Xu abandons WCM777 over regulatory heat

40 Comments on “Xu abandons WCM777 over regulatory heat”

#1

Oz

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:02 am  Oz(Q)

I just received this tip via email, it’s a Facebook video published by a “Roberto Molinari” a few hours ago.

Apparently he’s claiming “hackers made off with $200mill in WCM777 money and that the company is going to launch under a new name.

All they need now is DDOS attack excuses and they hit the Ponzi trifecta.

Not sure if he’s the new owner (any Brazilians reading, little help?).

(Ozedit: video not available as of Sep 2019)



#2

LB

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:06 am  LB(Q)

It’s in spanish, he keeps referring to a report that will be released soon that will explain everything that is going on. Part 2 has the guy on the right talking



#3

Oz

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:08 am  Oz(Q)

A report by who? How ironic would it be if the SEC filed papers early next week :).

Is this guy based in the US? If not looks like Xu has gone offshore… (hell he’s probably still running the thing).



#4

put him in jail

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:27 am  put him in jail(Q)

IDIOTS. I look forward to seeing the whole bunch of these clowns with steel bracelets. Also want to see the list of scammers, uh, net winners, get their gov’t notices of clawbacks. Let’s get the same game on with the Better Living bunch, the Casino thing, and throw in Lucrazon and perhaps the rat’s nest will be cleaned out for awhile.



#5

Dragon

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:36 am  Dragon(Q)

Roberto Molinari, says Philip Ming Xu accused Renato Rodriguez and Guttenberg of hacking affiliates accounts to steal their points, this accusation had the intend to initiate a confrontation between promoters as a distraction so Philip Ming Xu could close the WCM777 bank accounts and run with the money.

Molinari says too that Philip emptied these bank accounts but the money is still in Global Unity because the points are there.

Yes Roberto said the points are the money, so he tells to his affiliates to not worry and the business will going on with Global Unity.



#6

Dragon

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:40 am  Dragon(Q)

Oz the report is made by Roberto and his team “Atenas”.



#7

K. Chang

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:41 am  K. Chang(Q)

Given that he previously found some scapegoat to run Kingdom777, I wouldn’t put too much “stock” into this announcement.



#8

Oz

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:52 am  Oz(Q)

Thanks for the additional translation/info guys.



#9

LB

Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:53 am  LB(Q)

K. Chang:
Given that he previously found some scapegoat to run Kingdom777, I wouldn’t put too much “stock” into this announcement.

Well said – and I’d have a difficult time believing Phil would have sold off everything to just one entity.. too many diversified properties, etc for just one buyer to be interested

The “report” from this group of clowns has been pending for a while now..



#10

M_Norway

Mar 15th, 2014 at 4:42 am  M_Norway(Q)

Dragon:
Yes Roberto said the points are the money, so he tells to his affiliates to not worry and the business will going on with Global Unity.

Points are only worth something if anyone is willing to replace them / trade them with real money?

Roberto Molinari seems to be slightly confused about realities, e.g. unable to separate between real money and “points”.

“Don’t worry guys. Only the money is gone, but we still have the points!”.



#11

Bob Hu

Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:23 am  Bob Hu(Q)

He is running coffee MLM and Global-Unity.com out of this new office:
3620 Cypress Avenue, El Monte CA 91731

How Ming Xu not own Global-Unity.net when the employees work in his office? He closed Pasadana office.

web02.wcm777.com hosts http://www.global-unity.net



#12

Emmanuel

Mar 15th, 2014 at 12:23 pm  Emmanuel(Q)

Tiguer to Xu (and WCM777 staff):

“Gentlemen, it has been a privilege scamming with you tonight.”

LOL



#13

KINGDOM HOUSTON

Mar 15th, 2014 at 1:54 pm  KINGDOM HOUSTON(Q)

BEFORE MOLINARI MADE THIS VIDEO HE WAS ACCUSING THE PEOPLE HE IS NOW DEFENDING

English (auto-translate):

Kingdom777 – Official and authorized
March 7

– THE FIRST TWO TRUMPETS JUST SONAR –

Renato Rodriguez and Guttemberg Dos Santos; are a foot end up like King Midas, that this empire built on the tears of those who suffer because of you, be transformed into mud, just a memory.

In a few more days, may not enter any nation in Latin America without risking ridicule. I wonder, Will they be able to stand up in an auditorium where people instead of us do so with applause and boos claims?

