Bon Voyage 1000: Constant recruitment to get paid?
Bon Voyage 1000 launched two weeks ago on July 14th. The company originally caught my eye because it’s being marketed as having originated ‘from the same group that created the Reverse Funnel System‘.
Having just written about a possible resurrection of the Reverse Funnel System (RFS) via GiveOpp, I was naturally curious to see if these claims held any weight.
Unfortunately beyond the marketing claims I have as of yet been unable to clarify whether or not the company was indeed the brainchild of Don Glanville and Ty Coughlin. It is clear though that some Bon Voyage 1000 marketers appear to be employing the Reverse Funnel System itself to sell the newly launched opportunity.
More important then whether or not the RFS is being utilised however was what I learnt about Bon Voyage 1000 itself in conducting my research. At the end of the day I was left sitting here wondering how this business opportunity was even remotely legal.
Bon Voyage 1000 bill themselves as ‘a multinational conglomerate based out of the Caribbean‘ who provide ‘our members with the best lifestyle products and travel services at the best prices available‘.
In short they’re a travel club MLM. You pay a one time fee in exchange for access to Bon Voyage 1000’s lifestyle products and travel services. This should be your first red flag, that the business opportunity revolves around selling access to Bon Voyage’s services rather then actually retailing the services themselves.
The Bon Voyage 1000 “product purchase” as it were appears to be a ‘free’ cruise ‘worth over $400′ to the Bahamas. This is made available to all new members.
To join Bon Voyage 1000 you hand over a one time fee of $349 which makes you a Bon Voyage 1000 cardholder, provides access to their travel services and rewards you with your Bahamas cruise.
The compensation plan you’ll be relying on for commissions however is where the business really starts to fall apart. Bon Voyage 1000’s compensation plan utilises a 2×2 cycling matrix that looks something like this:
As a new Bon Voyage 1000 member you start off at the top of your own 2×2 matrix. This matrix is then filled directly by yourself or your upline. Once full you cycle out and are awarded a flatrate $1000 commission.
After you’ve cycled out you are then cycled into the bottom leg of an existing matrix that hasn’t been filled yet. You then set about recruiting new members and/or relying on spillover from your upline or downline. Spillover can occur when multiple members cycle out at once or when people cycle out of an existing matrix that one of your downline or upline are in.
From the sounds of it the matrices you will cycle into are related to those your upline or downline are in or are a part of.
Additionally there’s a Leadership Matching Bonus on offer too. Once you’ve cycled out of a matrix twice, you’re then awarded $200 each time someone you’ve personally referred cycles out of a matrix. Cycle out of a matrix three times and you’re then awarded $100 each time anyone in your second level (you’re personally sponsored member’s directly sponsored line) cycles out of a matrix.
Whilst it all might sound amazing on paper, the problem here of course is the absolute constant requirement for new recruits to the opportunity. If every existing Bon Voyage 1000 member stopped recruiting new members, the matrices would grind to a halt and nobody would get paid.
The ‘product’ is a one time non-consumable so once you’ve sold someone it there’s zero chance for repeat business. This translates into a never ending recruitment cycle on which commissions are then paid.
This isn’t the first time a travel club MLM that ultimately relies on new member recruitment for people to get paid has surfaced and it probably won’t be the last. Recently TVI Express, a similar travel club scheme that operated on a matrix based compensation plan, was declared a pyramid scheme by Australian authorities.
Approach with caution.
There are a lot of mistakes in this site about Bon Voyage 1000. A closer look will show you that TVI was a scam because: 1) No real product 2) Zero customer service.
Incidentally, the compensation plan was terrible, though definitely the “illegal” part, was no real product, ie: money game.
Quite the opposite with Bon Voyage1000
High Class, High Value Real Product,
First Rate Customer Service
Fast Moving, 2×2 (huge difference between dual 2×3 matrix’s, lol. It’s like comparing an apple with a beer, it’s so different.
So, for those looking, take another look.
The beauty of a one time pay, is that people HATE autoships. This is a highly legal and valuable product. People buy “memberships” of all kinds every day, so the writers comment is “off” there as well.
If you are interested in joining the number 1 Team in BV100, please email me: (email removed)
Thanks~!
David
Hi David,
TVI Express marketed a one time purchase membership to a travel club and so do Bon Voyage. What exactly makes Bon Voyage’s membership product any different to TVI Express’? They might offer different destinations and different pricing points but a travel club is a travel club.
So you cycle a bit quicker, it’s still a revolving matrix that relies on new memberships to cycle. Mechanically different but they are both forced cycling matrices regardless.
You recruit new members and you cycle to receive commissions, both are true of TVI Express’ and Bon Voyage 1000’s respective compensation plans.
The membership might be legal on it’s own, but bundling it with an MLM opportunity that requires people to purchase the membership to receive commissions might not be.
This is exactly what was behind TVI Express and I fail to see how Bon Voyage are any different. Recruit members and get them to purchase travel club membership, recruit enough to cycle in a matrix, get paid when you come out the top and prepare for re-entry at the bottom of a new matrix.
It’s exactly the same.
Wow.. very interesting post and feedback.
I truly believe that BonVoyage1000 is different then TVI Express because of the excellent product offering. When you become a BV1000 member, you do receive something of TRUE value outside of the opportunity.
TVI used a travel voucher. BonVoyage1000 offers a “Lifestyle Card which can save you a lot of money. It is a better product offering then TVI and you do have a much greater chance of cycling.
You are correct, when it comes to talking about constant recruitment for the matrix to keep moving. If everyone could refer two, it would be great. Unfortunately, many do not do ANYTHING, so the active recruiters have to be even more active.
Thanks for your thoughtful commentary. Although we disagree in some aspects, I am always up for a good debate. 🙂
Hey Michelle,
TVI offered a travel voucher as a bonus upon signup. As far as I know their main product was membership to a travel club, similar to Bon Voyage 1000.
And you don’t see this as a problem? How is this remotely sustainable as a business in the long term.
Well, My upline sponsor has made over $8000 in 2 weeks with Bon Voyage.
He told me that the prgogram might last 6 months to a year because eventually it will saturate the market and come to a halt.
To me, it’s a no brainer. You just ride the wave for as long as you can.
If you can walk away with a good $50k it would be better than what you can make in 10 yrs with most of the unilevel programs out there.
Sharkie. That’s like saying, “well my neighbor robbed a bank, and the police didn’t catch him, so I might do that, too because I can make more robbing the bank than working at a bank for six months.”
Obviously this upline of yours is only interested in your wallet and those he can also get his hands on.
the debate regarding the members only international leisure and business travel club – Bon Voyage 1000 is a very interesting one. What it really comes down to is thats its members only, which means its private, which means people make a choice to join and travel.
Earning $1000s on the side by selling memberships is optional. No one is forced to become a member. You can join and never make a dime in the club, but still have unlimited access to your own personal travel agent. huh!
