off LPU Co-Founder Patrick Combs mate
Run people, run from LifePath Unlimited. This company is coming down. Mark my words this is the calm before the storm.
Joe Neid is not the man he pretends to be on the phone calls.
LifePath Unlimited has a BBB rating of F.
With Joe Neid aka Joseph Niedospial, President is anyone really shocked?
Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of F on a scale from A+ to F.
http://www.bbb.org/central-northern-western-arizona/business-reviews/business-opportunity-companies/lifepath-unlimited-in-carefree-az-97028993/#rating
So, for someone interested in this opp, it seems all hands are pointing to a big fat NO! For the leaders that are left, like the Swans, why do they remain?
Joe Neid is the biggest scam artist ever. Those associates selling Lifepath Unlimited’s products should be ashamed of themselves.
Has anyone noticed that they STILL haven’t announced the date for Destiny? Joe’s new nickname should be Joe Greed.
I am facebook friends with one of the Lifepath Unlimited Luminaries:
Look at her facbook post:
Deanna Latson
I want to be very clear- I do NOT support Lifepath Unlimited any longer & I will never be at one of their events. They are not the type of company that I wish to associate with. I am sorry if this offends some LPU folks but my experience was not a positive one with the leaders of the company. I know there is confusion for new associates because I am on the product. If you seek specifics I will gladly provide them.
— Honestly why would ANYONE join this company??
not six years or angry ex girl friend ,if you trust them you are next fool!
Ok, I am laughing my ass off here. I have known Joe Neid for a LONG time. Back in his Chicago days when we played ice hockey together. I decided to look the guy up and wow was I shocked to see what he was up too.
He was a scam artist 20 years ago and it looks like he’s up to his same old business.
The poor fools who follow Joe Neid as the leader of a personal development company are in for a real shock one day when they find out what a thief he is. It’s so dam funny that he’s running a personal development company called Life Path Unlimited. Who are the dummies that follow this thief?
He stole $5,000 from his “friends” on our hockey team. The thief took it right out of our team bank account.
If you think this guy has turned over a new leaf your in for a shock. Joe Neid is likely the same thief he was 20 years ago.
Best of luck you Life Path Unlimited people. You might want to take a hard look at your leader.
Jeremy Miner – LPU’s number one sales guy has left. You know the company is in trouble.. Here is his Official Announcement:
Hmm probably not the smartest move going over to Wealth Masters right now.
What with WMI just having being banned for being a pyramid scheme in Norway and all.
Are the Firestone’s next?
I like how this guy is going to save the world 🙂
It’s a huge deal when an MLM’s “number one sales guy” leaves… if he was their number one sales guy. You don’t leave when you’re making huge sums of money.
There it is. He gets a title and a salary.
Who doesn’t want security, a guaranteed monthly paycheck? The prestige inherent in an authentic title? “Vice President” instead of “Platinum Nuclear Qualified Consultant/Advisor” or some such thing. His own parking space. Office. Expense account – he probably won’t have to use his own money to market anymore.
Smart move on his part. The heavy hitters in his downline should try to negotiate something similar. After all, the work that they’ll do and people that they bring in should benefit themselves as much as it benefits him.
NEW GENERATION OF ENTREPRENEURS FLOCKS TO INDUSTRY LEADER
Tony Rush and Gene Braxton?!?
What’s that now, three MLM companies in less than twelve months?
Tony Rush, Gene Braxton and that Hamburger chappie, its Liberty League revisited
In my experience, most MLMers are serial MLMers. They justify their fickleness as “moving onto bigger and better things”. What they don’t realize is they are simply working on “denial” and “bargain” phases of the 5 stages of grief. They are addicted to it and they don’t realize it.
Makes me want to puke!!
Seems like WMI has all the momentum. Not really LLI all over again since Brent and Shane aren’t involved. I think Jeremy left LPU because LPU is failing. Who wants to be involved with a company that has less than 70 people at their last event? Plus, LPU’s CEO is a joke.
I’ve also heard rumors that Avant (Brent’s company) is failing as well. Of course all the marketers want to jump ship. Those who are staying must have some big blinders on.
@Rachel
I wouldn’t be too confident in WMI’s apparent momentum just yet.
They were recently kicked out of Norway after the Gaming Board labelled them a pyramid scheme, and I haven’t really heard anything about their nutrition, insurance and finance affiliate programs they were supposed to have launch.
Opes Partners has apparently launched but publicity and marketing has been nil and ‘WMI Health and Nutrition’ was supposed to launch in the first quarter of 2011 (half a month left) and thus far there hasn’t been a peep.
All they’ve done this year really is get banned in one country and have 5 marketers join their team.
What momentum?
Interesting how the “Real” joe Neid is not responding to anything. PS: Patrick Combs left for reasons other than what is being advertised.
And, as someone who has inside knowledge – Miner left because LPU is sinking. And fast.
Mr Neid – if you have so much faith in your company, why don’t you come here and answer some of our questions – put our collective minds at ease.
The questions we are referring to:
-Why you are bleeding leaders?
-Why your co-founder and multiple luminaries have stopped endorsing your products and company?
-Why you try to pass yourself with a name that is not your own?
I have an idea (more than just speculation) that this has to do something with Joe not showing his partners the books and pocketing some extra cash.
I would also encourage everyone to locate former leaders (as former luminaries are bound by an NDA) and inquire why they jumped ship.