The evidence is overwhelming, there are all kinds of evidence of their miseries. Take note, I Roberto Molinari, do not hide, do not scare me, I’m not afraid, I do not care absolutely nothing about what they are or what they do, they can threaten all they want, search out for the best lawyers do the demands paste them into wins, but the difference between you and I is that I do not disappoint, not cheat, do not cheat, I will not lie and popcorn to see you both thinking they will eat or pay their bills.

Read carefully, “He who has nothing , fears nothing .”

The two played to be rich and messed with the wrong people and there are certain things that money not resolved. Even in Europe and are waiting . They are the first in the list of names that people want to know how those directly responsible for the scam and I give them:

RENATO RODRIGUEZ AND DOS SANTOS Gutenberg

But we do not encourage violence in any form or will tolerate, NO, will not be touched, no one touched them a single hair, but definitely live firsthand the tragedy of that money is not everything, not solves everything, not all quiet, it just may not enjoy ¨ ¨.

I wonder , as explained points theft , bad checks , the ¨ ¨ Hacking of accounts using forged passports on the embezzlement fraud and scams, and then as if nothing had passed the project to build a “new platform”. Perhaps will they accuse of slander and libel? Will they hide behind the skirt of certain women as seems to be the trend?

Real men come face to face.

Testimonials , photos, evidence , documents, recordings are some of the items we’ve collected where even people around you giving you betrayed evidence of their questionable actions. Yes, there are more and more names trumpets and we absolutely care less about whether they like it or not, whether they are affected or not.

We are not interested in the slightest. You brought this misery and are directly responsible for the actions of WCM777 or Kingdom777 effect.

Wherever they go see our faces and our accusing fingers to point them in derision by the simple fact of having given birth to the beast. The scam to the faith of the people , the World Capital Market Fraud , purchase intentions within the Company ‘s breach of trust, are part of the shares for which they will have to respond.

You know my name , you know who the opponent (and I’m not alone, if you intend to come together) and everyone should know these things because we will not let you hide. Only you can solve the dilemma of the units, the return of seized money than leaving WCM777 bankrupt the project because it was you who made ​​that happen and be very difficult to distance themselves from both claim and as definitive.

These are the first two trumpets and believe me, you will sound will make these lines look like a sunny picnic. They have little time and clarified, is not ¨ ¨ bluff. Minimize all you want, look cardinals, bishops, pastors, rabbis, or high priests, to deny leave, please sell snake oil, that when it comes to being in front of the court, be the first to point them out with your finger. I assure you.

Roberto Molinari

Spanish (original):

Kingdom777 – Oficial y autorizada
March 7

– LAS PRIMERAS DOS TROMPETAS ACABAN DE SONAR –

Renato Rodríguez y Guttemberg Dos Santos; están a un pie de acabar como el Rey Midas; de que ese imperio que construyeron sobre las lágrimas de los que sufren por culpa de ustedes, se trasforme en lodo, en solo un recuerdo.

En unos días más, no podrán entrar en ninguna nación de América Latina sin arriesgarse al escarnio. Me pregunto, ¿Serán capaces de dar la cara en un auditorio donde la gente en vez de recibirlos con aplausos lo haga con abucheos y reclamos?.

Las evidencias son contundentes, hay todo tipo de pruebas de sus miserias. Tomen nota; Yo Roberto Molinari, no me escondo, no me asustan, no les tengo miedo, no me importa absolutamente nada de lo que son o lo que hagan, pueden amenazar todo lo que quieran, búsquense los mejores abogados hagan las demandas que se les pegue en gana, pero la diferencia entre ustedes y yo es que yo no defraude, no estafe, no engañe, no mentí y será de palomitas de maíz verlos a los dos pensando que comerán o como pagaran sus cuentas.

Lean con atención, “Quien nada tiene, nada teme”.

Los dos jugaron a ser ricos y se metieron con la gente equivocada y hay ciertas cosas que el dinero no las resuelve. Incluso en Europa ya los están esperando. Son los primeros en la lista de nombres que la gente quiere conocer como los directos responsables de la estafa y se los doy:

RENATO RODRIGUEZ Y GUTTEMBERG DOS SANTOS

Pero no fomentamos la violencia en ninguna de sus formas ni la vamos a tolerar, NO, no serán tocados, nadie les tocara un solo pelo, pero sin duda alguna vivirán en carne propia la tragedia de que el dinero no lo es todo, no lo resuelve todo, no lo calma todo, simplemente ¨No lo podrán disfrutar¨.