Hello.. do you know how much people pay for travel agents? So for a one time fee to join a travel club and have a personal travel agent i can call anywhere in the world at anytime of the day is a seriously high valued product.
MLM compensation plans are fawned upon, there is nothing anyone can do to change that, no matter how much money anyone makes in any time span.
@sharkie
Uh, and you don’t see a problem with the sustainability of this? What you just described is a money game. Get in, get as many people to sign up before the model becomes unsustainable and then cut and run with the cash.
Wait a couple of months until someone starts up a new MLM company with a similar unsustainable compensation plan and sign up again.
What about all those people that get recruited in the dying days of the company… how, from a business perspective is it even remotely ethical that they are sold on the profit earnings of those who got in early despite it being known the model is not sustainable and there is no way they can replicate the profit earnings of those at the top?
@Johhny Clever
That they do and I’ve got no problem with people joining Bon Voyage 1000’s travel club without the business opportunity attached. What this article is however is an analysis of the business model attached to the travel club. It’s not an analysis of the travel club itself.
The travel club might be feasible as a standalone business operation but the conclusion of my research leads me to believe that the business opportunity (optional or otherwise) is not sustainable.
The few times I’ve looked into using one the service has been free with the agents competing to offer you the lowest prices (they have to compete directly with airlines, other agents and offer the client a cheaper deal then if they were to book everything themselves.
I’m not an expert in the travel agency field but I’d assume rather then slug the customer they were drawing their commissions from the hotels/airlines they were booking you with. At least that’s how it looked whenever I’ve received quotes from them.
I was certainly never advised I had to pay 1000’s just to have access to their services.
As someone who pays up to $25,000 a year for flights and travel, I can assure you that you do not need to pay a club to get the best deal.
BV1000 is very attractive and rewarding company.
There is nothing wrong if you get commissions from recruitments, because in every company you really have to build your team.
The thing that really matters is, if this program is sustainable in the long run.
If only I’m allowed to suggest, every time members uses the card, the sponsor get override commissions. This I believe would be a repeat business and a possible residual income.
I’ll find way to talk to the owners by the end of this week, hopefully they are transparent enough.
This is the worst thing I would ever heard from my sponsor. I wonder why you still joined his team. Now if was able to make $8000, how much you made? None!
Everybody here makes a lot of excellent points. BonVoyage1000 does offer a higher quality product than TVI Express. There is really no comparison on the product end of this. BV1000 comes out the winner here.
The problem with any MLM, network marketing business, or even 2×2 matrix is with duplication. Many people join and do not even do a single thing. Most do not recoup their investment because they expect it to happen without putting in any effort or any time.
In addition, saturation issues due occur and an argument can be made for that. People nowadays are also running from one program to the next, never staying in one business long enough to make any money.
We are left with the ethical issues of mlm and network marketing and anything related to the direct selling industry. Many people such as the one mentioned above who brag that they made $8,000 in their first week make me sort of nauseous. It gives the whole industry a bad name.
Is the world of home business and network marketing, mlm, and 2×2 matrix plans doomed for most?
Are all of these businesses just smoke and mirros, and just downright scams?
My answer is many are, and many are not.And yes, many will fail in these businesses because they have no idea how to market.
However,not doing ANYTHING to grow your business is truly a huge problem in the industry. That in itself, does not make the company a scam.
The actual ethical part of mlm and network marketing is one that is laden with many complexities and many controversy.
Right now I love marketing and meeting new people online and throughout the world.
BonVoyage1000 has been successful for me because I have chosen success through hard work. Does it require a lot of recruitment? Yes, especially when people do not duplicate.
I am finding promoting this business to be fun and enjoyable. And at least I know that if someone purchases a membership, they do receive a comprehensive, highly respectable membership package that is truly worth the money spent on the opportunity.
@Miguel
There’s nothing wrong if it’s but one complmentary factor to a compensation plan, but if it’s the only way to earn a commission then something’s up.
And that’s the problem. Any company that relies on recruitment alone to pay commissions is just simply not sustainable. You can’t recruit people ad infinitum so eventually the business goes belly up, regardless of what token product the business opportunity was attached to.
Residual income would be a start based on actual use of the travel club, however they’d also need to severely reduce the commission on new signups so as to take the focus away from just recruitment.
@Michelle
As a business that relies on recruitment, Bon Voyage could be attached to any product and it wouldn’t make a difference. Bon Voyage as a business opportunity relies on the product of recruitment, rather then use of the travel club product itself.
Whether you use the travel club or not isn’t of any concern to the person selling you the product, all they care about is you joining the company.
The product might be worth using but as a business opportunity, whether it’s useful or of any value or not is irrelevant as members are paid for recruiting others to the company.
Instead of continue arguing on this matter, why not let this be heard by the company owners thru the existing members.
If they are really on the long run and for good as those article claims to be.
or else when another company opens with $2000 per cycle. everyone will jump in to it, and took the top positions and make the majority suffers.
Please stop destroying our wonderful industry. 🙂
I wouldn’t be holding your breath for an official reply… what we’re looking at here is straight up commissions for recruiting people. It’s not like there’s a justification or something that’s been overlooked.
That’s pretty much what happens. Global Resorts Network ran out recruits and TVI Express is under investigation so here we have the Reverse Funnel System being used to advertise another company that only pays out commissions when you recruit people.
How about the LGN Prosperity? the $777 program.
While selling “vouchers” is highly questionable as an mlm product, I have no reason to believe there is anything illegal about selling a high value, one time cost membership. So there is no question there.
Additionally, there is absolutely nothing illegal about a 2×2 recycling compensation plan. In itself, it is a plan that has been used a lot. Often for money games, gifting programs and cheesey “programs”, of course.
To couple what is arguably one of the most high leverage, fastest moving, and attainable compensation plans with such an inherently valuable product, seems like an intelligent thing to do.
If you look at all the compensation plans out there, things come into a little clearer focus. The binary plan is notorious for being the most difficult and hard to duplicate for the average person, and there is major breakage for the company. The chances of getting to a 1-2k a month income for the Average Joe is slim to none.
The unilvel and deep matrix’s are the same. To reach a 1k a month income will take hundreds of people, and are therefore not realistic for any but a few at that top.
Any residual income plan takes repeat sales. Weather that is in the form of new sales or autoships, does not matter. An autoship is a new sale. Granted to an existing “customer” (or more likely distributor), but a new sale none the less.
When people stop wanting their autoship (attrition is massive in nutritional and other monthly type companies), new sales must be made. There is very little difference.
Direct sales companies are different than mlm companies. Bon Voyage 1000, is more like a direct sales/2 level affiliate program than a “multi level” program. Legally, an affiliate program can have two levels, with anything beyond that making it in the “mlm” category.
So, understanding that makes a big difference in the conversation. There is nothing wrong with a one time sale program, and the idea of “saturation” is only true if there is not a stand alone product, which in this case there is.