Also, after thinking about it – I would encourage everyone to create Facebook accounts (make them realistic folks)… and befriend as many network marketers. As more and more information gets revealed, we will be able reveal the truth about this vile man and his corrupt company.
Hi guys.
I was very close to joining Lifepath before reading this blog and others around at the moment.
I feel disappointed because I really really really liked the look of Lifepath’s products. It seemed like a great company which I could use passionately, and therefore talk to others about passionately.
And then I come across all this stuff about Joe Neid which I spoke to my possible upline about, and it all just smells way too fishy. What I’m reading isn’t just bad reviews, but more like critical signs of a company failing.
I don’t really care about the personal stuff about Joe Neid’s life – everyone makes mistakes. However, when supposively luminaries from the Discovery product are making statements like that – this seriously damages the CORE of the company. The very thing which makes Lifepath live and breathe is being destroyed.
My head wants it all to be ok, however my heart is saying this ship is sinking and I shouldn’t join LPU (which really really sucks because I really like the look of these products).
Does anyone know of other companies similar to LPU (in personal development) with a direct sales component that I could possibly check out??
Sad 🙁
@dissapointed
Not personally no. My advice would be that if you really like the look of LifePath’s product line and have the money, then perhaps purchase it without the buisness opportunity.
Mind you, this is only if you truly believe you’re going to get some value of out LifePath’s product line. That is up to the individual to decide.
Can’t help you there. I find most “personal development” stuff to be psychobabble.
You can find useful stuff for free on TED.com. A little short, but enough of motivation. There’s also a ton of stuff on PBS.
Joe and Gail went to my high school graduation together… in 1998. I don’t know when they broke up, but at that time, they had a house together in Darien, IL with a sweet Maserati.
That was 13 years ago. I just found out that they broke up. Was super surprised to hear about it. She was an ex-Miami Dolphins cheerleader… anyway, I don’t know about the business stuff, but they were together a lot longer than 6 years from my count…
Easy to stay in the game, living off the spoils of dodgy property deals in Pacific Beach, San Diego then hanging out in cheap countries:
http://piggington.com/pacific_beachoooooooouch
They’re either living off the interest from this, or making money doing affiliate marketing online. I’m surprised anyone would pay nearly $15,000 for LPU smoke and mirrors.
If it ducks like a quack….it’s probably a quack. Caveat emptor.
Come to think of it, didn’t Penn and Teller’s Bull**** did an episode about the various personal development psychobabble, including firewalking, break a stick with your throat, smashing boards, and all that ****?
Sadly, I think we should all just cave in and acknowledge that Snake Oil Salesman and Psychobabble Shark are both viable professions in this day and age. So long as there are suckers desperate for hope and looking to “believe,” there will always be organizations like LPU (and others of the same ilk) looking to exploit it.
While sites like this are clearly an oasis of truth, there are many more who will find this info far too late, after they’ve been sucked into the vortex of deceit.
I’m a health professional with a stack of university degrees and a very high profile in my field. I have been approached countless times over the years by MLM pushers selling all kinds of gadgets and potions looking to get my “endorsement” and buy-in (help people while I make money).
I could easily whore out my Dr.title and people would lap up whatever magic Kool-Aid I was pushing. But having a conscience is what separates me from those sociopaths who would knowingly mislead people for the purpose of profit.
If I could just snip that part of my brain that keeps me ethical, I’d be a billionaire right now. Sigh….
You already do what you claim you are avoiding but not with mlm companies. Worse, big pharma.
That big pharma sponsored stack of degrees has you living as a house slave, thinking you are einstein because you are not out on the plantation with the “underslaves”.
Life is not that simple and if you think the only thing stopping you from being a billionaire is your “ethics”, you are dreaming.
@James, looks like you’ve got it all wrong with your snide assumptions. I’ve got a PhD, not an MD, so I am not a pharma whore either (I’m not legally allowed to prescribe).
In fact, quite the opposite, I am vehemently opposed to abject overmedication of every little sneeze and sniffle. Do you have restless leg syndrome? Here, take this pill! Fckin’ tossers in the pharmaceutical industry play a daily hand in corrupting US politics into the circus side show that it’s become.
So before you start making an ASS out of yourself with your ASSumptions, perhaps you’d better consider all the possibilities.
As for ethics and my not being a billionaire, I was merely referring to my lack of desire to make a billion dollars selling dietary supplements etc when I know full well they’re garbage.
Honestly why would anyone want to support LPU? They are getting sued by the ARIZONA GRAND RESORT L L C v. LIFEPATH UNLIMITED INC for not paying their bill. Just look it up -CV 2011-005636
Also, the CEO is being sued for not paying his rent…. GORDON OBRIEN v. JOSEPH NIEDOSPIAL, et al.– CV 2011-014171
He’s being evicted. Honestly who would ever support this company?
Joe Neid is back from the dead? Literally. He’s resurfaced using a new name and with a new pre-launch program called “Bank”. Joe Neid is now Joseph Richard? WTF is wrong with this guy? All one has to do it listen to his radio show to hear it’s him.
GlobalBANKRadio.com
Good job Joseph.
Forget Joe the whole Lifepath is a joke.
I joined and once I begin to go through the sessions, it was apparent from the getgo that the product was only a product to say you have a product. It was totally pitiful.
I asked for a refund which was one of the guarantees but I was refused. It was then apparent to me the whole thing was a scam.