Me pregunto, como explicaran el robo de puntos, los cheques sin fondos, el ¨Hackeo¨ de cuentas, el uso de pasaportes apócrifos, el desvío de fondos el fraude y la estafa, para luego como si nada hubo pasado construir el proyecto de una “nueva plataforma”. Acaso ¿van a acusarnos de calumnias e injurias?, ¿van a esconderse detrás de la falda de ciertas mujeres como parece ser la tendencia? Los hombres de verdad nos enfrentamos cara a cara.

Testimonios, fotos, evidencias, documentos, grabaciones son algunos de los elementos que hemos recopilado donde inclusive gente que te rodea te ha traicionado entregando pruebas de sus cuestionables actos. Sí; hay más trompetas y más nombres y nos importa absolutamente un bledo si les gusta o no; si les afecta o no. No nos interesa en lo más mínimo. Ustedes trajeron esta miseria y son los directos responsables de las acciones del efecto WCM777 o Kingdom777.

Allí donde vayan verán nuestros rostros y nuestros dedos acusadores que les señalaran con escarnio por el simple hecho de haber dado vida a la bestia. La estafa a la fe de las personas, el fraude a World Capital Market, la compra de voluntades dentro de la Compañía el abuso de confianza, son parte de las acciones por las que tendrán que responder.

Ya sabes mi nombre, sabes quién es el oponente (y no estoy solo, por si pretendes venir acompañado) y todos deben saber estas cosas porque no dejaremos que te escondas. Solo ustedes pueden resolver el dilema de las unidades, la devolución del dinero del que se apoderaron dejando en la bancarrota al proyecto WCM777, porque ustedes fueron los que hicieron que sucediera eso y será muy difícil desmarcarse de tanto reclamo y con tanta contundencia.

Estas son las dos primeras trompetas y créanme, las que van a sonar harán que estos renglones se vean como un soleado día de campo. Les queda poco tiempo y aclaro, no es ¨blofeo¨. Minimicen todo lo que quieran, busquen cardenales, obispos, pastores rabinos o sumos sacerdotes, salgan a desmentir, pónganse a vender espejitos de colores, que cuando sea la hora de estar frente al tribunal, seré el primero en señalarlos con el dedo. Se los aseguro.

Roberto Molinari



#14

KINGDOM HOUSTON

Mar 15th, 2014 at 1:57 pm  KINGDOM HOUSTON(Q)

THIS THE FOLLOW UP:

English (auto-translate):

– THE THIRD TRUMPET HAS SOUNDED –

Over two and a half hours , hand in hand with Phillip Xu Ming , chairman of World Capital Market, an upscale hotel in Los Angeles , California , where nothing remained in the pipeline . Absolutely everything that has happened , what is happening and what will happen in a REVEALING meeting.

Now we can say without a doubt that the charade is over.

This week will be published the first part of the most interesting and complete case report WCM777 & Kingdom777 , with the most detailed map of who is who in the ambitious plot where over two hundred million dollars was stolen from World Capital Market affecting all

We did not play the mysterious, do not come with Webinares ¨ ¨ ¨ cheap nor histeriquitas ¨ Third phone calls. Here there is no place for ¨a contact told me¨, or ¨I confirm a guy in the corporate or¨ mariconerías these samples and a button READ BELOW:

WERE IN:

– > Orange County Katella 438 Est, Suite 212, California, where lie to the people of the new platform named DISCLOSE EXCLUSIVE FOR TOMORROW and whose initials are ALL IN ¨ ¨ (we have pictures of the place on the first floor, crap trap (idiotic washing up)

-> We talked to one of the ¨ ¨ hacker who showed us how they steal points Kingdom777 Renato Dos Santos Rodriguez and Guttemberg GoldenFrog ¨ ¨ using the program (If you also have photos of the offender) and is called JOEL CROSS.

-> We are registered with names, surnames, physical evidence and photo who falsify the documentation submitted to get points or to register Kingdom777 mediocre platform dynamic duo. It’s all a show Gore film.

– > We keep arming another name for the list of those who are complicit in the cruelest scam network marketing holland PEDRO who then become the “Me , I do not fuck with this shit ” (we know how a ticket spread your legs any ) and after receiving the most tempting offer that would have earned working honestly never agree to join the Crew living of deception and manipulation.