So, from these considerations, and the valuable imput from many people that have shared their insight and thoughts, my personal conclusion is that Bon Voyage 1000 is absolutely legal on the product and compensation plan level, with no question there.
Additionally, when reviewing all the possible compensation plans out there, a 2×2 is an extremely realistic, attainable, and high leverage plan.
Any company takes work. In BV1000, there is a clear qualification to sponsor 2 for full comissions. (If you sponsor one, you make 1/2 comissions of 500 dollars). The qualification is easy, but prevents free riders, who expect something for nothing.
In a direct sales company like BV1000, you work with your team, to support them and build their team. Without a supportive upline, people are left on their own, but with the right team, people can work together.
One can take any compensation plan, and rip it apart. People can see half full or half empty cups with anything.
The value of the product, the quality of the compensation plan, the integrity of the ownership, and the long term vision of Bon Voyage 1000, makes this an excellent new company, amidst a sea of cheese ball money games, unattainable big matrix’s or binaries, and flash in the pan “programs”.
After the TVI fiasco, this team wanted to do it right, and I believe they have. Interestingly, the reason they are able to have such enormous payouts, is because they have done the right (and rare) thing, to give back some of the breakage to the field.
I think we have real winner here, but I appreciate the skepticism, as it is healthy and important.
That’s how we watch each other’s backs.
Peace,
David
Be in touch anytime If you have any questions. I am really excited about BV1000, I think finally we have found a truly solid company, with real value and a heart!! 🙂
Gday David, thanks for the indepth contribution to the discussion.
As I’ve mentioned previously the problem is in the commission structure. Lets label the product ‘A’ and the 2×2 matrix ‘matrix B’, so as to remove any argument over whether the two are legal or not.
Members of Bon Voyage 1000 are paid out a commission when they sell A. A is a non-consumable (one time purchase) product that entitles the owner to membership of a travel club.
This commission is paid out upon the filling up of matrix B. Matrix B can only be filled up with the recruitment of others and it’s this requirement where I see the problem. Not with the product or the 2×2 matrix, but rather you cannot make any money in Bon Voyage 1000 without directly recruiting others to the business opportunity.
This is a massive flaw in the compensation plan as far as I’m concerned as basic maths shows that there is no room for residual income and eventually the market for a one time purchase product will exhaust itself. Worse still, it will do so at an exponential rate as Bon Voyage grows.
This in my opinion is the dubious part.
This option does not currently exist in Bon Voyage 1000 as the travel club is a one time non-consumable purchase that is valid for the life of the customer. How can you say ‘there’s very little difference‘?!
Then in turn for them to make any money in the opportunity they too need to go out and recruit others.
And saturation exists in any market place, there’s only so many people in the world who are going to buy membership to a travel club and try to sell it to others. The more people that join Bon Voyage 1000 are increasingly marketing to a shrinking market and thus the market exponentially exhausts itself.
After that, due to the fact there’s no way to make a residual income that isn’t based on recruiting others to Bon Voyage, the company collapses.
I really don’t see any difference between TVI Express and Bon Voyage. Both used a 2×3 matrix, both sold membership to a travel club and both only paid out comissions when you filled up your matrix with new recruits.
A couple of quick responses: There are no “two pass up sales”, this is not a two up. You have a huge incentive to help your personals, because they are going to be following behind you over and over again for starters, and you also make a 200 dollar override when they cycle, and a 100 dollar override when their people cycle. So, team work is definitely build into this plan.
Also, you mention “both used a 2×3 matrix”, no BV1000 uses a a single 2×2 matrix, not a 2×3 matrix, huge difference.
The quality of the product is also huge. TVI’s “product” was really vaporware, no one ever produced any real product yet for them. Additionally they had poor to no customer service.
So, if you look at quality of product, quality of compensation plan, quality of customer service, the fact that we don’t use vouchers, that we have a distributor friendly admin and more, make Bon Voyage 1000 a vastly different company and experience than TVI.
Sorry mate got my MLM’s mixed up, burning the candle at both ends here so I apologise. You’re right, there aren’t any pass up sales in Bon Voyage 1000.
Ok so with the override being directly attached to recruitment (you’re downline will not cycle unless they recruit others to the opportunity), all that means is that you’re going to exhause the fixed market capacity for a travel club faster.
Again, sorry about the 2×3 mixup. With a 2×2 though it’s not really that different. All we’re talking here is the difference of 8 extra people, the principle is the same; recruit others and get paid. The only difference in using a 2×2 vs. a 2×3 is that people will cycle faster, increasing the incentive for them to recruit faster once again exhausting the fixed market capacity for a travel club at an increased rate.
All I see here are two key incentives spurring Bon Voyage 1000 members to recruit others faster and thus exhaust the fixed market capacity that exists for travel clubs. It’s not like Bon Voyage are marketing a wonder diet pill that is a recurring consumable, it’s a one time membership purchase – exponentially as the company grows it’s going to be increasingly difficult to find new people to recruit as the baseline out there looking to recruit new members increases with company size.
This is a huge sustainability problem due to the fact commissions are paid on recruitment. More members = more matrices that need to be filled to earn commissions = exponentially more people that need to be recruited to keep everyone paid.
As I tried to stipulate, due to the fact that the use of the travel club is irrelevant and in no way linked to member commissions, in terms of a business opportunity, whether the product is vaporware or not is irrelevant. People aren’t joining the Bon Voyage business opportunity for the travel club, they’re joining on the promise that if they recruit others they’ll get paid large sums of money.
Well, according to your assesment people will join BV1000 for the business opportunity, then your previous mention of “fixed market capacity for a travel club” becomes null and void.
The “market capacity” for BV1000, is not those looking for a travel club, it is those looking for the most powerful, leverage rich, realistic home-based business.
The amount of people who are genuinely searching for a viable, High Quality, Value Driven, High Integrity Company like Bon Voyage 1000 is large.
There is no chance that in the near future, people are going to stop looking for alternative income sources, and quite the contrary…this market is ever expanding.
The fact is that the product that Bon Voyage 1000 has is a self evident, high value product, that has a real market value, and stands alone.
Yet, the fact also remains, that the “market” for those looking for a quality home based business is massive, and there is no chance of saturation for Bon Voyage 1000 or any home based business in the near or mid term future.
Being an international company, the market is expanded ever more so.
Since it just takes a relatively few people to have ongoing success with BV1000, there is every reason that this company could create success for many years for active members who take the ball and run with it.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to contact me anytime. With a quality automated marketing system, and pro upline support, as well as powerful team coops, many of the issues previously experienced by those searching for online success have been solved!
Warm Regards, and have a great week everyone.
David Reid
How can you claim this? The only way people can take advantage of ‘the most powerful, leverage, realistic home-based business‘ is to recruit other people into membership of a travel club.