-> We know who the new owners Kingdom777 and are called ” Profit Limited Progress ” operating in China and will be your link to America. If as you read U.S. , because we like the five minutes of fame as some enfermitos say and because we have more balls than a pride of lions together and because we love a challenge , especially when three riders can face all the cavalry of morons 3D .

-> TOMORROW we dedicate crap NAME BY RENATO RODRIGUEZ BEGOTTEN Gutenberg DOS SANTOS AND DOING AND LOSE SOME HEAD DESAUCIADOS . We also have a small , illustrative list of some of those who give a damn where it comes from dirty money and want to add as miserable scoring to attend the talks ” in English ” in the morning and ” Spanish ” in the afternoon the photos of the place …… are poetry and the scanned image of that list is interesting where many yellow ¨ ¨ are loving each charge money from Western valiéndoles a gum if the money is right or wrong there .

-> Have all the compensation plan of a system that neither know how candies own works and the funniest is that we have enough evidence to put more than one to apologize to all the saints kneeling on corn. Ah but will present the 18th in Las Vegas , Nevada . Not if they are assholes water noodles, as they where not pay taxes right? .

Indeed three gave the face but can not imagine the others who are waiting behind the unpresentable to be entrusted . Nowhere to hide , nowhere to shelter , nowhere to escape. Justice reached them, we are not we will hunt others and be tough , gritty and no rest until all of them where they will pay their bills.

YES, THE TEAM GET IT ¨ ¨ ATHENS : Roberto Molinari – Fernando Perez Reveles – Alberto Muñiz

And more …… The missing trumpets that have a lot to play . I warned them that this would not be a picnic .

This week more trumpets.

18 BEFORE ALL THIS MONTH WILL BE REVEALED

NOTICE: To all the morons who are after easy money , ( just take note of the recommendation ) . We hope that our grandchildren will not suffer a scratch in the Danish school they attend , or will think that you were and not ask anything and people will be much scraped . So you better think of a politically correct strategy …..

VA Just in case ……

Spanish (original):

– LA TERCERA TROMPETA HA SONADO –

Más de dos horas y media, mano a mano con Phillip Ming Xu, presidente de World Capital Market, en un exclusivo hotel de Los Ángeles, California; donde nada quedo en el tintero. Todo, absolutamente todo lo que ha pasado, lo que está pasando y lo que pasara en una reunión REVELADORA.

Ahora podemos decir sin lugar a dudas que se terminó la farsa.
Esta semana será publicada la primera parte del reporte más interesante y completo del caso WCM777 & Kingdom777, con el más detallado mapa de quien es quien en la trama ambiciosa donde se robaron más de doscientos millones de dólares a World Capital Market afectando a todos

No jugamos al misterioso, no venimos con ¨Webinares¨ baratos ni ¨histeriquitas¨ llamadas telefónicas tercermundistas. Acá no hay lugar para el ¨me lo dijo un contacto¨, o ¨lo confirmo un fulano en el corporativo¨ ni mariconerías de esas y para muestras un botón LEAN MAS ABAJO:

ESTUVIMOS EN:

—> Orange County 438 Est. Katella, Suite 212; California, lugar donde le mienten a la gente de la nueva plataforma cuyo nombre MAÑANA REVELAREMOS EN EXCLUSIVA PARA TODOS y cuyas iniciales son ¨IN¨ (tenemos fotos del lugar en el primer piso, una porquería de ratonera (para lavar cabezas idiotizadas)

—> Hablamos con uno de los ¨hacker¨ quién nos enseñó como roban los puntos de Kingdom777 Renato Rodriguez y Guttemberg Dos Santos usando el programa ¨GoldenFrog¨ (Si también tenemos fotos del delincuente) y se llama JOEL CRUZADA.

—> Tenemos el domicilio con nombres, apellidos; evidencias físicas y fotos de quien falsifico la documentación que presentaron para sacar los puntos de Kingdom777 o para registrarse en la mediocre plataforma del dúo dinámico. Es todo un espectáculo de cine Gore.