Are you actually able to join the Bon Voyage business opportunity without purchasing membership to the travel club?
Considering Bon Voyage 1000 launched a month and 4 days ago and that no membership numbers have been publicly released, how can you claim it’s a high value product with market value?
A month for a product to be released is a woefully short time to start making outrageous claims about the supposed market value of something.
Sorry what?
Every market has a saturation point, MLM or otherwise. If we look at Bon Voyage as retailing a business opportunity (remember, that’s the loose definition of a pyramid scheme) then yes, there’s a larger market (but still fixed capacity wise) of people willing to sign up.
If we look at Bon Voyage as retailing a travel club, well then there’s definitely a fixed capacity market for those.
You seem to be sliding that slippery slope of claiming that Bon Voyage are marketing to those looking for a business opportunity whilst in itself to achieve any success, requiring that you sell this business opportunity to other people.
Wow, very interesting dialogue going on here. I got as far as the Sign Up page on the BV1000 presentation and decided to do a search before I paid my $349. Now, I am a bit more cautious.
I personally DO NOT believe there is any such thing as a “saturation point” for any MLM Company. Shaklee, Amway, (forget the new name), Prepaid Legal, Nikken, and probably a few I am forgetting have been around for YEARS. Shaklee is over 55 yrs old.
There are always new people entering the Networking Market, as people leave college, jobs they hate, home influence, and several other reasons……including a Down economy….
Some of the best times to join an MLM business is right now when there are soooo many people seeking out how to Live their Lives With Passion……..instead of a J.O.B. just over broke…….and lots of the younger Entrepreneurs are very Computer, InterNet savvy and will NEVER go the traditional 40 years and retire “old school Career” way of doing things.
I am also fed up with even the old school way of doing MLM or Network Marketing…….and don’t want to call friends and family..or attend meetings….unless it’s on a Cruise where I get a break and brainstorm.
Live Webinars, On-Line Marketing Systems, and access to places to Advertise are really the way to go these days.
I’m not sure if I will join BV1000, but I sure like their Marketing System and how easy it really is to do. Yes, it is important to have an Upline who cares about me, and with there Pay Plan, it does PAY my UL to keep assisting me in my endeavors to be successful…..
I would use the Travel portion of the Company as I make money…….but I do think we should be paid on when people book or take their trip.
Well, I didn’t mean to write a “book” and maybe you won’t post this………but I’ve got over 35 years exp in NW or MLM and think the InterNet has changed everything for us all………for the better if we are willing to get educated and change what we are doing….
Blessings to all, whatever YOU decide to do.
Dazzling Dolly Lutz
Hi Dolly,
How many of these companies retail ‘non-consumable one time purchase membership’ products?
Also if you look at the attrition rates of these companies and the income spread, I’m 99.9% sure you’ll find abysmal numbers. People are sold on the income claims of those that joined early and have enourmous downlines struggling to emulate their income.
This isn’t a market for the products these companies sell, it’s people wanting to join a business opportunity.
As I keep mentioning, this is a fundamental flaw in Bon Voyage’s business model. Their members are rewarded for recruiting with the retail side of things being inseperable from the business oppportunity.
“I would use the Travel portion of the Company as I make money…….but I do think we should be paid on when people book or take their trip. ”
… well there is a brand you company in the prelaunch that offers the above … an much more.
If you need some more info I will be glad to pass it over to you! 🙂
George what company is that?
Im waiting for a company who has plan based on rebates from travelling and not merely recruiting.
After I sponsor 50 to 100 people who loves to travel, isn’t amazing I earn everytime they travel. 🙂
Great opportunity. i am with TVI at the moment. i must say i have benefited a lot. however,we havew been promised a travel product and a welcome holiday and to this day nothing and their search engine has been down for almost three months!
please can anyone help i want to join BV 1000!
I love 2×2, but that is because I am a strong internet marketer and I know how to recruit.
No home business or MLM is easy for anyone because it is about sales and marketing, and this is not for everyone.
Many buy into the dream, and this is a problem in the industry, because when it comes right down to it, many do not do anything.
And you don’t see that as a problem?
If you’re being awarded commissions solely on your ability to recruit others to a business opportunity whose primary measure of success is one’s ability to recruit others to the opportunity – well, what does that sound like to you?
Oz, I agree with you 100% 🙂 The inherited nature of LML business is somewhat full of flaws. I don’t feel like working for it 🙂
BV1000 is the best by far.it does not compare with TVI express which is full of promises,ownership is not clearand no product at all!!! but BV1000’s products are accessible.
what a relief!!!
I have read most of everyone’s comment. I am a TVI member, made good money too. I studied BV1000. It’s really no different than TVI Express model. Both r using da same travel company Travelocity (Sabre) as an affiliate to promote travel.
Here’s the thing. BV1000 appears to be avoiding the mistakes that TVI made by issuing U cards to use as cash value rather than vouchers. BV1000 does not offer the 7/6 nights free vac that TVI Express offered & all the perks.
What BVis doin is equivalent to TVI but w/o the TVI mistakes. BV1000 just tweaked it a bit. TVI Express also had the best matrix according to MLM Watchdog back in Dec 2009 & was giving a 5 star rating. What made TVI Express incompetent was their failed commitment to follow through on their promise to give their members a free 7/6 nights vacation.
The vacation booking portal stayed down for months and majority of TVI’s members were very upset. People wanted the free vacations and it made it’s members look bad when people they sold TVI memberships to couldnt capitalize on their vacations when they attempted to use it. This is what the fuss with TVI Express is all about & why TVI is going down in FLAMES.(lol)
If TVI had fulfilled their promises to their members & customers, TVI right now would have been an income producing giant. TVI brought in 1.3 million members in under a yr & a half. I agreed with Oz quote on Aug 6 and disagree with Michelle T on Aug 7, but I do agree with Michelle on Aug 12. TVI Express started Feb 2009.
if U notice all the travel biz opps such as Pyxism on down to Bon Voyage 1000 used the same method as TVI. All they did was tweaked and used TVI mistakes as their gain.
Do U know that right now TVI’s booking portals are still down and the largest TVI group as of last week decided to discontinue selling TVI Express.
Not only that, TVI Express was issued a cease and desist order in Atlanta, Ga on 7/9/10. I have seen the official order from the State of GA.
Have a great day and much success in your BV1000 oppty.
@Tony
Uh, TVI’s vouchers went towards the total cost of a holiday package and BV1000’s cards do the same thing. How are they different?
And what’s this nonsense about BV1000’s cards having a cash value? Tried to cash one in somewhere for the same amount you paid for it?
Maybe as far as payouts go but the issue here is how those payouts are awarded. They cannot exist without constant one time recruitment of other members who, in order to get paid, must then also go out and recruit new members.
I don’t know if BV1000 et al. are the ones spreading this confusion over why TVI Express got pinged by the authorities but it wasn’t because of their travel portal.
The business model is unsustainable without constant recruitment pure and simple. People go in and commissions come out, it’s unmistakably a pyramid scheme.
As you point out, all these other travel clubs are utilising similar matrix based compensation plans that also only pay out members based on how many new members they themselves can recruit to the opportunity.
It took a year and a half for TVI Express to be cited and most of these new startups have only just begun. It’s a shame it takes the authorities so long to catch onto these opportunities.
My Two Cents!
I joined because I live in Florida and want to take the 3 day 2 night cruise for 2 from Palm Beach to the Grand Bahamas.
Hey Dave, maybe Palm Beach doesn’t exist!
I also get another vacation for the cost of the membership!
The leadership Rewards program is interesting and it’s mine if I want to participate in it. If I don’t want to I don’t have to.
Here’s a YouTube video of Daisy Fuentes taking viewers on a tour of the Cruise ship that will take us to the Grand Bahamas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DufjzkM88PE
Hey Dave, I guess the ship you see in the video is a mirage!
I’ve told several people about this.
Some are interested in the travel and other are interested in the travel and the direct sales opportunity.
The condo specials spectacular!
The company is located in Seattle and the four principle owners pictures and Bios are on the website.
Hey Dave, I guess these people are fake!
They don’t require a social security # because it is registered in Trinidad. It’s members, if they earn any money they are responsible for reporting just like any other self-employed business owner.
It’s true that many Internet companies have ruined the image of the business, but many direct selling companies are legit and have real consumable products that customers want.
The poster here Dave Reid could care less about the BonVoyage1000 business, if it’s good or bad. His agenda is earning money just like most BonVoyage1000 members.
He’s earns it when people click the Google sponsored links on this page. It’s called Google Adsense!
He tries to create controversy to get people to this website hoping they will clicks the Google sponsored ads. Only problem is, he makes fractions of cents when they are clicked which I think is funny as hell.
Imagine this guy going to all this trouble answering peoples post too add as much controversy so he can make pennies per day.
You just got exposed Dave, like your trying to expose BonVoyage1000 as some kind of scam.
Hey BV1000 members, imagine what Dave could accomplish if he’d join us and focus his energy to his BonVoyage1000 business instead of making 64 cents a day with this week website.
Regards, Bobby
@Bobby — I am neither for or against BV1K, but your argument smacks of “scam tactics”.
What does whether Palm Beach exist or the Carnival cruise ship exist have ANYTHING to do with legitimacy of BV1K?
And what does “many MLM businesses are legitimate” have to do with BV1K?
Then you went on a personal attack on Dave Reid, basically accusing him of ulterior motives, then ridiculing him on those alleged motives. That’s a circular argument.
I’ve seen TVI Express folks using those exact same tactics, and was wondering if your use was deliberate, or merely your lack of forethought.
That’s where you are wrong. Population of Earth IS limited, and thus market size is limited.
Amway sells consumable products, so there’s constant need. It’s not new customers, but rather REPEAT customers, that keeps the company going.
Prepaid Legal Service does offer a real product “lawsuit insurance”, but their marketing practices have been investigated as pyramid in multiple states in the US and in Canada. A 2009 suit on a critical website was defeated in Canadian courts.
You’re making a fundamental mistake, mixing up the market for the MLM product vs. the pool of recruits to push such products.
Hi Bobby,
So you joined a business opportunity travel club just to take one promotinal cruise?
…and then what? You have to start recruiting others to earn any money.
Is the Bahamas cruise a one time thing or is it going to be a recurring offer? If not, so after the cruise there’d be no incentive to join Bon Voyage unless you’re interested in the business opportunity right?
What does that have to do with anything? And how does that change the fact that if I decide to participate in the business opportunity I have to recruit people to Bon Voyage to earn any money?
Why is the Bon Voyage 1000 registered in Trinidad of all places? Doesn’t it comply with US law? Having an admin office in the US but registering your business in Trinidad of all places seems a little suss doesn’t it?
Kind of like TVI Express’ ever elusive headquarters.
Yes it doesn’t really add up does it. Why would some guy who was just in it for the money go to so much effort in answering people’s questions and researching various MLM companies for a fraction of a few cents per day?
Of course none of what you posted actually adressed the fundamental fact that to get paid in Bon Voyage 1000 you need to constantly recruit new members to the business. Somewhat of a mediocre attempt at misdirection there.
Also, for the record…
Bon Voyage 1000 is doing very well, has made continuous improvements and upgrades, and is showing itself as a truly quality company.
I know our Ozzy thread starter is passionate about his cause, but I would like to say this…
there are literally hundreds if not thousands of scams, cheeseball money games, fly by night deals that last for a few weeks, and worse…continually “launching” and prelaunching.
If you were to look at any of the main mlm forums right now, you would find tons of these scams and dead end deals…
they arise like mushrooms after the rain, last for a few days or weeks, and then dissapear, never to be heard of again (fortunately! lol).
If you were to compare Bon Voyage 1000, with the current 300 recently posted threads in the main mlm forums, I am confident that Bon Voyage 1000 would definitely show up as a classy, quality, high value product and opportunity.
If you were to line up all of the above mentioned 300 companies/deals/programs etc. with Bon Voyage 1000, I honestly think this site and it’s attempt to demonize Bon Voyage 1000, would look a bit silly.
The reason is, is that Bon Voyage 1000 shines bright amongst the best out there.
And consider this, there is massive attrition in traditional mlm plans, with residual income.
So, you are having to constantly “recruit” for ANY mlm company these days!
Direct sales, one time cost programs are completely legal, legit, and accepted as a mode of sales. Period!
The conversation here is comparing one time sale/direct sales companies like Bon Voyage 1000 and residual/autoship plans.
Again, your reasoning in this entire site is faulty!!!
You need to “recruit” in residual plans as well!
Sure, some will stay on autoship, but some wont…so what!
Such is life!
Most mlm autoships are around 100 dollars, often with shipping,tax etc. can be more than that.
Bon Voyage 1000 is 350 one time. That’s the cost of maybe 3 months of autoship or less, for your average nutritional company.
Most people in autoship companies never ever get to a break even point or profit, just the facts…
And they must stay on autoship, spending more and more money, while desperately trying to build a residual income that is falling apart under them, as attrition, the next best thing, competition etc. takes over…not fun!
So, you can say that all network marketing is a hoax/scam/ etc. which is disengenious and not even slightly true, or you can admit that Bon Voyage 1000, is a realistic, quality, high integrity company, with honest and solid founders, quality product, and high leveraged compensation…
but like anything in life…
it may not be for you!
If you consider my points here, you will see, there is really no basis of any trashing of Bon Voyage 1000 that is based on either pratical or legal reality.
This is a good company, and like any of the many network marketing companies out there, nothing is for everyone!
All the best
and remember….
life is precious…
live like there is no tomorrow,
and dance while you can.