—>Tenemos otro nombre para seguir armando la lista de los que son cómplices de la estafa más cruel en las redes de mercadeo PEDRO HOLANDA quien luego de hacerse el “A mí, no me joden con esta porquería”, (ya sabemos cómo un billete separa las piernas de cualquiera) y luego de haber recibido, la más tentadora oferta que jamás habría ganado trabajando honestamente acepto sumarse al Equipo de los que viven del engaño y la manipulación.

—> Sabemos quiénes son los nuevos dueños de Kingdom777 y se llaman “Progress Profit Limited” operan en China y seremos su enlace en América. Si así como lo leen NOSOTROS, porque nos gustan los cinco minutos de fama como dicen algunos enfermitos y porque tenemos más cojones que una manada de leones todos juntos y porque nos encantan los retos, más cuando tres jinetes pueden enfrentar a toda la caballería de tarados en 3D.

—> MAÑANA DEVELAREMOS EL NOMBRE DE LA PORQUERIA ENGENDRADA POR RENATO RODRIGUEZ Y GUTTEMBERG DOS SANTOS Y QUE HACE PERDER LA CABEZA DE ALGUNOS DESAUCIADOS. Tenemos también una pequeña e ilustrativa lista de algunos de los que les importa un cuerno de donde viene el dinero mal habido y se quieren sumar como miserables anotándose para asistir a las pláticas “en ingles” por la mañana y “en español” por la tarde…… Las fotos del lugar son una poesía y la imagen escaneada de esa lista es interesante donde muchos ¨amarillos¨ están queriéndose cargar el dinero de los occidentales valiéndoles una goma si ese dinero es bien o mal habido.

—> tenemos todo el plan de compensación de un sistema que ni los propios saben cómo caramelitos funciona y lo más chistoso es que tenemos suficientes evidencias como para poner a más de uno a pedir perdón a todos los santos de rodillas sobre maíz. Ah pero lo van a presentar el 18 en Las Vegas, Nevada. No si son más pelotudos que el agua de los fideos, como sino que donde no se paga impuestos ¿verdad?.

Efectivamente, tres dimos la cara pero no se imaginan los otros que están esperando detrás a que se confíen los impresentables. No hay donde esconderse, no hay donde refugiarse, no hay donde escapar. La justicia los alcanzara, no estamos nosotros seguirán otros más y la cacería será dura y descarnada y nadie descansara hasta ponerlos a todos donde rendirán sus cuentas.

SI, EL EQUIPO ¨ATENAS¨ LO LOGRO: Roberto Molinari – Fernando Reveles Perez – Alberto Muñiz

Y faltan más trompetas…… Las que tienen mucho por que sonar. Les advertí que esto no sería un día de campo.

Esta semana mas trompetas.

ANTES DEL 18 DE ESTE MES TODO SERA REVELADO

AVISO: Para todos los tarados que andan detrás del dinero fácil, (solo tomen nota de la recomendación). Hacemos votos por que nuestros nietos no sufran un raspón en la escuela de Dinamarca a la que asisten, o pensaremos que fueron ustedes y no preguntaremos nada y habrá mucha gente raspada. Asi que mejor piensen una estrategia políticamente correcta…..

Va Por las dudas……



#15

Oz

Mar 15th, 2014 at 2:14 pm  Oz(Q)

So uh, does this Molinari fellow understand how a Ponzi scheme works then?

Dude’s major butthurt over Liu and “hackers” stealing funds… because that meant he himself couldn’t steal funds from later investors.

Where did I put my world’s smallest violin?

There ain’t gunna be no Ponzi retribution son, you got played by old-time Chinese Ponzi scamsters. Unless the SEC make a move (apparently the latest “meeting” was yesterday), game over.



#16

hoss

Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:26 pm  hoss(Q)

I think its fair to say that Mr. Molinari got his hopes up.



#17

Bob Hu

Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:34 am  Bob Hu(Q)

It is clear stolen points are nothing worth unless you convert them to other asset before notice theft.

The points are no internal value and system is managed by company. Easy to see and stop stolen points used.

Phil lied to SEC many times. He makes it easy for them.



#18

hoss

Mar 16th, 2014 at 2:11 am  hoss(Q)

Bob Hu: It is clear stolen points are nothing worth unless you convert them to other asset before notice theft.

How does someone steal points anyway?

Did this guy think that points were real money or something.



#19

K. Chang

Mar 16th, 2014 at 3:24 am  K. Chang(Q)

Oz: Facebook video published by a “Roberto Molinari”

Any relations to “Chris Molinari”, former Zeek trainer?



#20

Oz

Mar 16th, 2014 at 7:58 am  Oz(Q)

Any relations to “Chris Molinari”, former Zeek trainer?

I doubt it, seems a common enough name. Gotta love Molinari, I wonder if her consulting business died after Zeek? She was one of the first defenders we ran into.



#21

M_Norway

Mar 16th, 2014 at 8:57 am  M_Norway(Q)

K. Chang:
Any relations to “Chris Molinari”, former Zeek trainer?

Nope, not very likely. The only thing they share in common (other than the last name) is that they both have some distorted sense of reality.

I tried to google chris+roberto+molinari (include all 3 names in results). It didn’t give any meaningful results pointing in that direction. They are NOT related enough to show up in the same search hits.



#22

K. Chang

Mar 17th, 2014 at 5:01 am  K. Chang(Q)

Bob Hu: 3620 Cypress Avenue, El Monte CA 91731

Oxyo Merchandising? Zeeta Shoes? US Webbing? Wintex Knitting? That’s either a merry-go-round or a virtual office. I vote for merry-go-round as it also appeared on various “for rent” places.



#23

K. Chang

Mar 17th, 2014 at 5:17 am  K. Chang(Q)

Oz: does this Molinari fellow understand how a Ponzi scheme works

I am reasonably sure that the guy’s full name is “Roberto Angel Molinari Kroker”… and he’s a real fan of the Knights Templar. wears that red maltese cross pin all the time. And he’s really pushing Kingdom 777



#24

K. Chang

Mar 17th, 2014 at 5:42 am  K. Chang(Q)

Oz: Gotta love Molinari, I wonder if her consulting business died after Zeek?

Chris Molinari Media Website’s still there, though ancillary websites like some “association” and “something expert” seem to be dead. Linked from her LinkedIn profile.



#25

M_Norway

Mar 17th, 2014 at 9:56 am  M_Norway(Q)

K. Chang:
Chris Molinari Media Website’s still there

When she commented Zeek, she only used “Chris” as user name, or maybe it was “Neurotic Chris”. Both names give the same associations.

She used full name when commenting “Mark McCool / Livesmart 360” and “About”.



#26

LB

Mar 17th, 2014 at 5:32 pm  LB(Q)

K. Chang: Oxyo Merchandising? Zeeta Shoes? US Webbing? Wintex Knitting? That’s either a merry-go-round or a virtual office. I vote for merry-go-round as it also appeared on various “for rent” places.

Actually, Bob was very accurate on this one when he first reported it here. The new building they are using is owned by Kingdom Capital Market LLC. I verified that in a similar manner to the one I shared with you via email.

KCM is the holder of several properties and the golf facilities. Notice PMX doesn’t mention anything about not being a part of KCM. World Capital Market appears to be in the process of vanishing as well, with control of the current scheme shifting to HK.



#27

K. Chang

Mar 17th, 2014 at 5:50 pm  K. Chang(Q)

LB, no need to mention *that* here, but point’s taken. I’m sure you have an idea what’s the timeline regarding that property and thus give an indication how it fits into their mid-term to long-term plans.



#28

Bob Hu

Mar 18th, 2014 at 5:21 am  Bob Hu(Q)

Plans

– Launch Mannasource.com

– “Silent” investor in Global-Unity.net, no more details

– Invest in Bank Trading Program Scam in Dubai

– Trying to sell golf courses

– Still has $25 million in CA bank.

He is not smart so hard to know.

He first told SEC he had no involvement in WCM777. Then said he sold it. He lied many times to them. SEC canceled deposition and asked for documents.



#29

LB

Mar 18th, 2014 at 11:48 pm  LB(Q)

K. Chang:
I’m sure you have an idea what’s the timeline regarding that property and thus give an indication how it fits into their mid-term to long-term plans.

I can only theorize in public, but there is no crime in being a really REALLY poor manager of money. The properties are purchased slightly above market value. The properties will/are be resold, back and forth between llc entities at a loss of lets say 5% to 10%.

This is being carried out in a slow, but effective manner to launder the cash back out to the groups. To avoid capital gains for US based folks, they are moved around as persons owed money on “shares” of the shell companies.

It’s all kind of difficult to explain in short order, but tracking the “investments” tend to show something like this going on in the background.