David 🙂
Bobby,
Your mention of my name is totally mistaken in your post above!! Read through this thread and you will see that you are NOT referring to me in your comments, you meant to address Oz, the thread starter, not me!!
Read the thread and see what I mean, you got the wrong person! 🙂
@David Reid — reading through your two posts here, I find that you have not posted any facts, at least none of any use.
Your claim that “any MLM will recruit” is at best, a false analogy. A legitimate MLM only pays on sales, whether it’s sales by you directly, or indirectly by your downlines, but it is based on SALES, not recruitment alone.
You did not bother explaining what BY1K’s compensation plan is. You simply addressed the “recruiting” complaint by talking about everything EXCEPT BY1K, but then you went ahead and claimed that BY1K is legitmate, but never explained why.
@David Reid
Such as…?
Have Bon Voyage 1000 fixed up the recruitment reliant compensation plan yet? Thought not.
There’s a difference between recruiting due to attrition and recruiting due to it being the only way to get a commission payout. Huge difference.
Your entire argument seems to be ‘compare us to other scams out there’, rather then providing any factual or substantiative proof of how Bon Voyage 1000 has gotten around the requirement to recruit in order to get paid.
Time and time again it’s these models that run into trouble with various regulators around the world. I have no doubt if Bon Voyage 1000 ever got big enough to have a substantial impact, the same fate awaits them. Unless of course they change their compensation model which at this point doesn’t seem likely.
Oz I really wonder what your interest in all of this comes from?
Why are you spending so much time writing comments and responses? Is it because you want thrash some of these MLM companies for the benefit of yours?
You sound like someone who’s running their own scam, you seem to know too much for someone who’s not involved in the industry! Stop it NOW!!!
Yes, because obviously I am involved in an MLM company of my own. I mean that’s the only reason anyone ever analyses MLM right.
Shock horror! Someone is actually doing their own independent due diligence and sharing what they find with others, ohnoes!
…or else what?
Oh sure, another “conspiracy theorist”… Any critics of a MLM must belong to a “competitor”. I’ve encountered them MANY times before. See “attack the critic” section of
http://hubpages.com/hub/TVI-Express-Scam-Tactic-Analysis-How-and-Why-Do-People-Fall-for-a-Scam
Yet they will also say “If you’re not in it, you don’t understand us” and thus should have no right to criticize it. (Also see “You don’t understand us” section in same article above)
It’s call pseudo-science, folks. Just like the vaccine denial folks, they dance this way and that (it’s thimerasol, it’s combination of vaccines, it’s this, it’s that) When science have broken each of their allegations, they blame a “conspiracy”.
In this case, it’s pseudo-MLM scam (or MLM in general) vs. critics. When they run out of arguments, they claim you’re in a conspiracy in employ of either a competitor, a scam, or conspiracy of the rich to keep other people poor.
I’ll have to publish the hub I’ve been writing about this irrational behavior: blame a conspiracy to prop up your ego.
And a late addition: one-time sales of membership or product is perfectly legal, but it’s a DEAD-END proposition for a MLM, because there is no repeat business.
I have a friend who used to sell Quorum, personal security products (a hotel door alarm you hang on the handle, a personal “siren” you activate in case of emergency, etc.) He quit after 3 months having only made a handful of sales. There is no repeat customer, making the effort to market the products way too high. How many personal security products does one need?
One-time payment is a DEAD-END for MLMs. Every business knows you need repeat customers. When there is no repeat customers, there is no business. It may be perfectly legal but it’s not a good opportunity to participants.
I must say I recognize this behavior. All the members of Wealth Masters International I have been in contact with are completely sure that I push another MLM business, as they can’t imagine anybody willing to use energy for no personal benefit.
Basicly because they are not people to stand up for the truth without payment, and they consider everybody to think the same way.
A Norwegian poet wrote:
“Du skal ikke tåle så inderlig vel
den urett som ikke rammer deg selv”
This means:
“You shall not accept
the abuse that don’t harm yourself”
WMI has not made me any harm (except the threaths) or caused me any loss, but still I am not willing to accept that they continue to defraud and brainwash innocent people.
The main reason why companies like WMI can maintain their stinking business is because too many people ignore them although they know it is a scam.
I’m all too familiar with the ‘you work for someone else!’ line of defence, as this started about ten seconds after I wrote my first article on Liberty League over a year ago.
It’s your standard detract from the message by going after the messenger tactic and unfortunately for them does absolutely nothing to address the legitimacy of the information presented.
I could be a junkie living on the moon but that still doesn’t in any way reflect on the information presented here.
hi guys im a member of bonvoyage1000 here in South africa. this is the best MLM business of all time the money is very real i havent travelled yet but i know that when i do i will be taken care of very well.
To those of us who couldnt afford high things at the beginning bonvoyage1000 has changed that they have given us an opportunity to free ourselves financially.
so all that bullcrap that being said about the company is lousy practice the opportunity first an then judge from that i feel its very stupid to prejudge an opportunity from far.
if u feel its not real for u fine be that way, but plz learn to shut your mouth afterwards coz the mere fact that u dont feel it will work for u doesnt mean it wont work for others.
kb… You are saying the EXACT same words that TVI Express members were saying for well over a year: “It changed my life” “You don’t understand us.” “You can’t judge us unless you’re a member”. “You are just being negative”.
Why don’t you provide some FACTS instead of rhetoric opinions, so other people can make their own decisions.
You sound like you’ve been brainwashed, just like those TVI Express members. They promised to change lives too. Now they are under investigation in Namibia and Swaziland, plus a dozen more countries around the world. How about you explain just HOW is BV1K different from TVI Express instead of just jumping up and down chanting “We’re not scam, we’re not scam”?
Just noticed this falsehood… MLM Watchdog have been denouncing TVI Express since 2009. MLM Watchdog in fact reprinted my translation of TVI Express members arrested and convicted in China article.
The only place that ever gave good ratings to TVI Express was CitizenCorps, which had been since retracted, and TVI Express was placed on “Alert Status” early 2010.
K.Chang! Give me a break. I know you are one of the hardcore MLM liberals. But don’t come here and call me a fabricator. I know what I read on MLM Watchdog. You weren’t standing over my shoulders when I read it. MLM Watchdog DID give TVI Express a 5-star rating.
That was one of the reasons, when I was doing my due diligence, I used in my decision to join TVI Express. Then when TVI Express started falling apart, MLM Watchdog downgraded TVI Express to a 3-star rating siting issued with the so-called board of directors.
Case in point, nobody had never heard of any of the board of directors such as CEO Bill Wimmer or any of the other people mentioned. Now I am learning that Tarun Trikha is the CEO. Imagine that! Then I came across you, I even checked you out with info avail to me on Google.
I don’t have any reason to sit here and lie to you or anyone else about what I investigated.