#30

K. Chang

Mar 19th, 2014 at 3:02 pm  K. Chang(Q)

According to WCM777Pay, EuroWallet just quit being Kingdom Wallet’s provider. (Thanks to RealScam forum for heads up)



#31

K. Chang

Mar 19th, 2014 at 3:04 pm  K. Chang(Q)

OOps, that should have read Kingdom pay, and thanks to LRM (who posted on RealScam first)



#32

Dragon

Mar 19th, 2014 at 11:16 pm  Dragon(Q)

The new owners of Global Unity named “PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED” is a company name that was preregistered in Hong Kong by http://www.ckltd.co in 11/2013 as you can see in the Google results searching “PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED”, it’s in Google cache but searching the name into the http://www.ckltd.co it not generate results.

“sey0104, PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED, 11/2013, R.”



#33

LB

Mar 19th, 2014 at 11:59 pm  LB(Q)

@Bob your thoughts on this?

Dragon:
The new owners of Global Unity named “PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED” is a company name that was preregistered in Hong Kong by http://www.ckltd.co in 11/2013 as you can see in the Google results searching “PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED”, it’s in Google cache but searching the name into the http://www.ckltd.co it not generate results.

“sey0104, PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED, 11/2013, R.”



#34

K. Chang

Mar 20th, 2014 at 1:42 am  K. Chang(Q)

I’m searching the HK portal directly and I got this:

CR No.: 1966996
Company Name: PROGRESS PROFIT (HK) LIMITED
駿盈(香港)有限公司
Company Type: Private company limited by shares
Date of Incorporation: 13-SEP-2013
Active Status: Live

and this

CR No.: 1729885
Company Name: PROGRESS PROFIT INVESTMENT LIMITED
進一投資有限公司
Company Type: Private company limited by shares
Date of Incorporation: 16-APR-2012
Active Status: Live

Unfortunately, HK wants money to just LOOK at the records. Sheesh!



#35

K. Chang

Mar 20th, 2014 at 2:02 am  K. Chang(Q)

Dragon: “sey0104, PROGRESS PROFIT LIMITED, 11/2013, R.”

I think “R” means it’s reserved, and then actually registered. “sey” prefix seem to suggest it’s registered in Seychelles, but I can’t seem to locate such a company through Seychelles’ registry.



#36

K. Chang

Mar 20th, 2014 at 2:29 am  K. Chang(Q)

I’m going to guess It’s that “Progress Profit (HK) Limited”. Seem to fit PMX’s profile.



#37

Dragon

Mar 20th, 2014 at 3:49 am  Dragon(Q)

K. Chang:
I’m going to guess It’s that “Progress Profit (HK) Limited”. Seem to fit PMX’s profile.

Anyway the “leaders” will make them look like a big corporation that acquired Kingdom777 like they made look WCM as one of the biggest bank with more than 700 companies created by them.

Probably the reality is that Progress Profit is a facade to cover the same guys behind all the WCM thing.



#38

LB

Mar 20th, 2014 at 10:54 pm  LB(Q)

I wonder what happened to the video the three amigo’s were supposed to release.



#39

Maria Grote

Mar 10th, 2015 at 12:15 am  Maria Grote(Q)

You forgot the most important guy here in Vegas, that was working together with Dos Santos.

He even at the last minute, knowing that they were about to close the company, was trying to make a investment with my best friend in Bakersfield.

His name is DR CESAR RAMIREZ (Gutenburg’s twin in business) he end up with a lot of money, closed his business here in Vegas, and went to hid.



#40

M_Norway

Mar 10th, 2015 at 2:37 am  M_Norway(Q)

Maria Grote:
You forgot the most important guy here in Vegas, that was working together with Dos Santos.

We don’t focus specifically on people, but we don’t try to avoid mentioning people either. I found one search result for Cesar Ramirez on this website:

The AddWallet call, hosted by ex-Zeek Rewards and current AddWallet affiliate Cesar Ramirez, was mostly a Q&A session from existing and prospective investors, largely focused on concerns they had over obvious similarities between AddWallet and Zeek Rewards.

NOLINK://behindmlm.com/companies/will-hiding-in-ecuador-protect-addwallet-from-us/

(the NOLINK is simply a method to post relevant parts of a link, without making the link “active”)

BTW, you will find more recent updates for WCM777 here:
NOLINK://behindmlm.com/category/companies/wcm777/