Find me the entry that listed such a thing on MLM Watchdog right now, and I’ll apologize to you on this comment board.
I don’t believe you’ll find it. I tracked TVI Express’s progress since 2009 and no such review ever crossed my radar. In fact, Rod Cook is one of the first to call TVI Express a scam.
Good thing to find you have changed your mind about TVI Express. I believe you’ve been deceived into spreading that fake review though.
And your “downgrade to 3-star” virtually confirms that the review was from CitizenCorps, not MLM Watchdog.
@kb
Uh, nobody’s saying people aren’t getting paid or that the business isn’t working, rather the opinion I put forth is that that Bon Voyage 1000 directly relies on constant recruitment to ensure it’s continuinity.
The holiday packages are completely detached from the comissions paid out and members are only required to recruit others in order to get paid.
You don’t need to join Bon Voyage 1000 to realise that this is blatantly obvious.
K Chang! As a former state trooper(and I know that dont mean nothing to you), I ran into guys like you. These guys are experts in the field of microwave rays and can tell me all the insides and out about how my radar works and then have the ordacity to tell that I am doing it wrong and that Federal law supercedes State law. My convictions are based on what I see on the face of the radar and not what I know about the insides of one. I could care less about the inside operations of a radar unit, if you know what I mean. Now you appear to be an expert on MLM business opportunities. Now I never heard or seen CitizenCorps whoever they are. I only know MLM Watchdog which I stumbled upon reading most of your critical blogs. Dang! I found you on google. Again, and I emphasize, I dont have no reason to lie to you or anyone here. I dont even know you. Im just stating facts as to what I read and where I got my sources from just like YOU got your sources to give the type of information that you feel we should know about to protect us from being scammed. I admire you for that. Now I can sit here and challenge you on facts and call you a lier, but that not me. I dont have that type of time to do that. I have challenged you from time to time on facts which about TVI Express, but your investigation only mirrored my investigation because I wanted to be right about TVI Express and from the beginning TVI Express had millions of people fooled and embarrassed, including myself. I had to humble myself to the fact that you guys were looking like you knew what you were talking about. Now maybe you missed it on MLM Watchdog. I tried to pull it up and look for the achives, but that article is no longer there, but Ill keep on looking for it, because I know I saw the article. When or if I find it, Ill post it to you. Now until then, this is my story and Im sticking to it. Whether you believe me or not, I kind of care, but I am not going to lose sleep over it. This is my last response to your contradictions of what I saw on MLM Watchdog unless you tell me something different, but I doubt it. Have a great day and Im wishing you much success to your convictions of making sure that no one gets scammed in the MLM business.
Tony, I don’t doubt that you actually BELIEVE that you saw such an entry on MLM Watchdog. However, as I’ve repeated before, it’s impossible… Rod Cook, who runs MLM Watchdog, was one of the first to say TVI Express was a pyramid scheme.
Again, the only site that I can find, EVER, that rated TVI Express 5-stars, then downgraded it to 3 stars, was CitizenCorps.com (which I had repeated before)
I believe you had the sites mixed up somehow, but that is merely my opinion, based on the facts available.
The only contradiction I see was your statement regarding MLM Watchdog and the facts (regarding both TVI Express and MLM Watchdog). As you’ve already said you believe it’s a scam) there’s no reason to dwell over it indeed.
I don’t claim to be MLM expert at all. My interest with MLM is only peripheral to my amateurish efforts to track the TVI Express scam.
What do you mean you haven’t travelled – what exactly are you being rewarded for if you (or anyone you’ve recruited) aren’t doing any travel?
Do you honestly see no resemblence of Bon Voygage 1000 to TVI Express?
Oh dear…
They only see the dollar signs, AA.
Which is why I think this cartoon is quite appropriate:
linked from http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/08/china-incomplete-e-pyramid-survey-tvi.html
“Recruiting” (sales) is getting new customers who pay for product or services,yes many customers are attracted to the opportunity attached to it,so,Whats wrong with it?Whats wrong when i see my prospect with a dollar sign in my eyes?
Even a doctor do this, every body do this all day long.Do you work all day with professional smiles on your faces because you love humanity?
There are black sheeps in every field and so are in NM. Find a good company with track record and leadership and you can be your own Boss one day.
NM gave me hope when I was hopeless,and its the only way out for a average person in the declining economy.
If you can put extra effort for extra money its for you, otherwise stay way.
First of all recruiting isn’t sales and if it is then you have a fundamentally flawed business plan to begin with. In Bon Voyage there is no retail, members are exclusively compensated for signing people up.
Members do then have the opportunity to purchase travel products but this has no bearing on the MLM side of the business as you cannot earn a commission of the travel sales once you’ve signed someone up.
Thus members are forced to go sign more people up to keep earning a commission, those they recruit ‘with dollar signs in their eyes‘ are also then required to go out and recruit new members to earn a commission and thus the pyramid is born.
When was the last time you visited a doctor, handed over some money and walked away with a medical license (that the providing doctor earned a nice healthy commission on)?
TVI started exactly like this, i knew personally someone that received her payout more than 2 times before they finally packed up.
as someone has mentioned above,members sometimes don’t look into the long term of these business but rather what they can get at that point so far they recruit people into the business.as i heard from top source that started BV1000,the incentives has been taken out.
NO MORE INCENTIVES..so even if your downline is 300 peoples or more there are no incentives so it now boils down to continues recruiting directly under you to make $1000,a member confirmed to me that his downline was about 300 people during the period of Nov-December and he only get $1000,and another source had already cancel her membership since last year December because of this as well.
no doubt they have all made good $ earlier but now the company has reached its target and the policies are being defied,when you come across post like this please don’t act as if you don’t wanna pay attention because you are making some $ now from it,good for those that has made it but what am saying is that it looks like it wont last and the later ones joining now will be depressed as they will be struggling to register people and to make their own $ as they have been told.
Here’s a summary of all the TVI Express Clones
http://kschang.blogspot.com/2011/01/rise-of-tvi-express-clones.html
Notwithstanding the questionable nature of Pyxism. Botswana Consumer Voice seem to regard it “same as TVI Express”.
Hey Everyone,
I just wanted to give you an update on my experience with BV1k. I have not been involved in a long time now. I have gotten clarity on a few things since then. Such as:
The difference between “having a product to make it legal”, versus a truly product driven company. The fact that millions pay for travel is not good enough.
Because the ultimate fact of the matter is, no matter how nice or legal this travel product is/was, people are not joining for the product. They are joining for the money game.
Most of the others, Including tvi, dreamstyle vacations, juugo etc. are long gone as far as I know. I mean, the matrix’s have been dead for a long time, and no one is working them.
A money game by any other name remains the same. It matters not how cool the product is, people are not buying products for any of these in and of itself.
And thus, there is NO market for them, outside of a very small group of gifters and those who wanted to do the same type of plan but “legal”. That can only go for so long, and thus, they are not sustainable, not product driven, they are glorified gifting programs.
Isn’t there another one out now ROI, same concept, just more legit. But to me, that does not cut it.
It’s all about product/service driven, independent of the compensation plan, where success is created, and legal, real companies are born.
Be well and take good care everyone, these are intense times.
Warm Regards,
David Reid
PS. Thanks for letting me keep it real. And as for the past, I have learned, and I am stronger and better and grateful for it.
Thanks for coming back and sharing your experiences and insight David. I’m glad you finally saw the light regarding Bon Voyage’s lack of an actual product.
When you combine MLM with a lack of an actual product you get the recruitment driven mentality that is ultimately unsustainable, as you’ve found out. You really need solid products and incentive to market them at a retail level to deliver long term sustainable results in the MLM industry.
Not too sure about ROI, I’ll add them to my list of companies to eventually check out, cheers for that.
Wishing you well in the future.
Bonvoyage1000 has now introduced leaders bonus of $10000 per month residual bonus.
The company is continuously making positive changes to comp plan and their payment modes and adding new destination for its members to enjoy discounted vacations.
MLM is a recruiting business you need to recruit/sell product and services no matter what marketing plan you are involved, but the beauty of BV1000 is that a average person can walk in and make $1000 with little effort however for some serious money one must perform as a recruiter.
Conclusion: BV1000 is providing fair chance for average Joe to see some real cash in his pocket.
Even if you throw away the comp plan out of window and stay there as a member u can save thousands of dollars on vacations because we offer up to 90% discount on Condos.
@Ghazanfar
This unfortunately is still tied into the recruitment of others.
From the website linked;
Ok, $14,000 – sounds great.
So how do you ‘help three of your vice admirals become Admirals‘? They have to recruit.
And how do you cycle 10 times a month? By recruiting.
Slapping on cutesy naval ranks doesn’t hide the fact that the Bon Voyage 1000 business opportunity is still hopelessly dependant on recruiting.
No, no it isn’t.
Pyramid schemes and illegal cash games are recruitment businesses.
MLM should be primarily about the sale of products with a business opportunity tacked on the back for those interested in participating.
The primary focus should always be on sales and offering value to your retail customers.
It’s not ‘multi-level-recruitment’, it’s ‘multi-level-marketing’!
Bon Voyage shouldn’t and can’t be about mass recruiting if it hopes to achieve viability in the long term.
Conclusion: Sooner or later you’re going to exhause your local markets and this will increase exponentially as more and more people see Bon Voyage 1000 for what it is, an unsustainable recruitment based MLM opportunity.
The bottom line shouldn’t just be seeing some real cash in your pocket. How you earn this real cash is also important too.
I can go rob a bank and that’s going to put some real cash into my pocket too. Am I going to keep on doing this in the long term?
Of course not.
That’s great, but how do you expect to finance such holidays?
And if you do work another job/opportunity, how long before your Bon Voyage upline cracks the shits with you for not pulling your weight and recruiting?
It’s TVI Express all over again.
TVI Express FAQ: “you need to encourage and teach those two downlines (people you sponsored) to sponsor more people and duplicate the process. Following these two simple steps will have you making money even while you sleep”
TVI Express FAQ: ” When you cycle out of the Express board, you automatically become a Gold Associate and start receiving 5% of the group sales. When two people in any two different legs of your organizational structure reach the 5% level, you become a Diamond Associate and the percentage commission upgrades to 7%. Similarly, it goes to 8.5% and 10% finally entering you into the power pool where you earn lifelong royalty income from the Global Revenue of the Company.”
Translation: the more you recruit (and not sell anything), the more money you make.
People put money in the stock market every and lose alot that the biggest scam around but people keep putting millions in and the people want to complain about this.
Cycle once and you have your investment back a 100% return. You don’r get that with the corrupt fatcat stock market.
@Robert
And how much does the stock market pay someone for recruiting others to join the stock maret. Oh wait, there’s nobody to pay to join the stockmarket in the first place.
Invalid comparison.
And how many people do you need to recruit to cycle, how many people do they then need to recruit to cycle, how many do they then need etc?
Comparing recruitment driven pyramid schemes to the stock market is ridiculous.
Red herring. We’re NOT talking about the stock market. We’re talking about BV1K.
So you’re saying you’d pick a LESSER scam than the stock market (which in your opinion is a scam). So you just essentially admitted that BV1K is a scam, right?
As I Read Most Of These Comments It Brings To Mind A Company Called JOYSTAR TRAVEL AGENCY(Start Your Own Travel Agency) Who walked Away With Everyone’s Money Too! How these companies get away with it as long as they do, is amazing!
I Can See The Fascination Of Some Of These Companies – But – Do Your Homework, And If It Sounds To Good To Be True – It Usually Is!
I just want to know that do i have rigth to continue becourse last year. i have joined company, i have recruit only two people.
my problem was that the person who recruit me she didnot give me enougth surport and now i am using new e-mail address
I suppose there’s nothing stopping you from continuing (provided you still have access to your old email address), but why would you want to?
How about looking for a legit MLM opportunity instead?
i don,t have access to my old email address thats why i asked becourse i am worried this means that i have losed my money.
Its my first time to hear about MLM can you brief whats all about
Probably best to contact Bon Voyage 1000 directly then… (good luck!)
At its most basic, you sell a product or service (membership to a company or the income opportunity itself is neither) to retail customers, with the option of building a distributor team along the way and being rewarded commissions utilising a Multi-level compensation plan.
Thank you very much i will do . what kind of product do you have?
Apart from information, which is given freely – none.
BehindMLM is not a MLM company, nor am I involved in or associated with one.
@sekhae mofolo
We don’t recommend any of the opportunities reviewed here, we are only delivering information.
There’s possible to find a few ideas that may work here. Often it’s better to look for ideas that may work rather than to look for opportunities.
Most people that makes money makes it by repeating the same sets of ideas over and over again, until they gradually starts to earn more money. The ideas they are using are usually very simple and easy to replicate. Usually they select ideas that works for them rather than trying to follow other people’s ideas.
The basic idea for doing business is to
* identify needs in a market, real or imaginary needs.
* where people are willing to pay and able to pay for solutions.
* and deliver the right solutions to cover those needs, real or imaginary solutions.
* while you make a profit by doing it, or by paying others to do it.
Most scams will use exactly the same ideas as real businesses, but they deliver fake or imaginary solutions that only pretends to be real solutions.
The basic ideas for doing business will usually work well in any market, but usually you will need something more than these ideas. Most markets will need some special knowledge or skills in addition to these basic ideas.
Most markets are out of our reach, we don’t have the skills, experience or capital to make any money in them, or they are already overcrowded with competitors. A few markets may be within our reach if we have the resources needed (like skills, experience or starting capital). More markets will be within our reach if we cooperate with others, adding their resources or skills to make an idea work.